Mr. Buddy Heater Fix After Using a 20 Lb Bottle!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2023
  • If you are like me and used a 20LB bottle on your MR. Buddy Heater and it stopped working.. Well, lets fix it!

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  • @Mattman7781
    @Mattman7781 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    You need to use the inline filter made by Mr. Heater on any unregulated hose for these heaters (except one). You also need to change it out every heating season since it will fill up with oil and stop working. The high pressure from the propane causes some of the oils used in the production of the hose to leech out and clog the heater. You can't use a regulated hose because the regulator is in the unit already and double regulating doesn't work well supposedly. They sell a 10 foot hose that apparently doesn't need a filter because they manufactured it differently but it is the only unregulated hose you can use without the filter. The Big Buddy heater (the double bottle heater) has a regulated quick connect hose you can use since it bypasses the regulator on the unit, so no filter needed.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The oil leaching seems to be the only issue and while yes a filter could catch some of the oil but its just a matter of time before the filter fills with oil. Some kind of trap needs to be built to truly address this issue.

    • @TheTannerChanner
      @TheTannerChanner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah this is facts. It's just a simple upkeep issue. Just change out your filter once a year just like an oil filter and you'll be fine

    • @exodeus7959
      @exodeus7959 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like dissolves like. Nonpolar gas (propane) running through a line that most likely has plasticizers to keep it flexible. And then it clogs up the inlet. Ever worn the wrong gloves using the wrong chemical and poof they start "melting". Yep.
      th-cam.com/video/nTVG4f4prQE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VyLaDkN11iGjaVKc

    • @andybaker1784
      @andybaker1784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OldBarkerRanch1981 Mr. Heater makes a 10 foot hose that does not require a filter, part # F273704. The problem you had came from oil used in the manufacturing of the hose you used to make it more flexible.

    • @catherineostrom7575
      @catherineostrom7575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheTannerChanner I consistently used a filter and replaced it after 1 year. My heater is still clogged with oil. Now it has to be dismantled and cleaned. Boo! A brand new filter rattles the same as the old, so I don't know how you can tell when they are used up. No sloshing noises.

  • @tbaltz
    @tbaltz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid. Same happened with my little buddy using a hose with no filter. Don’t have a compressor to blow lines out, but found majority of oil gunk was on the bottom of the regulator where the 19mm fitting is. Take that fitting off, there’s a spring electrical valve that can be pulled out. Cleaned it with a rag along with the orifice it fits into (lots of oil there). Put back together, working fine now. Ordered a filter so don’t need to do this again. 🙂

  • @SQWIB
    @SQWIB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had similar issues with the Little buddy, for some reasons, itty bitty spiders must like the smell of propane or something. I have also had problems with gas grills, propane smokers and camp stoves. Cleaning out the lines is the only fix, sometimes compressed air works other times you need a disassembly and clean out.
    Just a bit of info on the hoses if opting to use bulk tanks...
    The proper hose to use for the buddy heaters is the "Mr. Heater Buddy Series Hose Assembly - 10-ft., Model# F273704" This hose is more rigid than other hoses. You can use this hose without a filter.
    The filter is F273699 and should be used with aftermarket hoses.
    From Mr. Heater...
    "Currently, we make three hose models that do not require a filter: the F273704 which is made from a different chemical compound of rubber that does not have the oily substance that can get into the fuel flow, the F271802 that attaches to a low-pressure line, and the F271803 which is a regulated hose. Since the F271802 & F271803 only see low pressure, the oily substances are not squeezed from the hose material."
    Hope this helps some folks.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s great information!! And yes the hose I have is the Mr. Buddy brand hose (10’). My biggest question is what is the liquid?? It is really oily, does have a slight propane smell to it as well but I have never had a problem like that before.
      Thank you again for the comment and excellent information!! I hope this helps some other people out!

    • @SQWIB
      @SQWIB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OldBarkerRanch1981 Not sure, maybe a contaminated tank? it seemed like quite a bit of liquid.

  • @silverstreak232
    @silverstreak232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That oil contamination is coming from the hose. The high pressure from the bottle is causing oils in the hose material to release and make its way into your heater. Mr Heater has an inline filter #F273699 that fits between the heater connection and hose. Thanks for posting this video. It has some good troubleshooting tips 😊

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The YT community is amazing! While that is supposed to be a MR. Buddy hose but im suspecting it may have been switched out before I got it.. Between the video and the comments I hope this helps some other folks out as well! Thanks for the comment!

    • @andybaker1784
      @andybaker1784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OldBarkerRanch1981 I use a Mr. Heater 10' Buddy Series Propane Hose Assembly Part # F273794. It does not require a filter. From what I read the other hoses use oil in the construction to make them more flexible.

  • @KissmyBasss
    @KissmyBasss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the filter when I got the hose, glad I did. It was our only heat source during an ice storm for a few days.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I almost got the filter too.. wish I did!

    • @KissmyBasss
      @KissmyBasss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was only chance, we had the ice storm and I didn't have time to research or be frugal. I never follow the "rules".

  • @rls3sniper957
    @rls3sniper957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been heating with a buddy heater on a 40lb tank for 10 years. I blow it out real good at being off the winter and it runs fine.

  • @williamfender661
    @williamfender661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something to do with the hoses leaching that liquid you described into the lines. If you use the hoses instead of the 1 pound cans, you have to use a filter to filter out the liquid. I heard that Mr. Buddy makes an adapter hose that does not leach, but I am not 100% sure. You can check online.

    • @grampsradio
      @grampsradio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mr. Heater does make hoses that can be used without a filter but if you don't use one of their approved filter-less hoses, you need to use the filter.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now I’m starting to think my hose was switched out and returned, then I bought it…

    • @silverstreak232
      @silverstreak232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Mr Heater filter #F273699 is not that pricey and is good insurance when using an adapter hose for larger bottles.

  • @built_to_serve_
    @built_to_serve_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You NEED the Mr Heater Fuel Filter if you gone be hooked up to any propane tanks other than the little green ones. We ran our Little Buddy Heater inside our RV all winter long with no issues. Obviously if using indoors, you need ventilation (fresh air). We cracked open a couple windows in our RV for ventilation and never had any issues. Never even tripped the carbon monoxide or LP gas alarms. Our Little Buddy Heater was hooked up to an 18ft hose running out a window to a 30lb Propane tank outside. Winter in our area doesn't get too cold, on average about 20° for lows and 35° for highs. We would run the Little Buddy Heater pretty much most of the day and all night long, and the 30lb propane tank would last us close to 4 weeks. We also had a small wood stove fan setting on top of the Little Buddy Heater to help circulate the warm air. All in all, this Heater is a must have for my family for off grid camping or emergency situations. It puts out some serious heat. We are going to invest in another one as back up.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The oil leaching seems to be the only issue and while yes a filter could catch some of the oil but its just a matter of time before the filter fills with oil. Some kind of trap needs to be built to truly address this issue.

  • @vikingnorm6935
    @vikingnorm6935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use the Mr heater hose & filters, still does it, when it starts acting up, I run a green 1lb can through it, then it works great 2-3 more 20lb cylinders, it’s very strange, even the Mr buddy flex does it, I’ve never took them apart only ran a 1lb through them

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz
      @GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Turn off the tank first when you shut down to allow the gas to burn up. If you leave pressurized gas in the line the oil will condense and eventually plug the hose, and finally the filter.

  • @grampsradio
    @grampsradio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The oily gunk comes from the inside of the hoses not the bottle.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would make sense! But it is the Mr. Buddy brand hose for that heater.

    • @grampsradio
      @grampsradio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only certain ones of the Big Buddy hoses can be used without a filter.@@OldBarkerRanch1981

  • @deemcclanahan
    @deemcclanahan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr BUddy has specific hose made for these heaters that don't have oil. they also have a pressure regulator. Used the wrong hose. For that kind of hose, you do need a filter.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is supposed to be a Mr Buddy hose… key word “supposed”

  • @JohnLindsay-zg6lv
    @JohnLindsay-zg6lv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use a 25 gl tank work for 3 years now but my big blue flame heater that junk just dont work dont get it
    Lil buddy not let me down ever love it works out the box light ever time stay on all night and day just works no mess around

  • @user-br4gg2ix1p
    @user-br4gg2ix1p 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fuel filters a must no matter what hose even mr Heater's.

  • @johnpower8356
    @johnpower8356 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know a few folks have the same issue, I use 20# bottles with a filter, just changed it too, never had a problem atleast yet

  • @N1ghtF1re
    @N1ghtF1re 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of the hoses need a regulator at the bulk tank or a filter at the heater. I have some hoses that don't need a regulator, but I still use one on all of my hoses. Typically, the more flexible the hose, the more oil that will come out of it. I've got a Big Buddy that I've had for ~20 years, a lot of trial and error with that poor thing.
    I haven't had an issue using a regulator at the tank and going through the regulator in the heater, but I've heard some people have.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have 4 of them but this is the only one that has had a big tank on it..

    • @farmersteve661
      @farmersteve661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m using the filters and the correct Mr. Buddy hoses. I’ve tried hooking 2 of the 20# cylinders up … one on each side. The first 2 I put on was successful & lasted for days . The next time I realized that the heater had gone out so I checked the tanks … one was full and one was empty. I immediately had issues getting a new cylinder to open and the gas to flow. I open very slowly … but the tank valves almost all make a “click” or little “snap” sound . I assumed it was vapor lock or some such . I got 2 installed and going again and the same issue… one tank full and one tank empty … but this time on opposite sides ! I attach the same tanks to my bbq grill and it opens up and the gas starts the grill and the other 2 burners as well . Only one of the 4 full tanks seemed to have lower pressure than the others because it would only light 1 of the 3 burners on my bbq grill . I took that one out of rotation . I went and bought another “Big Buddy” … (this time the green one with the built in fan ) . I put 2 new filters on both sides but only attached 1 of the hoses leading to ONE of those cylinders . THIS time I attached the hose to the cylinder FIRST and super slowly opened the valve… after about an inch I heard the same “click” sound at the tank valve . I assumed I was screwed but I left the valve open and slowly connected the hose to the new Big Buddy heater … I held the knob down in the off position trying to bleed the line . When I turned it to pilot it gave me a weaker looking flame on the pilot but I just waited and it finally stayed consistent until I determined perhaps the thermocoupler could be heated enough and put it on “low” and was successful since it did not go out . I left it going for about a half hour on low after it evened out and the pilot seemed stronger . I experimented with low - medium - and high successfully … but I did not push my luck with TRYING to add a 2nd hose & tank this time . I won’t even turn off the pilot light right now . Am I making some mistake bleeding these lines somehow ? What would be the proper routine to start 2 new 20# tanks properly ? No I am not using a regulator since the Big Buddy has them built in on both sides. BTW … be prepared to need ONE AAA battery with the newer “Green” model with the fan . (It’s needed to make the pilot light work .) It is very different in how it lights the pilot than the red one. I’m 30+ hours of videos in . Yours was great ! Yeah what is that stuff in the line you blew out ? I’m using the filters AND the correct Mr. Heater hoses both . I’m convinced the propane or tanks or both may contain contaminants as well . I see a lesson on the tanks having dates printed on them that required them to be serviced 10 years after date. The one I got to work said 2022. The others say 2015 and 2018 . Who knew there was so much to know about these heaters ? (No adapter came with the new one to make the fan run to an outlet . I put the 4 “D” batteries in the back and the fan works fine. ) I’ll be experimenting for a while . Wish me luck with a 20# tank change over this week when it’s 12 degrees . I have a couple dozen 1 # cylinders just in case I have to abandon the 20# tanks for a couple days . I’d hate to have those big tank change over troubles camping . (I’m just out in the garage taking the edge off for the electric heaters I have on low for the kitties . ) I’m lost … think it’s a combination of either the regulator or the valve in the heater causing the cylinder to lock up ? I would think a regulator at the tank along with the built in one on the heater could give somebody problems . I have not seen a “quick connect “ Mr. Heater hose yet … but is that smart since it does not let you use a filter ? Oh … and does the quick connect have a built in regulator as well ?… or is that when you need the hose to have the built in regulator on the tank end ? I don’t see anybody making videos on many of these questions yet . Great googley moogley ! 🥶🔥👍

    • @N1ghtF1re
      @N1ghtF1re 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@farmersteve661 Some propane tanks have sticky OPD valves.
      I have a 30 lb that works fine on my grill and in my RV but won't work on my heaters when it's full. I have to bleed gas out of it to get it to work.
      I usually just get that one filled to 25 lbs instead of 30 lbs.

    • @farmersteve661
      @farmersteve661 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N1ghtF1reGREAT info thank you so much ! BTW … I had to put a 1# cylinder on the right side of both units today to get the pilots to reignite long enough to stay on after a 20# cylinder change this evening at 40 degrees…( after it was 10 degrees F last night . ) The Red one was the most resistant again. Full 90 seconds prime time … every time. Finally successful and I removed the 1# tanks after I put them back on pilot . The Red went out again after the 1# tank on the right burned out . I removed the 1# and tried again with just the 20# … used the full 90 seconds prime count … and was successful … but had to bump it up to medium to get it ignited even after waiting a long while. On up to high and back down to low and even pilot and back to low with no more problems … YET … until next tank change ! The Red may have to go back . Thanks again ! 👍🥶🔥☃️❄️✌️✌️✌️

  • @russellrustin1028
    @russellrustin1028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of the time you can take a quilt tip .take some cotton off it wet it with alcohol. Slid it in and out that hole .a few times .usually works

  • @dusty59smith
    @dusty59smith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does That Fan Help At All

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn't believe how much it helps!!! That fan is a total game changer for the Mr. Buddy Heater!!

  • @mikealvarado654
    @mikealvarado654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey bro. I was told the lining sloughs off the hose and clogs lines. DON'T use a rubber hose. Use a braided steel line. Blow the lines out. Problem solved.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats the common thought.. I am going to test that theory soon, I will post a video with the results.

  • @ericwitt4586
    @ericwitt4586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a Mr buddy hose and haven’t had any issues

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully it stays that way! good luck bud!

  • @sherriberkley188
    @sherriberkley188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you didn’t put it I a Mr Buddy heater cover that’s your problem. I been using my Buddy heater with 20 lb for the winter so far so good.

  • @Boycott_Wendys
    @Boycott_Wendys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good day to you all, you can build your own copper lines for your buddy heater instead of the plastic one. If you know a gas fitter or a plumber they can probably help you out if you're unfamiliar with the process. 👌🇨🇦

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya know, I never thought about that! I may just do that! I will put a video up about it when I do! Thanks for the awesome suggestion!!!

    • @Boycott_Wendys
      @Boycott_Wendys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OldBarkerRanch1981 hey there, if you're anything like me you hoard fittings like it's the great depression 2.0(which I believe it is). The first one I built was a combination of gas lines from an old camper and the brass end of one of these flex hoses. If you've got access to a lpg detector you can make sure your lines are good after you're done.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly, yes I have everything need to make my own gas lines and you are on the same track as me. I figured a hard copper line with a short semi-hard/flex line at the bottle. At the very least it would tell us if the oil is in the propane tank or if it is the hose “leaching” as that is the most popular opinion. While a lot of people’s suggestions sound correct in theory, I would like hard proof via process of elimination!

    • @GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz
      @GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Copper lines don't flex very good, and are really unnecessary if you set it up correctly with a filter.

  • @jaycroyle8761
    @jaycroyle8761 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish you would have showed how both ends come off, I have mine tore down to a point where I can get to the lines to remove and clean them, would be much nicer if both ends were off.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dang! I'm sorry.. It was a total pain to get apart...Getting it back together was even worse!!

  • @rls3sniper957
    @rls3sniper957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t have to take it down that far bud. You can just take the regulator side off to get to the regulator and line sets

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will try that! It has to come apart again…

  • @bernardpoole9123
    @bernardpoole9123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It ain’t your tank it’s your hose

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are going to do some testing to prove or disprove that theory

  • @BikerBry
    @BikerBry 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No, there is something called "heavy ends" in the propane refining or "cracking" process. It certainly is NOT the hose creating this oily mess, it's the propane itself. I have been in the industry for years and this is common for LPG and most devices that use propane will just burn the heavy ends off with the LPG. This oil drops out of the LPG when it turns to vapor. Search "Propane Heavy Ends" for an explanation.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what I had figured was the case. Thanks!!

    • @cadd9511
      @cadd9511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know why the "heavy ends" don't affect the little 1lbs bottles?

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A question I have been asking myself...

  • @lampajoo
    @lampajoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah, that smelly oil will get into _every_ part. You can use brake parts cleaner to dissolve it and get it out. The filter doesn't necessarily help... it's not really a filter. It's an empty chamber.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A filter would act more as a trap I would think.

  • @rustyshepard9659
    @rustyshepard9659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im no rocket scientist but if the oil is being forced from the rubber in the hose by the high pressure isnt that a sign of the hose breaking down under the pressure

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The more comments the more I don’t think the hose is “leaching” but who knows for sure..

  • @jefferyaldrich8207
    @jefferyaldrich8207 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They say the liquid comes from the hose.use a filter

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe a small amount but I can't see it being continuous...

  • @meissert
    @meissert 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First of all, don’t just use any propane hose… use the buddy one… different lining no oil problem. Or use a filter also sold by buddy… however it seems the hose you have has issues and the filter needs to be changed often…

  • @sonyamclin1698
    @sonyamclin1698 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:19

  • @billbertagnoli4226
    @billbertagnoli4226 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For gosh sakes. Thats not a 20 lb
    Propane bottle.

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No that one is a 30 lb bottle… most people use a 20 though…

    • @farmersteve661
      @farmersteve661 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can the psi be too high on anything over a 20# cylinder using the Big Buddy ? 😎✌️

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldnt think so as the Mr. Buddy has its own built in regulator..

  • @johnpower8356
    @johnpower8356 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know a few folks have the same issue, I use 20# bottles with a filter, just changed it too, never had a problem atleast yet

    • @OldBarkerRanch1981
      @OldBarkerRanch1981  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A filter or trap is definitely needed!