@@razi_manthat isn't what "voices" means from a musical standpoint, smartass. there are three voices: bassline, harmony, and kick drum. yes, two are built from the same waveform. that doesn't make them the same voice in the _composition_ you're a classic example of knowing just enough to be dangerous. "buT tHey'Re ThE saMe wAvE" lol
I saw this a while ago but only recently viewed it in furnace. I didn't realize how important of a part the quick little arpeggios were in the bassline. I'm kinda new to this whole "music theory" thing. Sick beats!
I think you meant that people don't have to study music theory to be able to understand music because otherwise it's just nonsense. How could I mean "it's not necessary to avoid learning theories." as if it is assumed that music theory is something which is necessary to avoid. Perhaps you are imagining that music theory is commonly viewed as obstructive to the progression of your understanding of the medium. Although that's not an opinion I've heard or read personally myself, it remains the only logical conclusion I can draw from your attempt to understand my initial statement or original post as a warning that it is important for the betterment of your understanding and appreciation of music, overall, to avoid musical theory, is in fact "fine without it" leaves the reader to guess whether "it" is a reference to my statement of required avoidance of formal education in the field or the field of music theory itself. With the assumed required avoidance of music theory, negated by you by the inclusion of the word "but" and the implied group of like minded individuals ("some of us") rejected my assertion of enforced music theory avoidance. So in conclusion I think you were making a retort to my statement that music theory "should" be avoided and interpreting that as "must" be avoided and decided that your musical education and continued development is not in fact harmed by exposure to musical theory, as you implied, that that is what you interpreted my statement to mean. Which is a pretty dense statement for about 23 words, some abbreviated and no grammar whatsoever. To be more clear, you could have said that you found musical theory helpful, yourself, rather than imply I was suggesting musical theory is absolutely a waste of time in completely inflexible terms. Whereas my actual comment "There is no such thing as music theory. Avoid music theory." Is demonstrably incorrect as music theory has been proven to exist by the two words being put beside one another and a university course being available. To avoid something which does not exist is obviously impossible, but to deny the existence of it, is to be caught by surprise and unaware of it's effects. So you must avoid music theory because it's not really proven to have a positive affect. But you may engage in music theory if you decide to do so, but my advice would be that is would unlikely prove useful.
you and tildearrow are both gods, tildearrow for making a tracker able to make songs with tons of sound chips & having the ability to combine them both into a song, and you for utilizing those chips with your amazing talented compositions & sound design. great songs as always and keep it up with these banger tunes!
For the love of all that is holy, somebody PLEASE make a tracker using this chip similar to Famitracker or Deflemask! It's too cool of a chip to be left out from the scene! (Preferably compatible from Windows 95 to 11) There'd be a LOT more gems like this maestro's!
@FΛDE downloaded it. Absolutely in LOVE with it! Just wish it could export playable ROMs like Deflemask. The Binary data is great and all, but I have almost no programming experience and I don't have time for that kind of stuff.
Imagine walking up to a Pac-Man arcade machine that had been fked with and this glorious thing was coming out of it - with a little Pac-Man dancing with the ghosts animation 👻
The SID is a synthesizer chip, while this one is a wavetable one. Wavetables allow you to make custom waveforms, but can start aliasing when you go to low notes. A synthesizer can only make a set amount of waves, but has filters, oscillator sync, and stuff. EDIT: Noway F∆DE hearted comment (nvm it gets deleted when you edit)
@@NORAMA01 Waves on the WSG are strictly 32 steps long, while the N163 allows lengths that depend on how many voices are used. The N163 is basically a C15 but heavily budget and energy-golfed, and also with a time-division multiplexer like the YM2612 and YM2413/VRC7 have.
The Namco 3-voice WSG is ROM-based, specifically 256 bytes, meaning all the waves are hardcoded and it's more or less a ROMpler at least in the arcade games.
![[TAS] NES Rockman CX by CUI in 29:38.02](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ijso45ElHNw/mqdefault.jpg)
ngl i should make a ytpmv outta this
damn, i got the pin, I'll start it on december cuz I have things to do for november
count me in on watching it
i would like to apologize, i have moved on to other ytpmv projects and forgot about me sayng this. I don't think i'll be finishing this
@@SPCooki34NOOOOOOOO
ill do it
Wait, isn't this the Pac-Man soundchip? It's very impressive how you snuck in like, three ''voices'' in that top channel.
Yep! I’m not doing much here, just applying basic chiptune techniques to a chip that has never seen them
What do you mean? Only 2 different waveforms are being used. The supposed "third" voice is literally the bass waveform being played at a higher pitch.
@@razi_man then you could argue that its just one voice, seeing as though the high-pitch arpeggio is just the same waveform as the bass.
oh hold on the kick is a square wave...
@@razi_manthat isn't what "voices" means from a musical standpoint, smartass. there are three voices: bassline, harmony, and kick drum. yes, two are built from the same waveform. that doesn't make them the same voice in the _composition_
you're a classic example of knowing just enough to be dangerous. "buT tHey'Re ThE saMe wAvE" lol
BANGER! :D
Perfect for Pac-Man's 42nd Anniversary. :)
I saw this a while ago but only recently viewed it in furnace. I didn't realize how important of a part the quick little arpeggios were in the bassline. I'm kinda new to this whole "music theory" thing. Sick beats!
There is no such thing as music theory. Avoid music theory.
@@iwanttocomplain if mean u dont have to avoid music theory if u want to, but some of us (like me) do fine without it
@@gameknight.thump1 I like how that sentence is unintelligible from any angle.
@@iwanttocomplain lmao
I think you meant that people don't have to study music theory to be able to understand music because otherwise it's just nonsense.
How could I mean "it's not necessary to avoid learning theories." as if it is assumed that music theory is something which is necessary to avoid. Perhaps you are imagining that music theory is commonly viewed as obstructive to the progression of your understanding of the medium. Although that's not an opinion I've heard or read personally myself, it remains the only logical conclusion I can draw from your attempt to understand my initial statement or original post as a warning that it is important for the betterment of your understanding and appreciation of music, overall, to avoid musical theory, is in fact "fine without it" leaves the reader to guess whether "it" is a reference to my statement of required avoidance of formal education in the field or the field of music theory itself. With the assumed required avoidance of music theory, negated by you by the inclusion of the word "but" and the implied group of like minded individuals ("some of us") rejected my assertion of enforced music theory avoidance.
So in conclusion I think you were making a retort to my statement that music theory "should" be avoided and interpreting that as "must" be avoided and decided that your musical education and continued development is not in fact harmed by exposure to musical theory, as you implied, that that is what you interpreted my statement to mean.
Which is a pretty dense statement for about 23 words, some abbreviated and no grammar whatsoever.
To be more clear, you could have said that you found musical theory helpful, yourself, rather than imply I was suggesting musical theory is absolutely a waste of time in completely inflexible terms.
Whereas my actual comment "There is no such thing as music theory. Avoid music theory." Is demonstrably incorrect as music theory has been proven to exist by the two words being put beside one another and a university course being available.
To avoid something which does not exist is obviously impossible, but to deny the existence of it, is to be caught by surprise and unaware of it's effects.
So you must avoid music theory because it's not really proven to have a positive affect. But you may engage in music theory if you decide to do so, but my advice would be that is would unlikely prove useful.
(( meanwhile in a parallel universe where jeroen tel composed the soundtrack for pacman ))
Pac-man sounds intensify
this is fucking cool
WHAAAAT NO WAY?? I've wanted songs like this on the Namco WSG for years!
I’m happy I filled that hole in your life
you and tildearrow are both gods, tildearrow for making a tracker able to make songs with tons of sound chips & having the ability to combine them both into a song, and you for utilizing those chips with your amazing talented compositions & sound design. great songs as always and keep it up with these banger tunes!
Where can I find such tracker
@@bl4z3pupzNow it's called Furnace Tracker. 🔥🔥🔥
I want to make a tune on the Commander x16.
@@iwanttocomplain You can go to furnace tracker.
@@iwanttocomplain furnace supports both the VERA and OPM used by the x16, and there's also a tracker made for the x16 called dreamtracker
Alright, our very first official Namco WSG tune on Furnace!😄🤩😎👌
Yep! It’s a jankfest
This dude is everywhere.
@@monsia202 he also uses the same set of emojis in the same order almost all the time
@@Mizu2023 he does? Cool... I guess:/
@@monsia202it's a right of passage as a chiptunist for him to comment o your song at this point lol
never thought i would hear something like this from the namco WSG.
The furnace tracker devs are literal chiptune gods.
fade is one of the furnace devs???? :O
@@RED40HOURS No
@@nicco1690 o
It's stuff like like this which pushes others to up their game. Absolute banger!
this is pretty impressive for a wavetable chip
this is amazing man, gotta add this to my offline playlist, is there a download link or something?
while i'm planning to cover this, and assuming you made this on furnace--how do you pull off the 2-note arp without flooding your instruments window??
Also, I am making an AY-3-8910 cover of this song. It's still a W.I.P though.
Just hopefully it turns out well :)
I haven't commented on your most popular song, what's wrong with me?
also covering this
For the love of all that is holy, somebody PLEASE make a tracker using this chip similar to Famitracker or Deflemask! It's too cool of a chip to be left out from the scene! (Preferably compatible from Windows 95 to 11) There'd be a LOT more gems like this maestro's!
It’s in Furnace which runs fine on 7
@FΛDE downloaded it. Absolutely in LOVE with it! Just wish it could export playable ROMs like Deflemask. The Binary data is great and all, but I have almost no programming experience and I don't have time for that kind of stuff.
module?
it's crazy how the namco has a stepped sawtooth channel having more steps than the vrc6 sawtooth.
what
@@pyra9345 once you get into chiptune you'll get it...
you're definitely talented 😎
Thanks!
I felt real jealousy when a chord change happened at precisely 00:33.
Oh shit I’m late for the second birthday… oopsie
yooo!!! this is super good! crazy how nice this chip sounds compared to the little games it was used in previously
Not even a few days after it came out and you make this banger on the Namco WSG
I’m a pioneer
@@FLDE or a time traveller… or a COMMUNIST!
@@LunaOfTheStarsMusic blyat
@@LunaOfTheStarsMusic blyat
Imagine walking up to a Pac-Man arcade machine that had been fked with and this glorious thing was coming out of it - with a little Pac-Man dancing with the ghosts animation 👻
This could have maybe happened if this flde person gave us a song module.
tim follin is that you?
Is there a FUR for this
It looks like Pacman
“YO YO YO WHAT IT IS MOTHERFU-“
I've been obsessed with these sounds ever since I've heard them and I'm very curious how you made this :0
IVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SONGS ON NAMCO WSG SOUNDCHIP HOW DID YOU EVEN DO THIS
no .fur file?
pacman 2 looking crazy
Look, look
@@nic0vide0,
Oh no, he’s hot.
Does this kind of behave like a SID Chip?
The SID is a synthesizer chip, while this one is a wavetable one.
Wavetables allow you to make custom waveforms, but can start aliasing when you go to low notes.
A synthesizer can only make a set amount of waves, but has filters, oscillator sync, and stuff.
EDIT: Noway F∆DE hearted comment (nvm it gets deleted when you edit)
The symbolic sounds are being pushed up into music in an exciting way here, and the interaction with memories is a nice thing. Absolute ear happiness.
Ala
happy first birthday of the first namco wsg tune ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Furnace is powerful
how do I download this instrument?
So there's a namco wsg tracker? Can you make custom wave forms?
It's Furnace Tracker, and you could.
The SID of the arcade world
pac man having a party. amazing
Is there no download link?
i like how this fits 6 instruments into 3 channels
nice WSG original!
just wow 🧡
Come to Brazil
Wow that chips was so ahead of its time!
Thx 4 da ♥️
Great song
Talk about bangers! 🔥
Same to you! I really adore your AYM stuff
That's like... what, 3 whole instruments being relayed into just the first channel?
2.
The Pac-man like sound is still using the bass wave but in a higher pitch.
@@razi_man There is actually 3, there is the square and a sine in the kick, and then there is the Pac-man like instrument.
@@sweatynoodle I wonder how I didn't notice that.
I noticed the square full stop but I actually had to search each frame to look at the sine.
Pretty impressive using a normal wave, instead of noise for a snare!
bro this video has 666 likes
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isnt this the n163
no but is it the n163
i was wrong it is not
@@NORAMA01 N163 but super jank and it only has three channels and you can only read waves from a 256 byte ROM and it’s made entirely from 74xx chips
@@FLDE does it share all the weird quirks of N163
@@NORAMA01 Waves on the WSG are strictly 32 steps long, while the N163 allows lengths that depend on how many voices are used. The N163 is basically a C15 but heavily budget and energy-golfed, and also with a time-division multiplexer like the YM2612 and YM2413/VRC7 have.
Sweet tune. Back to FADE, huh?
Almost all of thoses waveforms came from Pac-man you know
The Namco 3-voice WSG is ROM-based, specifically 256 bytes, meaning all the waves are hardcoded and it's more or less a ROMpler at least in the arcade games.