I agree....but since the only comment they’ve given a “heart” to is the one about the boat with a tiller and stand up engine room, I think I know what they got. Too bad in my opinion
@@garysouza2277 Yea she is probably top of their list right now. I dont think they have one picked yet? There is a bit of a delay so maybe they are already living on her :)
Before I retired as a naval architect and marine engineer, people would ask me how I could keep my design practice open since hull shapes can be so similar. My reply always included an explanation of how everyone has a different idea of what the ideal boat is and that's why there are so many designers and variations you see at boat shows. Even then, boat designs intended for the masses are always a crap shoot, and never please everyone. That's where custom options come into play and re-designs during re-fits. Whenever someone would ask me what I do for a living, I would tell them I'm in the business of selling dreams! If you find a boat design with a size, hull shape, and general interior layout you find reasonable, you can always fine-tune the vessel to fit your specific needs. Of course, you can have just about anything and everything you want providing you have a very thick wallet! All the best in your search, and I'm looking forward to finding out what you decide on.
The last boat ( Diana60) looks pretty well thought out even that you didnt show much of it. A positive: a narrow galley, big windows, dog house (HUGE!), cutter rig. The negative - is a skeg rudder but you can live with that, its a lot better then a long keel boat from the last video.
Keep looking. The Diana 60 is the closest to what you wanted in a cruising boat, but it is a very big boat, much bigger than what you said you wanted.You know what you want. Don’t settle or feel pressured....Everybody that’s pushing the one with a door to the engine room doesn’t understand living on a sailboat and cruising. Just because you can stand up in an engine room is not a reason to buy a sailboat that doesn’t fit the rest of your needs any more than picking the prettiest colored boat. How much time are you going to spend in an engine room? You need a boat that fits your live aboard/ cruising needs.
The Diana 60 is the clear winner this week - general condition, quality of construction, cutter rig, furling main, doghouse, great internal layout, good galley, good value - use one of the rear cabins as a utility/storage/spare cabin. Lots of good points - I’ll take it! Though at 60’ it’s getting up there... Of course there’s no perfect boat. It’s just a case of where and on what you compromise and finding the right balance for you. Happy hunting.
Good lord that 57 footer you looked at in the last episode is looking better and better. I know I'm not you guys and it's not my money, but good grief that beautiful boat looks perfect for you guys, especially with the baby coming. Love you guys hope you find the right boat and jump on it before someone else does.
Hello, go for the 60 footer aircraft carrier, it was a beautiful yacht, and you got so excited, your normally really chilled, so follow that passion and smiles I say, and what a man cave of an engine room! I hope you bought it, you will manage with some friends on board while Malin busy with Vera and settling in, then you will master it as a couple as times goes by!
Johan can’t get over the price and that stand up engine room I’m so looking forward to seeing the new boat plus johan as we age it makes it easier to be working standing up rather then hunched over 🤣
Hi Marlin and Johan, the Diana 60 is a fine yacht. Big aft deck and a salon with many windows to look outside. Good cockpit hardtop. The 57 feet ship from last week had a very small cockpit. And the deckhouse is to small and to slowly speed. You need much more fuel. Best regards Michael
Thanks for taking us along. It must be extra work filming and editing these videos when you really have so many things to consider. Your work is very much appreciated. You have an excellent way of describing and noticing the differences on the boats. Keep up the great work and good luck in your shopping adventure.
Congrats on your precious baby girl ! Both of you are experienced, competent sailors..so, imo, you can handle a bigger boat. Also.. with the new crew the extra space will be comfortable as you will probably be spending more time exploring and parenting between passages of any length. Great, funny episode btw ! Boat shopping...fun but extremely stressful.
I really don't prefer any one out of all you looked at but if I had to choose it would be the 60'er from what I saw. Nice huge deck to relax and let the baby play on. Didn't see the engine room though.
The Hallberg-Rassy made me think of our favorite Italian in the power plant.....whose H-R is coming along nicely! Also, the teaser for next week is always welcome.
Yes the Diana 60 looks like a nice one! But so much boat to clean the bottom of, keep the inside clean, and to pay for when you go in to a marina with it. I didn’t notice if it had a swim platform or not. How big do you need...you gonna have 5 kids? You head must really be spinning! Good luck -Rebecca onSV Brick House
I reallly appriciate your thoughts and discussions when you guys are looking at these boats. It really get my own mind to start thinking how my perfect cruiser would look like. Thanks a lot. The videos realy makes the gloomy pre-winter days a lot better.
I am not familiar with the Diana 60 but if it is well recognized for being sea worthy, to me it is the winner. The Hallberg-Rassy is of great quality but that layout is very bad for live-aboard (all factors you mentioned). I wish you luck finding in the search. All the best. I hope mommy is feeling well.
I can’t say I’ve seen one that suites you guys yet. You just know when a boat is for you. It’s your guts telling you, this is the one. I don’t think you’ve had that feeling yet. :)
21:15 Boy! You nailed it. With all these boats you've been looking at, it seems like there is a pattern of cabin space being somewhat an afterthought to the entire design. Even that one boat that the designer who built his own boat, seemed like there was no well made plans for the interior.
My opinion? The first one is the best deal if you guys can swing it. Lots of things can be done in a walk in engine room. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
I sailed on the hallberg rassy kismet in your video. We were delivering it from the Netherlands to Lefkada in Greece. There were a number of issues with her on the passage. Then when making our way towards the Gibraltar straits, we had a serious interaction with a pod of orcas and spent two hours with them bashing up against the rudder. The damage meant we had to leave the boat in Gibraltar. I flew back to the Uk and out to Greece to my own boat instead. I think you made the right choice.
That last yard where you looked at 3 boats had my name written all over it lol .I would soooooo love to spend a week there looking at all the forsale boats!!
That Diana 60 was a great looking boat . Would be close to the top of the list of boats to purchase possibly? Hope you guys find the perfect boat for your family. Until our courses cross, fair winds and full sails. Jack and Billie
I think so far the Halberg Rassy is the best boat you guys have looked at! I know voyaging boats well and the HRs are some of the best boats built. Smartly set up, the fit out is meticulous, and they are great sailors!
Such stunning scenery. I enjoy this a lot. Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!
The Diana 60 is your best choice. Size matters. Larger boats can better handle larger waves. Not to mention the berth comfort for you, your wife, and baby in the middle when you set anchor in a quiet cove.
Looking at the engine room at last weeks 57' blue boat and full sized washer, dryer and dishwasher even though it has only one large head to me it's a House. remember ya have a little one coming soon.... Merry Christmas :-)
Congratulations again. Correct choice in my opinion for a real full time home. I also noticed this Diana in the listings, I like it, but lot's of narrow tunnels and can't touch the OVM, for spaciousness, livability, Film-ability, natural light with butterfly hatches for meters (important for your videos) and simple charm and old world high class. I hope to see you out there some day! I will recognize her from 2 miles.
Two comments if I may. One, soon you will be sailing/traveling with three, safety should be a key consideration in layout. Two, before you write off the HR (aft cabin) I’d schedule a visit with the yard and discuss modification options to the aft cabin. HR is not far from you and would be worth a day trip to meet with them. I’ve personally seen what they can customize and they do outstanding work. Note: I am biased as I own an HR 48MK II but they are so great to work with - and their Parts Dept will have anything you ever need for your boat :-). Best of luck whichever direction you choose.
Merry Christmas Sweden. 2020 will be a game changer bringing much joy to your family. Thanks for sharing your travels and aspirations with the world. Canada
My wife and I are really enjoying watching your videos! A boat we really like and aspire to own is the Caliber 47LRC a solidly built boat. We were able to see one at the Newport RI boat show a few years back. Maybe one for you to consider. Best of luck!
It is like when you two meet. You probably both knew immediately with no doubt or reservations that the search was over. So don't be in too big of a hurry. When your bell gets rung you generous know it.
I think the best Yacht so far is the classic ship from last episode. Beautiful interieur and special enough to attract more subscribers. Downside, it's slow and maintenance is expensive. But you'll earn more money also.
The last boat was just wow But my main concern is i would say is deck space topside. At first it wont be so bad but as Vera grows she will be wanting to be outside alot so deckspace needs to be wide enough for her to move around without fear of falling overboard. Im just a worrisome old grandpa lol good luck searching.
The big boat from your previous video still take my vote. The Diana 60 is nice, but it had an osmosis treatment. I'm sure that boat is hiding more saturation/rot issues. I'm sure that you guys watch SailLife. He's still finding water issues.
My favorite is the stand up engine room boat. The last 3 it appeared it did nothing for y'all . Keep looking if you can not swing the stand up engine boat.
..good luck in the hunt, get as big a boat that the two of you can handle, and has all the amenities that you require...have a great search and stay with an aluminum hull
Hey guys. Just wanted to wish you all the best for a great Christmas and for the New year with the birth of your daughter and a new boat yea! all the best to you. cheers.
Thank you very much for your honest and in depth impressions of these boats. I think any boat owner would agree that there is no such thing as the perfect layout. You always have to make sacrifices, and each person's experience and needs are different. You will find the boat for your family that suits your needs!
I liked the Diana 60 but the only thing that would concern me is why the added fiberglass on the hull. Had it started cracking or had it been damaged? Something weird that someone would go to that much expense. Otherwise I would check and see if that make boat is weak structurally.
Engine room yeah...but you must remember the full size washer, dryer and dishwasher. I look at it this way......Sandra wanted to go to Cleveland on vacation, but I’m the Husband, so we went to Cleveland.
That 60' seemed like a good opportunity to me at 199K. Even if you discovered that it truly was too big I believe you could put it on the market yourself for 249K and walk away with a profit and a much larger budget for the next boat. I absolutely loved that one.
I think HR 49 is the best for cruising. The galley configuration is the best for cooking at sea. I own a Swan 48 and, if possible ( tax to bring her to BRASIL is 100% of the price), I change her for a HR 49. Don't think twice! Good winds.
Great to watch your boat hunt. I see a lot of similarities in mine....like platform, material (no steel!!), sturdiness. I have some additions as: no teak-deck, a swing keel/very shallow and a DS or dog-house. Like allways with boats we will be finally caught by heart as nearly happened by you at the Olivier vd M. Good luck on your search.
My two cents; I believe the cutter rig is optimal for a cruising boat along with a totally encapsulated full lead keel. However I have always admired the Hallberg Rassy and the 43 or 46 model with the hard dodger would probably be my choice. Of course these are quite expensive. There seems to be so many more interesting choices in Northern Europe than here in the USA. Best Wishes.
Another great clutch of reviews guys, really appreciated that. I too was eyeing Kismet (the Halberg) and also didn't appreciate the rear cabin. She looks in much better condition than the website images suggest, so that was a surprise. The Diana certainly is a lovely boat and at a decent price point but she is big, isn't she? Tempting, very tempting! :)
Boat shopping is fun. I'm only on the second boat so far, still watching, but it really looks like a weekender to me. No dodger, not a lot of thought to watch positions... I'm surprised you aren't seeing more pilothouses in that area of the world. In the Pacific NW (USA) seems like they're almost as common as traditional cockpit models.
For me the Van Meer knocks spots off these 4 boats, I think she is beautiful, the layout is superb, more traditional and far more like a home than a boat. The walk in engine room is a great feature and a bit special with the enclosed cooling system and other equipment. Also the build of the hull which is very heavy duty, I think she would sail as if on rails in heavy weather. I would feel very safe crossing an ocean in the Van Meer. Its your decision though not mine and I wish you well with whatever you decide on, good luck.
The Diana 60 looks great to me. It is big and heavy, but completely manageable, and fast. This is the first boat you have looked at that that I would have no problem sailing single handed with a wife and newborn. The HR looks ok too, but I am surprised at the marginal headroom. Is it just your style or are all the boats around designed for hard groundings?
The Diana 60 was amazing. Very well laid out. You could sail comfortably for 2 months straight if properly provisioned. And in my mind, that would be my #1 concern. How well can I provision the boat and for what time frame. The galley is the 2nd Consideration. Well designed. And like you stated, having the sink along the centerline. Long counter areas and retractable shelves that lock into place. Cabins seem to be separated well and you got the large master suite like you wanted. Would be worth a sea trial. Did it have a water maker? If so, what type. I guess the list could go on. But it is by far a well designed boat. And the insulation system would be ideal for cold water passages if you were to sail the NW Passage, or perhaps down through Antartica. I don't think you could go wrong with the Diana 60.
The Diana 60 should be on your list. She is a beauty!
I agree....but since the only comment they’ve given a “heart” to is the one about the boat with a tiller and stand up engine room, I think I know what they got. Too bad in my opinion
@@garysouza2277 Yea she is probably top of their list right now. I dont think they have one picked yet? There is a bit of a delay so maybe they are already living on her :)
geekdomo Yea-the Diana 60 would be my choice.....if I was looking for a 60’ boat!! Thank God I’m not....lol
Before I retired as a naval architect and marine engineer, people would ask me how I could keep my design practice open since hull shapes can be so similar. My reply always included an explanation of how everyone has a different idea of what the ideal boat is and that's why there are so many designers and variations you see at boat shows. Even then, boat designs intended for the masses are always a crap shoot, and never please everyone. That's where custom options come into play and re-designs during re-fits. Whenever someone would ask me what I do for a living, I would tell them I'm in the business of selling dreams! If you find a boat design with a size, hull shape, and general interior layout you find reasonable, you can always fine-tune the vessel to fit your specific needs. Of course, you can have just about anything and everything you want providing you have a very thick wallet! All the best in your search, and I'm looking forward to finding out what you decide on.
Perfectly summed up.
Or you can always flip them till you get the one you really want or afford to have it built.
Woaw.............Diana 60'!!!! It looks like a great fit!
If the boat speaks to you, listen. The smile on your face was the best when you opened the engine room door.
I remember an engine room that is calling you Johan!😁 "Joooohaan"
Haha!😂
Haha! what?....lol...
It’s so true.....you need that engine room Johan!
The engine room is just indicative of the fact that it's built like a proper ship. Priceless
An engine room with the name Johan on the door. That's the only boat where he had a smile on his face you couldn't wipe off with sand paper.
The last boat ( Diana60) looks pretty well thought out even that you didnt show much of it. A positive: a narrow galley, big windows, dog house (HUGE!), cutter rig. The negative - is a skeg rudder but you can live with that, its a lot better then a long keel boat from the last video.
So far the Diana 60 would be the boat of choice, big boat, lots of work!
Keep looking. The Diana 60 is the closest to what you wanted in a cruising boat, but it is a very big boat, much bigger than what you said you wanted.You know what you want. Don’t settle or feel pressured....Everybody that’s pushing the one with a door to the engine room doesn’t understand living on a sailboat and cruising. Just because you can stand up in an engine room is not a reason to buy a sailboat that doesn’t fit the rest of your needs any more than picking the prettiest colored boat. How much time are you going to spend in an engine room? You need a boat that fits your live aboard/ cruising needs.
I love these boat tours. You are really doing a good job filming, explaining what you are seeing, and editing! Thank you!
The Diana 60 is the clear winner this week - general condition, quality of construction, cutter rig, furling main, doghouse, great internal layout, good galley, good value - use one of the rear cabins as a utility/storage/spare cabin. Lots of good points - I’ll take it! Though at 60’ it’s getting up there... Of course there’s no perfect boat. It’s just a case of where and on what you compromise and finding the right balance for you. Happy hunting.
I’m with you Johan, the Diana 60’ is sweet.
the last one was very nice, thanks for sharing and have a nice weekend
Good lord that 57 footer you looked at in the last episode is looking better and better. I know I'm not you guys and it's not my money, but good grief that beautiful boat looks perfect for you guys, especially with the baby coming. Love you guys hope you find the right boat and jump on it before someone else does.
Hello, go for the 60 footer aircraft carrier, it was a beautiful yacht, and you got so excited, your normally really chilled, so follow that passion and smiles I say, and what a man cave of an engine room! I hope you bought it, you will manage with some friends on board while Malin busy with Vera and settling in, then you will master it as a couple as times goes by!
Johan can’t get over the price and that stand up engine room I’m so looking forward to seeing the new boat plus johan as we age it makes it easier to be working standing up rather then hunched over 🤣
Oh Malin your so sweet and funny. I laughed when you were describing the second boat, like going into a cave, made Johan laugh too.
Hi Marlin and Johan, the Diana 60 is a fine yacht. Big aft deck and a salon with many windows to look outside. Good cockpit hardtop.
The 57 feet ship from last week had a very small cockpit. And the deckhouse is to small and to slowly speed. You need much more fuel. Best regards Michael
Glad you are not rushing into buying something you will regret later. Way to stay focused..enjoying the videos keep them coming.😊
Thanks for taking us along. It must be extra work filming and editing these videos when you really have so many things to consider. Your work is very much appreciated. You have an excellent way of describing and noticing the differences on the boats. Keep up the great work and good luck in your shopping adventure.
ok Sunday morning, time for RAN sailing and a cup of coffee, sit back and enjoy :)
Congrats on your precious baby girl ! Both of you are experienced, competent sailors..so, imo, you can handle a bigger boat. Also.. with the new crew the extra space will be comfortable as you will probably be spending more time exploring and parenting between passages of any length. Great, funny episode btw ! Boat shopping...fun but extremely stressful.
The walkin engine room boat is the one. I do love that big sales yard.
I really don't prefer any one out of all you looked at but if I had to choose it would be the 60'er from what I saw. Nice huge deck to relax and let the baby play on. Didn't see the engine room though.
From looking at you in the last Videos, I would say only one boat touched your heart and made you both smile!
The Hallberg-Rassy made me think of our favorite Italian in the power plant.....whose H-R is coming along nicely! Also, the teaser for next week is always welcome.
Yes the Diana 60 looks like a nice one! But so much boat to clean the bottom of, keep the inside clean, and to pay for when you go in to a marina with it. I didn’t notice if it had a swim platform or not. How big do you need...you gonna have 5 kids? You head must really be spinning! Good luck -Rebecca onSV Brick House
These episodes of you guys looking at boats are great!
Diana 60 looks like a home, plenty of room to grow a family :-)
Y'all are killing me!!! LoL. But the tours are A+! I know you have already found it and I'm having to wait! LoL Darn guys A+!!!
Thanks for informational and detailed videos!
I reallly appriciate your thoughts and discussions when you guys are looking at these boats. It really get my own mind to start thinking how my perfect cruiser would look like. Thanks a lot. The videos realy makes the gloomy pre-winter days a lot better.
The 60 looks very nice..😎
Another great video. I think you wait until you see the boat coming in at home, could be a winner .👪⛵
I am not familiar with the Diana 60 but if it is well recognized for being sea worthy, to me it is the winner. The Hallberg-Rassy is of great quality but that layout is very bad for live-aboard (all factors you mentioned). I wish you luck finding in the search. All the best. I hope mommy is feeling well.
I can’t say I’ve seen one that suites you guys yet. You just know when a boat is for you. It’s your guts telling you, this is the one. I don’t think you’ve had that feeling yet. :)
21:15 Boy! You nailed it. With all these boats you've been looking at, it seems like there is a pattern of cabin space being somewhat an afterthought to the entire design. Even that one boat that the designer who built his own boat, seemed like there was no well made plans for the interior.
My opinion? The first one is the best deal if you guys can swing it. Lots of things can be done in a walk in engine room. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
I sailed on the hallberg rassy kismet in your video. We were delivering it from the Netherlands to Lefkada in Greece. There were a number of issues with her on the passage. Then when making our way towards the Gibraltar straits, we had a serious interaction with a pod of orcas and spent two hours with them bashing up against the rudder. The damage meant we had to leave the boat in Gibraltar. I flew back to the Uk and out to Greece to my own boat instead. I think you made the right choice.
The Van Meer 57’ is the one... just perfect for you guys and new crew member baby Vera
Interesting to see these different large boat layouts!
That last yard where you looked at 3 boats had my name written all over it lol .I would soooooo love to spend a week there looking at all the forsale boats!!
That Diana 60 was a great looking boat . Would be close to the top of the list of boats to purchase possibly?
Hope you guys find the perfect boat for your family.
Until our courses cross, fair winds and full sails.
Jack and Billie
I think so far the Halberg Rassy is the best boat you guys have looked at! I know voyaging boats well and the HRs are some of the best boats built. Smartly set up, the fit out is meticulous, and they are great sailors!
Such stunning scenery. I enjoy this a lot. Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!
Guys! The Diana, hands down, great boat, layout, and price! Thanks for sharing the adventure.
The Diana 60 is your best choice. Size matters. Larger boats can better handle larger waves. Not to mention the berth comfort for you, your wife, and baby in the middle when you set anchor in a quiet cove.
Love the videos. You're in no rush. Keep looking. You will find the right boat or maybe the right boat will find you!
So far I have not seen a keeper, only dock queens.Good luck with the hunting.Cheers
Looking at the engine room at last weeks 57' blue boat and full sized washer, dryer and dishwasher even though it has only one large head to me it's a House. remember ya have a little one coming soon.... Merry Christmas :-)
The little one came already if you haven't been following.
R. E. Hill And no steering in the dog house. And only one head. And cruises at 6knots. And not a gimbaled stove. And...
Really enjoying your boat investigations. I’ve been watching your channel since your snowy departure! Looking forward to more.
Great video guys. That teaser at the end on another boat, sneaky. Hope all is well with you and the little one.
Thank you for sharing. Very interesting to see all the different boats and their layouts.
Look forward to watching more.
Congratulations again. Correct choice in my opinion for a real full time home. I also noticed this Diana in the listings, I like it, but lot's of narrow tunnels and can't touch the OVM, for spaciousness, livability, Film-ability, natural light with butterfly hatches for meters (important for your videos) and simple charm and old world high class. I hope to see you out there some day! I will recognize her from 2 miles.
Very interesting going along with you shopping for a new boat.
i really enjoy it
Patience always pays off. If anything, I would tend to want a bit more boat than you are currently convinced you need. You will rapidly grow into it.
This is getting exciting!
I think you both fell in love with boat from previous episode and you won't like any other one
Two comments if I may. One, soon you will be sailing/traveling with three, safety should be a key consideration in layout. Two, before you write off the HR (aft cabin) I’d schedule a visit with the yard and discuss modification options to the aft cabin. HR is not far from you and would be worth a day trip to meet with them. I’ve personally seen what they can customize and they do outstanding work. Note: I am biased as I own an HR 48MK II but they are so great to work with - and their Parts Dept will have anything you ever need for your boat :-). Best of luck whichever direction you choose.
Cliff hanger!! Thanks for sharing your journey. Vera is beautiful and I know you will find the best boat for your family. All the best from 🇨🇦
Malin does not miss anything. Wicked sharp.
Merry Christmas Sweden. 2020 will be a game changer bringing much joy to your family. Thanks for sharing your travels and aspirations with the world. Canada
My wife and I are really enjoying watching your videos! A boat we really like and aspire to own is the Caliber 47LRC a solidly built boat. We were able to see one at the Newport RI boat show a few years back. Maybe one for you to consider. Best of luck!
Oh that cliffhanger 😀. Great job!
Sinks on the center line! yes best designs like old S&S Nautor Swans
Big engine room.... I like that..... Travelling made easy.... More space.... Lots of fun...
It is like when you two meet. You probably both knew immediately with no doubt or reservations that the search was over. So don't be in too big of a hurry. When your bell gets rung you generous know it.
Man that 60' and those renovations.......seems live a good value.
lol....we all know you both love the “Love” and it has been sold.....stop the tease!
Great crash course. Have learnt a bit. So far, not considering value, I loved Kismet..Keep them coming !! Thank you
(Diana 60) and this is wishing you and Your Family a Very Merry Christmas
I think the best Yacht so far is the classic ship from last episode. Beautiful interieur and special enough to attract more subscribers.
Downside, it's slow and maintenance is expensive. But you'll earn more money also.
The HR will get you around the planet safely and in comfort. I can not speak of the other 2.
As always good sound thoughts on cruising boats for those of us who live aboard and sail the seas. Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.
My Zora is a koopmans 38. Fantastic cruisers
Great episode, with so much to learn for Newbies like me ... Standing Engine Room looks the best to me ... Fair Winds!
The last boat was just wow
But my main concern is i would say is deck space topside. At first it wont be so bad but as Vera grows she will be wanting to be outside alot so deckspace needs to be wide enough for her to move around without fear of falling overboard. Im just a worrisome old grandpa lol good luck searching.
I certainly am enjoying the great boat tours ,,
Keep looking!! Good Luck!
The big boat from your previous video still take my vote. The Diana 60 is nice, but it had an osmosis treatment. I'm sure that boat is hiding more saturation/rot issues. I'm sure that you guys watch SailLife. He's still finding water issues.
The best boat you have found is the one from last week with the long skylight and beautiful engine room and the best price
My favorite is the stand up engine room boat. The last 3 it appeared it did nothing for y'all . Keep looking if you can not swing the stand up engine boat.
..good luck in the hunt, get as big a boat that the two of you can handle, and has all the amenities that you require...have a great search and stay with an aluminum hull
A bg boat is cool but maintenance cost raises exponentially
Go bigger...avoid five footitis.
Hey guys. Just wanted to wish you all the best for a great Christmas and for the New year with the birth of your daughter and a new boat yea! all the best to you. cheers.
Älskar Tayana båtarna, extremt stabila, dock väldigt trötta i lätt vind pga dess vikt. Men byggda för stora hav!!
Thank you very much for your honest and in depth impressions of these boats. I think any boat owner would agree that there is no such thing as the perfect layout. You always have to make sacrifices, and each person's experience and needs are different. You will find the boat for your family that suits your needs!
I liked the Diana 60 but the only thing that would concern me is why the added fiberglass on the hull. Had it started cracking or had it been damaged? Something weird that someone would go to that much expense. Otherwise I would check and see if that make boat is weak structurally.
I like your boat hunt. Such an interesting time. It is good to go slow on this.
Engine room yeah...but you must remember the full size washer, dryer and dishwasher.
I look at it this way......Sandra wanted to go to Cleveland on vacation, but I’m the Husband, so we went to Cleveland.
That 60' seemed like a good opportunity to me at 199K. Even if you discovered that it truly was too big I believe you could put it on the market yourself for 249K and walk away with a profit and a much larger budget for the next boat. I absolutely loved that one.
I think HR 49 is the best for cruising. The galley configuration is the best for cooking at sea. I own a Swan 48 and, if possible ( tax to bring her to BRASIL is 100% of the price), I change her for a HR 49. Don't think twice! Good winds.
Great to watch your boat hunt. I see a lot of similarities in mine....like platform, material (no steel!!), sturdiness. I have some additions as: no teak-deck, a swing keel/very shallow and a DS or dog-house. Like allways with boats we will be finally caught by heart as nearly happened by you at the Olivier vd M. Good luck on your search.
Awesome, such a nice boat!
My two cents; I believe the cutter rig is optimal for a cruising boat along with a totally encapsulated full lead keel. However I have always admired the Hallberg Rassy and the 43 or 46 model with the hard dodger would probably be my choice. Of course these are quite expensive. There seems to be so many more interesting choices in Northern Europe than here in the USA. Best Wishes.
Another great clutch of reviews guys, really appreciated that. I too was eyeing Kismet (the Halberg) and also didn't appreciate the rear cabin. She looks in much better condition than the website images suggest, so that was a surprise. The Diana certainly is a lovely boat and at a decent price point but she is big, isn't she? Tempting, very tempting! :)
Cany wait for you guys to buy another boat!!
Boat shopping is fun. I'm only on the second boat so far, still watching, but it really looks like a weekender to me. No dodger, not a lot of thought to watch positions... I'm surprised you aren't seeing more pilothouses in that area of the world. In the Pacific NW (USA) seems like they're almost as common as traditional cockpit models.
For me the Van Meer knocks spots off these 4 boats, I think she is beautiful, the layout is superb, more traditional and far more like a home than a boat. The walk in engine room is a great feature and a bit special with the enclosed cooling system and other equipment. Also the build of the hull which is very heavy duty, I think she would sail as if on rails in heavy weather. I would feel very safe crossing an ocean in the Van Meer. Its your decision though not mine and I wish you well with whatever you decide on, good luck.
The Diana 60 looks great to me. It is big and heavy, but completely manageable, and fast. This is the first boat you have looked at that that I would have no problem sailing single handed with a wife and newborn. The HR looks ok too, but I am surprised at the marginal headroom. Is it just your style or are all the boats around designed for hard groundings?
Koopmans are great looking boats and pretty quick for cruisers.
The Diana 60 was amazing. Very well laid out. You could sail comfortably for 2 months straight if properly provisioned. And in my mind, that would be my #1 concern. How well can I provision the boat and for what time frame. The galley is the 2nd Consideration. Well designed. And like you stated, having the sink along the centerline. Long counter areas and retractable shelves that lock into place. Cabins seem to be separated well and you got the large master suite like you wanted. Would be worth a sea trial. Did it have a water maker? If so, what type. I guess the list could go on. But it is by far a well designed boat. And the insulation system would be ideal for cold water passages if you were to sail the NW Passage, or perhaps down through Antartica. I don't think you could go wrong with the Diana 60.