The problem is it COULD'VE WORKED.....if GW wasn't retarded about it by just shoe horning them in. Say Big E made them once upon a time before Erda turned on him thinking they'd be her personal guards....and just like that, I did a better job of retroactively putting female Custodies in the lore better than GW
Doesn't matter, Google has the algorithm put them on top no matter how much they've been ratio'd. Why do you think the dislikes 👎 were removed from TH-cam?
@@Marinealver That just means that people can go into their car moment section and expose them. And the controversy around their name will show up in forums that aren't controlled by the virtual matrix. The last thing they want is for more people to distrust them and see their products as an unneeded expense.
@qwads And to recite the litany of Corporation Disbandment Zero One One One Zero One One One He searched o'er the Infonet, saw Torrents, Bits and Bites He watched over his modem and it's flicking blue lights He had to sit and listen to the 3d Printers roar! "We ain't gonna buy no more!"
Wait a minute?! wait a damn minute!!! 3d printer....coded as toaster!!! oh my omnisiah!!! We all had the fabled toaster in front of us all this time!!! Gata print Rogal Dorn out anyways.
I am absolutely fine with people who only play WH as a means to win in a competitive game and not care about lore, that they don't give a f. I do however despise hypocrites who pretend to care about lore, yet would support any lore-defiling crap GW pushes.
For another reason why the Custodes have never included females, consider the mindset of the Emperor himself. He flat out refused to make female Astartes and Primarchs despite the fact that he had the means, the opportunity, and a perfectly viable female template in Erda. And despite Malcador straight up asking him to do it. Big E said NO. I find it difficult to believe he would be so adverse to female Astartes and Primarchs if he was already handcrafting them in his personal bodyguard.
He didn't want Astartes to replace humans. Funny, GW could have said Cawl just disagrees amd makes marine girls, because he wants to crossbreed a world eater and blood angel for science. But GW can't even be bothered to make up a flimsy excuse to pandering.
well he wanted to create the perfect warrior, so why would he take women who are much weaker than men. when men barely survive the operation and trials.
@@balazsvarga1823 They grow people in vats using crossed genes. What will wasting resources on creating female marines just to breed do that can't be accomplished with vats and science?
@@balazsvarga1823 No....that other person just made up some dumb random shit ..when we know they are all litterally built different, in vats, with a bunch of genes merged together.
@@OneDapperFrog 99 degrees. The net is dead and s propoganda and narrative tool, media is the same, and schools are actively trying to brainwash poison and chemically castrate children. Bigotry is becoming an instant defense mechanism and will lead to total distrust of society.
Reminds me of the saying about men who want to be left alone being the most dangerous when you take their freedom to be left alone away. SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE IT IS LADS
@@jackamatyus for now. but thanks to normie news its now going mainstream and the story is, the people who actually buy stuff are upset. those stocks will go down.
You forgot MajorShill, the guy that made a hitpiece on Archcast. Naturally, he agreed 100% and then promoted his smutt. Also, I'll always remember Bricky for shilling Lawbreakers lol
Majorcringe is objectively one of the worst warhammer youtubers. Cringe 11 year old humor mixed with lore videos that get basic stuff wrong, and read like he's written the script from memory of reading the 1d4chan article once 6 months ago. Though his take on this isn't surprising at all as he's said he wouldn't care if they introduced female space marines.
It only works if the ones who own or lead it don't let them in, and right now even though fans have kept that gate closed, the 'king' got payed to open it to the peoples dismay.
What pisses me off about these "who gives a shit, it's not that big of a deal" fence sitters is that they clearly don't know what slippery slope is. It started like this with D&D too, with small, seemingly insignificant changes, and look how butchered it is now
the Narcisist Prayer I'd not that big a deal If it is you're over reacting If you're not Its not that important If it is the chnage is better anyway bigot EVERY time
I my experience, every single one of the "who gives a shit, it is not a bid deal", do care. They just put their personal politicks above the hobby. So, for them, it is a win that it get changed, they only say "who cares" because they want to gasslight you. If any change went the other way, they would scream "bloody murder". They also do not care, if it will ruin the hobby for everybody else, because all that matter is politicks.
@@haraldbredsdorff2699sounds like a strawman from you, many people like myself don't really care, we will continue to enjoy the hobby, the lore and the amazing minis. The experience won't change.
Gw didn't even do as well as Bricky wanted. They didn't even make an excuse with with Cawl or Bile. They just gaslighted straight away. Custodes has always had orks in their ranks. I don't want to stay. It is like a burger that a hobo made love to. I am not hungry anymore.
The difference is that the hobo would probably be genuine in his love of the burger. These people saw you were enjoying your burger, got upset at your joy, took it from your hands and took a dump in it only to spite you
An Ork Kommando that has spent the last 10,000 years with "da most kunnin' disguise eva' " patiently waiting for the return of the Emperor. His kunning logic is that when the ooimes biggest warboss wakes up he will get first krak at him.
Having been in 40k for close to 30 years, the "there have been other retcons" completely rubs me the wrong way because while it's not wrong, they were A) met with about as much vitriol as this, and B) they actually had SOME lore, no matter how shitty, to explain why it was a thing. GW has never once done a "It's always been this way" outright lie without anything at all backing it up until now. Even trash like Newcrons or Primaris had lore (the former being an actual retcon) to explain it. And that's the worst part. They literally just had to do a paragraph saying that it turns out the custodes also take daughters, and that would have been that. Instead they resorted to blatant lies and gaslighting and then blocking anyone calling them out.
A fan wrote TWO paragraphs that would have made sense VS "they've always been there. Shut up." All it takes is an "trajan ordered the use of daughters blah blah" but also. Why would you cut down your ability to breed pure-terran stock to create the custodae? It makes literally 0 sense even with an explanation
@@actuallyKriminell Warhammer as a whole exists in spite of GW as a whole (when they don't just take it out). thinking back, another point to some of the Retcons were they expanded how some of the story could go. I was one of the people who first heard about Warhammer 40k not that long after the time of the newcrons, and even when i had issue with the idea, the fact that they could tell different potential stories via the newcrons was something i could at least agree may have some teeth. Getting told during all this by an ex-GW writer that there's no such thing as "fact" in the setting, is not inspiring me to care about the overpriced plastic toys. we know they are retcon happy, but the idea that they honestly shouldn't/don't give one care about consistency means it's just the most blatant manipulation to buy said overpriced plastic toys. found out several defining moments I liked have been retconned in recent years as a bonus during all this.
There's actually nothing in the lore that states female Custodes Can't exist; The passage people keep sighting refers to 'modern' Terran nobility offering up their sons as tribute. The Custodes were created before the Imperial Palace was constructed, so it's safe to say their recruiting practices may have changed over the years. Since they are explicitly Not Space Marines, and the process to make them is explicitly different, there is no actual lore stating there would be any issue with a female being turned into a Custodes. Given that the original Custodes were all created by the Emperor himself, and many of that original batch are still around, it's entirely possible that the female members that currently exist have just always been there. Recruitment methods ten thousand years apart could easily have changed; Just because Terran nobility prefer seeing their daughters become Sisters of Battle, or enter the Commiserate, where their prestige might actually be put to use some day for the good of the family.
All the GW supporters use the same excuse, “the lore is a mess, so whatever”. That’s all they have. How is defending bad writers and bad lore management a credible argument?
This goes a step further in my opinion. It's one thing to change the lore for political reasons and then defend it because "the lore changes all the time." It's another thing entirely to change the lore and then pretend that "it's always been that way".
As I've said before, Lore retconning because GW is idiotic is one thing, but retconning something for political/malicious reasons is unacceptable. The intention of the retcons is what annoys people more than the retcons themselves.
But you have to admit it is a bit weird that this rather minor lore change is what makes people supposedly quit. Where was the massive outrage when GW claimed that the Leagues of Votann have always been around? Or the Rogal Dorn tank?
@@ishitrealbad3039 By who? The cancelers were infiltrated by billionaires and alphabet agents as the Twitter files exposed so their credibility is shot with the normals.
40K CC really really let me down. Majorkill being an ass with his 18+ fem custodes patreon ads. Valrak and Bricky playing it safe and to some extant, Leutin too.
Bricky is just a useful idiot who will always just say "there's not anything wrong with X" until its something that he likes getting hit. You bet your ass he'd protest if they retconned Cadia just getting blown up by Blackstone fortresses blowing it up death star style with no resistance
majorshill lives in Australia a woke hellscape u can be jailed for bad speak or have ur channel nuked so of course he had to take this up the ass and not be his typical edgelord self but thats why we call him majorshill hes always just been a wannabe meme lord shitposter for warhammer and instead of relocating to a place that wouldnt keep fucking w his vids cuz plenty have been nah he goes in Europe holidays and does other stupid shit to burn money he dug his own hole glad hes bleeding subs now and gets to rot in it considering how much art hes used for vids w no credits for fucking ages and scapegoats his editors for
Majorshill sucks. All he does is sell smut and he couldn't even produce and ship out his "holy king" model that is still having customers wait for their pre order over 2 years ago. Glad I pirated that model.
Thank you so much for NOT being a GW shill. I love 40k, it's a great game, but GW has always treated their customers with the utmost disdain and contempt. This video has been a breath of fresh air.
They weren't always. I still have a stack of tattered old White Dwarf magazines with articles and advice that would get modern GW drones sacked like "make your own terrain using whatever" or "use non-citadel miniatures as standins if you need to". The local storefront staff were just nerds who loved the hobby too and hosted rowdy games nights. When my dad ordered one of their big Battlefleet Gothic starter fleet deals (they didn't do curated box sets nearly as much back then), the Trollz were already running out some of the kits, so they sent what they could with a (deliberately) crudely-scrawled note and threw in a bunch of extras we *didn't* order while we waited for them to ship us the rest. I'm legitimately sad I didn't keep that note. Sure, most of this this should be the bare minimum, but GW used to have human beings working for them is my point.
I'm glad to see the 40K fans standing there ground I hope they start organizing so they can more effectively hit GW in the wallet until they're forced to reverse this change.
@@ScourgeAmaris Okay? But we've already let them do that for years. Remember the Necron changes in 5th edition? We all got upset about Primaris Marines for 8th Edition and yet we all bought them and GW makes more money than ever. Remember when the Squats were all just magically eaten by Tyranids and then suddenly they weren't? Shit, when Rogue Trader first came out, Custodes were weird naked dudes and the Primarchs and Chaos didn't exist! These were all things that were added or changed as time went on. Femstodes are not the hill to die on. They don't break the lore and people getting this ass mad about it just end up looking like idiots who shouldn't be taken seriously.
@@vsGoliath96 Well the reason this one might work is the slippery slope and political nature of this. Black rock and vanguard both own massive stocks in GW these people are well known shareholders who push their political agenda in games all the time. This was probably why for the change, we can excuse the other changes for being just straight up terrible lore changes but not really malicious. This one has a possible person pulling the strings from behind and perhaps a huge political agenda trying to push DEI in Warhammer. Not just that but GW is straight up pretending this wasn't a change and saying they always existed which is just plain wrong, they are trying to pull a fast one on the fans and are rightfully getting called out for it.
@@ScourgeAmaris Hey man, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Scroll down a bit because this may be shocking... Adding women to something in a way that doesn't break the lore is not a political agenda and it's kind of ridiculous to think it is. They make up 50% of the population of the planet.
Im shocked a few 40k creators said that the lore is correct and that female custodes were always around and the backlash is uncalled for. I suspect they are on the take or woke sjws....either way it's disheartening.
It's probably because there was no solid reason given as to why it was males only beyond the Emperor saying so, unlike the Astartes who must be male in order to be genetically compatible with the gene-seed zygote
I unsubscribed to all the big warhammer youtubers, because they basically said and did the exact same thing they are all in for femcustodies mommy muscle retcone, I've been asking them that question also what would make the femcustod special, the only answer they gave me is "because they're women"
Oh so they're a weaker specimen but better than the best combat killing machines that men have been and always will be.. I'm going to start putting tu-tus on my custodes now... All they are good for with the new codex drop is getting pounded
40k was never going to survive contact with the normies. We need to take our beloved franchises and protect them ourselves. We cannot reason with these people. Fire up the 3d printer, dig out the old lore books and let's make this happen.
@@Sluhrmz All recent hires where I work have been DEI motivated. We even have an EDI officer where I am in the IT section of an insurance company. He's an utter fruitcake.
Not that Games Workshop will care, but they are about to find out that activists don't actually buy the products that they cry about. This is where Black Rock and Vanguard come in
People who say "Who cares" are not fencesitting, they have actively chosen to accept this and they are trying to mitigate or deflect the anger of the people who are opposed to it.
No that's not the case we not trying deflect anger we just believe your making this out to bigger then it needs to be and think unrealistic anger is not needed. It changes so vary little that it really doesn't matter. Female custodes are within reason and not really all that outlandish.
@@clearegorgon7297they are multi billion dollar investment companies that have publicly stated their desire to enforce their particular ideology by forcing other companies to do what they want if they want to get the investment money. Outside of pop culture, Blackrock and Vanguard have been buying up land and property at ridiculous mark ups to force regular buyers out of the housing market.
Belisarius Cawl and his consequences have been a disaster to the setting. "Oh, just have Cawl, magic it into existence and it's all good!" Bunch of wankers.
Luetin is a hypocrite for saying "if you want consistency, this isn't the hobby for you" considering he spends hundreds of hours trying to find consistencies in 40K lore and adressing what is canon and what is not.
I was thinking that too. Its baffling. I get it when we're talking about minor points like the physics of a perpetual, the use of time travel, or the functioning of the warp; stuff that they really can mess with and show in all different directions, but other things are more bedrock and to undermine them makes everything shaky. So his "none of this really matters," take is insane to me. His whole channel is lore from different franchises. That's gone if none of it matters. Everything he does and had ever done says it all matters a lot.
I hated his response. Considering what he does, you'd think it would matter more to him. I think that's him trying not to take a side in order to appear neutral.
@@uruk_bye1232 bro his entire response was almost the same as GW. "Well i'm a father so why would i care, if you don't like it this isn't the hobby for you" dude showed his true colours right than and there.
@@ishitrealbad3039 I took that as sign that he has failed to remember where his income comes from. If 40k fans start leaving because of bad lore making the setting unattractive then how does he expect his channel to survive? He is bitting the hand that feeds him and his family unless his wife makes insane income or he is doing something quiet on the side.
In the dimly lit hallway of the cobra-class destroyer. Calladayce Taurovalia Kesh , the custodian, moved with purpose. Her mop, worn and frayed, was more than a cleaning tool-it was her partner in an unspoken dance. The floor, marred by countless footsteps and blood, awaited its nightly transformation. But tonight, Kesh had other plans. She wasn’t merely here to sweep away dust and grime; She was here to bear witness to a future where GW digs their own grave!
Hey man I discovered you because of this debacle. Keep of the good work man! I will always love 40k but im personally done. I had big plans for making a pure scion army. I own 2 armies and 94 black library books. I read probably three new books on average a month and for a few years now i have been going heavy on 40k stuff. No more. Ill spend my money on other hobbies. I own a total of 428 books currently. There is plenty of fantastic sci fi out and plenty of other hobbies I can occupy my time with. I have a buddy who is big into 3d printing whos offering everyone in game store group that he will 3d print minis for cost of materials. The only thing they have of value is the setting. Many of us only buy minis and the books to support them.
I left the hobby a while ago and it was only a matter of time before GW bent the knee as if their crummy business practices weren't enough. Everything the woke touches turns to shit and we'll have to resort to gatekeeping, homebrewing and 3D printing to the extreme. When 40k becomes irrelevant we will be the ones to say "you will not be missed"
Thing is the Woke have adopted the Vaush dEbAtE strategy. Challenge you to a debate, don't let the other talk, insult them after the "debate", declare victory over all.
I dunno, I kinda smelt it in the books for about the last quarter of the HH, especially the more recent Solar War and End and Death. They kinda slide it in in small ways when they have a chance. It wasn't the Emperor that made marines, it was a strong, empowered woman no one has ever heard of called Erda. Everything the Emps has, he stole (coloniser narrative). That can be fine if it's only one take on events or second hand knowledge that the fanbase can debate in both directions, but it isnt. That's now canon. The knowledge to do anything genetic was stolen. All the SMs and custodes seem to have rich, dark skin in their descriptions now, otherwise theyre not described. The women who always seem to be the captains on the ships (eye roll every time- gimme one male ship captain who isnt shit) are always teaching the immortal marines who are four times their age how to be braver or stronger or wiser.
For me it was just the total and in my opinion malicious deconstruction of the emperors myth. I think it has taken much more from the setting, rather than adding to it. Making everything relativ or overly complex/detailed is not always a good thing. But hey, a majority seems to like it.
The Emperor was a woman which is why she was passive agressive and spiteful towards her children and why everything fell apart because Single Mother problems brought to a galactic level.
Same. It won’t matter in the long run because of the people who will just say it doesn’t matter cause he is likable and funny and keep supporting him, but whatever. He is a talented entertainer.
That illegal and carries the fine that would bankrupt you for the rest of your life the cost of miniatures does not even come close to fine you would be incurring much less the expense of the lawyer's. Don't do it man.
Comment for the algorithm gods. Also - I agree. Even if worst comes to worst, I don't need Games Workshop to play Warhammer - but they certainly need an audience to continue holding the rights to make Warhammer products.
See this is how I deal with canon for other IPs as well. Star Trek, Star Wars, Xmen, Spiderman. It just ended at the woke point somewhere around 2014/15. I say, "yeah, these things were great, but they got corrupted and died. Watch the first movies and read these books. They're great, but then they fall off a cliff." Even in older Spiderman the Spiderverse just doesn't exist to me. It's a shit add on from where they couldn't think of new stories. It's just sad because none of these IPs were anywhere near a conclusion if they'd just not used them as vehicles for divisive politics, or undermined their own lore for divisive modern dayisms.
The problem with Gate Keeping is that it is not very effective if the IP holders don't side with their fans. As long as the IP holders hold the door wide open for tourists to come and destroy the franchise, there's not much we can do other than close our wallets and boycott.
I have an issue with gatekeeping, i understand the fandoms want to defend their hobby from actually problematic people, but the problem is that it becomes very hard for newcommers to join. I think if you gatekeep, you should be carefull about how you bring your oppinions out
There is one other thing that we as fans can do and that is create our own content with the IP. We need to show what 40k is at its core even if GW refuses to do so. We have all long since known that GW doesn't do outside media very well what with youtube videos like Astartes, Lord Inquisitor, and even TTS all being wildly popular ways that people have gotten into the lore. It's all because the fans took the IP and made it into what it could and should be instead of whatever diversity hire DEI advisor demanded what the IP should be.
I reckon this has something to do with Henry Cavil's production of Amazon's 40K adaptation. They all know Henry respects the lore and loves the hobby so they made this announcement to tie his hands
Nope this isn't about him. Also, Cavill's a proven GW boy, (even calling the Emperor Neoth at some post) he is not the saviour the 40k nerds think he is, just because he's famous, buff, handsome and talks Warhammer..
This comment is originally in Spanish, sorry for any grammatical error. Good morning community: the reason for this comment is to "report" if that is what one of the main ambassadors of Spanish-speaking Games Workshop could be called. First I want to put in context that this news (female custodians) was leaked by The Voice of Horus (Voz de Horus) at a global level (chapter master Valrak confirms it in his video), the Voice of Horus continually releases a podcast announcing the news both for the rules and also talking about the custodes, which they do in a mocking way trying to create discord among those of us who do not think that this retcon was a good idea. When I finished listening to that podcast, I went to give my respectful opinion in the comments box, letting it be known that I did not agree with their opinion and that I also thought it was in very bad taste that being one of the main Spanish-speaking ambassadors of Warhammer They will not take the division of the community seriously but rather the opposite by promoting it, following which they delete not only my comment, but also those of others who do not think the same and also restrict comments on their IVoox podcast. We all know what happens when a community is divided and it is unfortunate that the same ambassadors are the ones who promote it. I just hope I don't see a star wars in warhammer 40k. Thank you in advance community for taking the time to read and I hope I have not made you uncomfortable.
The funny thing is. If they want fem-Custodes they could have made a better justification than “they always exist” They could have said that fem-Custodes are a new thing. like “since the Custodes join the indomitus crusade, the Custodes now recruit from both Terran noble sons and daughters to replenish losses and double their numbers” Still be a bad idea to make female Custodes. But it would have at least been the least insulting way to do it.
Yeah, they did it in the most insulting way possible. Next up, Abaddon will have always been a misunderstood girl. They can't even make a story about Cawl inventing new geneseed amd sticking it in a few battlesisters for science.
It just doesn't even make sense in any story. Yours is better than theirs but even then, for a woman to be custodes is for them to genetically alter her into being a man. So all custodes are potentionally trans. Great.
A bunch of guys who depend on GW are on their side(who guessed, right?). They win certain benefits to be, and they have a career because of that. Now the tourists are crazy using these examples on that are on their side... When 40k becomes Age of Sigmar, even these ones will start dropping.
Also, please note all the TH-camrs 40k who say “I don’t have a problem with it and are completely fine with it.” Because every TH-camr that said this is OK , i’ve of unsubscribed from Because there is no way these guys don’t know this changes for ideological purposes, and so they can make the female space marines down the line Sadly, Majorkill who I’ve been subscribed to for a long time Chapter Master Valrak the guy that I originally heard this from and I preemptively unsubscribe to others like Sandman of Terra and I know he’s gonna be OK with it because he streams with a British Indian guy who says I would like female space marines, and everyone in the chat said no WesHammer but I have subscribed to new channels like this one
This is the death blow for it I know a few people including me that out right canceled orders for models are books. Hope it was worth it GW you killed the golden goose.
Looking at their stock price, it's been falling by 1% since the announcement. While this drop isn't necessarily caused by this change alone, it's most likely caused by the Custodes codex being bad, Tau pre-orders not being a thing, no stock on anything ever, etc.
Nah bro, Brickies videos are shit, he does the TTS thing of boiling down the lore to such a degree that it becomes palatable for Marvel fans and fills it shitty memes. His videos do so much damage to the integrity of the lore that I doubt that he has any love for warhammer outside of its profitability.
So, I think the way this can be salvaged is that GW release a statement saying that they are not full custodes, but rather human auxiliaries that bare modified versions of Custodian power armor and weaponry in combat and training drills similar to how Inquisitors can get access to modified tactical dreadnought armor. And outside of combat, they essentially act as the silent hand of the Custodes within the Senate Imperialis and the other apparatuses of Imperial Bureaucracy keeping their master's appraised of the comings and goings of the wider galaxy.
If it makes you feel better Asmo, even in Luetins comments section, there is a lot of push back from his audience. Just cause he may be wanting to stay neutral and ignore this, dose not mean his audience does.
They are bringing down the heroic ideal, something so fundamental to this universe. Women cannot slay the mythical beast, the dragon, the minotaur etc. The realm of physical heroes is reserved for elitest of gigachads. No normal man and no woman has a space there. We want to admire these heroes not identify as them
I've never really been a big fan of Warhammer, I've watched some gameplay here and there but know very minimum about the lore, but I just wanted to take a moment to share my condolences. Y'all deserve better, and I hope everyone upset at this unneeded retcon speaks with their wallet. Hold em accountable.
Oh and for those saying it isn’t a big deal , if it’s not a big deal than why do it at all ? Obviously some people think it’s a very big deal and it isn’t just those against the lore retcons and the lies to justify it.
Orks and fantasy O&G- greenskins in general, were given a large retcon; they were changed from a more traditional tribal race of peoples to what we know them as now: fungus. This is an example of a large retcon of their entire concept with the crucial difference that it was made with the intention of making them BETTER and more fit for the setting. This is the opposite to the approach the woke take.
I knew sticking with Arch was the correct choice. Most "influencers" kept and keep quiet about GW stupid decisions. But saying nothing ro this shitshow or even defending it, is another level of cowardice...
the funniest thing is seeing that finally this isnt just 10 guys complaining on reddit, 70% of comments on any GW tweet now is about how they don't support this and the people they're trying to label as "grifters labeling stuff as woke" or "a small right wing part of the community" are very obviously the actual community
Battletech also has a noted anti-corporate scene. Razorfist has a good video on how one can support Battletech without supporting Catalyst who owns the IP.
I really just hate this entire situation. The past two weeks have not been a fun one for me. The only silver lining and slight amusement I've gotten is seeing one random person who said the Fallout show (that further ruined the already butchered lore) was great and they "clearly loved the source material" who was also upset by femstodes because it ruins the lore. The irony amused me, but GW selling out and my last bastion going woke wasn't really worth the slight chuckle I got from that.
I know what you mean. As much as I expected it to happen someday (AoS, Old World and some 40k storys were already on that trajectory with swaps, new femal inserts and diversity), I still find myself to be a tiny bit devestated. Thought I was prepared and wouldn,t care. Even after Star Wars, Star Trek etc., a nerds pathetic heart still bleeds lol.
As a reminder Luetin was one of the ones invited to the Dawn of War 3 stuff, and didnt have any criticisms of it. He sold out a long time ago. And Majorkill literally said he doesnt care if they make female space marines. As for the rest of it, fire up those printers. Theres plenty of alternative models and stls that are direct copies of gw models.
No major kill never said that. It's a blatantly a lie. As a reminder major kill said he did not like female spacemerines because they defeat the point of having a female character. He realty said he go with female custodes so long there lore as they had lore.
@@JasonKing-b1u he made a video a while ago about his thoughts on female space marines. To put it simply, he said he doesn't care about female space marines one way or the other because sisters of battle are cooler than marines. He doesn't care.
Bricky was the main reason i got back into the hobby. And adeptus ridiculous is one of my favorite podcasts to listen to well painting, but i can't say im surprised he has that opinion. Also, you mentioned about not engaging in 9th edition, i wasn't in the hobby during ninth did something happen? As ninth was the edition was what I was going back to
It would take a significant fan joint movement in not buying new products, but the issue is people won't. They would only take it seriously if sales dropped off a cliff
I'm not leaving the hobby,but I am changing how I spend money within the hobby. I'm just gonna buy second hand models and non GW paint,also considering getting a 3D printer.
Games Workshop think they're Disney. They keep this nonsense up they'll need to learn how to file bankruptcy. You do not piss off the customer base of a niche hobby
Scary thing is that it's pretty public now how bad things are at Disney. Star Wars has lost billions in value. Marvel is dying. Their movies are bombing. It got so bad they almost voted out the CEO. It's a clear dumpster fire. How can anyone look at modern Disney and say, yes this what we want to emulate.
@@nickchavez720 And if an eighty year old company with near limitless money can be brought to the desperate state it is in, imagine a company a quarter of the size with almost half the time in existence.
@linhnghiem943 I'm keeping and playing what I have. Just no more. A boycott will not save it. Not anytime soon. If it fixes itself, maybe I'll be back, until then I'll paint other minis.
@5:40 honestly, as much as this guy sucks, at least he is straight-up and honest about this. We all know this is exactly true and what they want to do, but then we have all these fence-sitters and deniers who go along with it, pretend otherwise, and essentially gaslight people. It’s actually refreshing to see the enemy being open about things.
This is why after SW I only care about lore made by dead men. Edit: nah. Leave and burn it on the way out. It is a corporate property made by living people that hate you. They wont change. This isn't a terrible Dune movie that I dont care about because I have the book. This never ends unless they make it so
I think you’re slightly unfair to Luetin, he did point out some arguments for and against. I think he has *some* point about the nature of 40k lore, but I do also believe in a fundamentally consistent foundation. I staunchly oppose female Custodes and Astartes.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.
I bailed out of the Star Wars fandom for good once Disney got a hold of the setting, de-canonized the existing lore (the Expanded Universe) and began to re-create the Galaxy Far, Far Away in it's own unholy image... For the past 2 or 3 years I've been tentatively exploring 40K, reading the Black Library books and some of the game manuals like Wrath and Glory (I'm more of an old school RPG gamer rather than a wargamer), and I don't think I have it in me to quit *another* fandom that I've taken a liking to.
I've sworn off GW tbh. I know you said not to leave the hobby, but man, after this, its difficult to summon the willpower to care about he setting in general.
It's difficult to feel excited about something when it's being controlled by people who clearly don't care about it. Eventually it will correct itself. Look at Disnsy, wizards of the coast, and others. All of them are struggling. It's not a question of are they going to fall. Its question of how much damage they are going to do.
It is only an enemy who say your gates should be unguarded and stay open
Ironic GW forgot a quote from their own Dawn of War game. "An open mind is like a fortress, with its gates unbarred and unguarded".
Yes, women are definitely the enemy 🤡
Fence sitters are a big part of what got us here in the first place.
Yup its time to take a side this is a pivotal moment and all these fence sitters are pathetic.
The problem is it COULD'VE WORKED.....if GW wasn't retarded about it by just shoe horning them in. Say Big E made them once upon a time before Erda turned on him thinking they'd be her personal guards....and just like that, I did a better job of retroactively putting female Custodies in the lore better than GW
Fence sitters are cowards. ^^
@@MWH12085 or they could just expand on SOB or SOS
Many such cases
We gotta unsubscribe from all these Warhammer influencers who backed this political retcon they got to feel the burn too
Doesn't matter, Google has the algorithm put them on top no matter how much they've been ratio'd.
Why do you think the dislikes 👎 were removed from TH-cam?
@@Marinealver That just means that people can go into their car moment section and expose them.
And the controversy around their name will show up in forums that aren't controlled by the virtual matrix.
The last thing they want is for more people to distrust them and see their products as an unneeded expense.
not really since it didn't happen to their faction army.
You are cringe
Purge the heretic brother!
One tweet is answered by 10,000 3D printers awakening to go burrr.
@qwads "I brought more fans then you did old friend."
Sing the praises of the Omnissiah and Bless the Holy Machine that it's Spirit may be appeased to ward off Corruption!
Yep, I'm in the process of printing some female Custodes heads for my next shield captain as I type this!
@qwads And to recite the litany of Corporation Disbandment
Zero One One One Zero One One One
He searched o'er the Infonet, saw Torrents, Bits and Bites
He watched over his modem and it's flicking blue lights
He had to sit and listen to the 3d Printers roar!
"We ain't gonna buy no more!"
Wait a minute?! wait a damn minute!!! 3d printer....coded as toaster!!! oh my omnisiah!!! We all had the fabled toaster in front of us all this time!!!
Gata print Rogal Dorn out anyways.
Some of these guys don't wanna get blacklisted and not get free stuff
Bingo. This is being played out in video games, comic books, star wars, you name it.
We call those people shills.
Sellouts.
I am absolutely fine with people who only play WH as a means to win in a competitive game and not care about lore, that they don't give a f. I do however despise hypocrites who pretend to care about lore, yet would support any lore-defiling crap GW pushes.
For another reason why the Custodes have never included females, consider the mindset of the Emperor himself. He flat out refused to make female Astartes and Primarchs despite the fact that he had the means, the opportunity, and a perfectly viable female template in Erda. And despite Malcador straight up asking him to do it. Big E said NO. I find it difficult to believe he would be so adverse to female Astartes and Primarchs if he was already handcrafting them in his personal bodyguard.
He didn't want Astartes to replace humans. Funny, GW could have said Cawl just disagrees amd makes marine girls, because he wants to crossbreed a world eater and blood angel for science.
But GW can't even be bothered to make up a flimsy excuse to pandering.
well he wanted to create the perfect warrior, so why would he take women who are much weaker than men. when men barely survive the operation and trials.
@@balazsvarga1823 They grow people in vats using crossed genes.
What will wasting resources on creating female marines just to breed do that can't be accomplished with vats and science?
@@incognit01233 GW came up with that not me. Ask them. Cloning has always been an on and off thing they could never decide upon.
@@balazsvarga1823 No....that other person just made up some dumb random shit ..when we know they are all litterally built different, in vats, with a bunch of genes merged together.
"An open mind is like a fortress, with its gates unbarred and unguarded"
An unironically good quote in this day and age. Closed mindedness is actually a virtue now.
@@clydemarshall8095 To a degree.
@@OneDapperFrog 99 degrees.
The net is dead and s propoganda and narrative tool, media is the same, and schools are actively trying to brainwash poison and chemically castrate children.
Bigotry is becoming an instant defense mechanism and will lead to total distrust of society.
@@OneDapperFrog It's 100% apt. Even the sleightest crack or sign of weakness is pounced on by those people.
💯
Every avenue of escapism men have will be torn down
then our next escapism will be khorne worship in the real world.
one skull at a time.
And when bored young men rebel they will blame us despite bored young men statistically always being the biggest threat to any nation historically
Reminds me of the saying about men who want to be left alone being the most dangerous when you take their freedom to be left alone away. SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE IT IS LADS
@@nickvanachthoven7252 *Based*
Let the stocks hit the floor, Let the stocks hit the floor, Let the stocks hit the floor,Let the stocks hit the ......FLOOOOORR
If they do, maybe we can buy it dirt cheap and have some say in how the company is run.
And Blackrock will buy more stock and have a bigger influence on warhammer
The stock price has barely changed lol
@@jackamatyus for now. but thanks to normie news its now going mainstream and the story is, the people who actually buy stuff are upset.
those stocks will go down.
GW stuff meet Ollie's
For Bretonnia's new lore they added female knights that shoot bows in the latest novel. That's several layers of lore-breaking changes.
They really should have just had a single named female knight a la Joan of Arc
No doubt there are as many woman who can draw a 140 lb war bow as men. Makes sense.
@@jonpru82so in the past bretonnia allowed female knights, and range warfare I wonder what happed in the next 300 years to make them reduce both?
When they threatened to bring back WFB I was nothing but concerned. I was right to be.
You forgot MajorShill, the guy that made a hitpiece on Archcast. Naturally, he agreed 100% and then promoted his smutt.
Also, I'll always remember Bricky for shilling Lawbreakers lol
I would say majordurr is smut, but that would be an insult to smut.
You mean Australian "one mind syndicate"
@@hubbablahloo1843 Koalas are smarter than him. Look up koala brains.
Majorcringe is objectively one of the worst warhammer youtubers. Cringe 11 year old humor mixed with lore videos that get basic stuff wrong, and read like he's written the script from memory of reading the 1d4chan article once 6 months ago.
Though his take on this isn't surprising at all as he's said he wouldn't care if they introduced female space marines.
What’s lawbreakers ? And Bricky is a Nightlord of course he breaks the law.
Remember, this is why we should gatekeep
HOLD THE WALL
It only works if the ones who own or lead it don't let them in, and right now even though fans have kept that gate closed, the 'king' got payed to open it to the peoples dismay.
you are gatekeeping a poisoned chalice. cut gw out of your hobby. we dont need them
Lol, what a great joke! 🤣
ye and luckily i love braking down gates so flip off
What pisses me off about these "who gives a shit, it's not that big of a deal" fence sitters is that they clearly don't know what slippery slope is. It started like this with D&D too, with small, seemingly insignificant changes, and look how butchered it is now
the Narcisist Prayer
I'd not that big a deal
If it is you're over reacting
If you're not Its not that important
If it is the chnage is better anyway bigot
EVERY time
They just agree with it in private because it matches their political view. They just are cowards not wanting to take a side.
@@YaboitheCadian they are so indoctrinated or just selfishly pushing their own propaganda... "tHiS iS a cIvIl RiGhtS iSSue yOu biGGot"
I my experience, every single one of the "who gives a shit, it is not a bid deal", do care.
They just put their personal politicks above the hobby.
So, for them, it is a win that it get changed, they only say "who cares" because they want to gasslight you.
If any change went the other way, they would scream "bloody murder".
They also do not care, if it will ruin the hobby for everybody else, because all that matter is politicks.
@@haraldbredsdorff2699sounds like a strawman from you, many people like myself don't really care, we will continue to enjoy the hobby, the lore and the amazing minis. The experience won't change.
I utterly despise Mikey from Hellstorm Wargaming. Your description of him is on-point.
Fully agree that hell storm guy is a clown.
Just seeing him makes me feel greasy
Gw didn't even do as well as Bricky wanted. They didn't even make an excuse with with Cawl or Bile. They just gaslighted straight away.
Custodes has always had orks in their ranks.
I don't want to stay. It is like a burger that a hobo made love to. I am not hungry anymore.
The difference is that the hobo would probably be genuine in his love of the burger. These people saw you were enjoying your burger, got upset at your joy, took it from your hands and took a dump in it only to spite you
@@victoriencharnot555 Definately. Leftists have a thing for eating what comes out of their butts. I do not share their aquired taste.
An Ork Kommando that has spent the last 10,000 years with "da most kunnin' disguise eva' " patiently waiting for the return of the Emperor. His kunning logic is that when the ooimes biggest warboss wakes up he will get first krak at him.
@@Hybris51129 Sounds better than anything GW would write!
Well, the first rock tumbles, now let’s see how this goes
Female and trans Space Marines is where it goes. We all know it.
Female and trans Space Marines is where it goes. We all know it.
@@poolee77 and now I know your not an fan, just fell for the bait.
@@jamesknighton4489 It will happen whether you like it or not.
@@poolee77 no it wouldn’t going by GW stocks they will double back on it
Having been in 40k for close to 30 years, the "there have been other retcons" completely rubs me the wrong way because while it's not wrong, they were A) met with about as much vitriol as this, and B) they actually had SOME lore, no matter how shitty, to explain why it was a thing. GW has never once done a "It's always been this way" outright lie without anything at all backing it up until now. Even trash like Newcrons or Primaris had lore (the former being an actual retcon) to explain it.
And that's the worst part. They literally just had to do a paragraph saying that it turns out the custodes also take daughters, and that would have been that. Instead they resorted to blatant lies and gaslighting and then blocking anyone calling them out.
I agree, its a non argument, absolutely meaningless drone slop. 40K persists in spite of those retcons, not because of them
A fan wrote TWO paragraphs that would have made sense VS "they've always been there. Shut up."
All it takes is an "trajan ordered the use of daughters blah blah" but also. Why would you cut down your ability to breed pure-terran stock to create the custodae? It makes literally 0 sense even with an explanation
@@actuallyKriminell Warhammer as a whole exists in spite of GW as a whole (when they don't just take it out). thinking back, another point to some of the Retcons were they expanded how some of the story could go. I was one of the people who first heard about Warhammer 40k not that long after the time of the newcrons, and even when i had issue with the idea, the fact that they could tell different potential stories via the newcrons was something i could at least agree may have some teeth.
Getting told during all this by an ex-GW writer that there's no such thing as "fact" in the setting, is not inspiring me to care about the overpriced plastic toys. we know they are retcon happy, but the idea that they honestly shouldn't/don't give one care about consistency means it's just the most blatant manipulation to buy said overpriced plastic toys. found out several defining moments I liked have been retconned in recent years as a bonus during all this.
Even if they did add such a paragraph of justification, I’d oppose it on principle.
There's actually nothing in the lore that states female Custodes Can't exist; The passage people keep sighting refers to 'modern' Terran nobility offering up their sons as tribute. The Custodes were created before the Imperial Palace was constructed, so it's safe to say their recruiting practices may have changed over the years.
Since they are explicitly Not Space Marines, and the process to make them is explicitly different, there is no actual lore stating there would be any issue with a female being turned into a Custodes.
Given that the original Custodes were all created by the Emperor himself, and many of that original batch are still around, it's entirely possible that the female members that currently exist have just always been there. Recruitment methods ten thousand years apart could easily have changed; Just because Terran nobility prefer seeing their daughters become Sisters of Battle, or enter the Commiserate, where their prestige might actually be put to use some day for the good of the family.
If I have to hear the words “muscle mommies” from the “SOB don’t count they’re too sexualized you porn addict” crowd…
A clear example of double standards and double think
Well you have to be testosterone-deficient and mentally underdeveloped to be woke, so maybe masculine women really are attractive to woke boys? 🤷♂
Because they know they'll look like dudes.
In order to be muscle mommies they would need mammaries, which no female Custodes would have as those are useless.
The best way to protest is to buy 3D printers.
Im broke, ill just stick to printing out pictures of units instead
All the GW supporters use the same excuse, “the lore is a mess, so whatever”. That’s all they have. How is defending bad writers and bad lore management a credible argument?
it's not, they're just afraid to get cancelled
This goes a step further in my opinion. It's one thing to change the lore for political reasons and then defend it because "the lore changes all the time."
It's another thing entirely to change the lore and then pretend that "it's always been that way".
As I've said before, Lore retconning because GW is idiotic is one thing, but retconning something for political/malicious reasons is unacceptable. The intention of the retcons is what annoys people more than the retcons themselves.
But you have to admit it is a bit weird that this rather minor lore change is what makes people supposedly quit. Where was the massive outrage when GW claimed that the Leagues of Votann have always been around? Or the Rogal Dorn tank?
@@ishitrealbad3039 By who?
The cancelers were infiltrated by billionaires and alphabet agents as the Twitter files exposed so their credibility is shot with the normals.
40K CC really really let me down. Majorkill being an ass with his 18+ fem custodes patreon ads. Valrak and Bricky playing it safe and to some extant, Leutin too.
well bricky didn't play it safe, he wanted it
Bricky is just a useful idiot who will always just say "there's not anything wrong with X" until its something that he likes getting hit.
You bet your ass he'd protest if they retconned Cadia just getting blown up by Blackstone fortresses blowing it up death star style with no resistance
majorshill lives in Australia a woke hellscape u can be jailed for bad speak or have ur channel nuked so of course he had to take this up the ass and not be his typical edgelord self but thats why we call him majorshill
hes always just been a wannabe meme lord shitposter for warhammer and instead of relocating to a place that wouldnt keep fucking w his vids cuz plenty have been nah he goes in Europe holidays and does other stupid shit to burn money
he dug his own hole glad hes bleeding subs now and gets to rot in it considering how much art hes used for vids w no credits for fucking ages and scapegoats his editors for
Majorkill is like a brain tumour. He makes your head hurt, confuses you , and you would give anything for him to just fuck off and not come back
Majorshill sucks. All he does is sell smut and he couldn't even produce and ship out his "holy king" model that is still having customers wait for their pre order over 2 years ago. Glad I pirated that model.
Imo every warhammer content creator that is in favour of the retcons should be named and shamed
Femstodes arent canon. Im not going to accept or acknowledge it.
Good man.
Amen Brother
I never acknowlaged the custode honestly.
Noone should. It's slow death by a slippery slope. Accept one thing, then another, and so on. Boycott all this nonsense full stop.
Dudes in sisters of battle armies .
Space marines with pronouns.
In the grim darkness of the present there is only woke
of course, they are TRANS- Human
Slannesh: "I never wanted this... this has gone too far. All the fun is gone and there is now only darkness. Only wokeness."
Thank you so much for NOT being a GW shill. I love 40k, it's a great game, but GW has always treated their customers with the utmost disdain and contempt. This video has been a breath of fresh air.
They weren't always. I still have a stack of tattered old White Dwarf magazines with articles and advice that would get modern GW drones sacked like "make your own terrain using whatever" or "use non-citadel miniatures as standins if you need to". The local storefront staff were just nerds who loved the hobby too and hosted rowdy games nights. When my dad ordered one of their big Battlefleet Gothic starter fleet deals (they didn't do curated box sets nearly as much back then), the Trollz were already running out some of the kits, so they sent what they could with a (deliberately) crudely-scrawled note and threw in a bunch of extras we *didn't* order while we waited for them to ship us the rest. I'm legitimately sad I didn't keep that note.
Sure, most of this this should be the bare minimum, but GW used to have human beings working for them is my point.
@@Azraiel213 Time to start our own setting, and gatekeep it like mad.
With space blackjack and ultra hookers,@@StarboyXL9?
@@Azraiel213 My rather sizeable Squat army would agree with you
The "lazy" argument rubs me the wrong way
As long as its bad it doesn't matter how much effort is in it.
True but the llack of effort just adds insult to injury brazenly.
Agree.
I'm glad to see the 40K fans standing there ground I hope they start organizing so they can more effectively hit GW in the wallet until they're forced to reverse this change.
But they didn't actually change anything that affects the game? Like, who actually gives a shit?
@@vsGoliath96 It's principle if we let them change this with no push back it's basically saying they can change other stuff and get away with it
@@ScourgeAmaris Okay? But we've already let them do that for years. Remember the Necron changes in 5th edition? We all got upset about Primaris Marines for 8th Edition and yet we all bought them and GW makes more money than ever. Remember when the Squats were all just magically eaten by Tyranids and then suddenly they weren't? Shit, when Rogue Trader first came out, Custodes were weird naked dudes and the Primarchs and Chaos didn't exist! These were all things that were added or changed as time went on.
Femstodes are not the hill to die on. They don't break the lore and people getting this ass mad about it just end up looking like idiots who shouldn't be taken seriously.
@@vsGoliath96 Well the reason this one might work is the slippery slope and political nature of this. Black rock and vanguard both own massive stocks in GW these people are well known shareholders who push their political agenda in games all the time. This was probably why for the change, we can excuse the other changes for being just straight up terrible lore changes but not really malicious. This one has a possible person pulling the strings from behind and perhaps a huge political agenda trying to push DEI in Warhammer. Not just that but GW is straight up pretending this wasn't a change and saying they always existed which is just plain wrong, they are trying to pull a fast one on the fans and are rightfully getting called out for it.
@@ScourgeAmaris Hey man, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Scroll down a bit because this may be shocking...
Adding women to something in a way that doesn't break the lore is not a political agenda and it's kind of ridiculous to think it is. They make up 50% of the population of the planet.
Im shocked a few 40k creators said that the lore is correct and that female custodes were always around and the backlash is uncalled for. I suspect they are on the take or woke sjws....either way it's disheartening.
I think that's the worse part, it comes from the ones you less expected it
@@mado-wh4jv True. I have been significantly disappointed on that front.
They have been trained to lie for their political causes.
It's probably because there was no solid reason given as to why it was males only beyond the Emperor saying so, unlike the Astartes who must be male in order to be genetically compatible with the gene-seed zygote
Nah. They've mostly been woke in all the small places they can. Look at their response to Floyd.
I unsubscribed to all the big warhammer youtubers, because they basically said and did the exact same thing they are all in for femcustodies mommy muscle retcone, I've been asking them that question also what would make the femcustod special, the only answer they gave me is "because they're women"
Oh so they're a weaker specimen but better than the best combat killing machines that men have been and always will be..
I'm going to start putting tu-tus on my custodes now... All they are good for with the new codex drop is getting pounded
@@sgthunt118 femstodes >>> goldies get nerfed
hmmmmm?.....
40k was never going to survive contact with the normies. We need to take our beloved franchises and protect them ourselves. We cannot reason with these people.
Fire up the 3d printer, dig out the old lore books and let's make this happen.
I don't think this isn't being caused by normies. It's being done by motivated political actors inside of the company.
@@Sluhrmztourist employees who are bad actors, Vanguard and BlackRock also own a significant portion of GW.
@@Sluhrmz Actually it's probably ESG point hunting at much as anything else :/
@@malicant123 I agree. Part of that involves installing the the people I'm talking about in DEI positions after receiving ESG funds.
@@Sluhrmz All recent hires where I work have been DEI motivated. We even have an EDI officer where I am in the IT section of an insurance company. He's an utter fruitcake.
Am not surprised by Bricky or Luetin. Disappointed, but not surprised
Not that Games Workshop will care, but they are about to find out that activists don't actually buy the products that they cry about. This is where Black Rock and Vanguard come in
People who say "Who cares" are not fencesitting, they have actively chosen to accept this and they are trying to mitigate or deflect the anger of the people who are opposed to it.
No that's not the case we not trying deflect anger we just believe your making this out to bigger then it needs to be and think unrealistic anger is not needed. It changes so vary little that it really doesn't matter. Female custodes are within reason and not really all that outlandish.
You not really mad at the decision, your mad because something changed. You wanna stagnant ip.
when you see Blackrock and Vanguard own portions of GW it makes sense
I've only just heard about them as i normally stay away from all of that stuff, but what are they all about?
@@clearegorgon7297 ever see a movie or show where there is a looming evil shadow org manipulating everything? our world theres more than 1...
@@clearegorgon7297 shadow organizations that push world gov, wars, woke bs and just about every other type of evil
@@clearegorgon7297 they're evil shadow organizations thats ruin everything basically
@@clearegorgon7297they are multi billion dollar investment companies that have publicly stated their desire to enforce their particular ideology by forcing other companies to do what they want if they want to get the investment money.
Outside of pop culture, Blackrock and Vanguard have been buying up land and property at ridiculous mark ups to force regular buyers out of the housing market.
Belisarius Cawl and his consequences have been a disaster to the setting. "Oh, just have Cawl, magic it into existence and it's all good!"
Bunch of wankers.
Luetin is a hypocrite for saying "if you want consistency, this isn't the hobby for you" considering he spends hundreds of hours trying to find consistencies in 40K lore and adressing what is canon and what is not.
I was thinking that too. Its baffling.
I get it when we're talking about minor points like the physics of a perpetual, the use of time travel, or the functioning of the warp; stuff that they really can mess with and show in all different directions, but other things are more bedrock and to undermine them makes everything shaky.
So his "none of this really matters," take is insane to me. His whole channel is lore from different franchises. That's gone if none of it matters. Everything he does and had ever done says it all matters a lot.
@@peterc3262 It's tacit admission that he doesn't really give a fuck and is a shill.
So...yeah.
I hated his response. Considering what he does, you'd think it would matter more to him. I think that's him trying not to take a side in order to appear neutral.
@@uruk_bye1232 bro his entire response was almost the same as GW.
"Well i'm a father so why would i care, if you don't like it this isn't the hobby for you"
dude showed his true colours right than and there.
@@ishitrealbad3039 I took that as sign that he has failed to remember where his income comes from. If 40k fans start leaving because of bad lore making the setting unattractive then how does he expect his channel to survive? He is bitting the hand that feeds him and his family unless his wife makes insane income or he is doing something quiet on the side.
In the dimly lit hallway of the cobra-class destroyer. Calladayce Taurovalia Kesh , the custodian, moved with purpose. Her mop, worn and frayed, was more than a cleaning tool-it was her partner in an unspoken dance. The floor, marred by countless footsteps and blood, awaited its nightly transformation. But tonight, Kesh had other plans. She wasn’t merely here to sweep away dust and grime; She was here to bear witness to a future where GW digs their own grave!
All those on the fence are now jumping into 3d Printing going brrrrr
The Streisand Effect.
So that's how you spell Streisand.😊
We found the heresy, now we put it in front of the heavy flamers.
We the fandom are the inquisiton now, and this is the taint of chaos.
Hey man I discovered you because of this debacle. Keep of the good work man! I will always love 40k but im personally done. I had big plans for making a pure scion army. I own 2 armies and 94 black library books. I read probably three new books on average a month and for a few years now i have been going heavy on 40k stuff. No more. Ill spend my money on other hobbies. I own a total of 428 books currently. There is plenty of fantastic sci fi out and plenty of other hobbies I can occupy my time with. I have a buddy who is big into 3d printing whos offering everyone in game store group that he will 3d print minis for cost of materials. The only thing they have of value is the setting. Many of us only buy minis and the books to support them.
Lovecraft is public domain, his cat's name can't be retconned, and the kitty sorts out tourists.
@@balazsvarga1823 I love that about Howard.
I left the hobby a while ago and it was only a matter of time before GW bent the knee as if their crummy business practices weren't enough. Everything the woke touches turns to shit and we'll have to resort to gatekeeping, homebrewing and 3D printing to the extreme. When 40k becomes irrelevant we will be the ones to say "you will not be missed"
Thing is the Woke have adopted the Vaush dEbAtE strategy. Challenge you to a debate, don't let the other talk, insult them after the "debate", declare victory over all.
remember, all that fence sitting acomplishes is a crooked spine and an ass full of splinters
I dunno, I kinda smelt it in the books for about the last quarter of the HH, especially the more recent Solar War and End and Death. They kinda slide it in in small ways when they have a chance.
It wasn't the Emperor that made marines, it was a strong, empowered woman no one has ever heard of called Erda.
Everything the Emps has, he stole (coloniser narrative). That can be fine if it's only one take on events or second hand knowledge that the fanbase can debate in both directions, but it isnt. That's now canon. The knowledge to do anything genetic was stolen.
All the SMs and custodes seem to have rich, dark skin in their descriptions now, otherwise theyre not described.
The women who always seem to be the captains on the ships (eye roll every time- gimme one male ship captain who isnt shit) are always teaching the immortal marines who are four times their age how to be braver or stronger or wiser.
For me it was just the total and in my opinion malicious deconstruction of the emperors myth.
I think it has taken much more from the setting, rather than adding to it. Making everything relativ or overly complex/detailed is not always a good thing.
But hey, a majority seems to like it.
The Emperor was a woman which is why she was passive agressive and spiteful towards her children and why everything fell apart because Single Mother problems brought to a galactic level.
@@Henne55555ful The majority also watch Marvel. That's enough said about their capacity to understand mythos and narrative.
5:27 I unsubscribed from his channel
Same. It won’t matter in the long run because of the people who will just say it doesn’t matter cause he is likable and funny and keep supporting him, but whatever. He is a talented entertainer.
Even my mum heard about it and asked me about it, she doesn't even use social media lmao
Luetin has no spine.
Valrak and Majorkill are spineless aswell they seem like sheep accepting BS rather than having their own opinion.
he was the first to betray Arch
No just not man babies
@@xburninginwaterx7959Genestealer detected.
He is a normie. The issue is sadly a ton of normies have come into the hobby. This is what happens.
Abandon GW not the hobby. Pirate the books and codex's, 3D print minis or buy 3rd party. Don't give GW another dime and watch them fall.
That illegal and carries the fine that would bankrupt you for the rest of your life the cost of miniatures does not even come close to fine you would be incurring much less the expense of the lawyer's. Don't do it man.
Comment for the algorithm gods.
Also - I agree. Even if worst comes to worst, I don't need Games Workshop to play Warhammer - but they certainly need an audience to continue holding the rights to make Warhammer products.
See this is how I deal with canon for other IPs as well. Star Trek, Star Wars, Xmen, Spiderman. It just ended at the woke point somewhere around 2014/15. I say, "yeah, these things were great, but they got corrupted and died. Watch the first movies and read these books. They're great, but then they fall off a cliff."
Even in older Spiderman the Spiderverse just doesn't exist to me. It's a shit add on from where they couldn't think of new stories.
It's just sad because none of these IPs were anywhere near a conclusion if they'd just not used them as vehicles for divisive politics, or undermined their own lore for divisive modern dayisms.
The problem with Gate Keeping is that it is not very effective if the IP holders don't side with their fans. As long as the IP holders hold the door wide open for tourists to come and destroy the franchise, there's not much we can do other than close our wallets and boycott.
I have an issue with gatekeeping, i understand the fandoms want to defend their hobby from actually problematic people, but the problem is that it becomes very hard for newcommers to join. I think if you gatekeep, you should be carefull about how you bring your oppinions out
Still better than being passive though.
If the king commands the gates to open and let anyone in, the the subjects will leave and refuse to pay taxes.
There is one other thing that we as fans can do and that is create our own content with the IP. We need to show what 40k is at its core even if GW refuses to do so. We have all long since known that GW doesn't do outside media very well what with youtube videos like Astartes, Lord Inquisitor, and even TTS all being wildly popular ways that people have gotten into the lore. It's all because the fans took the IP and made it into what it could and should be instead of whatever diversity hire DEI advisor demanded what the IP should be.
Exactly. We have to bankrupt GW and get them to sell the rights.
I reckon this has something to do with Henry Cavil's production of Amazon's 40K adaptation. They all know Henry respects the lore and loves the hobby so they made this announcement to tie his hands
For sure, everyone thought Amazon was going to be the main source injecting dei/wokeism, but no. It's gw itself
Nope this isn't about him. Also, Cavill's a proven GW boy, (even calling the Emperor Neoth at some post) he is not the saviour the 40k nerds think he is, just because he's famous, buff, handsome and talks Warhammer..
One page rules and 3D printer go buurrrrrr
This comment is originally in Spanish, sorry for any grammatical error.
Good morning community: the reason for this comment is to "report" if that is what one of the main ambassadors of Spanish-speaking Games Workshop could be called.
First I want to put in context that this news (female custodians) was leaked by The Voice of Horus (Voz de Horus) at a global level (chapter master Valrak confirms it in his video), the Voice of Horus continually releases a podcast announcing the news both for the rules and also talking about the custodes, which they do in a mocking way trying to create discord among those of us who do not think that this retcon was a good idea. When I finished listening to that podcast, I went to give my respectful opinion in the comments box, letting it be known that I did not agree with their opinion and that I also thought it was in very bad taste that being one of the main Spanish-speaking ambassadors of Warhammer They will not take the division of the community seriously but rather the opposite by promoting it, following which they delete not only my comment, but also those of others who do not think the same and also restrict comments on their IVoox podcast.
We all know what happens when a community is divided and it is unfortunate that the same ambassadors are the ones who promote it. I just hope I don't see a star wars in warhammer 40k.
Thank you in advance community for taking the time to read and I hope I have not made you uncomfortable.
I’m so glad we at least have a lot of the Spanish speaking members with us!! That’s awesome!
The funny thing is. If they want fem-Custodes they could have made a better justification than “they always exist”
They could have said that fem-Custodes are a new thing. like “since the Custodes join the indomitus crusade, the Custodes now recruit from both Terran noble sons and daughters to replenish losses and double their numbers”
Still be a bad idea to make female Custodes. But it would have at least been the least insulting way to do it.
Yeah, they did it in the most insulting way possible. Next up, Abaddon will have always been a misunderstood girl. They can't even make a story about Cawl inventing new geneseed amd sticking it in a few battlesisters for science.
It just doesn't even make sense in any story. Yours is better than theirs but even then, for a woman to be custodes is for them to genetically alter her into being a man. So all custodes are potentionally trans. Great.
But also why use women when you would need them to make more Terran nobles?
@@DrTesseract This.
put a chick in it and make it lame "south park 2024"
A bunch of guys who depend on GW are on their side(who guessed, right?). They win certain benefits to be, and they have a career because of that. Now the tourists are crazy using these examples on that are on their side... When 40k becomes Age of Sigmar, even these ones will start dropping.
Also, please note all the TH-camrs 40k who say “I don’t have a problem with it and are completely fine with it.”
Because every TH-camr that said this is OK , i’ve of unsubscribed from
Because there is no way these guys don’t know this
changes for ideological purposes, and so they can make the female space marines down the line
Sadly, Majorkill who I’ve been subscribed to for a long time
Chapter Master Valrak the guy that I originally heard this from
and I preemptively unsubscribe to others like
Sandman of Terra and I know he’s gonna be OK with it because he streams with a British Indian guy who says I would like female space marines, and everyone in the chat said no
WesHammer
but I have subscribed to new channels like this one
i dipped on majorkill after that inaccurate hitpiece on arch he made, he picked a side forever ago
Did Weshammer say anything about it? I haven't heard anything from him about it yet.
I do have a problem with the retcons, because it degrades a good hobby. its just getting worse and worse
This is the death blow for it I know a few people including me that out right canceled orders for models are books. Hope it was worth it GW you killed the golden goose.
With this happen I was right that I subbed to you, Arch and Pontius.
I’ll be supporting Asmogan, Arch and Gamza at this point. Thank you very much.
Looking at their stock price, it's been falling by 1% since the announcement. While this drop isn't necessarily caused by this change alone, it's most likely caused by the Custodes codex being bad, Tau pre-orders not being a thing, no stock on anything ever, etc.
Nah bro, Brickies videos are shit, he does the TTS thing of boiling down the lore to such a degree that it becomes palatable for Marvel fans and fills it shitty memes.
His videos do so much damage to the integrity of the lore that I doubt that he has any love for warhammer outside of its profitability.
At least with TTS it was done for comedic effect. Bricky doesn't even have that excuse.
So, I think the way this can be salvaged is that GW release a statement saying that they are not full custodes, but rather human auxiliaries that bare modified versions of Custodian power armor and weaponry in combat and training drills similar to how Inquisitors can get access to modified tactical dreadnought armor. And outside of combat, they essentially act as the silent hand of the Custodes within the Senate Imperialis and the other apparatuses of Imperial Bureaucracy keeping their master's appraised of the comings and goings of the wider galaxy.
God... Luetin09 was the one who introduced me into the WH40K books...
Hell. Even asmongold stands with us
Can't wait for the people who say "It's not important why do you care?" to go around and look for videos like this to tell you that.
If it makes you feel better Asmo, even in Luetins comments section, there is a lot of push back from his audience. Just cause he may be wanting to stay neutral and ignore this, dose not mean his audience does.
They are bringing down the heroic ideal, something so fundamental to this universe. Women cannot slay the mythical beast, the dragon, the minotaur etc. The realm of physical heroes is reserved for elitest of gigachads. No normal man and no woman has a space there. We want to admire these heroes not identify as them
I've never really been a big fan of Warhammer, I've watched some gameplay here and there but know very minimum about the lore, but I just wanted to take a moment to share my condolences.
Y'all deserve better, and I hope everyone upset at this unneeded retcon speaks with their wallet.
Hold em accountable.
Oh and for those saying it isn’t a big deal , if it’s not a big deal than why do it at all ? Obviously some people think it’s a very big deal and it isn’t just those against the lore retcons and the lies to justify it.
Orks and fantasy O&G- greenskins in general, were given a large retcon; they were changed from a more traditional tribal race of peoples to what we know them as now: fungus. This is an example of a large retcon of their entire concept with the crucial difference that it was made with the intention of making them BETTER and more fit for the setting. This is the opposite to the approach the woke take.
I knew sticking with Arch was the correct choice. Most "influencers" kept and keep quiet about GW stupid decisions. But saying nothing ro this shitshow or even defending it, is another level of cowardice...
the funniest thing is seeing that finally this isnt just 10 guys complaining on reddit, 70% of comments on any GW tweet now is about how they don't support this and the people they're trying to label as "grifters labeling stuff as woke" or "a small right wing part of the community" are very obviously the actual community
I’m not a battltech guy but didn’t battletech get rotted out from the inside?
Yarp.
The people running forums have been banning people from any discussion they don't like about changes they are pushing.
Battletech also has a noted anti-corporate scene. Razorfist has a good video on how one can support Battletech without supporting Catalyst who owns the IP.
I really just hate this entire situation. The past two weeks have not been a fun one for me. The only silver lining and slight amusement I've gotten is seeing one random person who said the Fallout show (that further ruined the already butchered lore) was great and they "clearly loved the source material" who was also upset by femstodes because it ruins the lore. The irony amused me, but GW selling out and my last bastion going woke wasn't really worth the slight chuckle I got from that.
I know what you mean. As much as I expected it to happen someday (AoS, Old World and some 40k storys were already on that trajectory with swaps, new femal inserts and diversity), I still find myself to be a tiny bit devestated. Thought I was prepared and wouldn,t care.
Even after Star Wars, Star Trek etc., a nerds pathetic heart still bleeds lol.
I’m almost a hundred percent sure most of Bricky’s audience have a muscle mommy thing so course they’d be okay with it 😂
I am surprised Bricky doesn't want Blood Angel/Space Wolf yaoi.
@@balazsvarga1823 Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he does.
As a reminder Luetin was one of the ones invited to the Dawn of War 3 stuff, and didnt have any criticisms of it. He sold out a long time ago. And Majorkill literally said he doesnt care if they make female space marines.
As for the rest of it, fire up those printers. Theres plenty of alternative models and stls that are direct copies of gw models.
No major kill never said that. It's a blatantly a lie. As a reminder major kill said he did not like female spacemerines because they defeat the point of having a female character. He realty said he go with female custodes so long there lore as they had lore.
@@JasonKing-b1u he made a video a while ago about his thoughts on female space marines. To put it simply, he said he doesn't care about female space marines one way or the other because sisters of battle are cooler than marines.
He doesn't care.
That illegal
Bricky was the main reason i got back into the hobby. And adeptus ridiculous is one of my favorite podcasts to listen to well painting, but i can't say im surprised he has that opinion. Also, you mentioned about not engaging in 9th edition, i wasn't in the hobby during ninth did something happen? As ninth was the edition was what I was going back to
This argument has exposed many 40k creators I used to follow...
I miss the 90's..
When GW tweeted that women have always been a part of the Custodes without citation, then the lore is of no concern to them, and that's not good.
I checked out with the lore when Primaris was written in.
Now l just laugh as this was expected.
Shareholders will be pissed.
I guarantee you that some of these content creators are just afraid of losing their access to GW.
It would take a significant fan joint movement in not buying new products, but the issue is people won't.
They would only take it seriously if sales dropped off a cliff
Shills will invest extra money to try and offset our leaving.
Tourists will buy more models to own the chuds
I'm not leaving the hobby,but I am changing how I spend money within the hobby. I'm just gonna buy second hand models and non GW paint,also considering getting a 3D printer.
Games Workshop think they're Disney. They keep this nonsense up they'll need to learn how to file bankruptcy. You do not piss off the customer base of a niche hobby
Scary thing is that it's pretty public now how bad things are at Disney. Star Wars has lost billions in value. Marvel is dying. Their movies are bombing. It got so bad they almost voted out the CEO. It's a clear dumpster fire.
How can anyone look at modern Disney and say, yes this what we want to emulate.
@@nickchavez720 And if an eighty year old company with near limitless money can be brought to the desperate state it is in, imagine a company a quarter of the size with almost half the time in existence.
Not leaving the hobby but GW isnt getting any more of my money.
I won't be missed. Bye, GW.
#Iwontbemissed
Correct, you won’t be. Toodles 🎉
I look forward when their new audience gives GW foodstamps and empty kfc buckets!
@@glock986 such tolerance, such diversity.
Stay in the game bro :v simply just boycott GW this time and boycott the woke shit too
@linhnghiem943 I'm keeping and playing what I have. Just no more. A boycott will not save it. Not anytime soon. If it fixes itself, maybe I'll be back, until then I'll paint other minis.
@5:40 honestly, as much as this guy sucks, at least he is straight-up and honest about this. We all know this is exactly true and what they want to do, but then we have all these fence-sitters and deniers who go along with it, pretend otherwise, and essentially gaslight people. It’s actually refreshing to see the enemy being open about things.
This is why after SW I only care about lore made by dead men.
Edit: nah. Leave and burn it on the way out. It is a corporate property made by living people that hate you. They wont change. This isn't a terrible Dune movie that I dont care about because I have the book. This never ends unless they make it so
Boycott GW
I thought the leftist were in to cancel culture
There IS not need to call for boycott this time they Will lose for ever the more die-hard fans, and we wont return
I think you’re slightly unfair to Luetin, he did point out some arguments for and against. I think he has *some* point about the nature of 40k lore, but I do also believe in a fundamentally consistent foundation.
I staunchly oppose female Custodes and Astartes.
Agree
Sigmarxism must be having a field day with this news...
I am no longer excited for the Space Marine 2 game.
It likely has the denúvó mal ware in it.
Hopefully it'll be OK. It started development looooong before this.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.
SpaceShark sends his regards.
henlo, my sharky fren
I bailed out of the Star Wars fandom for good once Disney got a hold of the setting, de-canonized the existing lore (the Expanded Universe) and began to re-create the Galaxy Far, Far Away in it's own unholy image...
For the past 2 or 3 years I've been tentatively exploring 40K, reading the Black Library books and some of the game manuals like Wrath and Glory (I'm more of an old school RPG gamer rather than a wargamer), and I don't think I have it in me to quit *another* fandom that I've taken a liking to.
I've sworn off GW tbh. I know you said not to leave the hobby, but man, after this, its difficult to summon the willpower to care about he setting in general.
I know 100% how you feel.
@@Ragehaven thank you
It's difficult to feel excited about something when it's being controlled by people who clearly don't care about it. Eventually it will correct itself. Look at Disnsy, wizards of the coast, and others. All of them are struggling. It's not a question of are they going to fall. Its question of how much damage they are going to do.
@@nickchavez720 100%