From my personal experience Fireteam Raven was meant to follow "The Flood" by Eric Nylund closer than it was to Cbat Evolved. I believe it was meant to be more of an Easter egg title to lore core fans because it shows you locations from the book that you don't get to see in Combat Evolved.
That is an awesome part of the game, seeing stuff from the book. In the video they say level 3 was boring but I loved it because (if I remember correctly) it shows the UNSC taking over the large plateau that would end up being their base of operations on the ring.
Can also confirm, the very same person who made the Star Wars: Dark Forces novella trilogy, Hitman: Enemy Within, and the much lambasted Mass Effect: Deception wrote this, not Eric Nylund. I wonder what the novel would have been like had Nylund wrote it though?
6:10 The AI (Wellesley), is a dumb AI mentioned in Halo:The flood, he was the AI that assisted the Marines and ODSTs on alpha base, so it's actually pretty cool he was included in the game. With that in mind, props to 343 for including him and other characters from the book like Major Silva.
Exactly what I was thinking of. The whole 2nd Level is from the book too and the 3th one maybe is the defence of alpha base maybe? Pretty cool they brought a lore accurate game to the arcade. I would have been dissapointed if brutes would have been in the game.
I've never seen people give it hate outside of "all you could do was shoot the enemies". Yeah... that's what an on rails shooter is... besides, for an on rails arcade shooter, it was REALLY high quality when I used it. The physical unit was nice, the gun felt good, and the visuals/graphics were from CEA, Reach, H3, and H2A and looked damn amazing! It was really really cool to see so many visual styles clash at once in a halo game. It made the continuity honestly feel just a little more consistent
The video explains why it's lacking as a rails shooter, though. Games like The House of the Dead or Time Crisis have real urgency or terror as a bunch of enemies come at you. This video makes it sound like the Halo rails shooter becomes like a Universal Studios ride sometimes... you're on rails and stuff is happening around you but not *at* you. Also they didn't say but those other rails shooters I mentioned are cool because they have a lot of environmental interactivity which is fun. I think it's fine to find this to be an interesting game while admitting that it's middling as far as arcade rails shooters go.
@@HonestObserver oh I 100% agree with you and the point RS made. I'm just saying most people who complained at its launch didn't have that comprehensive of an argument lol
Idk you see people hating on Fast and Furious for being a car action movie. Or Jurassic Park for being a dinosaur thriller, instead of a movie with an intricate plot, or deep complex characters. Some people don't realize that other people can enjoy something entirely different about a medium than them. And when the thing they enjoy doesn't exist in the product they watch, they are just too stupid to understand how someone else might enjoy it because of something they don't care for.
The final level is super straight forward. You stop the covenant from interfering with Chief that’s trying to make the Pillar of Autumn a nuke to destroy the ring. Not sure why that is confusing.
@@welkingunther5417 Agreed, i'm seriously considering unsubbing from this channel if this guy keeps on making obvious mistakes like that and whining about Microsoft.
To be honest, this is my first time hearing anything negative about fireteam raven. I've actually seen (and played on) three fireteam raven arcade machines. It's a lot of fun.
Friendly reminder this is the same dude that put "The Covenant" mission on A tier and gave "Floodgate" S tier in his """"Halo missions tier list"""" I like his content but some of his opinions are pretty meh and don't seem to be very informed
@@ABoxIsMyHome indeed it is but rocket sloth rated it "A" tier while Floodgate was rated "S" tier funny thing is that he said he doesn't like backtracking levels and that is what floodgate essencially is As i said this channel has good videos but Rocket Sloth doesn't really make the best opinion type of videos
The Story is an adaptation of the tie in Novel Halo: The Flood. With certain events, Characters and locations that happened in the book it's an interesting read
Yeah I feel really interested in it because I really like the side stories that book had about the rest of the UNSC forces on the ring, but I totally get it being a tad boring for people who haven't read it.
@@PackHunter117 well, the marines did go to back to the pillar of autumn in the book, but they went back to get supplies, not to prevent the covenant from blowing up the ring. In the novel the marines did attack the truth and reconciliation to use to get off the ring though.
@@Pharis111 Well to be fair maybe both could work? The Covenant would wanna activate the ring. The UNSC went to stop them from doing that alongside collecting supplies.
@@robertharris6092 Or you can learn the lore without playing it. Hidden Experia went over and played it with his friends and you can watch the lore without paying a dime. But you go to the arcade to have fun.
@@celticchampions9021 never beaten it. But the story (watched a recap) was really good and it looks fun! Edit: I also played it, I think I got halfway through.
11:18 "You're sent on this suicide mission to stop the Covenant from blowing up the Pillar of Autumn so that the Master Chief can blow up the Pillar of Autumn." The Covenant were gonna destroy the Autumn in a way that wouldn't cause the entire thing to do mass destruction to the ring, while Chief WAS gonna destroy it with the intent to destroy the ring. So basically, the Covenant opted to neutralize the threat of the Halo's destruction AND destroying the Autumn, while Chief opted to use the Autumn to do mass damage and obliterate the Halo so that the Covies CAN'T have it. Yeah, kinda confusing when you don't get the actual intent of the objective word-for-word, but makes sense when you have it detailed.
Um, there was most definitely a second AI on the pillar of autumn who was assigned to the odsts. He's prominent in the flood novelization of the original game.
@@Bmuenks31 Like I said Rocket Sloths never read the books and hardly knows any lore outside of surface level stuff from the games, so it's not a surprise that he wouldn't know Alpha base, but, even I a person who has never played Fireteam Raven could tell you that he clearly wasn't paying any attention to the story, as I'm pretty sure what you doing in the last mission is supposed to be stopping the Covenant from interfering with the Master Chief, not the convoluted explanation he gave.
I disagree with you on this video, When the flood juggernauts came in and threw the hunters off the platform. That was the coolest fan service I have ever seen from a halo game. This game made the juggernauts canon and gave them love.
I've played the game a couple of times and while it is a cool concept and I had some fun with friends, the individual enemies are too powerful and the guns do too little damage which wrings more money from the player since they're dying so often.
@@adams.2407 it doesn't mean their bad. Arcade machines cost alot. And you get to play a decent game for like 5 dollars to 10 dollars (depends on your skill, I beaten a different rail shooter that was 2x as hard with 8 dollars worth of points) so yeah.
They get all ya money, but that makes console ports for arcade games way cooler because it just gives you endless shots at something designed to be really hard and unfair
I never forgot Fireteam Raven, I had so much fun playing it with my friends. My Halo 3 armour also entirely consists of their armours, ODST is my favourite armour after all.
I love how the ending of the game is literally just gaslighting the Halo fans by saying that the whole UNSC was alive fighting the Flood and if the camera panned down a little bit during the opening cutscene of The Maw then you would've seen them going at it.
There was always a wider battle going on, thats why Cortana says stuff like "I didn't think there were any UNSC forces left on this part of the ring" In at least one of the PC maps or its remake it references that the UNSC made a base on that map Idk if Halo: The Flood is canon though , which a lot of this game is based on It is kinda funny that yeah apparently they were literally just not there in the sweeping camera shots but were there in lore? on one hand I like the feeling of solitude that comes from Chief being pretty much alone in his fight by the time the Maw takes place on the other I always wanted the Battle of Alpha Halo to feel like a battle
13:55 if I remember right from lore videos about Fireteam Raven, they supposed to defend MC from the covenant. Hints why we never saw the covenant at the end of the cutscene on CE
I really enjoyed it. Felt like it was loosely based on Halo: The Flood. I had four people in a four player booth and we coordinated pretty well and got through the whole thing. I’d play it again if they ported it to a download only game on console.
11:35 i think it does make sense, because chief wants to shut down the cooling system and cause a nuclear meltdown ( destroying the ring). The covenant just want to destroy the pillar of autumn (which would not cause a big enough explosion to destroy the ring). So they need to protect the pillar of autumn until chief gets there so he can use it to destroy the ring
I still go to my local arcade / bowling alley to play this from time to time, I even made a joke to one of the managers that I'll buy the cabinet when they retire it Edit: Microsoft is missing a huge opportunity to sell this game with a Magnum shaped lightgun, I know I'd buy it
My girlfriend and I actually just played the first 2 missions of Fireteam Raven at Dave & Busters and then she wanted to play an actual Halo game like 2 days later so she played the first two missions of Halo 2 Anniversary :) she liked it.
Played this in person with my boyfriend, I had fun with it for what it was. I'd love if 343 made a follow-up or something, the idea of Halo in arcades is a very interesting idea
Might be one of the only people to ever say this, but fireteam raven was my first halo game and what got me into halo. I like ODSTs more than Spartans for this game, H2As art style is my favorite because I loved the look of the covenant and wanting to know what the flood where is what made me watch my first halo video and eventually the story made me want the games and so on. Even the halo 5 music was something that made me get into the series so I like it almost as much as normal halo music too lol.
went to the arcade with my friend, tried to buy tickets, tickets we bought didn't dispense from the machine, employee told us there was nothing they could do, manager too, so we left without playing and never went back.
Nobody remembers it because it's an arcade on-rails shooter lmao. That considered, it was actually pretty cool. I remember I was on vacation in Florida when I first heard about it, and then, by pure coincidence, my family and I went to a Dave & Buster's later that week, and it was there. 13-year old me was very hyped lmao.
Fireteam Raven is actually still available at my the Cinergy near me. I haven't actually played it yet. But me and my girlfriend are planning a trip to the arcade to play it in the near future. Hopefully we can finish it all.
Hard to remember something when you didn't know it existed in the first place. This looks super fun though, I should see if any of the arcades in my town have it.
No disrespect but how do yall have a channel dedicated to Halo and not read the books or have a good understanding of the lore? especially for the events of CE at that? Like this looks absolutely amazing and I've been wanting to play this since it's release, bonus to the fact you get to see CE from another point of view. Honestly hurts to see this being talked down of.
I enjoyed the hell out of this, especially since it's based off the parallel narrative and characters in the novelization of CE. Def a fun game for casuals but also cool for lore nuts
I have to STRONGLY DISAGREE with your assessment that's Fire team raven is for the casual new player to be introduced to Halo overall. The game basically speed runs a B Plot that an author ran for the tie in novelization for CE. And it's all there. The evacuation of Autumn. The taking of the Platue Base. The defense of said Platue Base. Finding out last minute what chief was up to. They even took characters directly from the book and put them in fire team raven. Major Silva being your commanding officer because the Captain was Mia most of the actual game. This is something hardcore lore fans of the franchise would love. And as one of them. I did.
I only ever got past the first level and half the 2nd with a single swipe, since I was with my Gf and she wanted something from the claw machine lmao. Anyways from what I seen it felt like they based the game more off the books in which one of the storylines is about some ODST and the other surviving members of the Pillar and their HQ, however if I remember correctly everyone dies on the Truth and Reconciliation or another covenant cruiser as they sacrifice themselves to blow the ship and keep the flood from escaping, this is due to Jenkins who was turned into an incomplete flood form and was able to gain control from time to time while also being completely conscious and feeling EVERYTHING the flood did to him. Also the A.I is probably the dumb A.I from the book as well.
Correct on everything except every Marine deciding ti destroy the captured Truth and Reconciliation. ODST 1Lt. Melissa McKay decided to take care of that herself since Major Silva was hell bent on returning to Earth despite the Flood being on the ship.
I really liked it for what is was. It was a fun experience to play through at the arcade, the sounds are all around and the music is blaring and the gun is shaking in your hands as you kill wave upon wave of Covenant. And I love Halo, so it made it all the better.
This is so cool thank you for spending your time and money to show us what the arcade game was like what a cool idea I never would have seen this otherwise
This game was my first game experience with halo at my local dave n busters in San Diego. I thank this game and the halo theme for introducing me to this awesome franchise.
Funny how you know about flood juggernauts but not about how having pure forms in ce kinda breaks the lore or that cortana wasnt the only ai on the ship or that there shouldnt be any marines in two betrayals or that the one map was in fact on forge world or that alpha base was kinda important to the human effort on the ring or that firrteam raven tried to stop the covenant from sabotaging the reactor (instead of blowing it up).
11:41 Nuh uh in the lore the covenant try to stop the Master chief blow up the piller of autumn Fireteam raven is task to stop the covenant form stopping master cheif trying who to blow up the autumn
Failed? I played it in full with a friend last week, and I thought for an arcade game it was pretty awesome. I mean the game has better set pieces than fucking Halo Infinite.
So, after watching your video, I get the feeling like you don't spend much time at the arcade. Your review is fine, but ultimately lacking in direct comparisons to other modern arcade shooters. You also clearly played the game suboptimaly as you shorter yourself half your squad. My personal experience with the game was decent. Beat it fairly easily and my biggest issue was its short length and abundance of unavoidable damage.
*Man i remember playing Fireteam Raven begore i knew anything about Halo i was in a cinema playing it and it was so much fun but since i llive in mexico i dont think im going to see that arcade ever again since they move to other place but it was defenitly so much fun and i really wanna play it again*
I did this a few years ago. I went to Dave and buster's with the intent to beat this game. Luckily I saw the halo waypoint scan thing to attach my xbox account to it and to this day I have never seen anyone with the same emblem on mcc that I earned from beating the game. Great video!
One thing I noticed playing the game was that you can’t take out enemies when they’re far away you have to wait until they can start shooting you. So you can never be on the offensive you’re always getting hit and shooting whatever’s shooting you
There's actually a 2 player cabinet of this just sitting in the middle of one of the halls in my local city mall. There are no other arcade cabinets anywhere else in the mall. I have no idea why it's there or how they managed to get it but even if I don't use it I appreciate seeing it there.
I've got this exact cabinet at my work and it's pretty damn popular-- i'll ever occasionally see the birth of a new pint-sized halo fan once in a while. Really don't know what you expected from an on-rails shooter in the vain of Jurassic Park. Cool side-story and getting a new perspective into HALO CE.
For me every time Master Chief showed up and did something cool I would think, "That's how cool I looked playing Halo Combat Evolved" Edit: Just wanted to add the reason they want to destroy it over the covenant is because the covenant doesn't know about Earth's existence yet, its not worth the risk of them scavenging it. Also since Cortana isn't on the ship she can't wipe all archives, map data, or info of/about Earth.
I played this at a D&B with my two brothers and my gf (who doesn’t play shooters at all). We had a great time and managed to finish the full story without having to spend much extra (I think it ended up being around $10-12 per person?). Maybe we had an advantage because we were a full team of four, but either way it was a really cool experience and we remember it as our favorite game from D&B.
I completely forgot about Fireteam Raven until I signed up for the Halo Infinite flights. One of the sections asked which Halo games you have played. I thought, easy I can check off all of these games. Then I found Fireteam Raven as one of the items and realized that I hadn't played all of the Halo games yet. So I did some research and found several arcades with the game. Overall I agree with your take on the game. I think it is just good for a dumb fun kind of a game. I don't have much experience with on rail shooters, so I don't know how it compares to other games of the same style. I just enjoyed the game because I looked for all of the tokens that nodded to Halo. I've played through all of the missions a couple times with different groups of friends and we generally enjoyed the experience, but it sucks that it's pricey. The trick is to find an arcade that charges less per "token." Dave and Busters is notorious for charging a little more than other arcades. I found this one arcade that legit charges 1 nickel per token and they had the Halo machine lol. Way cheaper. Also I've heard 343i has their own machine in their office and that one is free to play. I only got the Halo Waypoint QR code scanner to work once. Every other time has failed me, which sucks. I think the machine's scanners are just cheap and fail easily.
Cortana was not the only on ship AI, she was the first on ship AI that was capapable of being plugged into a foot soldier. They even say "all the capabilities of an on ship AI in a soldier on the ground."
It was pretty ok to good. The best way to explain it is I went “oh look a Halo cabinet, oh this is pretty fun for like 5+ minutes,” then I went and played the Cabella’s Deer Hunter, a way to not kill deae but still piss off Peta.
I played fire team raven for the first time a few months ago, and it was a lot of fun for an on rails arcade shooter! I was in a 4 player variant and was the only person to stay in through the entire game, with kids and their parents sometimes jumping in to play a level or two.
I loved fireteam raven and unless im missing something i cant fathom how it took 70 dollars for you to beat it with two players it took me 4 deaths (1 for me 3 for my partner) and i had a great time with it and i always point it out whenever i see one.
Yea that’s either way off or they’re just really bad. Between me and my friend in a 2 player cabinet (maybe 4 players had something to do with it?) we spent around $20 or $25, definitely no more than $30. And that was with each of us dying once or twice in each level. What’s cool is the end of each level scores each player based on their performance, which makes it competitive and motivates everyone to try their best which also helps save money. I get a sense these guys weren’t keeping track of their reloading and which enemies were more immediately dangerous, they weren’t engaged enough with it.
My biggest complaint about Halo Fireteam Raven was that I could never find a cabinet locally. I was just on google and I think 1-2 Arcades in my city still have it, neither of which are close to me.
For an arcade game, I'm surprised by how much blood is shown. I'm not complaining, but I'm definitely surprised. My friend Caleb and myself played through the entire game in 1 sitting and thoroughly enjoyed it. PS. At 5:20, in the novelization of the first Halo game, ODST's had orders to evacuate Marines and Navy personnel while protecting the reactor of the Autumn on its way down to the ring. That's a plausible reason for Chief to "leave behind" our group of ODST's.
I think that you are being a bit too harsh on the fun factor, BUT it is definitely expensive. Ive played all of it and I enjoyed it. It was neat seeing so much more of stuff that “happened during CE”. Also I am not a huge Rail Arcade shooter fan and I think that my 2 player Booth I played at cost like $20-$30 total not $70😅
I would like to imagine the suicide mission was a sacrifice. In lore, a single flood spore can also infect anything with a nervous system. So they probably knew they were infected long before. So instead of just accepting it, they decided to go out with a bang. Almost literally.
My best friend and I did this game from beginning to end on a day where it was free non-ticket arcade games, we spent 4 HOURS playing this game front to back, and as veterans of the Bungie Halos we found it enjoyable but repetitive at times, and being the only 1 of us who had a Halo Waypoint account I was able to get a pretty neat little profile badge for playing and beating this game.
This Arcade game was the one thing me and my friends at AIT over in Fort Lee Virgina that we did over our weekends (Spents a good amount of money getting through the game)
My friend and I spotted tried this game once. We didn't really like it because the high difficulty means there isn't really a way to avoid damage and his gun didn't seem to be calibrated properly.
I stopped playing Halo because I went from 360 to PS4 and seeing/playing Fireteam Raven is what caused me to finally buy an Xbone to play MCC which reignited a since unending Halo Obsession… So I think about Fireteam Raven quite frequently. The area you didn’t recognize is a remake of an area from an early Halo 1 demo which is a super cool touch. Also blowing up the ship alone wouldn’t create the same chain reaction that Master Chief made to blow up the Halo.
only ever found it once its super hard to find one in the UK especially since arcades arent common here either but i played a few levels and never forgot the shake that gun has when you pull the trigger, so fun
Everyone liked the game and remembers it. Just because a new flagship Halo title releases, doesn't mean everyone forgets the last one lmao. It's an "on-rails" arcade game there's definitely not much to do compared to the rest of the Halo games especially Infinite. Anyone with common sense will put 2 and 2 together. No one forgot about it, it's just a been-there done-that situation.
Flew back to my hometown 2 weeks ago and some friends and I played this. We only made it 4 missions through and we had to quit. I wish we would have finished but at that cost, not worth it! I've always been a huge Halo fan too
there's a movie theater in the general area around where I live, and it's got a full arcade and gastropub connected to it, and it has a fireteam raven machine. really fun, super good
Okay I can actually get why fire team raven would wanna stop the covenant from just dismantling the pillar of autumn, since chief is trying to destabilise the reactor to make a makeshift nuke
From my personal experience Fireteam Raven was meant to follow "The Flood" by Eric Nylund closer than it was to Cbat Evolved. I believe it was meant to be more of an Easter egg title to lore core fans because it shows you locations from the book that you don't get to see in Combat Evolved.
I believe it was William C. Dietz who wrote that one
That is an awesome part of the game, seeing stuff from the book. In the video they say level 3 was boring but I loved it because (if I remember correctly) it shows the UNSC taking over the large plateau that would end up being their base of operations on the ring.
@@skirmisher1901 Can confirm
Can also confirm, the very same person who made the Star Wars: Dark Forces novella trilogy, Hitman: Enemy Within, and the much lambasted Mass Effect: Deception wrote this, not Eric Nylund.
I wonder what the novel would have been like had Nylund wrote it though?
@@michaelandreipalon359 William C. Dietz! Damn I can't believe I didn't realize that. Though Nylund would have done a great job I'm sure.
6:10 The AI (Wellesley), is a dumb AI mentioned in Halo:The flood, he was the AI that assisted the Marines and ODSTs on alpha base, so it's actually pretty cool he was included in the game. With that in mind, props to 343 for including him and other characters from the book like Major Silva.
Wait, the Major Silva from that book is the same Major Silva as in the game?
@@crows_are_superior4464 I believe so, it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
@@cloneyboi8557 *looks at tv show
That's cool
Exactly what I was thinking of. The whole 2nd Level is from the book too and the 3th one maybe is the defence of alpha base maybe? Pretty cool they brought a lore accurate game to the arcade. I would have been dissapointed if brutes would have been in the game.
I've never seen people give it hate outside of "all you could do was shoot the enemies". Yeah... that's what an on rails shooter is... besides, for an on rails arcade shooter, it was REALLY high quality when I used it. The physical unit was nice, the gun felt good, and the visuals/graphics were from CEA, Reach, H3, and H2A and looked damn amazing! It was really really cool to see so many visual styles clash at once in a halo game. It made the continuity honestly feel just a little more consistent
also ODSTs rock!
Restaurant I frequent has it on their arcade area it's a blast
The video explains why it's lacking as a rails shooter, though. Games like The House of the Dead or Time Crisis have real urgency or terror as a bunch of enemies come at you. This video makes it sound like the Halo rails shooter becomes like a Universal Studios ride sometimes... you're on rails and stuff is happening around you but not *at* you. Also they didn't say but those other rails shooters I mentioned are cool because they have a lot of environmental interactivity which is fun. I think it's fine to find this to be an interesting game while admitting that it's middling as far as arcade rails shooters go.
@@HonestObserver oh I 100% agree with you and the point RS made. I'm just saying most people who complained at its launch didn't have that comprehensive of an argument lol
Idk you see people hating on Fast and Furious for being a car action movie. Or Jurassic Park for being a dinosaur thriller, instead of a movie with an intricate plot, or deep complex characters. Some people don't realize that other people can enjoy something entirely different about a medium than them. And when the thing they enjoy doesn't exist in the product they watch, they are just too stupid to understand how someone else might enjoy it because of something they don't care for.
The final level is super straight forward. You stop the covenant from interfering with Chief that’s trying to make the Pillar of Autumn a nuke to destroy the ring. Not sure why that is confusing.
Yeah, it's honestly pretty obvious, especially when, if I recall correctly, it's even said that's what you're doing in-game
yeah for guys that claim to be such big Halo fans it's pretty damn embarrassing that they couldn't comprehend something that straightforward.
@@jadedheartsz Even if it isn't a directly stated thing, it's not hard to infer that's what's happening
@@welkingunther5417 Agreed, i'm seriously considering unsubbing from this channel if this guy keeps on making obvious mistakes like that and whining about Microsoft.
Only thing I can think of is noise level at the location being too high to here the voiceover.
Did it really get “forgotten”? Got a lot of traction at my local D&B, and I found it fun. I mean how far can you go with a traditional arcade game?
Plus they added a fire team Raven update to halo MCC a while back so yeah it's not exactly forgotten!
Chief showing up at random during the missions is actually super cool, haha. I wanna try this out so bad.
To be honest, this is my first time hearing anything negative about fireteam raven. I've actually seen (and played on) three fireteam raven arcade machines. It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, they're just trying to stir up shit.
Friendly reminder this is the same dude that put "The Covenant" mission on A tier and gave "Floodgate" S tier in his """"Halo missions tier list""""
I like his content but some of his opinions are pretty meh and don't seem to be very informed
@@thecommunistloli1042 the covenant is top tier though
I think he meant how the hell did Floodgate rate so high and even higher than the Covenant, one of the best levels in the series
@@ABoxIsMyHome indeed it is but rocket sloth rated it "A" tier while Floodgate was rated "S" tier funny thing is that he said he doesn't like backtracking levels and that is what floodgate essencially is
As i said this channel has good videos but Rocket Sloth doesn't really make the best opinion type of videos
I'm surprised you guys never got into the books. This one especially has a lot of connections with Halo: The Flood
The Story is an adaptation of the tie in Novel Halo: The Flood. With certain events, Characters and locations that happened in the book it's an interesting read
Mostly the Master Chief cameos aren’t canon. The rest works with it as far as I’m aware
Yeah I feel really interested in it because I really like the side stories that book had about the rest of the UNSC forces on the ring, but I totally get it being a tad boring for people who haven't read it.
@@PackHunter117 well, the marines did go to back to the pillar of autumn in the book, but they went back to get supplies, not to prevent the covenant from blowing up the ring. In the novel the marines did attack the truth and reconciliation to use to get off the ring though.
@@Pharis111 Yeah some of the ODSTs did that but then destroyed it since the Flood hitched a ride.
@@Pharis111 Well to be fair maybe both could work? The Covenant would wanna activate the ring. The UNSC went to stop them from doing that alongside collecting supplies.
I really like Fireteam Raven. I don't know why it gets so much hate all the time, it's got a lot of really nice stuff going on.
Because its an inferior halo game you have to pay just to respawn?
@@robertharris6092 My brother in christ this is an ARCADE game.
@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 yeah. So its a horrid waste of money.
@@robertharris6092 Or you can learn the lore without playing it. Hidden Experia went over and played it with his friends and you can watch the lore without paying a dime. But you go to the arcade to have fun.
@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 people care about its lore as much as star wars fans care about disneys "canon"
I actually really liked the game! Wish in the future they could do a port to mobile maybe? Or console it could get added to mcc as a minigame?
It might be coming to xbox because it says on halo waypoint coming soon and I enjoyed it to its really fun
@@celticchampions9021 never beaten it. But the story (watched a recap) was really good and it looks fun!
Edit: I also played it, I think I got halfway through.
Dont forget they added Fire Team Raven, the team itself, as a season in MCC. I got most of Purple Ravens gear XD
@@lancer737 yeah its my favorite season
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11:18 "You're sent on this suicide mission to stop the Covenant from blowing up the Pillar of Autumn so that the Master Chief can blow up the Pillar of Autumn."
The Covenant were gonna destroy the Autumn in a way that wouldn't cause the entire thing to do mass destruction to the ring, while Chief WAS gonna destroy it with the intent to destroy the ring.
So basically, the Covenant opted to neutralize the threat of the Halo's destruction AND destroying the Autumn, while Chief opted to use the Autumn to do mass damage and obliterate the Halo so that the Covies CAN'T have it.
Yeah, kinda confusing when you don't get the actual intent of the objective word-for-word, but makes sense when you have it detailed.
Um, there was most definitely a second AI on the pillar of autumn who was assigned to the odsts. He's prominent in the flood novelization of the original game.
Rocket Sloth has never reads the books
He also called alpha base just some base
@@Bmuenks31 Like I said Rocket Sloths never read the books and hardly knows any lore outside of surface level stuff from the games, so it's not a surprise that he wouldn't know Alpha base, but, even I a person who has never played Fireteam Raven could tell you that he clearly wasn't paying any attention to the story, as I'm pretty sure what you doing in the last mission is supposed to be stopping the Covenant from interfering with the Master Chief, not the convoluted explanation he gave.
@@tigertank1819 that sucks, i really like paying attention to the lore and book/novels, it makes me more immersed in the story
@@Chukedsame it's the reason I like spv3 more than ce due to if having a few more lore ties like going inside alpha base
I disagree with you on this video, When the flood juggernauts came in and threw the hunters off the platform. That was the coolest fan service I have ever seen from a halo game. This game made the juggernauts canon and gave them love.
I've played the game a couple of times and while it is a cool concept and I had some fun with friends, the individual enemies are too powerful and the guns do too little damage which wrings more money from the player since they're dying so often.
Yeah that's the point of arcade games.
@@AstralShot yeah it's become painfully clear to me over the years, but some still slap
@@adams.2407 it doesn't mean their bad. Arcade machines cost alot. And you get to play a decent game for like 5 dollars to 10 dollars (depends on your skill, I beaten a different rail shooter that was 2x as hard with 8 dollars worth of points) so yeah.
exactly why there needs to be a pc / console port
paying the price for an actual game to play a very short arcade game is bullshit
arcade game or not
They get all ya money, but that makes console ports for arcade games way cooler because it just gives you endless shots at something designed to be really hard and unfair
I never forgot Fireteam Raven, I had so much fun playing it with my friends. My Halo 3 armour also entirely consists of their armours, ODST is my favourite armour after all.
I've actually seen it in the wild! It was so cool to me to see it as an arcade machine. I'm very glad I had a chance to experience it :D
I lost a lot of money and it was worth it
@@rangerleaf1505 Your fault, you decided to spend the money as much as you did
I played but i died on the first level
@@alvzcizzler it autocorrected it was supposed to say
I lost a lot of money and it was worth it
I love how the ending of the game is literally just gaslighting the Halo fans by saying that the whole UNSC was alive fighting the Flood and if the camera panned down a little bit during the opening cutscene of The Maw then you would've seen them going at it.
You just couldn't hear them over the epic music that's why
But you literally see that in Halo CE. It pans out to Johnson fighting an elite.
@@theneoreformationist though that version of ce's ending sequence isn't canon
Also basically they just pulled a retcon
There was always a wider battle going on, thats why Cortana says stuff like "I didn't think there were any UNSC forces left on this part of the ring"
In at least one of the PC maps or its remake it references that the UNSC made a base on that map
Idk if Halo: The Flood is canon though , which a lot of this game is based on
It is kinda funny that yeah apparently they were literally just not there in the sweeping camera shots but were there in lore?
on one hand I like the feeling of solitude that comes from Chief being pretty much alone in his fight by the time the Maw takes place
on the other I always wanted the Battle of Alpha Halo to feel like a battle
13:55 if I remember right from lore videos about Fireteam Raven, they supposed to defend MC from the covenant. Hints why we never saw the covenant at the end of the cutscene on CE
They said in Halo 2 that by the time they knew what Chief was doing it was already too late
I really enjoyed it. Felt like it was loosely based on Halo: The Flood. I had four people in a four player booth and we coordinated pretty well and got through the whole thing. I’d play it again if they ported it to a download only game on console.
Wow, how much do you think it collectively cost to get 4 people all the way through? Like $30?
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It’s cheaper per individual the more players there are.
@@whimbox9648 Probably closer to 45$ we live in NY and everything is more expensive here.
Playing through this game was a just-okay journey, huh?
Edit: I’m glad 343 added Fireteam Raven armor and other things into MCC
I actually love Fireteam raven! I played it with my brother at mall of America and we both loved it! A fun take on our beloved Halo franchise
That’s why Minnesota is just better
(I swear to Christ if someone takes this seriously I’m gonna have an aneurysm)
@@2A_ROCKS_ hahahahah ur good
11:35 i think it does make sense, because chief wants to shut down the cooling system and cause a nuclear meltdown ( destroying the ring). The covenant just want to destroy the pillar of autumn (which would not cause a big enough explosion to destroy the ring). So they need to protect the pillar of autumn until chief gets there so he can use it to destroy the ring
I still go to my local arcade / bowling alley to play this from time to time, I even made a joke to one of the managers that I'll buy the cabinet when they retire it
Edit: Microsoft is missing a huge opportunity to sell this game with a Magnum shaped lightgun, I know I'd buy it
I want to buy one so bad
My girlfriend and I actually just played the first 2 missions of Fireteam Raven at Dave & Busters and then she wanted to play an actual Halo game like 2 days later so she played the first two missions of Halo 2 Anniversary :) she liked it.
we even had the four player one too and two random people joined us and helped!
That's so cool! THIS is what Fireteam Raven is about, getting new fans interested in the series!
I believe it did not fail, it was just too exclusive
Exactly
Played this in person with my boyfriend, I had fun with it for what it was. I'd love if 343 made a follow-up or something, the idea of Halo in arcades is a very interesting idea
Might be one of the only people to ever say this, but fireteam raven was my first halo game and what got me into halo. I like ODSTs more than Spartans for this game, H2As art style is my favorite because I loved the look of the covenant and wanting to know what the flood where is what made me watch my first halo video and eventually the story made me want the games and so on. Even the halo 5 music was something that made me get into the series so I like it almost as much as normal halo music too lol.
went to the arcade with my friend, tried to buy tickets, tickets we bought didn't dispense from the machine, employee told us there was nothing they could do, manager too, so we left without playing and never went back.
Nobody remembers it because it's an arcade on-rails shooter lmao. That considered, it was actually pretty cool. I remember I was on vacation in Florida when I first heard about it, and then, by pure coincidence, my family and I went to a Dave & Buster's later that week, and it was there. 13-year old me was very hyped lmao.
I actually just recently played the arcade game a few weeks ago, I rather enjoyed it a lot. Got 6th on the scoreboard
Fireteam Raven is actually still available at my the Cinergy near me. I haven't actually played it yet. But me and my girlfriend are planning a trip to the arcade to play it in the near future. Hopefully we can finish it all.
Hard to remember something when you didn't know it existed in the first place. This looks super fun though, I should see if any of the arcades in my town have it.
No disrespect but how do yall have a channel dedicated to Halo and not read the books or have a good understanding of the lore? especially for the events of CE at that? Like this looks absolutely amazing and I've been wanting to play this since it's release, bonus to the fact you get to see CE from another point of view. Honestly hurts to see this being talked down of.
The base is alpha base from the books
Fireteam raven was my first halo experience, afterwards I bought the MCC
I actually really liked it. My wife hated halo on the Xbox but enjoyed playing this with me. Would love to go back and beat the entire game!
I enjoyed the hell out of this, especially since it's based off the parallel narrative and characters in the novelization of CE. Def a fun game for casuals but also cool for lore nuts
Literally never heard of it until a couple of days ago. Surprisingly fun to be fair
I have to STRONGLY DISAGREE with your assessment that's Fire team raven is for the casual new player to be introduced to Halo overall.
The game basically speed runs a B Plot that an author ran for the tie in novelization for CE.
And it's all there. The evacuation of Autumn. The taking of the Platue Base. The defense of said Platue Base.
Finding out last minute what chief was up to.
They even took characters directly from the book and put them in fire team raven.
Major Silva being your commanding officer because the Captain was Mia most of the actual game.
This is something hardcore lore fans of the franchise would love.
And as one of them.
I did.
15:05 You’re supposed to link your Xbox account to the arcade game with the QR code scanner next to one of the guns
Using the website since the app doesn’t work
I only ever got past the first level and half the 2nd with a single swipe, since I was with my Gf and she wanted something from the claw machine lmao. Anyways from what I seen it felt like they based the game more off the books in which one of the storylines is about some ODST and the other surviving members of the Pillar and their HQ, however if I remember correctly everyone dies on the Truth and Reconciliation or another covenant cruiser as they sacrifice themselves to blow the ship and keep the flood from escaping, this is due to Jenkins who was turned into an incomplete flood form and was able to gain control from time to time while also being completely conscious and feeling EVERYTHING the flood did to him. Also the A.I is probably the dumb A.I from the book as well.
Correct on everything except every Marine deciding ti destroy the captured Truth and Reconciliation. ODST 1Lt. Melissa McKay decided to take care of that herself since Major Silva was hell bent on returning to Earth despite the Flood being on the ship.
There's actually one at the arcade I go to on occasion
I really liked it for what is was. It was a fun experience to play through at the arcade, the sounds are all around and the music is blaring and the gun is shaking in your hands as you kill wave upon wave of Covenant. And I love Halo, so it made it all the better.
Hard to remember something you’ve never heard about until just now.
This is so cool thank you for spending your time and money to show us what the arcade game was like what a cool idea I never would have seen this otherwise
I do remember it I loved this game it’s in my local arcade and it is a pretty cool thing
Jokes on you I subconsciously think about fire team raven constantly
I really like this game! It feels like reach in a combat evolved setting
This game was my first game experience with halo at my local dave n busters in San Diego. I thank this game and the halo theme for introducing me to this awesome franchise.
Funny how you know about flood juggernauts but not about how having pure forms in ce kinda breaks the lore or that cortana wasnt the only ai on the ship or that there shouldnt be any marines in two betrayals or that the one map was in fact on forge world or that alpha base was kinda important to the human effort on the ring or that firrteam raven tried to stop the covenant from sabotaging the reactor (instead of blowing it up).
I didn’t realize it was considered a fail I loved playing it
It isn't. He's pandering to the "halos dead" crowd b
Dude i love fireteam raven, literally every time I go to Dave and busters I play through the entire game
It’s a really good game. I don’t remember anybody not liking it.
No one didn't like it. He didn't actually not like it.
He's pandering to the 343 hate in general.
11:41 Nuh uh in the lore the covenant try to stop the Master chief blow up the piller of autumn Fireteam raven is task to stop the covenant form stopping master cheif trying who to blow up the autumn
Failed? I played it in full with a friend last week, and I thought for an arcade game it was pretty awesome. I mean the game has better set pieces than fucking Halo Infinite.
So, after watching your video, I get the feeling like you don't spend much time at the arcade. Your review is fine, but ultimately lacking in direct comparisons to other modern arcade shooters. You also clearly played the game suboptimaly as you shorter yourself half your squad. My personal experience with the game was decent. Beat it fairly easily and my biggest issue was its short length and abundance of unavoidable damage.
*Man i remember playing Fireteam Raven begore i knew anything about Halo i was in a cinema playing it and it was so much fun but since i llive in mexico i dont think im going to see that arcade ever again since they move to other place but it was defenitly so much fun and i really wanna play it again*
I did this a few years ago. I went to Dave and buster's with the intent to beat this game. Luckily I saw the halo waypoint scan thing to attach my xbox account to it and to this day I have never seen anyone with the same emblem on mcc that I earned from beating the game. Great video!
One thing I noticed playing the game was that you can’t take out enemies when they’re far away you have to wait until they can start shooting you. So you can never be on the offensive you’re always getting hit and shooting whatever’s shooting you
I agree with your points but I do still love this game because it is cool to see Halo as an arcade game I also think the story is pretty good
This looks cool! I laughed when seeing chief leave the odst in the escape pod haha
I really liked it. I didnt think there was a fireteam raven anywhere near me but a mate and i just found one at an arcade
There's actually a 2 player cabinet of this just sitting in the middle of one of the halls in my local city mall. There are no other arcade cabinets anywhere else in the mall. I have no idea why it's there or how they managed to get it but even if I don't use it I appreciate seeing it there.
I've got this exact cabinet at my work and it's pretty damn popular-- i'll ever occasionally see the birth of a new pint-sized halo fan once in a while. Really don't know what you expected from an on-rails shooter in the vain of Jurassic Park. Cool side-story and getting a new perspective into HALO CE.
Fireteam Raven have dope armour
Wow, you are truly lost if you believe cortana was the *only* ai on the pillar of autumn. Cortana was the only *smart* ai onboard.
For me every time Master Chief showed up and did something cool I would think, "That's how cool I looked playing Halo Combat Evolved"
Edit: Just wanted to add the reason they want to destroy it over the covenant is because the covenant doesn't know about Earth's existence yet, its not worth the risk of them scavenging it. Also since Cortana isn't on the ship she can't wipe all archives, map data, or info of/about Earth.
I actually saw this game in two water parks I visited, in their arcades. It seems to be getting around, from what I've seen.
I played this at a D&B with my two brothers and my gf (who doesn’t play shooters at all). We had a great time and managed to finish the full story without having to spend much extra (I think it ended up being around $10-12 per person?). Maybe we had an advantage because we were a full team of four, but either way it was a really cool experience and we remember it as our favorite game from D&B.
I completely forgot about Fireteam Raven until I signed up for the Halo Infinite flights. One of the sections asked which Halo games you have played. I thought, easy I can check off all of these games. Then I found Fireteam Raven as one of the items and realized that I hadn't played all of the Halo games yet. So I did some research and found several arcades with the game. Overall I agree with your take on the game. I think it is just good for a dumb fun kind of a game. I don't have much experience with on rail shooters, so I don't know how it compares to other games of the same style. I just enjoyed the game because I looked for all of the tokens that nodded to Halo. I've played through all of the missions a couple times with different groups of friends and we generally enjoyed the experience, but it sucks that it's pricey. The trick is to find an arcade that charges less per "token." Dave and Busters is notorious for charging a little more than other arcades. I found this one arcade that legit charges 1 nickel per token and they had the Halo machine lol. Way cheaper. Also I've heard 343i has their own machine in their office and that one is free to play. I only got the Halo Waypoint QR code scanner to work once. Every other time has failed me, which sucks. I think the machine's scanners are just cheap and fail easily.
Cortana was not the only on ship AI, she was the first on ship AI that was capapable of being plugged into a foot soldier. They even say "all the capabilities of an on ship AI in a soldier on the ground."
Now you should do a blindfold run
* *evil laughter* *
It was pretty ok to good. The best way to explain it is I went “oh look a Halo cabinet, oh this is pretty fun for like 5+ minutes,” then I went and played the Cabella’s Deer Hunter, a way to not kill deae but still piss off Peta.
I played fire team raven for the first time a few months ago, and it was a lot of fun for an on rails arcade shooter! I was in a 4 player variant and was the only person to stay in through the entire game, with kids and their parents sometimes jumping in to play a level or two.
I loved fireteam raven and unless im missing something i cant fathom how it took 70 dollars for you to beat it with two players it took me 4 deaths (1 for me 3 for my partner) and i had a great time with it and i always point it out whenever i see one.
Yea that’s either way off or they’re just really bad. Between me and my friend in a 2 player cabinet (maybe 4 players had something to do with it?) we spent around $20 or $25, definitely no more than $30. And that was with each of us dying once or twice in each level. What’s cool is the end of each level scores each player based on their performance, which makes it competitive and motivates everyone to try their best which also helps save money. I get a sense these guys weren’t keeping track of their reloading and which enemies were more immediately dangerous, they weren’t engaged enough with it.
it's quite literally a skill issue.
My biggest complaint about Halo Fireteam Raven was that I could never find a cabinet locally.
I was just on google and I think 1-2 Arcades in my city still have it, neither of which are close to me.
There are so many art styles clashing together in this game. It's so uncanny.
For an arcade game, I'm surprised by how much blood is shown. I'm not complaining, but I'm definitely surprised. My friend Caleb and myself played through the entire game in 1 sitting and thoroughly enjoyed it.
PS. At 5:20, in the novelization of the first Halo game, ODST's had orders to evacuate Marines and Navy personnel while protecting the reactor of the Autumn on its way down to the ring. That's a plausible reason for Chief to "leave behind" our group of ODST's.
I defo never forgot about it because there's an arcade in the mall just down the road from me that has this game there
I think that you are being a bit too harsh on the fun factor, BUT it is definitely expensive. Ive played all of it and I enjoyed it. It was neat seeing so much more of stuff that “happened during CE”. Also I am not a huge Rail Arcade shooter fan and I think that my 2 player Booth I played at cost like $20-$30 total not $70😅
This Aracde Machine was in the nearby Mall's Arcade Area.
I remember going solo and with my sister and lasted in the middle of the first mission.
I would like to imagine the suicide mission was a sacrifice.
In lore, a single flood spore can also infect anything with a nervous system. So they probably knew they were infected long before. So instead of just accepting it, they decided to go out with a bang. Almost literally.
My best friend and I did this game from beginning to end on a day where it was free non-ticket arcade games, we spent 4 HOURS playing this game front to back, and as veterans of the Bungie Halos we found it enjoyable but repetitive at times, and being the only 1 of us who had a Halo Waypoint account I was able to get a pretty neat little profile badge for playing and beating this game.
This Arcade game was the one thing me and my friends at AIT over in Fort Lee Virgina that we did over our weekends (Spents a good amount of money getting through the game)
My friend and I spotted tried this game once. We didn't really like it because the high difficulty means there isn't really a way to avoid damage and his gun didn't seem to be calibrated properly.
I stopped playing Halo because I went from 360 to PS4 and seeing/playing Fireteam Raven is what caused me to finally buy an Xbone to play MCC which reignited a since unending Halo Obsession…
So I think about Fireteam Raven quite frequently.
The area you didn’t recognize is a remake of an area from an early Halo 1 demo which is a super cool touch.
Also blowing up the ship alone wouldn’t create the same chain reaction that Master Chief made to blow up the Halo.
only ever found it once
its super hard to find one in the UK especially since arcades arent common here either
but i played a few levels and never forgot the shake that gun has when you pull the trigger, so fun
Everyone liked the game and remembers it. Just because a new flagship Halo title releases, doesn't mean everyone forgets the last one lmao. It's an "on-rails" arcade game there's definitely not much to do compared to the rest of the Halo games especially Infinite. Anyone with common sense will put 2 and 2 together. No one forgot about it, it's just a been-there done-that situation.
15:02 343 products that aren't mcc in a nutshell
My Dave and busters actually has this, I've played it almost every time we have went. It's genuinely pretty fun with a group of friends
Master Chief: * nods at me *
Me: I choose to accept this as canon.
Flew back to my hometown 2 weeks ago and some friends and I played this. We only made it 4 missions through and we had to quit. I wish we would have finished but at that cost, not worth it! I've always been a huge Halo fan too
I remember beating an Aliens arcade shooter with my dad at a friend's birthday party when I was a kid. And it "only" took us about $30-$40.
The Master Chief is detonating the pillar of autumns reactor, the covenant and trying to prevent that by destroying the ship.
there's a movie theater in the general area around where I live, and it's got a full arcade and gastropub connected to it, and it has a fireteam raven machine. really fun, super good
Oh snap! I'm at that dave and busters often to play ddr. Sad I didn't run into you guys. Hope you enjoyed it!!!
It's an on rails shooter based on halo. It does what it's supposed to do no reason to think it's been forgotten lol
Okay I can actually get why fire team raven would wanna stop the covenant from just dismantling the pillar of autumn, since chief is trying to destabilise the reactor to make a makeshift nuke
Always love your videos!