Modding some HiFiMan Sundara closed to see if any improvements to the sound can be made
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- I really liked a lot of things about the HiFiMan Sundara closed but there is definitely room for improvement. In this video, I do some initial testing to see how Hifiman tuned them and see what changes I can make.
If you want to check out WaveTheory's review of the moded HiFiman HE400se, here is a link
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I've only modded cheap headphones. But it's cool to see that even more costly ones can be improved.
Yes most headphones can be tweaked a bit to improve things even expensive ones
Awesome video as always, great to see the changes that can be made and I look forward to the next one! Thanks
Thanks for watching ;)
A lot of budget closed backs put a lot of dampening material behind the driver to get a more detailed sound. When looking into higher end gear, I was surprised to see that this wasn't the case. Fortunately it's quite easy to just put some foam behind the driver (especially on planar magnetics).
Yeh, We have been experimenting with different shapes and density of foam so we may have a ready made insert available for them soon.
Very interesting find, now we wait for real life tests.
I love the mini Godzilla. The video was pretty good too.
Godzilla is my spirit animal ;) Hopefully if I ever make any money from doing this I will get an R32 GTR ( Nissans's Godzilla from the early 90s) and stick the tiny godzilla to the dash.
Just ordered a custom black and lime green litz cable for my DT1990, really excited to try your product - you guys certainly seem to know your stuff! 💚🖤
Thanks ;)
Amazing to see how flat you can get them with just some foam! I wonder what kind of different sound styles you could give them with different types of wood for the outer cup.
Yes, I am going to have to a lot of listening and tweaking over the next few weeks. I suspect different woods, would be a much more subtle change but if I can convince the team to buy me a lathe then I may give that a go as well ;)
Love your stuff. This made me interested in some mod on my new and old, expensive and not so.
Glad you are enjoying it - it can be a fun hobby.... Until you break something
Спасибо. Интересную тему раскрываешь, жду продолжения с HiFiMan Sundara.
Yes - I must get back to modding the sundaras soon
If only it was possible to EQ headphones with some applications lol. But seriously tho, why not EQing them instead of risking all the hardware?
They sound so bad that I assume there are standing waves or something happening past the transducer and EQ can't fix that.
Why not stay in the plane rather than sky diving ;) ... But, seriously, EQing is much safer and can often give good results. There are some things that can not be fixed with EQing but to be honest, I just get more of a sense of achievement when I mod something.
what material fixes the "hollow" sound inside the ear cups without reducing the bass?
We used a medium density foam
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Are the baffles closed? Am I right to say that closed back headphones tend to have closed baffles to eliminate reflections?
Can you explain the designs and reasoning behind the baffle designs of various open and closed back headphones?
Yes, these are fully closed. I may have a play with different baffle designs in the future but probably not until the summer
@@CustomCans thanks for the reply. Designing my own diy headphones right now.
any mods for the HE1000SE treble? Lol. It is revealing but sometimes a bit biting
They are possibly a little out of my price range but if I ever earn any money doing this I may get a pair ;)
@@CustomCans they are for only 2K right now my friend. Cop a pair. You can do it ;)
Dan Clark closed headphones are triffic ✔✔
Yes - if I can convince them to send me some to pull apart, I would love to get my hands on some
Can you try make them open-back please?
Yes - Hifiman have updated the design now and the latest ones have potential to be made open back - I will definitely give it a go in a couple of weeks
Did you ever find out, how the wooden back plates can be removed from the plastic frame. The are no screws but small quadratic shaped things.
Maybe a small hole in the wood cover, just to release the air pressure inside. Of course, the hole in a not so visible place, like in the lower area, under.
That is a good idea... I will give it a go
You could create unwanted port noise and resonance
Do you lose that percussive punch on the bass when you add the foam? Thats really why i buy closed backs. I wouldnt want to lose that. 🤔🤔🤔
No, you don't lose any bass impact
Hi,love the video's.Im currently using beyerdynamic T5 3rd Gen headphones (I prefer closed back) I'm looking to move up so to speak.I'm not one for dongle DACs or Amps Just simple plug into my Dap and play.Any suggestions from the people that know,P.S love the cables I have two sets.
I am not an expert on DACs and DAPs but going from single ended to a balanced connection will normally improve things a little if your DAP has a balanced out. Changing earpads can also have quite a big effect on sound. Unfortunately I have not played with the 3rd gen T5 so don't have any experience
@@CustomCans Hi,my player has the balanced option and I use it with your cable,I was just wondering or anyone has a pair that they swear by . p.s.thanks for responding.
did u mod the Mini DSP ears to suit better measurements?
No - we really just use them to compare one thing to another as they are not super accurate. We do plan on building a new test rig this year though
Maybe another special earpad
Yes earpads do have a big effect
@@CustomCans true i almost changed all my headphones pads and its more than 50
Why do you put so much effort into modding when you can easily achieve the same effect with a PEQ?
Putting effort into things can be rewarding. Like the IKEA effect
If you mod the headphone, it will work the same literally everywhere. With EQ, you can only do it on select equipment, or you need to lug around extra hardware.
are you any closer to releasing the payable he400 3d print files ? keep up the good job !!!
Here is a link
www.thingiverse.com/thing:5155882
@@CustomCans i meant the non Se X Y mods you were trying out in the other videos and said that you will sell the files , to recoup the design time
Man this is a weird headphone. I was considering buying it because i thought it would be like a sundaras with better bass, but the reviews have been a mixed bag of opinions in a not very positive way.
You were as precise and surgical as ever, this one in particular seems like a nightmare to disassemble/assemble.
Yeh - they are not quite as balanced as the open sundaras but hopefully I can get them a bit closer
very cool
Thanks