Discussing My Least Favorite Disc Golf Discs/What Should You Look for in Discs?? | Beginner Tips
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- There are no less than 500 disc options out there when you count just molds alone, but when plastic gets thrown into the mix....yikes. With so many options available, it's nearly impossible to like all of the discs out there. Finding which ones work for you and knowing which ones you dislike is huge to finding success in your game. In today's video, I might make some enemies, but I want to dive into some of my least favorite discs as well as explain to you why I dislike them to help you possibly flesh out some ideas on why you have molds/plastics you don't like! You'll have to watch to find out!!
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You seemed like a nice guy… until you started talking about the berg. You now have my subscription and undying resentment. Keep up the good videos.
Make a video where you play a round with discs you don't like and then a round with your favorite discs to truly see if it really is the archer not the arrows. 😊
I'm a zone and buzzz lover. I've got 2 zones and 3 buzzzes in my bag. So you've definitely lost me after this one.
No for real now, your content still is some of my favorite disc golf related stuff here on TH-cam. Also nobody else here has taught me nearly as much as you did over the years. So thanks for everything, Robbie.
Sending you lots of love to counteract all the hate you may get ❤😉
As I start heading towards MA50, hand feel is trumping brand loyalty for me. And my play is improving because of it.
I personally enjoy Classic Wardens and Challenger OS, damn good putters and for forehand approach.
Hand feel is the number 1 confidence booster for me, especially plastic. I know I’m gonna get some hate but I was looking around the disc golf shop and said “oh look a passion, people really like these” as soon as I put it in my hand I said “nope” 😂
For me it's the Aviar. I had one as my first putter for years. The first time I tried a different mold I realized exactly how much I didn't like it. The rounded inside edge was super uncomfortable for me.
For me the sharp edge from nose part to the actual rim is what I do not like, I can use the mold though okay just there are better and worse putters out there.
@terry, yeah I had one for years and years too. If you hate the rounded inside, don’t ever buy a Spin, I’ll save you the time.
The Nova. I think it came down to rim depth. On a fluke, I grabbed a Berg off the shelf like “what’s the fuss all about?” and instantly fell in love. I think for me it’s about being able to throw any disc in my bag on both forehand and backhand lines and the Nova just didn’t fit. Such a pretty flying disc though!
I think you are touching on something I tell young guitar players. It’s more important to have an instrument that fits you and feels right vs what you’re seeing others play.
Robbie NOOOOOO!!! Man I love the Berg. But to each his own!! Thanks for the fun video!
When I started.... I figured it was all about brand loyalty. Carried a full Innova bag. I still hate it secretly when I find something more suitable for me. But I'm still searching. Great video.
The video that needed to be made! Thank jou for your courage, Robbie.
I love this video. I think it’s why a manufacturer will have multiple of a really similar flight pattern of disc - take Innova’s Rat and Toro - because sometimes you just don’t like the way one works.
Or the way there are manufacturer families where you can choose multiple that are super similar like Trilogy’s Harp, Savior, Culprit, or Suspect - and then you get the really close but kinda different discs like Anvil, Anchor, Justice, Slammer, Sinus.
How dare you not pick on the discs that I like! :) great video sir! I've tried to like the mako3 but it's so straight for me I have a hard time putting it where I want it to go. Clearly still working on my aim...
The Hyzerbomb Soft Tank, at 2 1 0 2 is a Berg alternative that does not feel weird in the hand. It is basically a beadless Rhyno and Millennium say they are releasing new ones soon.
Robbie you’re a blessing!! I fell in love with my cookie for that exact reason but I was frustrated I couldn’t find another disc like it. I’m buying a soda next. Thank you!
I'm a zone thrower and I don't hate you... Keep making these great videos!! The disk in my bag, sometimes, is the Groove. I had one that flew great but never felt that good in my hand I lost it and never found one that flies the same. Now it is my "throw it over water" disc. Can't seem to lose it so it's doing its job.
First one that comes to mind is the Zone, but I also really struggled with Aviars and found I felt better about my putting after I replaced them.
Love the video Robbie, had a blast playing with you at Timbrook a couple weeks ago.
How can any one hate you Robbie! Keep up the great work!
I totally agree with you on the Buzzz Roc and Zone over hype Robbie - thank you for saying it
The Rhyno. I like thumb tracks and wanted a slower overstable approach then the Harp but it just didn't feel or throw good. Now I love the Hammer by Yikun.
The pole cat, I got one 3 weeks ago if that...& honestly was amazed on how good it goes...actually gets some good distance too...
This is such a great video! As someone who is at late stage beginner phase, this video opened my eyes about simply putting some discs away for now. There are some that I can’t seem to get to work for me yet. I used to think it was just a waiting game before I get good enough to use them so I best bag them and throw them in order to get my practice in. I can’t wait to get down to the disc store and start reconsidering some of my current bag. Thanks, Robbie.
Never have liked a buzzz but had one in the bag for years cause everyone told me that was the disc. Have switched and fell in love with the hex
I spied that IceBerg Challenge disc. Great event in Bloomington, IN!
Now I may know why I like the zone over some others I've tried. My hands are smaller and I find discs with a deep rim to be hard to handle well. The zone is almost still too deep but glad to hear it has a shallower rim than some other over stable approaches
I'm doing just fine, thx for the thought. 😆
Robbie, I'm a Zone guy til I die but I could never hate you. Appreciate all that you do! I personally can't seem to like the Vortex.
Great video Robbie! You addressed some things everyones been thinking but not saying! For me it’s gotta be the roc. Since disc golf’s creation everybody points to a roc along with other similar discs like the buzzz for a straight midrange but I’ve always found them to be slightly overstable instead of straight/neutral how they are described. And I’ve never really liked any beaded discs so the roc just really doesn’t fit the bill for me. I also love to throw forehands and even though on backhands they are a little overstable they flip right over on forehands. Not to mention the awful way it feels to grip a forehand with a beaded disc.
No hate just love…. This was a great video to call attention to the idea that some disks work well for some folks and some don’t. we all know it but we still try to bag discs that are impressive. For me, that’s the rock three everyone thinks it’s such a great disk when they see it, but it hooks on my finger with certain plastics. so thank you Mr. man, keep up the great work
Can agree on the buzz and zone, i started with them a couple of months ago, and both got dropped for a warship and a tempo.
Loved this video….I for example love the magician most everyone else I talk to hates it but it works well for what I use it for. Not a buzz fan either but love my rocs🤷♂️
It’s OK that you hate my favorite Disc that’s what opinions are for. It’s still great to watch you. Keep up the good work. Buzzz for life.
The AGL Cedar is one disc that I just couldn’t get behind. Every time is saw one, the disc was so sharp and the rim was awkward. Due to the unusual feel, you have to hold it tighter and then the sharp edge just gets you.
The harp... The VIP harp...
It feels like a brick and a razorblade had a baby
Sockibomb Slammer. Fell into the whole 'it doesn't glide' narrative and beat my head against a wall to try and make it work but it was just too deep for what I prefer. Used a Tempo during the Circuit challenge and LOVED the feel and just committed to it. Now I just need stock runs to come out so I can get more plastic types.
The DGA Quake. Just too over stable, however considering that I bought it for rollers and didn't use it for that, it may be my fault.
..and maybe the Glitch. The jury is still out on that one. Got it as birthday present.
Thanks for the awesome video!
Tried out the Dagger in Latitude's Sense plastic. Disc felt super deep and longer approaches became almost impossible for me to make with that disc. Switched back to my Prime Judge and felt a lot more at ease with my putts and approaches.
Did also try a buzzz recently. Loved the feel of it in my hand and the way it soared. Considering getting one for my bag :)
I recently got an F2 Pig because of how many great things I had heard about it, and I am really struggling with it, maybe one of my first discs that I don't like.
Man, it feels nice to have someone agree with me on the Buzzz. I also threw the Buzzz a ton when I started and thought I liked it. But it never quite delivered on how everyone described it. Then I found the Hex and never looked back. And I used to throw the Berg a lot and still love it, but it just doesn't have a place in my bag right now.
Same but reactor here
I hate beads but I love the A4. It is so consistent on pure hyzer when you have plenty of space to swing one in. And it whistles 😄
Noah is crazy. The Volt is the best feeling disc in the world. One of mine is the Shryke. I can occasionally push them out past 400’ on a forehand, but I’m just as likely to burn them over or launch them way up in the air. Can’t seem to control the nose angle. The Berg is another. I love it for backhand. I love the flight I get from it on forehand, but it hangs up and late releases a lot. I’m doing some Berg only forehand rounds right now to see if I can figure it out. Because when it comes out clean it’s the absolute straightest forehand disc I’ve ever thrown out to around 225’.
I'm trying to love the Crave, but it's mostly resting in my shed now. Getting better results with the Relay and Mockingbird...
The hex! I have 4 in different plastics love the feel of them! Just can't get a good release with them
I'm on the same page with the zone. I do seem to throw it pretty well but I just don't like the hand feel. I normally don't throw a lot of Prodigy but I love the A2.
I agree on the buzz. the problem is I throw it really really well. So I treated it like the ole Billy Baroo putter, I only reach for it when the shot really really matters.
I agree with the roc. It doesn't feel great but the results speak for themselves. Its my go to from 280 to 150
That cookie is magical, I've had some weak throws with itz but when it hooks up I love it, I'll get used to it
Great video. Everyone loves the fuse. I no matter what , can't like it and I get flack all the time for not liking it.
I was using DX Aviars for a long time. I wanted to try something different and just got a 5 pack of Classic Blend Burst Judges a few weeks ago. I like the feel of the softer grippy plastic and bead. So far so good.
I love my classic blend judges for winter time discing.
Nothing but love for you. Tell it like it is. Buzz, Destroyers, Aviar just to name a few. If they don’t like it then they maybe should have left their feelings at home. 😂
I tried to like the Firebird, but I found it just wasn't for me. Now I use a Vulture in my over stable control driver slot and I love it!
I have bagged an A4 (500) and A3 (750) since the first time I tried them, they're the best forehand discs for me inside 275
I think the berg feels great . I also like the feel of the armadillo . Idk what to throw
Berg, Buzzz, Roc3, Meteor, and Harp. I really wanted to like these bc they are staples for many players, and I struggled to make a connection with any of them and finally took them out of the bag.
The roadrunner first disc I tried to Hyzer flip hated it hahaha but it’s still in my bag 😂
I love every disc. The disc is never the problem.
The Berg is the best disc ever!!!! lol but I do hate the Buzzz as well. Tried several times to like it... ended up with a Hex and its amazing
I'm with ya Robbie, we need some Star/Champ Pigs. Pig farming has become a mini-game 😂
So I've got something similar going on. I've got a Champion Mako in my bag and I just hate it. But it flies so well for me! It feels weird in my hand but I can't deny it does well for me. I've been looking for a Star or halo Mako to try. Hopefully I'll make it to one of the shops around, but none of them are local.
Not a specific disc per se but an entire disc genre. I can't throw fairway drivers to save me life. I've tried Rover, Leopard, Stag, Teebird, Saint Pro and I'm probably forgetting a few. I've learned ways to adapt but it would be nice to finally find something that I can work with.
I had consistent issues with the aviar x3, then I played with the axiom tempo at this year's circuit challenge and it immediately kicked the aviarx3 out of my bag
Same here!
I started playing this June I play a few days a week and I’ve been buying so many discs to find what I like or want to put in my bag. Most discs I kind of have a great idea of what I like but I cannot figure out putting putters. Did find a watt and I think It might be the one.
Robbie, I can't believe how you dissed my #berglyfe and #buzzzz (ace disc), i'm in shock, utter shock, appreciate your POV...
I may have a buzzz OS, 2 buzzz, and buzzz ss in my bag, but I used to hate the feel of the esp buzzz. Too stiff, too deep. Then the esp flx came back, and now that esp flx buzzz is my Staple disc in my bag. My answer to your question is newer esp and Z buzzz's. Older ones feel great!
Also, I'll sign your petition for star and champ pigs. Send me the link
Kastaplast is slowly taking the top spot for me. K1 soft berg is my favorite followed by the Svea.
The Judge.
I love the hand feel & flight except for how deep it feels to me with the head on it. Switched to Pures and have been addicted to them. Putt and throw.
This is what I came here to say, except I putt with Hopes now. Pures were good, but a little too shallow for me. Hopes fit right in that middle ground, feel great with the Sense plastic and have that slightly more stable flight
I recently removed all even speed discs from my bag and it greatly improved my game. Going to an 8 or 10 speed would never work out how id expect compared to 7,9, or 11 speeds. I needed a more distinct difference in feel between discs.
I have done this too, kept spaces between speeds with molds in the slot they fill except from a Valkyrie to Dragon as those are almost the same mold, but have for Dragon backup discs lightweight DX Valkyrie around upper 140's for backup as in 2021 when I was going to get the backup mold, the discs had on some shops showing actual weight that they were 160 grams and did not float in the tests at the shop from regular production runs, so for the disc I use for water/tailwind bombers I got for backup, cheap F2 upper 140 gram DX Valkyrie discs for this slot. Hopefully not being a R Pro that is less durable then regular DX, the discs will last longer when need to get the backups out for the DX Dragon I am using now.
Teebird. Love the flight, but can't lose the wobbles consistently with the dang thing. Something about the shoulder of the disc and my hand
Def the Buzzz for me I have tried it but I was like why so now I bag Hexs in that slot and love them. #teamberg HA
I play with several players who love the berg. I have two and I try using them, but nothing can replace my DX rhyno lol.
Tried to like the pa3. Found some bubble gum pink that felt like erasers and they felt great but, I just missed the banger gt thumb groove. I couldn't switch
My buddy throws a kastaplast kaxe and is a magician with it. I love the feel of the plastic but the rim size is awkward and Icouldn'tget a consistent release. I had one in my bag for way too long trying to force it. Finally let it go.
I thought the shallowness of the Zone bothered me, but then I tried the Toro and loved it. And the Toro is pretty shallow too, so IDK
Roc3 hate the feel so much, I use it as a planter dish until I go to Nevin, then tunnel shots.
Then back to the orchid
I’ve just been into disc golf for about 6 months. I have hit the used bin at my local shop pretty hard trying to find what works for me. Sometimes I stand there and say maybe I should just learn to throw what I have better instead of trying yet another disc, but it really is up to trial and error. I got the Polecat a while back, but it looks like I putt better with a fan grip. That deep rim isn’t very easy to throw with that grip as you mentioned. I keep trying it but mostly leave it in the bag. Part of the fun of the game! Thanks Robbie.
2 years in and I can say you sound just like I did when I was 6 months in my first year I found a small company making rubber discs. I bought they're whole line up and just played those four discs people laughed at me but I learned how to throw those discs at every angle I threw each disc a thousand times now they are a staple in my bag the second year I bought 7 clash discs and used them with the rubber and I have gone from there to just collecting discs and learning new ones but one thing for sure is I have to have it feel good on release period. Keep at it I am playing around par every time out good days and bad but always a blast!! I am playing in an event this weekend and I feel like I can win! I am 62 years old yes an old man discin!!!
imho, best newb disc is buzzz or mako3. but i suck.
2 years in and I am 62 years old my best advice is to put 5 discs in your bag and learn every throw you can make with each disc and just use the same five molds for a year. Because each disc can give you so many different shots and trying to learn that and having to learn with each disc it gets confusing after 2 years I am up to 11 discs in my bag that I know what shot to take. I have 20 shots per disc so far lol play with what you got. Before buying a disc make sure it feels good in your hand. Have fun learning flights. old dude discin!
I in my early game used to love the l64 fuse. As a was starting in disc golf it flew very strait for me, but now 2 years later I've moved up into amateur level it has become understable. I think I have either: 1, Ruined it by shanking into many, many, many trees. Or 2, advanced from it. Or 3, a combo of both
I love the kastaplast järn as approach disc!
edit: you are welcome!
edit 2: lots by kastaplast, tried and tried but cant keep it in the bag
It’s funny, I’m about the same size as you, but the deeper discs feel terrible in my hand. I feel like I have trouble keeping the nose down. The buzz and roc felt too deep but I instantly loved the hex. Saying that I do have a lucid judge for throwing and it feels way too deep but is by far my most consistent release. I may have to get more comfortable with the deeper rims.
i tried the harp for a long time but didn’t like it, then i got a toro and love how much shallower it is
Discraft Comet...I wanted to be able to throw this disc so bad but every time it was complete trash. I finally took it out and replaced it with a Sol. Even though the flight numbers are similar, the Sol just flies better.
I got a pro-d zone to give it a try and despised it. Went into my local shop and felt a z zone and thought it felt way better. Its in my bag and i enjoy it for the approach thats a little further than a pig shot.
My first putter was a classic aviar and i hate that thing. Ive tried throwing it ive tried putting with it, and I've tried selling it. Probably gonna send it along with the pro d zone to Jessie for recycling into an actual good disc.
The Binx from elevation I want to really like it because it folds best thing I ever did was rip it into some tall grass and lost it
To each their own, RC. Being a newer player, I'll be real quick to gravitate towards what feels good against my fingertips. I tried the Roc...hated it. I do like the Mako3 and Lion. I like the Buzzzs but not the Zones or Wasp. R-Pro Pig, feels real good in the hand and I like the flight path.
i love the mako3. used to throw buzzz and buzzz os (because buzzz gets understable quickly). now i throw the hex. it outdrives most of my fairways and feels good, not great, as a forehand. zone and buzzz os still better forehands.
@@darinladd5312 my shoulder doesn’t allow me to sidearm; hopefully, one day. I’ve been hearing about the Hex. Maybe I’ll look into one those here soon.
My disc was the Hex. Everyone raved about it, and since I needed a mid, I went and picked one up. Just couldn't figure that one out. Tried it for several months on different courses/ shots, and it just wasn't for me. Gave it to my buddy who absolutely loves it.
curious: what did you settle on, and why?
The Robbie C people will love this video.
Kaxe is probably the disc that's gone in and out of my bag the most. I got it last summer for glow golf, and I aced with it first time playing glow. It feels really nice in the hand, plastic feels great and it feels great when I grip it. But it's such an awkward disc for how I play. It's a bit too flippy to fill the gap of overstable fairway and it doesn't really fight back from an anhyzer enough to where it would be useful for me, a bit too fast for a mid. When it's windy I really don't trust it, and I still have a little too much OAT on my forehand for it to be useful there. So it's flight is just a jack of all trades between a cluster I have in my bag. So I'll remove it too make room in my bag, but I keep seeing it, become nostalgic to that first month using it, and then just bag it and never use it, until I eventually remove it and the cycle continues.
And on the flipside, when I first got the Glitch, I quickly dismissed it. I couldn't throw it at all, it turned over too much when I tried giving it power, it was way too deep for my hands etc, but this year I've forced my self to play with it and it's become one of my favorite discs. Started out with shorter approaches instead of a Berg, but now with better angle control I'll throw it off the tee too, and even use it for some sneaky approach forehands. Inside that 40m range it's basically a lazer on a forehand, "flipping the bird" grip with the slightest of hyzers and it will hit some crazy gaps. Before I would only forehand super os approach discs and fairways because of my oat, but now that I've gotten better I can now propperly Hyzerflip my Mockingbirds on a forehand thanks to the Glitch.
i use the glitch for putting. it has nearly replaced the proxy. but the (eclipse) proxy is still my favorite disc.
Buzz has never felt good in my hand! Same with Roc!! Robbie we are spirit hands… lmao
I don’t like the Buzzz. I tried and tried and tried. I even bought a Disc Store Bomb Pop Full color disc. Hated the way it felt in my hand. Just bought a Zone soft hoping to like it. LOVE THE PIG. The plastic in the Pro Line feels so good in my hand
Leopard and possible the Era. I bought a used Era and love the flight path, but i'm having trouble figuring out how to grip it. The rim is too small for my hands.
for me its definitely the buzzz. The sharp edge on the bottom just doesn't feel good to me. And there are other discs that achieve that same flight
All of the guys around my area are big on Innova, so Rocs and Mako3s are very popular. I don't like how they feel for me.
I like mids and own about 14 different molds. Once I felt the Hex I finally got my mid game down. I tried Buzzzs, ( and bag the OS for utility) but I don't like how those release for me either. I did throw a Pathfinder for a little while when I lost my first Hex and enjoyed that, but the Hex suits me best for anything mid range.
Love the Zone - definitely NO HARP for me! 😅
The Lat64 Sapphire: tried the Retro & Opto one, supposed to be an easy to throw disc, it ends up going super nose up for me (other drivers don't do that) and/or has more fade than my Grace...
The Fission Crave: I have the Bodanza Van stamp one, max weight, and that thing doesn't want to go straight, it's more OS than my Volt or Tesla... If I try my wife's one, ~150g, it's almost a roller even with ~30° of hyzer
Just a FYI Lone Star has like 10 different plastics V1 V2 alpha bravo delta1 delta2 charlie founders Lima and glow. Only know because I am a member of there team. Love their victor bravo and glow plastics
Gotta be the Glitch for me. Picked one up and tried to like it for months, but ended up selling it. Got a Watt recently and it's 100x better, albeit not exactly the same slot.
I liked this only because of Robbie's opinion of the buzzz
It took me - FOREVER - to have the courage to say I didn’t like the Buzzz. Didn’t like it in my hand, unconfident in the air. I got an ESP Buzzz and felt mildly better about that in the air, but still didn’t feel confident nor like the hand feel at all. Was convinced something was wrong with me there for a while hahaha
Eventually replaced with a Compass and a Bounty. Never looked back.
The Innova Cobra is the most underrated mid of all time and I will bag them til I die
I don't like a Buzzz at all either. It feels so big and clunky. K1 soft Berg is $$$, but I prefer the Watt. I haven't found anything like a Zone, but I have a Tempo coming today to test. Agreed that Nuke is too big for my hand, but the Nuke SS is great forehand. As for plastics, S Line, K1, and Soft Proton/Neutron, and Crystal FLX are among my favorite.