How To Inspect A Mobile Home From Below?
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In today's video we learn how to inspect a mobile home from below. We look at a mobile home's underbelly, insultation, pipes, tires, electric, plumbing, axels, what's missing, the good and bad. Watch this video before inspecting your next manufactured home. Get a front row seat inspecting a mobile home from underneath and what to know while investing in profitable mobile homes.
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I'm a Certified Professional Inspector. I suspect that if I were to inspect any of these properties, based on looking at just their exteriors, no one would ever buy them after reviewing my report(s) because the cost for repairs would be more expensive than the cost to buy a new model.
Thank you for reaching out and connecting. I hope that you found some value while going through the video. As an inspector you must have a good deal of experience getting through homes and looking at repairs. With regards to your comment, I will agree and also disagree. You are absolutely right that almost any end-user that hires you will likely be scared away in the report that you give them. I've seen this happen many times over the years. In these situations the end-users are alerted to common issues regarding mobile homes and normal wear and tear that scares them away. In these situations it is ideal and a good use for these end-users to higher an inspector. Everyone should know exactly what they are buying. If they do not feel comfortable, then they should not by the home. That is partly why your profession exists. However, if the person that hired you as an investor then experience has show that the investor would not back out of the deal with your report. Purchasing a new home for a factory maybe well over $50,000 these days. In my experience you are able to rehab a manufactured home for much cheaper than $50,000. If you are finding that you are spending more than this, then please feel free to email me anytime with specific questions and I can certainly help you bring this cost down some. Again, you absolutely survey need for some folks. However in other situations I have seen inspectors that believe they know it all, not truly understand the mindset of an investor. I imagine that if you were a successful investor, you would not likely be inspecting mobile homes. Moving forward if you have any follow-up mobile home related questions please never hesitate to reach out anytime.
That home tore down to the trailer then rebuilt would keep its year registration and sell for $50,000
So the axles, which start just behind mid point of the home and working toward the rear, accommodate roughly 1/2-2/3 the weight of the home during transportation. The rear of the weight is distributed to the truck. Each axle capacity is roughly 3500-5000 lbs. 5 axles at 3500 lbs each will cover up to 17,500 lbs. A unit like that would probably weight 20,000-25,000 lbs.
Also, the solid wheel hubs are brake hubs. The others with 5 spokes are called idler hubs in case you decide to do a video on them.
Hi David! You really know your stuff! Thank you so much for watching and commenting all of this. That is incredible how much each of those axles is able to carry. Thank you for the lesson on idler hubs as well... I always like to learn new things mobile home related. Please comment back anytime. Keep in touch.
I love watching your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for commenting and the support! Keep up the great videos yourself. Keep them coming.
Love your videos! We watch all the time. We too, invest in mobile homes! Love mobile homes!
Hi Lisa Cunningham. Thanks for connecting and commenting. This business definitely has its fair share of hurdles again and again. If you are already investing in mobile homes than I've no doubt that this does not come without a great deal of hard work and daily effort on your parts. Keep up the great work! Moving forward if you have any mobile home related questions never hesitate to reach out any time. Talk soon, John
@@MobileHomeFormula TY John. Yes, my husband Steve and I have been buying, fixing and renting homes out for the past ten years. We do put up some MH videos on TY as well on some of the homes we buy and do work on. Under Lieve Enterprises. Here in SC. 😊
Great value video. Went from living in a hot mobile home to realizing the flaw it has 😤 ima fix it all. LETSS goooo real estate investing
Hi Miguelo! Hope you are in a much better situation now. Any mobile home investing questions you have moving forward never hesitate to reach out anytime.
Multiple axles are good...keeps the frame from warping as much sometimes
Hi Randy. Thanks for commenting. You are so right. As that home is going down the road I definitely wanted to have as many axles to keep the frame from twisting as possible. Keep in touch moving forward. If you have any mobile home related questions never hesitate to reach out any time. All the best. Talk soon, John
John are the the one who does classes and provides investors with contracts etc when they graduate..Mobile Home Investor..thx
Thanks for reaching out and commenting. I'm not 100% sure I understand your comment, however if you have any mobile home specific questions please never hesitate to reach out anytime. Feel free to email me directly at support@mobilehomeinvesting.net if that is easier. I hope that my past free videos here on TH-cam have been somewhat helpful to you already. Keep in touch moving forward. All the best.
Do u suggest covering the wholes from the bottom where the pipes go inside the home with expanding foam? Also from inside the home? Thx
Thanks for commenting! In some states this can definitely be more important than others. However the answer to your question is definitely, yes. You do want to close up all of the gaps possible to prevent bugs, smell, moisture and unwanted heat loss or cold from leaving/entering the home. Very good question. If you have any follow-up questions with regards to this never hesitate to reach out anytime please.
Your duct is the same way mine is torn do you know where I could find that fiberglass duct work?
Thanks for stopping by. I pick up this type of tape either from the big-box stores or Amazon. Hope this helps and points you in the right direction. Moving forward any follow-up questions please never hesitate to reach out anytime. All the best.
Thank you for your videos, they're very informative.
I don't see myself going underneath a mobile home. Is there any other way to see what is underneath?
Anything with a camera? A little robot car with a camera?
Does that even exist?
Or how much an inspector charge?
I'm learning the business and watching every one of your videos. Thanks again.
Hi Elizabeth. Thank you so much for reaching out and connecting. Additionally, thank you for your kind words. I do hope that these videos are somewhat helpful to you already. Understood and agreed about not getting underneath a mobile home. I really like your idea about some little remote control car or camera. I am sure that exists somewhere, however that is not something that we use in the mobile home business just yet. You can have an inspector or handyman go under the home however this is usually not needed. If you are able to take off one or two pieces of skirting on each side of the mobile home you can typically get a really good understanding of the debris, junk, foundation, pipes, and leaks that you may or may not see. You will also want to listen as the water is turned on and running inside. Listen under the home for leaks and spraying water. Hope this helps some and make sense. Moving forward any follow-up questions you have never hesitate to reach out anytime. All the best. Keep in touch.
You hire a home inspector like myself. They look at hundreds of different things on a property. The guy who made this video is far from being qualified to give an informed opinion on the condition of a mobile home.
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Thanks for commenting and the support Asahel.
i wanna see the inside where are the vids??????? AND your really valuable comments! about the pros and cons, don't invest but your info is totally invaluable to someone who is lo0king to buy new.
Hi Sue. Thank you so much for reaching out and connecting. I do hope that this video has been somewhat helpful to you already. There will be a inspection video for the interior of a mobile home coming out soon. I do have a previous one on this channel that talks about walking through mobile homes inside and out while inspecting them prior to making a purchase offer. I understand that you are not investing however if you have any mobile home related questions never hesitate to reach out any time. Happy to help if possible. All the best.
@@MobileHomeFormula Thanks for reply, will look for the insides, I can use all the info I can get
My father's mobile home has been neglected for about 2 years and needs some work.
What material works best for flooring/underside/walls/ceilings... Even the porch!? Like what type of wood should I avoid 100%
Thanks for watching! Glad you are taking on this neglected mobile home. Keep in mind that depending on your exit strategy, if you are looking to sell the home and make a cash profit, you may be able to sell it as is and still make a good profit. However cleaning up the home and making it look nicer would certainly attract more buyers. Or if you plan on living in it then by all means it is important to fix it up. When it comes to the subfloor that would be a half inch plywood or three-quarter inch plywood if you need to replace the subfloor. However match the floor thickness up with what is around it. Ceilings can be quarter inch drywall or regular wall paneling that is flipped upside down and painted white. The walls can be wall paneling as well, which is actually still sell in big box stores. You can also use quarter inch drywall on top of the current paneling. Anything exterior you want to use pressure-treated lumber. When it comes to the floor covering this definitely varies depending on the area and the neighborhood. You kind of want to match it to what else is being sold and the price point you will be selling for. However typically rolled linoleum, carpet, or LVT are common throughout the home. Try to keep carpet out of the wet areas though. Hope this helps and points you in the right direction. Any follow-up mobile home related questions never hesitate to reach out anytime. Hope the rehab goes better than expected.
Very helpful video! I just bought an old 72' single wide for my family to live in to save money. I had it inspected and overall it is in decent shape, however it feels like the whole house moves when you walk or sometimes even just sit down in certain areas. Its like our equaliberium feels off. Could it be the straps not being on tight enough?
Thanks for reaching out and connecting. You are absolutely correct that the home may not be strapped down or even on a solid foundation. Like one of the mobile homes in the video the home may resting on its wheels currently. Look underneath the home and let us know what you see. Let me know any follow-up questions that you have. Talk soon, John
@@MobileHomeFormula thank you, I had it inspected a month ago and everything checked out. The inspector said it was solid and properly put on. I will check it out myself and see more. I did take a quick look at it and couldn't see much. I am a big guy and lots of stuff under the house. I could see blocks and shims, I didn't notice many pier thingies though. I didn't see wheels on it.
Add extra piers and go back and add new redwood or pressure treated wedges/ thin blocks! Snug everything up.
@@randythomas3478 good idea! Thank you john!
Uneven sit may need add level blocks ck flooring under. See any rotten from under!!
Hi John. I’m buying a 1985 double wide mobile home, but can’t seem to find the vin. There’s no tongue and has been remodeled. How can I find it? Thanks.
Hi Megan. Thanks for reaching out and connecting. Congratulations on purchasing this double wide. If you have the HUD label number that can be found on the back of the mobile home or the serial number of the mobile home you can likely contact your state's manufactured housing department to give them this information they will provide you the VIN assuming you are the owner of the mobile home. However I am assuming that you do not have any of this information for you probably would not be asking this question to begin with. If the mobile homes data plate is missing, seeing as the home is almost 40 years old, then the likelihood of VIN being anywhere else on the mobile home is slim. In the very front of the mobile home, where the tongues used to be, look very closely to inspect for a number pressed into the steel of the I-beam going along the width of the mobile home. Some dealers press the VIN directly into this steel beam around where the skirting would be. You might have to remove some skirting in order to potentially find this. You may also be able to contact the state's mobile home title transfer apartment to give them the address of the mobile home to see if they can find any information. If the mobile home is located in a pre-existing mobile home park than perhaps the park owner or park manager might have some information in a file in the office. However this might be a long shot. There are ways for you to obtain a new VIN however this is difficult and the mobile home will have to pass all new HUD regulations in my experience. I'm sure this is probably not the answer that you are looking for. Keep me posted moving forward if you have any additional questions or concerns. Depending on your situation this may or may not be as big of a deal versus other situations. Feel free to keep in touch. All the best. Talk soon, John
I just bought an 83 single wide, I hit a bit of info from a paper on the inner door from tbe electrical box, also a snail plaque on the outside bottom left short end of the trailer.
Sally I cent fine much info as there company went out of business a long time ago. So that must be a grreeaat sign😣
How do you replace the vapor barrier. Do you have and videos showing?
Hi Sharon. Thank you for connecting. Ideally you do not have to replace the entire vapor barrier, but you can get away with just patching a few spots or replacing a few smaller sections. This Stephanie something that has to be done occasionally as a mobile home investor, and some climates it is a much more common repair than other climates. This is a very good idea to create a video like this. If you have a mobile home supply store near you these folks can give you very good directions on ways to remove, dispose of, and properly replace the vapor barrier. I will create a video like this in the future but currently do not have one now. However I did do a quick Google search and TH-cam search on "how to replace a vapor barrier" and found a few good videos and articles. I hope these help and point you in the right direction. Keep in touch moving forward.
@@MobileHomeFormula thank you so much for taking the time to reply. In our case, due to the current condition of the mobile as well as the weather, I believe we will need to completely replace it. Will try to locate a mobile home store nearby.
Hay John feeder,
Quick question about mobile homes. How exactly would one go about getting the copper out of those units? Is it something I could do relatively quietly at night? Thanks for your videos in learning a lot!
Thanks for commenting BBD. If everything was working just fine and I may likely not want to remove or replace anything. However that is obviously not the case with these homes. As you could see most of the insulation was gone and that first mobile home we were looking under. In this situation the copper pipes would be replaced with CPVC or pex lines are common. Inside the home copper lines would be replaced and connected with new fittings. In my opinion you only want to fix what is broken. I hope this helps and answers the question. If I did not fully answer the question or you have any follow-up questions never hesitate to reach out anytime. Talk soon, John
😂. The ac units are a huge pain to take apart for scrap…I’ve taken a few apart to separate for scrap and wasn’t much quiet about it…u would also have to cut the Freon line which could result in a fine if ever caught and it would make a good hissing sound for a bit…u would want to do that during daylight I’m sure cuz u get frost bite if it sprays on u anywhere….then dragging it out of its spot is quite heavy so unless ur a good size person it’ll be a pain to load into a vehicle quietly and at night ….that’s why I don’t get why people try taking off with central air units…someone tried stealing mine when it wasn’t hooked up yet after moving the home…they gave up half way through the yard lol…left a rut also so it had to have been a difficult night time quiet adventure lol
@@w8what575 Glad they didn't fet away with your unit, f-ing a$$holes.
Sorry about you're unit and lawn!
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Listen I keep fish tanks and I rent one of these idk what underneath really looks to to much but its something like that idk if there’s as many pillars of cinderblocks but I could be wrong, would I be able to put 125 gallon tank in here? Or will it collapse? 125 gallons is 1025 lbs but keep in mind I already have a 75, 55, 29, 20, and 40 gallon already set up, I’d be taking down the 75 and setting up the 125 if it’ll hold I jus need to know lol
Hi KRaM. Thanks for reaching out and connecting. I'm not sure if this is a real comment or a joke comment, however you took some time to write it so I will definitely give you my thoughts. If you really do have all of those fish tanks that is something I would really like to see. Feel free to email me anytime. I used to have a 50 gallon tank or so filled with some pretty tropical looking fish. With regards to your question, heavy weight in a mobile home can and will absolutely deteriorate or damage the mobile home. It may even cause foundation repair like you are mentioning with regards to the cinderblocks. In my opinion, anything over 600 pounds or more should be braced or reinforced from below. The home will likely be just fine without any bracing, however better to be safe than sorry (cheaper too). Hope this helps some. Feel free to keep in touch. Never hesitate to reach out anytime. All the best.
@@MobileHomeFormula it was real lol what’s your email I’ll send you some pictures of the tanks, I’ll probably also need more advice on the reinforcements lol
@@KRaM6969 Email me anytime at support@mobilehomeinvesting.net. Looking forward to seeing them.
@@MobileHomeFormula for some reason it won’t let me send and email to that address
so iam trying to move my trailer i even live in it but i called to see if there were year restriction, i told him it was 1978 and said no bc my frames might b weak bc of how old it is but the thing is before purchasing it they had moved it to the lot im at wouldnt it still be able move if it was just 3 years ago?
Thanks for reaching out and commenting. The technical answer is that in the United States a mover is not legally allowed to pull a permit for a mobile home, which is defined as any home built before 1976. Additionally, some cities may have enacted rules that they only want homes from the 2000 or 2010s or newer to be brought into their city. However, in my experience if you look hard enough there is likely a mover that you can pay to move the home and set it up for you. This mover may use a different VIN of a newer mobile home to pull the permit and move it to the new location. However depending on where this is going, and inspector may need to come out to verify the year and condition of the home. As you can see this is definitely a bit of a gray area in the real world. However I hope this helps some and makes sense. Any follow-up questions you have please feel free to reach out anytime.
@@MobileHomeFormula awesome thank you for taking your time gave you a sub!! good looking out bro
When releveling do you recommend blocks of cement and no wood shims?
Hi Dave. Thanks for reaching out and connecting. I am not a licensed installer however I have absolutely seen both used on a regular basis. Wood shims for small improvements less than 2 inches. However anything over that would usually be cement blocks. However the wood shims are only added on years later if the home has sunk down a bit and is being re-leveled an inch or two. Again, by the time we get them as investors, I would say a decent number of our mobile homes will have wood shims somewhere underneath. Hope this helps and answers the question.
@@MobileHomeFormula yes it does thank you have a great Christmas and happy New Year
@@MobileHomeFormula I have a double wide with decorative composite faux cream colored brick skirting, sitting on a whole length concrete slab.
I'm sure the place hasn't been releveled in a while...possibly never. Can you hazard a guesstimate how much it cost to relevel something like I own?
Great video. Thank you!
We paid 800 for singlewide...very expensive for releveling but it had to be done.
I was looking at a 1994 artcraft by Wick 14 by 48. They are asking $20,500. The inside seems to cosmetic, clean up. Outside of mobilehome is beautiful, sided. Is that a good deal. Its in a mobilehome park. The lot rent is $400 a month
Hi Mildred. Thanks for commenting again. I just replied to the same/lengthier comment you made on one of my other videos. Hope that this other answer helps. Let me know.
Please do more videos on how to examine mobile homes for potential investors.
Thanks for commenting. There are a couple inspection videos on this TH-cam channel, however there is a 30+ minute deep dive inspection video that all mobile home investors should watch. It is actually part of a free minicourse if you had over to www.mobilehomeinvesting.net/ you can sign up on that homepage. Hope this helps and makes sense. Any follow-up questions never hesitate to reach out anytime.
@@MobileHomeFormula Will do on signing up for your minicourse. I'm glad to have tuned in to your episode of putting a used mobile home on my land and either renting or selling the structure; I didn't realize it was possible or if anyone's doing it. I own 1.5 acres in Keystone Height, Florida. Not a big a thru-traffic area and the only tenants (possible owners) I can attract out there are retirees who are on a tight budget or occasional Airbnb visitors. Do you have other suggestions on what I can do with the mobile home on my land?
Leaf-Spring at axle
Hi Randy. Thanks for commenting and mentioning the name of these types of axles. The axle and spring to look a bit like a leaf. Keep in touch moving forward. Thank you again for commenting. Talk soon, John
I always wanted to become a landlord that rents out old remodeled mobile homes to people as an investor many of the things I would provide as a landlord is ROKU 2 streaming service and beautiful landscaping along with a tennis court and swimming pool I love architecture and I want to help people live a happy life if you don’t know what ROKU 2 is I will explain ROKU 2 is a digital cable free streaming platform with over 300,000 channels as a future landlord I want to save money by purchasing older mobile homes as a profit and remodeling them for a rental fee of 11,00 US dollars I’ve never been a landlord but I wanted to my whole life 😝✨✨😁
it's hard to get a heloc on a mobile home
You are right about that. Harder than a traditional site built home. There is some legislation going through Congress that will allow helocs to bit of be easier on manufactured homes, however I doubt they will ever be as easy as regular houses.
How much does it cost to put new plumbing in a mobile home?
Hi Dawn. Thanks for reaching out and connecting. If you're just talking about the mobile home itself, and nothing underground with regards to plumbing, then re-piping an entire single wide mobile home with pex material and labor should be less than $2000 in most situations. Aim for less than $1500 if possible. Hope this helps and points you in the right direction. Feel free to keep in touch moving forward. All the best.
I did my plumbing with Pex-B Maybe about $2,500 all said and done, new eveeything, 24v distribution manifold, but that's a bit overkill.
just super insulate the water main coming inside and put all the hot and cold lines inside on the ceiling with pex
Hey john do you still purchase mobile home even if utilities are off and you can’t really inspect plumbing and electrical? Thank you get back to me ASAP.
Very good question. The answer is, it depends. However the absence of working utilities is not a dealbreaker for me. In my experience there may be electrical problems, however that is not usually the case. To redo much of the plumbing in a mobile home maybe around $1500. If the mobile home has gas lines these too may be leaking or damaged or missing. Between electric and gas I have been safe with estimating $2000 for most homes that are off. This means that if power and utilities are off I will estimate roughly $3500 in repairs. However I am usually very surprised does little to nothing is typically needed. Then again, sometimes that 3500 or more is used. Hope this helps a bit. Keep in touch moving forward. All the best. Talk soon, John
Scarey stuff
Thanks for watching! Certainly can be scary. The thing that scares me even more is getting into a bad deal in finding out the surprises after I have committed to the deal. Moving forward any follow-up mobile home questions never hesitate to reach out anytime.
New models 2023 are double what they were.
It is crazy right… It is amazing how much prices have risen on everything, but some manufactured homes have quadrupled in price since 2015. These places are definitely becoming less and less of affordable housing.
Is the only way to tell if the pipes are good is to tear open the underbelly and start running water
Hi Mildred! Thank you for reaching out and connecting. The answer to your question is, no. If this were the case then that would be pretty ridiculous if everyone were always cutting into the underbelly of every single mobile home. However this is a completely normal and valid question. The best way to get a mobile home inspected is to hire an inspector that will go all around the mobile home, including underneath it. From there you will be able to tell if there's been any water damage, leaks, broken pipes, etc. Keep in mind that when there is water spilling throughout a mobile home you will 100% see evidence of this problem. With that said going underneath the home definitely does help while inspecting the property. If you do not want to get underneath the trailer been absolutely do turn on all of the water in the home, flush all of the toilets, turn on the showers, etc. Then look underneath the home for any leaks or sound of water leaks. I hope this helps and makes some sense. If you have any follow-up questions or more specific questions never hesitate to reach back out anytime. All the best.
@@MobileHomeFormula thankyou so much. The artcraft I looked at months ago is still sitting for sale. It's small. 14 by 48. I'm thinking it will still be sitting for sale after the holidays. I believe they are winterized the mobilehome. We get brutal winters here in iowa
Looks like he used fryer oil as hair mouse ????
It's spelled, mousse.
Lol I love when ppl try and come for some one but then they get an education 😂 I’ve never heard of hair mouse 🐁 😂
Why on any mobile home never add over head cover protect from sun in summer . what I do i f I live mobile home keep heat off roof top. Make L. Angle from top add on to left or right joint ass add on car part. Cover over head mobile home keep heat off top help ele bills save on monthly ele top mobile home longer last even add patop too add on help get in side pour down raining storm proof mobile home well protect your Mobil invest yes head.
Hey Mike! Thanks for reaching out and commenting. Over the years I have seen very large carport looking structures covering smaller mobile homes and RVs. I have also seen the same carport designs made out of wood as well. I suppose that is kind of like a non-attached "roof over" and it definitely will protect the roof of the mobile home in most situations. Moving forward keep in touch and thanks again for watching. Any follow-up questions never hesitate to reach out any time.
They tonges detach today
Thanks for commenting Charles. Once they detach they're oftentimes slid underneath the front of the mobile homes or removed off the property completely. I have seen one or 2 movers steal these tongues as well. Whether welded on or bolted this is something a competent mobile home mover can provide if you need to rent a tongue in the event yours is missing. Keep in touch moving forward.
Save the water heater and just burn the thing down
That would make one big bonfire!