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In 1978 or so I was given his complete works at that point. LotR, Hobbit, Silmarillion and a couple of others. I was told the same thing that it was a 'hard read' with the most common comments being "Soo many similar sounding names, similarly sounding places. A lot of characters." All of which made me want to read it more. I finally came up with the idea to read the Appendices! Not just one of them, all of them that were available in the books! Read them 2 and a half times and I couldn't take it anymore! The people, the things, the places where beyond anything I expected! So I dove into "The Silmarillion" - please note that if you read it - it is a collection of stories! I read the Silmarillion, The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings at least 20 times now, but haven't read them since 1986. The Rankin-Bass animated ones 'movies' are the best; saw them in 1979. Loved them till Peter Jackson brought LotR to life! Please note that for the first movie the characters say some of the titles from the book! Awesome touch! FYI: When the Ring Wraith is above the hobbits, with the insects crawling away from him and onto the hobbits, it's supposed to convey the fact that they are soo evil that not even insects want to be near it. UGG! You're job is to link us to you to the movie through your reactions. Trying to figure out who actors are is 'some what normal' but not necessary to the reaction. Adding graphics from other movies breaks any link you have with your audience; needless to say any emoji's etc. has the same effect. Each and every movie is a universe unto it's own; your reactions should be fixed on this movie. Why? Most of us have seen this countless times and seen tonnes of movies! Yes Bilbo AKA Sir Ian Holm Cuthbert was Ash from "Alien" (1979)... Innately 'we' (97.248197 percent of us) know that fact and how good an actor Ian is, but now you've brought a hated character into beloved 'mostly peaceful' character and thereby breaking any link you may have had. UGG! A clip of someone hitting another with a mop? YIKES! UGG! Another one... It may seem fine and/or fun for you and that's your choice. Itself is making me not wanting to watch part 2 and no like.
@@Lord_Legolas_Greenleaf 26 in total - Hobbit [1937] LOTR: Fellowship( 1954) Two Towers (1954) Return of the King (1955) Silmarillion (1977) Unfinished Tales (1980),Children of Húrin (2007) Beren and Lúthien (2017) The Fall of Gondolin (2018) The History of Middle-earth (12 volumes, published between 1983-1996): - The Book of Lost Tales, Part One (1983) - The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (1984) - The Lays of Beleriand (1985) - The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986) - The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987) - The Return of the Shadow (1988) - The Treason of Isengard (1989) - The War of the Ring (1990) - Sauron Defeated (1992) - Morgoth's Ring (1993) - The War of the Jewels (1994) - The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996) I apologize for the confusion. "Laws and Customs of the Eldar" was actually first published as a part of "Morgoth's Ring" in the year 1993. However, it was later re-published as a separate book with the same title in 2018, edited by Christopher Tolkien. I missed “The Lay of Leithien" which is an ancient style long narrative poem by J.R.R. Tolkien, which tells the story of Beren and Lúthien, one of the great love stories of Middle-earth. Other stories were included in it too which helps us glean so much more information on what else was happening in that era in a more satisfying way. The poem was initially written in the 1920s and 1930s, and was later revised and expanded by Tolkien over the years. It was eventually published posthumously in the book "The Lays of Beleriand" as part of "The History of Middle-earth" series in 1985.
After seeing what that ring did to everyone else, you realise how much willpower it took for Bilbo to let it go.Virtually no one had been able to do that before him.
At 17:35 you ask, "Are those safe to eat, though? They're foodies--they would know!" Tolkien writes, "Hobbits have a passion for mushrooms, surpassing the greediest likings of Big People." The corresponding chapter in the book is titled, "A Short-cut to Mushrooms," which explains the dialogue here.
19:15 that full-sized horse was not about to attempt a jump onto a wooden hobbit sized raft floating away from it. There's no possible way that ends well.
That, and also the fact that the Nazgul are most definitely wearing armor under those cloaks. Imagine if the horse jumps, misses, and plunges straight into the water? It's gonna be REAL hard to swim in all that armor.
As a horseman, you are totally right. The horse might refuse the jump as they are pretty sensible about such things. Might have been fun to see the hobbits on the opposite end of the raft get launched into the air though.
@@rimasmuliolis1136 The Nazgul are averse to water and fire, which is why they shied away from the rivers and the torches. They can force themselves against it, but they don't like it. Water is the stuff of life, and fire destroys, both good and evil.
@@wawaweweb1811 Honestly I think even very bold eventers (both the horse and human halves of the equation, lol) would be hesitant to tackle that jump, especially in the dark with wet planks underfoot... and I somehow doubt the Ringwraiths are schooling that kind of water question often enough for their horses to be confident even in full daylight with dry footing. Now that you mention the possible catapult effect that almost seems a shame!
At 35:50, the words of the Black Speech Gandalf is chanting is the inscription on the One Ring. Tolkien writes, "The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears." The movie's version is spot on.
Aw, what a fun reaction! Putting the puzzle pieces together without trying to guess every little thing that comes next! I love it when it seems like reactors get drawn in and just enjoy the adventure...
I like how everyone assumes the Nazgul cant touch water because that one scene in the ferry where they wouldnt jump in a deep river with 50+lbs of armor and an armored horse. They cant walk on water so they would sink lol. At Rivendell they hesitated because they are in Elrond's kingdom and his ring allows him to control the water there
This was the most enthusiastic and funniest reaction of LOTR I've ever seen 😂 thanks for this entertainment) Subscribed and looking forward for more of middle-earth reactions!
"The CG is really good in this." That's because it's not CGI. Almost everything, except certain backgrounds and large armies and large battles, was literally hand-crafted from practical effects to actual gear made by actual blacksmiths. Peter Jackson and his WETA workshop partners were adamant on a trilogy based in a "believable world" on a scale that will possibly never happen ever again which meant hand-crafting everything. They had hundreds of swords, armour parts and medieval combat gear made by artisans for years. Like 75%-80% of what you see in the movie is practical effects and legitimate gear. Even the Nazgul are just costumes. Gollum, the Balrog and a handful of other very specific characters are the only fully CGI entities in the trilogy. I really wish they made a movie about the war of wrath and Morgoth with this level of insanity though.
At 23:10, in his Prologue, "Concerning Hobbits," which we saw Bilbo writing, Tolkien writes, "Their faces were as a rule good-natured rather than beautiful, broad, bright-eyed, red-cheeked, with mouths apt to laughter, and to eating and drinking. And laugh they did, and eat, and drink, often and heartily, being fond of simple jests at all times, and of six meals a day (when they could get them)."
I read the trilogy to my boys as bedtime stories, along with The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, The Earth sea trilogy, etc. I was the daughter of a military father. Books were my constant friends growing up. No matter what country, language or culture surrounded me I always had a best friend in a book, until I made human ones at the new posting. 😊
The song Aragorn sings has huge importance! Here is the full version: “The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen; Of stars in shadow shimmering, Tinnúviel was dancing there, To music of a pipe unseen And light of stars was in her hair; And in her raiment glimmering There Beren came from mountains cold; And lost he wandered under leaves; And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves; And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves; And her hair like shadow following Enchantment healed his weary feet; That over hills were doomed to roam And forth he hastened, strong and fleet; And grasped at moonbeams glistening Through woven woods in Elven-home; She lightly fled on dancing feet And left him lonely still to roam; In the silent forest listening; He heard there oft the flying sound Of feet as light as linden-leaves Or music welling underground; In hidden hollow quavering; Now withered lay the hemlock-sheaves And one by one with sighing sound Whispering fell the beachen leaves; In the wintry woodland wavering He sought her ever, wandering far Where leaves of years were thickly strewn By light of moon and ray of star; In frosty heavens shivering Her mantle glinted in the moon; As on a hill-top high and far She danced, and at her feet was strewn A mist of silver quivering When winter passed, she came again And her song released the sudden spring, Like rising lark, and falling rain; And melting water bubbling; He saw the elven-flowers spring About her feet, and healed again He longed by her to dance and sing Upon the grass untroubling Again she fled, but swift he came Tinnúviel ! , Tinnúviel ! He called her by her elvish name And there she halted listening One moment stood she, and a spell His voice laid on her: Beren came And doom fell on Tinúviel That in his arms lay glistening As Beren looked into her eyes Within the shadows of her hair The trembling starlight of the skies He saw there mirrored shimmering Tinnúviel the elven-fair Immortal maiden elven-wise About him cast her shadowy hair And arms like silver glimmering Long was the way that fate them bore O'er stony mountains cold and grey Through halls of ireon and darkling door, And woods of nightshade morrowless The Sundering Seas between them lay And yet at last they met once more And long ago they passed away In the forest singing sorrowless” The true elvish version is far greater and so full of beauty & nuanced mournful sadness that’s break the hearts of mortals from its beauty and sadness so the true song has been sort of taboo and the mannish tongues that retell it is stated to only be a shadow beneath the tree of the true story! (A clip of it is in the original definitive version though. Viggo Mortenson who plays Aragorn designed the melody and style himself and wished it to sound Celtic in nature.) I recommend reacting to the cover done by Clamavi De Profundis and Tolkien Ensemble after the trilogy is finished and even “How Howard Shore Used Voices”. You’ll see just how deep it went. The lore itself went into the musics lyrics. Using the languages within middle earth. So even when stuff couldn’t be put in they found other ways to highly reference it via the music. It ties in all the themes at the very end in a very profound way. The thumbnail image for it is Galadriel and the image has a blue tint.
13:50 😂😂😂😂 Iv seen probably 35+ LOTR reactions and finding completely new thoughts/assumptions will never get old. NEVER would I have thought Sam got turned into a HORSE IM DEAD but like I totally see how that could have made sense for a moment 😂
They “invented” a lot of the CGI that was used, particularly the battle scenes. Because of that they understood the limitations and worked within them. Nowadays they use CGI to cut back on practical effects and this shows in films. The art of Peter Jackson was in knowing when “less is more”, letting his technicians and his actors work in reality, rather than sending it off to the computers as soon as his imagination ran out.
I mean, you're right in that lots of practical effects were used, but I think saying that CGI was at a minimum is a bit of a disservice. There's still a LOT of CGI to create the illusion of Middle Earth
That’s not true at all. Weta DIGITAL is the name of the effects company that was actually created for this franchise. They pioneered a lot of CGI techniques that are still currently used in modern films. There’s a TON of CGI in these movies, it’s just done well
I read the hobbit when i was 7 and the lord of the rings when i was 8. The book of the fellowship of the ring is a bit of a slow read so i abandoned that and read the two towers and the return of the king before returning to the fellowship of the ring. Now, as an adult, i reread the books regularly and the fellowship is my favourite. None of the lord of the rings books are a hard read but fellowship is a little bit of a slog - until you realise the importance of everything in the first book. The hobbit is really a kid’s book and you can knock that over in a day, easy. The number of rings for each race was based on how many kingdoms each race had. 7 kingdoms of dwarves, 9 of men, 3 of elves (important elves, anyway - wood elves didnt really count because they were a bit wild).
I first read The Hobbit in 1st grade & immediately moved to FotR. I gave up after a couple of chapters & reread the Hobbit. After a second reading of The Hobbit I tried FotR & made it all of the way through the LotR. It took me a couple of goes to get through The Silmarillion, as well. I reread The Silmarillion regularly.
@@davidcardoso3525Tales Of The Rings brought it all to life with the most awesome narration and animations. Council of the rings did awesome self animated and voiced re writes to overwrite the horrid Amazon show. Two episodes already. Silmarillion soundtrack did awesome as well. Even did Fëanor’s oath and that voice was earth shatteringly good!
My parents gave me The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings for Christmas in 1965. I've read them many times since (as well as every other book by or about Tolkien that I could find). The movie is great. The books even better.
The majority of the film was shot in New Zealand. It was a HUGE thing for the country. Additionally, the hobbit village of Hobbiton is still standing and you can visit it and see the homes and fields.
I love the novels, they are so poetic and gives a very Old English epic feel. Honestly some of the passages are very beautiful and still bring tears to my eyes when listening to them on audio books (Which I try to do once every few years). The movie is quite different in a few regards but did a great job of capturing the emotional bits and major themes.
At 26:05, the Morgul-knife turned to dust in Strider's hand. In the book, the point was broken off. Later in the story, Gandalf explains to Frodo, "They tried to pierce your heart with a Morgul-knife which remains in the wound. If they had succeeded, you would have become like they are, only weaker and under their command. You would have become a wraith under the dominion of the Dark Lord, and he would have tormented you for trying to keep his Ring, if any greater torment were possible than being robbed of it and seeing it on his hand."
Some *very* brief background on the rings. The 16 rings for the Dwarves and Men were created first, although they were originally meant for the Elves. Sauron eventually distributes them to the leaders of the Seven Dwarf clans and nine kings/leaders of Men, trying to corrupt them into becoming his slaves through the One. This works with the Men, who become the Nazgul - the Ringwraiths, the greatest of Sauron's servants. The Dwarves do become corrupted - they become greedier, but they prove too hardy and stubborn to be completely bent to Sauron's will. The Three Elven Rings were created separately, after the other 16. So while Sauron knows about their existence, he doesn't know where they are or who has them. It's also worth noting that Gandalf likely DID know Bilbo had a magic ring, but he probably didn't suspect it to be a Ring of Power, let alone the One Ring. He only started to suspect it might be a Ring of Power when he comments how Bilbo hadn't "aged a day." Then Bilbo's comment about it being "my precious." By the time he comes back to the Shire and throws the ring in the fireplace, he probably already knows it's the One, but only when Frodo confirms seeing the script on the band does he truly confirm it.
Expanding on this - All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
The voice at the beginning is Galadriel - Older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world. she’s mainly Vanyar+Teleri. Galadriel is one of the Calaquendi, meaning "Elves of the Light" in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. Highly synonymous with the the Vanyar Elves. ❤️ they are closest and most trusted by the Valar. They are the epitome of the truest exalted potential of ElvenKind. There is an entire set of clans of elves with variously different histories depending on when they branched off from the main three. Noldor, Teleri>Sindar (and Vanyar (of which Galadriel is of this branch more than her Noldorin side.) She is of the Calaquendi. Means The elves of light in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. They are the exalted living ideal version of what the elves were meant to be like in this version of the world before Melkor/Morgoth’s poisonous malice poisoned and damaged the world to where it’s been slowly bleeding it’s magic away for thousands of years. It’s why everything is dying outside of Lothlórien & Rivendell. The rest of the elves are Nandor, Silvan, Falathrim which I think are those of the Falmari… Umanyar, & Avari & more. Moriquendi are the original elves long before ever living in Valinor. Waking to the stars by the Cuivienen River. The elves origins is shrouded in mist. Just like their ethereal existence that’s connected to the earth itself and it’s fate. Oromë (one of the Valar.) called them Eldar, that means "People of the Stars", the Elves that chose to follow him, because when they awoke the stars were the only lights in the sky and for this reason they loved Varda and her creations
It doesn't really matter much now, since you already watched the whole Fellowship, but I feel like you judged Boromir too harshly here. I've always thought that he simply had the disadvantage of being introduced later than Strider/Aragorn which means 90% of reactors dismiss everything Boromir says and treat him like an enemy. But imagine this - it's been hundreds of years and your country has managed without a king, then you're told some guy that you know nothing about is supposed to be the king. You would probably react the same way Boromir did ;) Overall I enjoyed your reaction, because you were so inquisitive about the plot, but it's too bad you didn't analyse Boromir too much; he's a human after all, much like us :) Have fun watching the next two movies!
Wraiths are afraid of water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, & Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda. They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body. They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so. The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths “Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth dhaer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer.” This “spell” is in Sindarin so it Remains in true Tolkiens spirit! Despite the exact line was only for the movies - English : “Waters of the Misty Mountains, hear the word of power; Rush, waters of Bruinen, against the Ringwraiths!” Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature. Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close. when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth. - “Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.” Ulmo ain't no pushover. Only the evil Men under Sauron's dominion willingly traverse and enter any large body of water. It's of course not mentioned in the movies, but the reason is that Sauron and his servants are afraid of Ulmo, his power, and stay away from water. Sauron surpasses Morgoth in a way, since he actually amassed fleets in his service and gained dominion over the sea in that fashion. Ulmo is the reason Elrond has the power to release the flood at all; unless - of course - they've got a whole sophisticated dam-setup going on. The Brandywine is - I suppose - too deep and wide for them, and I'm guessing their forms of nothingness can't withstand any water that Ulmo hasn't completely withdrawn from. Probably something to do with the songs of creation that inhabit all the waters of Middle Earth. Nazgul's horses are most likely undead, that is to say that they have horse's bodies but dark spirits inhabit them now instead. If they were normal horses, they would never consent to bear a ringwraith in the first place- they would immediately fly into a panic, because the nazgul "fill all living things with an instinctive dread".
CG and CG! were in their infancy when The Fellowship of the Ring was made. It was mostly live locations and large-scale miniatures. The orcs were not CGI; they were actually practical makeup.
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition: (1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition (2) The Two Tower Extended Edition (3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
The Shire was a region of fertile farmlands given to the Hobbits by the Northern Kingdom ( The Dunedin, or Men of the West ) 400 years before it fell. The Witch King of Angmar divided and caused civil disputes and sent plagues to weaken them before overthrowing the area. The region was depopulated by war and disease and the only condition of the settlement was that the Hobbits maintained section of The Great East-West road and its bridges where it ran across The Shire's Northern border. Early records of the Hobbies say that a troop of archers were sent to assist the King but we're never seen again. The Shire Reckoning dates from year one of their occupation of the area, and that was roughly 1500 years on the Common Calendar that dates the beginning of the Third Age from the time of the Last Alliance of Men and Elves. So this story is set at the last years of the Third Age of Middle Earth 3,000 years ago or 1500-ish of The Shire Reckoning. An appendix is available that gives an accurate timeline. The Tale of the Years, I think. Hobbits are counted as an offshoot of Men but their lifecycle is different. They are not considered fully adult until the age of 33. They are very skilled at hiding from the Big People and if a Hobbit throws something it will hit its target. It's not unusual for a Hobbit to live to be 100 years old or more but, like us, they grow frail in their bodies and minds as they age.Bilbo's lasting vigor combined with his uncharacteristic behavior is what made Gandalf suspicious that ring might be the One. Bilbo adopted Frodo when his parents, who lived in Buckland East of the Brandywine River were drowned in a boating accident. The " Uncle " is honorific. Bilbo was seeking an heir with the Baggins name and he and Frodo are third cousins. They also shared the same birthday. On the day of the party Frodo turned 33. Bilbo had put off leaving The Shire until Frodo could own Bag End free and clear --along with its contents. The movie doesn't cover this part of the timeline; it would have confused the audience, but Gandalf spent 17 years studying the ring and tracking how it came into Gollum's possession. He opted to leave it in The Shire in any case, as it was hidden for 60 years quite safely. The only effect it seemed to have on Bilbo was the compulsion to leave The Shire, never thinking Bilbo could leave it behind. Frodo was 50 when he left The Shire. His possession of the ring still gave him the appearance of a Hobbit that was barely an adult. Samwise Gamgee's family had worked as gardeners and domestics for the Baggins family for three generations. Sam was the youngest son and Bilbo half raised him, teaching Sam to read because he was very interested in stories about the Elves as a lad. And Bilbo wanted him to be able to read his books and poetry about them. Sam was in his late 30s when he accompanied Frodo to Rivendale. Meriadoc Brandybuck ( Merry ) is Frodo's first cousin and the eldest son of The Master of Buckland, East of the Brandywine River. He was 37 when he and Peregrine Took ( Pippin ) found Frodo, their cousin and friend setting out on a dangerous journey with only Sam for company. Pippin Took was the eldest son of The Thain of the Shire, something between a chieftain and a king, and at 29 is still very much an adolescent. Both he and Merry threw their futures to the wind for Frodo.
2:42 The reason they needed to just cut off the ring from Sauron is, that Sauron already lost his physical form in past, the ring was sustaining his physical existence.
Saruan, in the guise of an elf, taught them the art of ringmaking. The elves made the nineteen rings, but found out Saruans evil plans and snatched three rings before he touched and corrupted them. Saruans plans for the rings was largely a bust, the elves' rings were clean and not corrupted at all. The dwarfs rings didn't corrupt them so much as made them greedy and distrustful of others. They caused the destruction of Dwarfish civilization by attracting dragons. Only in men did the plan truly work.
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Wow, at the end, you grazed something only covered in the book. The nine companions of the fellowship were indeed chosen to mirror the nine ring wraiths. Very astute observation.
@@Wae2Reel Oh no, not at all. what you get in the Lord of the rings movies is highly abridged and reshuffled a bit. But we are talking about a book series that is 1,178 pages long, not to mention the Hobbit which the lord of the rings is the sequel to. or the Silmarillion which is another 900 pages there are so many characters that are not even mentioned like tom Bombadil, Glorfindal, and several cut adventures like escaping the barrow wrights. personally i have never actually finished reading the books myself, It's difficult for me to follow Tolkien's writing style and sometimes i just get bored reading it. For example, the longest chapter in the book "The council of Elrond" Is 15,000 words and consists of catching up with what everyone has been doing so far, lore dumping about he one ring and then deciding what to actually do with the ring. It is in my opinion NOT for novice readers.
He does in the book. Yet, the outcome is a little different. Frodo falls off of a table while he is singing and the ring maneuvers itself onto his finger as he falls.
When Isildor refuses to throw the Ring into the chasm of Mt. Doom, Everyone says: "Just Kill him". 1) That's a pretty stupid response to almost every problem. 2) Not even Elrond could have thrown it into the fire. Tolkien said no one could have voluntarily destroyed the Ring. 3) That's not the situation that Tolkien wrote about in the book. In the book Isildor has decided to take the Ring to Elrond for him to keep it safe, on the way he is waylaid by orcs and put's it on. The Ring then does betray him and slips off his finger and he is killed.
The book "The Similarians" was a very hard read. The lord of the rings and The Hobbit are great reads and many of us had to read these books in junior high for school.
The "seeing stones" corrupt more than just Sauramon, Denethor (in chapters 2,3) has one (not shown in the movie) and goes completely mad from the mind control of Sauron.
The cast and crew all lived in New Zealand for more than 18 months to film the whole series, despite the 3 chapters being released a year apart from each other.
Yeah, love the book, but its a hard pivot from LOTRs to "and thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me". He went full biblical with that one, lol
The Silmarillion reads like the mythology books I used to love as a kid, or the Bible. Written in a very archaic style that fits. Modern people aren't patient enough for such writing, though.
@@rikk319 Honestly, I found the Silm a way easier read than the Bible. It's in the _style_ of the Bible (i.e. short episodic recountings of the mythological origins of the earth) but the writing itself isn't all that difficult... maybe except for "Of Beleriand and its Realms" lol
Hobbits have more resistance to the lure of the Ring. Maybe because they were not one of the races that were given the lesser rings, Men, Elves, Dwarves. Maybe because they tend to desire more simple things than power.
The more power you have, the more the Ring has an advantage to corrupt you. The humble resist its powers best. No surprise hobbits are the best at carrying it.
The elves weren’t given theirs. All were meant for the elves though! All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
"He turned him into a horse?" I laughed out loud when I heard this. But looking at it now, I'm wondering if that was intended. Showing the silhouette of Gandalf, Frodo, and the horse, but not Sam, seems like an obvious misdirect. A brief bit of humor after the tense exposition scene.
In book; Isildur NEVER succumbs to The One Ring, instead spends time being a fair ruler, gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy! * He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro. * • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse). Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good. * They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself. They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars ! Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am) This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations? People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc. (JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth. Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work. Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.
The books are not difficult to read. The Silmarillion is, but not LotR. Also, you don't become instantly corrupt once the ring is 'yours' you have to wear it all the time for that to happen...
Looking forward to this! I will say that the books aren't to everyone's tastes but they're also not necessarily hard to read, or follow, either. I know fans who fell in love with them during bedtime story time at ages as young as five or six. Irrelevant but fun fact about Hobbits: for girls' names, flowers and gemstones are popular... but their tastes are meant to be a little weird to English readers, so along with Rose, Lily, Daisy, Rowan, Ruby, Pearl and Esmeralda, the family trees in the books' Appendices are full of names like Diamond, Asphodel, Celandine, Eglantine, Lobelia and Amaranth!
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
@@Wae2Reeland there is a movie covering that and presumably what else has been going on in the years prior as well as a backdrop. And to show more things that were going on during this time that wasn’t put into the trilogy ! Hunt For Gollum!
On my computer, to my old ears, there was too great a discrepancy in volume between your voices and the characters in the movie. One cannot follow along in the movie if one can't hear the dialogue. Otherwise a very nice reaction.
1:36 Hahaha CGI ? :D What CGI? They are all real make-up and real shots..Thousands of people did make up and tons of costumes Not much CGI :D You guys dont know anything about the productions of this trilogy
As others have already commented, there is an annoyingly large difference in sound volume between your voices, and the movie itself. In your subsequent videos, could you try to balance the sound levels please?
@@Wae2Reel You'll like the details, then: Viggo and Jane Abbott had become friends, and he found out she wanted to buy Florian. It wasn't going to happen because he was going to be expensive, and anyway, another production member with a lot more sway wanted him. Viggo was already buying his own horse anyhow, so he offered to try to use his influence to get Jane's horse too. He broke the good news with a voicemail: "Florian's yours! You can pick him up at the farm any time". Jane understandably assumed Viggo had been acting as her agent so she asked what she owed him and he went "No, I told you I'd try to get him for you and that's what I did. He's yours." He'd seen the two of them work together a lot and he felt, given the horse's personality, that it was in Florian's best interests for Jane to have him long-term. Viggo being, well, Viggo, he just... went ahead and made it happen. (Of everyone interviewed for the DVDs' special features, Jane Abbott gets by far the most emotional... and it's when she talks about Viggo and Florian.)
I'm with those who admire your association of the actors with other roles and I don't blame you for not recognizing John Rhys Davies, who played Gimli the Dwarf. His other big role was Sallah, Indiana Jones' friend. Can you believe he's 6'1"?
23:31 is the love story of an elf maiden luthian and the a mortal man beren this was the first ever elf and man couple in middle earth beren was badly wounded in a fight against a werewolf of sauron named gorgorath and he later died of his wounds and gorgorath was also killed in the same fight by a hound named Huan who was a loyal friend of luthian and beren luthian also died in the sorrow and grief of her beloved beren
There were several others besides those two. Idril and Tuor had Eärendil which is Elrond’s father! Elwing & Eärendil, Andreth & Aegnor! Mithrellas & Imrazôr, as well as Túrin and Finduilas!
In defense of Isildur: The ring was bloating his ego calling him master and he literally did just watch the big bad explode into a pile of coal and armor. Not to mention the level of desperation that the ring had when it was right on that cliff over the fire.
Rings are less powerful the more of them they are, the eleven rings were made by the elves and never held by anyone else. Sharon helped with the making of the dwarf and men rings, when he disguised himself as the Lord of gifts. You get to see all three elven ring bearers in fellowship
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
"All they had to do was cut off his finger?" Actually, no. In the book Sauron is slayed by the combined efforts of those Kings and Elves you see him fighting - also, he is not a giant but he is a powerful evil wizard and taking him down was no easy task. It killed Isildur's father. However, as the now destroyed body of Sauron lay on the battlefield, Isildur went over and picked up his father's broken sword and cut the ring from Sauron's lifeless hand. Only Elrond saw him do this and only Elrond knew that Isildur had taken the One Ring for himself.
Um, no. Goldberry in the book is Tom Bombadil's wife, and he calls her "River-man's daughter"...that is, a spirit of the Withywindle River, which flows through the Old Forest, and thence into the Baranduin (Brandywine).
Ok Dwarves and Elves have had an animosity dating back 10k years, the elves used to hunt dwarves for sport then every time the two races tried to mend the fences Dwarvish greed would destroy it.
Fun fact Hobbiton where Frodo Sam Merry and Pippin live is actually real they built the village a year before they started shooting the movies and it still exists you can go visit it
The novels were harder to read and seemed rather dry and unemotional. However, after watching the movies, then I really love the books because they have much more detail, and in my imagination I have the feelings from the movies, so it works well. I love the movies!
You kidding? They are rich with such emotional depth beyond the grasp of people belonging to instant gratification society and so forth. Lol. How many have you tried? There are 25. Start with the hobbit. Then check out Tolkien Untangled and TheRedBook and or GirlNextGondor or CluelessFangirl for example! Or even the awesome ThePhilosophersGames. MenOfTheWest is great too. Best animations with voice overs from tons of the book bring it all to life by Tales Of The Ring ! ❤
Phil Dragash fills that gap for people like you! It merges the movie vibe with the actual books as he brings every character to life to where you don’t imagine it’s all his voice. Spotify has entire playlists. Each book of the trilogy is split into two parts.
@@Makkaru112 The dryness was my initial experience, but I've since read the books many, many times and love them, including the Silmarillion, so you are preaching to the converted ; ) I totally agree that there is a rich depth in Tolkien's approach to human nature, especially the nature of good and evil.
The One Ring definitely corrupts its wearer; it has a "partner in crime," too -- the Palantir, the Seeing Stone. Through it, Sauron has been able to corrupt Saruman! Those Nazgul are already dead; they cannot die further ... or did Tolkien kill them off again "in the books"? Arwen got cut on the cheek by a tree bough. Nazgul NOT "afraid" of water; river is boundary to Elven territory, so the Black Riders were being "cautious."
The seven palantiri were not a creation of Sauron--they were made in Valinor, probably by Feanor. They were gifts to the Faithful of Numenor by elves who were friends of those loyal humans. Elendil was their chief, and he ended up using them in strategic places in Arnor and Gondor, for observation of the two kingdoms.
Saruman never served Sauron nor bent to him at all in the books. The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript-C) The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund in the duel of visions, (Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The Long Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west. Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands. So him also being a student and helper of Aulë of the Valar he was going to fight fire with fire and make a bid for the ring just so Sauron could never regain full power and if Saruman found a way to release himself from his power restrictions even by any small margin or worked with Eru in some way it might have worked out in the end if things went differently enough to where such action from him would be needed. Ontop of that he was growing ever jealous of Gandalf for he received the Varya from Círdan and prior to that was chosen by the other Valar, Nienna’s chosen champion to go to middle earth. But Gandalf(Olórin back then) refused over and over and exclaimed his fear of Sauron(Mairon), varya I feel would have kindle the heart of Saruman to stay strong as he had been fighting the evils of the world for a very long time since he had been sent to Middle Earth. And for the is reason Saruman wished to hold the ring at hostage. Keep Sauron from taking back his full strength and basically use it to stave off The Long Defeat. Saruman is very complex. The Hobbit movies actually shows how he was even 60 years ago during Bilbo’s story. He was one of the main forces thwarting Sauron for over 2000 years. The Númenoreans: the high men of the west; gifted Saruman with Orthanc which was of their making. Now known as Isengard. [[Correction given to me recently to which I’ll need to double check for myself regardless: The Númenoreans didn't give Isengard to Saruman, after Helm Hammerhand died, Saruman returned from his journeys in the far east, and sort of "occupied it by friendly force", Fréaláf (the new King of Rohan) told Saruman to contact Beren (Gondor's Steward), which gladly gave Orthanc's key to the wizard (grave mistake). ]] - Saruman is actually trying to doublecross sauron and wanted Gandalf to simply help him subdue toe rings evil so they could use it to defeat Sauron together as a single duo-unit. He wants the ring for himself for what was still a noble reason. He thinks he can control it. The little orcs around saruman are from mordor - sauron's orcs sent to help saruman but also to spy on him. The big fighting orcs - the uruk hai - are loyal only to Saruman. Orcs are like that. But it’s why Saruman’s orders are a bit vague - to avoid sauron's orcs knowing what Saruman is doing. The movies dont make this bit of the story very clear. But notice that, while Saruman knows where the fellowship is he never lets Sauron Know.
I've read the novels. As with any long book with an extreme amount of detail it can be a slog to get through. You have to want to read them, really. The audiobook versions with Andy Serkis make them far more accessible.
Regarding Arwen and the wraiths - wraiths are afraid of water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, & Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda. They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body. They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so. The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths “Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth dhaer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer.” This “spell” is in Sindarin so it Remains in true Tolkiens spirit! Despite the exact line was only for the movies - English : “Waters of the Misty Mountains, hear the word of power; Rush, waters of Bruinen, against the Ringwraiths!” Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature. Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close. when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth. - “Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.” Ulmo ain't no pushover. Only the evil Men under Sauron's dominion willingly traverse and enter any large body of water. It's of course not mentioned in the movies, but the reason is that Sauron and his servants are afraid of Ulmo, his power, and stay away from water. Sauron surpasses Morgoth in a way, since he actually amassed fleets in his service and gained dominion over the sea in that fashion. Ulmo is the reason Elrond has the power to release the flood at all; unless - of course - they've got a whole sophisticated dam-setup going on. The Brandywine is - I suppose - too deep and wide for them, and I'm guessing their forms of nothingness can't withstand any water that Ulmo hasn't completely withdrawn from. Probably something to do with the songs of creation that inhabit all the waters of Middle Earth. Nazgul's horses are most likely undead, that is to say that they have horse's bodies but dark spirits inhabit them now instead. If they were normal horses, they would never consent to bear a ringwraith in the first place- they would immediately fly into a panic, because the nazgul "fill all living things with an instinctive dread".
if the novel was difficult to read, it would not have achieved success and subsequently become the foundation of the fantasy genre. someone has fed you a lie - a common thing on the Internet.(and the terminator horse line was super funny! 😅 )
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In 1978 or so I was given his complete works at that point. LotR, Hobbit, Silmarillion and a couple of others. I was told the same thing that it was a 'hard read' with the most common comments being "Soo many similar sounding names, similarly sounding places. A lot of characters." All of which made me want to read it more. I finally came up with the idea to read the Appendices! Not just one of them, all of them that were available in the books! Read them 2 and a half times and I couldn't take it anymore! The people, the things, the places where beyond anything I expected! So I dove into "The Silmarillion" - please note that if you read it - it is a collection of stories! I read the Silmarillion, The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings at least 20 times now, but haven't read them since 1986. The Rankin-Bass animated ones 'movies' are the best; saw them in 1979. Loved them till Peter Jackson brought LotR to life! Please note that for the first movie the characters say some of the titles from the book! Awesome touch! FYI: When the Ring Wraith is above the hobbits, with the insects crawling away from him and onto the hobbits, it's supposed to convey the fact that they are soo evil that not even insects want to be near it. UGG! You're job is to link us to you to the movie through your reactions. Trying to figure out who actors are is 'some what normal' but not necessary to the reaction. Adding graphics from other movies breaks any link you have with your audience; needless to say any emoji's etc. has the same effect. Each and every movie is a universe unto it's own; your reactions should be fixed on this movie. Why? Most of us have seen this countless times and seen tonnes of movies! Yes Bilbo AKA Sir Ian Holm Cuthbert was Ash from "Alien" (1979)... Innately 'we' (97.248197 percent of us) know that fact and how good an actor Ian is, but now you've brought a hated character into beloved 'mostly peaceful' character and thereby breaking any link you may have had. UGG! A clip of someone hitting another with a mop? YIKES! UGG! Another one... It may seem fine and/or fun for you and that's your choice. Itself is making me not wanting to watch part 2 and no like.
@@Lord_Legolas_Greenleaf 26 in total - Hobbit [1937] LOTR: Fellowship( 1954) Two Towers (1954) Return of the King (1955) Silmarillion (1977) Unfinished Tales (1980),Children of Húrin (2007) Beren and Lúthien (2017) The Fall of Gondolin (2018) The History of Middle-earth (12 volumes, published between 1983-1996):
- The Book of Lost Tales, Part One (1983)
- The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (1984)
- The Lays of Beleriand (1985)
- The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986)
- The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
- The Return of the Shadow (1988)
- The Treason of Isengard (1989)
- The War of the Ring (1990)
- Sauron Defeated (1992)
- Morgoth's Ring (1993)
- The War of the Jewels (1994)
- The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996)
I apologize for the confusion. "Laws and Customs of the Eldar" was actually first published as a part of "Morgoth's Ring" in the year 1993. However, it was later re-published as a separate book with the same title in 2018, edited by Christopher Tolkien.
I missed “The Lay of Leithien" which is an ancient style long narrative poem by J.R.R. Tolkien, which tells the story of Beren and Lúthien, one of the great love stories of Middle-earth. Other stories were included in it too which helps us glean so much more information on what else was happening in that era in a more satisfying way. The poem was initially written in the 1920s and 1930s, and was later revised and expanded by Tolkien over the years. It was eventually published posthumously in the book "The Lays of Beleriand" as part of "The History of Middle-earth" series in 1985.
I swear every time somebody says "Is he gonna eat it?" or "Ok now eat it!" whenever he catches the moth always makes me chuckle.
The first person I've EVER heard say, "Oh I know him from GoldenEye" instead of Game of Thrones. My man ✊🏼 lol
my man, goldeneye the best bond movie!
After seeing what that ring did to everyone else, you realise how much willpower it took for Bilbo to let it go.Virtually no one had been able to do that before him.
At 17:35 you ask, "Are those safe to eat, though? They're foodies--they would know!" Tolkien writes, "Hobbits have a passion for mushrooms, surpassing the greediest likings of Big People." The corresponding chapter in the book is titled, "A Short-cut to Mushrooms," which explains the dialogue here.
19:15 that full-sized horse was not about to attempt a jump onto a wooden hobbit sized raft floating away from it. There's no possible way that ends well.
That, and also the fact that the Nazgul are most definitely wearing armor under those cloaks. Imagine if the horse jumps, misses, and plunges straight into the water? It's gonna be REAL hard to swim in all that armor.
As a horseman, you are totally right. The horse might refuse the jump as they are pretty sensible about such things. Might have been fun to see the hobbits on the opposite end of the raft get launched into the air though.
The Nazgul are undead and would walk underwater to the other side but without the horses.
@@rimasmuliolis1136 The Nazgul are averse to water and fire, which is why they shied away from the rivers and the torches. They can force themselves against it, but they don't like it. Water is the stuff of life, and fire destroys, both good and evil.
@@wawaweweb1811 Honestly I think even very bold eventers (both the horse and human halves of the equation, lol) would be hesitant to tackle that jump, especially in the dark with wet planks underfoot... and I somehow doubt the Ringwraiths are schooling that kind of water question often enough for their horses to be confident even in full daylight with dry footing. Now that you mention the possible catapult effect that almost seems a shame!
At 35:50, the words of the Black Speech Gandalf is chanting is the inscription on the One Ring. Tolkien writes, "The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears." The movie's version is spot on.
Aw, what a fun reaction! Putting the puzzle pieces together without trying to guess every little thing that comes next! I love it when it seems like reactors get drawn in and just enjoy the adventure...
Thank you!
I like how everyone assumes the Nazgul cant touch water because that one scene in the ferry where they wouldnt jump in a deep river with 50+lbs of armor and an armored horse.
They cant walk on water so they would sink lol.
At Rivendell they hesitated because they are in Elrond's kingdom and his ring allows him to control the water there
I’ll put a comment below their video explaining why they can’t touch water and more
It's not that they can't touch it, it's more like they don't like it like a Vegan to meat.
This was the most enthusiastic and funniest reaction of LOTR I've ever seen 😂 thanks for this entertainment)
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25:24 "Oh, it's the king with the nice hair."
one way to describe The Witch-king of the Nazgûl. 😆
Angmar had the best hairdressers, it seems.
"And the boots with the fur."
Them: "No offence to Sam but I don't think he could help much."
Me:"Frodo wouldn't have gotten far without Sam."
"The CG is really good in this."
That's because it's not CGI. Almost everything, except certain backgrounds and large armies and large battles, was literally hand-crafted from practical effects to actual gear made by actual blacksmiths. Peter Jackson and his WETA workshop partners were adamant on a trilogy based in a "believable world" on a scale that will possibly never happen ever again which meant hand-crafting everything. They had hundreds of swords, armour parts and medieval combat gear made by artisans for years.
Like 75%-80% of what you see in the movie is practical effects and legitimate gear. Even the Nazgul are just costumes. Gollum, the Balrog and a handful of other very specific characters are the only fully CGI entities in the trilogy. I really wish they made a movie about the war of wrath and Morgoth with this level of insanity though.
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At 23:10, in his Prologue, "Concerning Hobbits," which we saw Bilbo writing, Tolkien writes, "Their faces were as a rule good-natured rather than beautiful, broad, bright-eyed, red-cheeked, with mouths apt to laughter, and to eating and drinking. And laugh they did, and eat, and drink, often and heartily, being fond of simple jests at all times, and of six meals a day (when they could get them)."
What a great life that would be!
I read the trilogy to my boys as bedtime stories, along with The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, The Earth sea trilogy, etc. I was the daughter of a military father. Books were my constant friends growing up. No matter what country, language or culture surrounded me I always had a best friend in a book, until I made human ones at the new posting. 😊
A familiar story can be like a warm blanket at bedtime.
All excellent books. Awesome stuff.
The song Aragorn sings has huge importance! Here is the full version: “The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen; Of stars in shadow shimmering, Tinnúviel was dancing there, To music of a pipe unseen
And light of stars was in her hair; And in her raiment glimmering
There Beren came from mountains cold; And lost he wandered under leaves; And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves; And saw in wonder flowers of gold
Upon her mantle and her sleeves; And her hair like shadow following
Enchantment healed his weary feet; That over hills were doomed to roam
And forth he hastened, strong and fleet; And grasped at moonbeams glistening
Through woven woods in Elven-home; She lightly fled on dancing feet
And left him lonely still to roam; In the silent forest listening; He heard there oft the flying sound
Of feet as light as linden-leaves
Or music welling underground; In hidden hollow quavering; Now withered lay the hemlock-sheaves
And one by one with sighing sound
Whispering fell the beachen leaves; In the wintry woodland wavering
He sought her ever, wandering far
Where leaves of years were thickly strewn
By light of moon and ray of star; In frosty heavens shivering
Her mantle glinted in the moon; As on a hill-top high and far
She danced, and at her feet was strewn
A mist of silver quivering
When winter passed, she came again
And her song released the sudden spring,
Like rising lark, and falling rain; And melting water bubbling; He saw the elven-flowers spring
About her feet, and healed again
He longed by her to dance and sing
Upon the grass untroubling
Again she fled, but swift he came
Tinnúviel ! , Tinnúviel !
He called her by her elvish name
And there she halted listening
One moment stood she, and a spell
His voice laid on her: Beren came
And doom fell on Tinúviel
That in his arms lay glistening
As Beren looked into her eyes
Within the shadows of her hair
The trembling starlight of the skies
He saw there mirrored shimmering
Tinnúviel the elven-fair
Immortal maiden elven-wise
About him cast her shadowy hair
And arms like silver glimmering
Long was the way that fate them bore
O'er stony mountains cold and grey
Through halls of ireon and darkling door,
And woods of nightshade morrowless
The Sundering Seas between them lay
And yet at last they met once more
And long ago they passed away
In the forest singing sorrowless”
The true elvish version is far greater and so full of beauty & nuanced mournful sadness that’s break the hearts of mortals from its beauty and sadness so the true song has been sort of taboo and the mannish tongues that retell it is stated to only be a shadow beneath the tree of the true story!
(A clip of it is in the original definitive version though. Viggo Mortenson who plays Aragorn designed the melody and style himself and wished it to sound Celtic in nature.)
I recommend reacting to the cover done by Clamavi De Profundis and Tolkien Ensemble after the trilogy is finished and even “How Howard Shore Used Voices”. You’ll see just how deep it went. The lore itself went into the musics lyrics. Using the languages within middle earth. So even when stuff couldn’t be put in they found other ways to highly reference it via the music. It ties in all the themes at the very end in a very profound way. The thumbnail image for it is Galadriel and the image has a blue tint.
Enjoyed watching your reactions--you are both very enthusiastic viewers! Looking forward to the next part...
Thank you! It was a fun watch and hope you like the next part!
13:50 😂😂😂😂 Iv seen probably 35+ LOTR reactions and finding completely new thoughts/assumptions will never get old. NEVER would I have thought Sam got turned into a HORSE IM DEAD but like I totally see how that could have made sense for a moment 😂
😂 they had to have edited it that way on purpose
@ you guys are hilarious what an easy sub, so looking forward to your future reactions
The version is extended, my subscription is expected.
I love watching LOTR reactions. And I have to say, you guys made me laugh more than any other. I LOVE your reactions 😂.
CGI was at a minimum … most of what you saw was done with practical effects, including costumes
They “invented” a lot of the CGI that was used, particularly the battle scenes. Because of that they understood the limitations and worked within them. Nowadays they use CGI to cut back on practical effects and this shows in films. The art of Peter Jackson was in knowing when “less is more”, letting his technicians and his actors work in reality, rather than sending it off to the computers as soon as his imagination ran out.
I mean, you're right in that lots of practical effects were used, but I think saying that CGI was at a minimum is a bit of a disservice. There's still a LOT of CGI to create the illusion of Middle Earth
That’s not true at all. Weta DIGITAL is the name of the effects company that was actually created for this franchise. They pioneered a lot of CGI techniques that are still currently used in modern films. There’s a TON of CGI in these movies, it’s just done well
And a lot of green-screen, particularly on sets dramatically smaller than they appear in the movie.
"Minimum" ... disagree
Nice to see people recognise all the previous work these actors have done.
@ don’t forget Sharpe, he was awesome as Sharpe! If you haven’t ever watched it, there is plenty knocking around in YT.
@@genevievenoble8120 it was a pleasant change!
@@alundavies1016 Now that's remembering.
I've just realized here also that Bilbo was Ash😄
but they left out most famous character, Sean "Always Die" Bean aka Ned Stark.😄
I read the hobbit when i was 7 and the lord of the rings when i was 8. The book of the fellowship of the ring is a bit of a slow read so i abandoned that and read the two towers and the return of the king before returning to the fellowship of the ring.
Now, as an adult, i reread the books regularly and the fellowship is my favourite.
None of the lord of the rings books are a hard read but fellowship is a little bit of a slog - until you realise the importance of everything in the first book.
The hobbit is really a kid’s book and you can knock that over in a day, easy.
The number of rings for each race was based on how many kingdoms each race had. 7 kingdoms of dwarves, 9 of men, 3 of elves (important elves, anyway - wood elves didnt really count because they were a bit wild).
I first read The Hobbit in 1st grade & immediately moved to FotR. I gave up after a couple of chapters & reread the Hobbit. After a second reading of The Hobbit I tried FotR & made it all of the way through the LotR. It took me a couple of goes to get through The Silmarillion, as well. I reread The Silmarillion regularly.
Wood elves connect more to the oldest elves to never leave middle earth on the great journey or stopped partway. The Avari!
@@davidcardoso3525Tales Of The Rings brought it all to life with the most awesome narration and animations. Council of the rings did awesome self animated and voiced re writes to overwrite the horrid Amazon show. Two episodes already. Silmarillion soundtrack did awesome as well. Even did Fëanor’s oath and that voice was earth shatteringly good!
My parents gave me The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings for Christmas in 1965. I've read them many times since (as well as every other book by or about Tolkien that I could find). The movie is great. The books even better.
The majority of the film was shot in New Zealand. It was a HUGE thing for the country. Additionally, the hobbit village of Hobbiton is still standing and you can visit it and see the homes and fields.
As far as I know, the entire film was shot there.
Oh that’s awesome!
I love the novels, they are so poetic and gives a very Old English epic feel. Honestly some of the passages are very beautiful and still bring tears to my eyes when listening to them on audio books (Which I try to do once every few years). The movie is quite different in a few regards but did a great job of capturing the emotional bits and major themes.
At 26:05, the Morgul-knife turned to dust in Strider's hand. In the book, the point was broken off. Later in the story, Gandalf explains to Frodo, "They tried to pierce your heart with a Morgul-knife which remains in the wound. If they had succeeded, you would have become like they are, only weaker and under their command. You would have become a wraith under the dominion of the Dark Lord, and he would have tormented you for trying to keep his Ring, if any greater torment were possible than being robbed of it and seeing it on his hand."
Some *very* brief background on the rings.
The 16 rings for the Dwarves and Men were created first, although they were originally meant for the Elves. Sauron eventually distributes them to the leaders of the Seven Dwarf clans and nine kings/leaders of Men, trying to corrupt them into becoming his slaves through the One. This works with the Men, who become the Nazgul - the Ringwraiths, the greatest of Sauron's servants. The Dwarves do become corrupted - they become greedier, but they prove too hardy and stubborn to be completely bent to Sauron's will.
The Three Elven Rings were created separately, after the other 16. So while Sauron knows about their existence, he doesn't know where they are or who has them.
It's also worth noting that Gandalf likely DID know Bilbo had a magic ring, but he probably didn't suspect it to be a Ring of Power, let alone the One Ring. He only started to suspect it might be a Ring of Power when he comments how Bilbo hadn't "aged a day." Then Bilbo's comment about it being "my precious." By the time he comes back to the Shire and throws the ring in the fireplace, he probably already knows it's the One, but only when Frodo confirms seeing the script on the band does he truly confirm it.
Expanding on this - All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
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Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
The voice at the beginning is Galadriel - Older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world.
she’s mainly Vanyar+Teleri. Galadriel is one of the Calaquendi, meaning "Elves of the Light" in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. Highly synonymous with the the Vanyar Elves. ❤️ they are closest and most trusted by the Valar. They are the epitome of the truest exalted potential of ElvenKind.
There is an entire set of clans of elves with variously different histories depending on when they branched off from the main three. Noldor, Teleri>Sindar (and Vanyar (of which Galadriel is of this branch more than her Noldorin side.) She is of the Calaquendi. Means The elves of light in Quenya. Some of the earliest Elves to come into existence, the Calaquendi dwelt in Valinor with the gods during the halcyon/zenith Years of the (Two) Trees, which predate even the First Age of Middle-earth. They are the exalted living ideal version of what the elves were meant to be like in this version of the world before Melkor/Morgoth’s poisonous malice poisoned and damaged the world to where it’s been slowly bleeding it’s magic away for thousands of years. It’s why everything is dying outside of Lothlórien & Rivendell. The rest of the elves are Nandor, Silvan, Falathrim which I think are those of the Falmari… Umanyar, & Avari & more. Moriquendi are the original elves long before ever living in Valinor. Waking to the stars by the Cuivienen River. The elves origins is shrouded in mist. Just like their ethereal existence that’s connected to the earth itself and it’s fate.
Oromë (one of the Valar.) called them Eldar, that means "People of the Stars", the Elves that chose to follow him, because when they awoke the stars were the only lights in the sky and for this reason they loved Varda and her creations
Fun fact when Isildur says no in Mount doom, it is actually Hugo Weaving saying the line.
"The mount uh...I forgot what it was called." **Smash Cut to J Jonah Jameson** "Are you Serious?"
**Chef's Kiss** that was so funny, seriously lol 🤣
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It doesn't really matter much now, since you already watched the whole Fellowship, but I feel like you judged Boromir too harshly here. I've always thought that he simply had the disadvantage of being introduced later than Strider/Aragorn which means 90% of reactors dismiss everything Boromir says and treat him like an enemy. But imagine this - it's been hundreds of years and your country has managed without a king, then you're told some guy that you know nothing about is supposed to be the king. You would probably react the same way Boromir did ;) Overall I enjoyed your reaction, because you were so inquisitive about the plot, but it's too bad you didn't analyse Boromir too much; he's a human after all, much like us :)
Have fun watching the next two movies!
30:53 Elves are immortal.. They can die with wounds etc. But they cannot getting old or they cannot die because of sickness.
Arwen can summon water just because that river is the Rivendell's magical border to fend off the enemy of the Elves.
Wraiths are afraid of water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, & Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths
“Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth dhaer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer.” This “spell” is in Sindarin so it Remains in true Tolkiens spirit! Despite the exact line was only for the movies - English : “Waters of the Misty Mountains, hear the word of power; Rush, waters of Bruinen, against the Ringwraiths!”
Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
Ulmo ain't no pushover. Only the evil Men under Sauron's dominion willingly traverse and enter any large body of water. It's of course not mentioned in the movies, but the reason is that Sauron and his servants are afraid of Ulmo, his power, and stay away from water.
Sauron surpasses Morgoth in a way, since he actually amassed fleets in his service and gained dominion over the sea in that fashion. Ulmo is the reason Elrond has the power to release the flood at all; unless - of course - they've got a whole sophisticated dam-setup going on. The Brandywine is
- I suppose - too deep and wide for them, and I'm guessing their forms of nothingness can't withstand any water that Ulmo hasn't completely withdrawn from. Probably something to do with the songs of creation that inhabit all the waters of Middle Earth.
Nazgul's horses are most likely undead, that is to say that they have horse's bodies but dark spirits inhabit them now instead. If they were normal horses, they would never consent to bear a ringwraith in the first place- they would immediately fly into a panic, because the nazgul "fill all living things with an instinctive dread".
CG and CG! were in their infancy when The Fellowship of the Ring was made. It was mostly live locations and large-scale miniatures. The orcs were not CGI; they were actually practical makeup.
Love your enthusiasm ! Great reaction !
Thank you!
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition:
(1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition
(2) The Two Tower Extended Edition
(3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
The Shire was a region of fertile farmlands given to the Hobbits by the Northern Kingdom ( The Dunedin, or Men of the West ) 400 years before it fell. The Witch King of Angmar divided and caused civil disputes and sent plagues to weaken them before overthrowing the area.
The region was depopulated by war and disease and the only condition of the settlement was that the Hobbits maintained section of The Great East-West road and its bridges where it ran across The Shire's Northern border. Early records of the Hobbies say that a troop of archers were sent to assist the King but we're never seen again. The Shire Reckoning dates from year one of their occupation of the area, and that was roughly 1500 years on the Common Calendar that dates the beginning of the Third Age from the time of the Last Alliance of Men and Elves. So this story is set at the last years of the Third Age of Middle Earth 3,000 years ago or 1500-ish of The Shire Reckoning. An appendix is available that gives an accurate timeline. The Tale of the Years, I think.
Hobbits are counted as an offshoot of Men but their lifecycle is different. They are not considered fully adult until the age of 33. They are very skilled at hiding from the Big People and if a Hobbit throws something it will hit its target. It's not unusual for a Hobbit to live to be 100 years old or more but, like us, they grow frail in their bodies and minds as they age.Bilbo's lasting vigor combined with his uncharacteristic behavior is what made Gandalf suspicious that ring might be the One.
Bilbo adopted Frodo when his parents, who lived in Buckland East of the Brandywine River were drowned in a boating accident. The " Uncle " is honorific. Bilbo was seeking an heir with the Baggins name and he and Frodo are third cousins. They also shared the same birthday.
On the day of the party Frodo turned 33. Bilbo had put off leaving The Shire until Frodo could own Bag End free and clear --along with its contents.
The movie doesn't cover this part of the timeline; it would have confused the audience, but Gandalf spent 17 years studying the ring and tracking how it came into Gollum's possession. He opted to leave it in The Shire in any case, as it was hidden for 60 years quite safely. The only effect it seemed to have on Bilbo was the compulsion to leave The Shire, never thinking Bilbo could leave it behind.
Frodo was 50 when he left The Shire. His possession of the ring still gave him the appearance of a Hobbit that was barely an adult. Samwise Gamgee's family had worked as gardeners and domestics for the Baggins family for three generations. Sam was the youngest son and Bilbo half raised him, teaching Sam to read because he was very interested in stories about the Elves as a lad. And Bilbo wanted him to be able to read his books and poetry about them. Sam was in his late 30s when he accompanied Frodo to Rivendale.
Meriadoc Brandybuck ( Merry ) is Frodo's first cousin and the eldest son of The Master of Buckland, East of the Brandywine River. He was 37 when he and Peregrine Took ( Pippin ) found Frodo, their cousin and friend setting out on a dangerous journey with only Sam for company. Pippin Took was the eldest son of The Thain of the Shire, something between a chieftain and a king, and at 29 is still very much an adolescent. Both he and Merry threw their futures to the wind for Frodo.
2:42 The reason they needed to just cut off the ring from Sauron is, that Sauron already lost his physical form in past, the ring was sustaining his physical existence.
Wow, seeing her reaction is beyond sweet! Great reaction! And u are one lucky man. ^^
Thank you!
Saruan, in the guise of an elf, taught them the art of ringmaking. The elves made the nineteen rings, but found out Saruans evil plans and snatched three rings before he touched and corrupted them. Saruans plans for the rings was largely a bust, the elves' rings were clean and not corrupted at all. The dwarfs rings didn't corrupt them so much as made them greedy and distrustful of others. They caused the destruction of Dwarfish civilization by attracting dragons. Only in men did the plan truly work.
Sauron
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Wow, at the end, you grazed something only covered in the book. The nine companions of the fellowship were indeed chosen to mirror the nine ring wraiths.
Very astute observation.
Thanks! Do you think the movie did the book justice?
@@Wae2Reel Oh no, not at all. what you get in the Lord of the rings movies is highly abridged and reshuffled a bit. But we are talking about a book series that is 1,178 pages long, not to mention the Hobbit which the lord of the rings is the sequel to. or the Silmarillion which is another 900 pages there are so many characters that are not even mentioned like tom Bombadil, Glorfindal, and several cut adventures like escaping the barrow wrights.
personally i have never actually finished reading the books myself, It's difficult for me to follow Tolkien's writing style and sometimes i just get bored reading it. For example, the longest chapter in the book "The council of Elrond" Is 15,000 words and consists of catching up with what everyone has been doing so far, lore dumping about he one ring and then deciding what to actually do with the ring.
It is in my opinion NOT for novice readers.
The Witch King of Angmar will henceforth be known as the "king with the nice hair". Loved the reaction you two. Thanks for sharing it with us.
😂 thanks for watching!
I cracked up at that line!
One thing about the Ring: No one other than Sauron can possess it. It possesses them.
Oh ok, so the ring makes the person want to put it on
@@Wae2Reelyes. Consider it a character of the story that is a part of Sauron.
No one ever told Pippin not to use the name "Baggins."
Yeah, Frodo definitely should have told them or at least let them know to be inconspicuous
@Wae2Reel Indeed, he should have.
He does in the book. Yet, the outcome is a little different. Frodo falls off of a table while he is singing and the ring maneuvers itself onto his finger as he falls.
When Isildor refuses to throw the Ring into the chasm of Mt. Doom, Everyone says: "Just Kill him". 1) That's a pretty stupid response to almost every problem. 2) Not even Elrond could have thrown it into the fire. Tolkien said no one could have voluntarily destroyed the Ring. 3) That's not the situation that Tolkien wrote about in the book. In the book Isildor has decided to take the Ring to Elrond for him to keep it safe, on the way he is waylaid by orcs and put's it on. The Ring then does betray him and slips off his finger and he is killed.
Fun reaction, love how excited you guys are. You are in for a ride.
Thank you!
16:43 "no offense to Sam, i dont think he can help much!"
The book "The Similarians" was a very hard read. The lord of the rings and The Hobbit are great reads and many of us had to read these books in junior high for school.
The "seeing stones" corrupt more than just Sauramon, Denethor (in chapters 2,3) has one (not shown in the movie) and goes completely mad from the mind control of Sauron.
The cast and crew all lived in New Zealand for more than 18 months to film the whole series, despite the 3 chapters being released a year apart from each other.
Yeah, love the book, but its a hard pivot from LOTRs to "and thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me". He went full biblical with that one, lol
The Silmarillion reads like the mythology books I used to love as a kid, or the Bible. Written in a very archaic style that fits. Modern people aren't patient enough for such writing, though.
@@rikk319 Honestly, I found the Silm a way easier read than the Bible. It's in the _style_ of the Bible (i.e. short episodic recountings of the mythological origins of the earth) but the writing itself isn't all that difficult... maybe except for "Of Beleriand and its Realms" lol
Turn him into a horse, putting the ring on is find my phone and a Sin City reference to Frodo is pretty good work.
😂
Hobbits have more resistance to the lure of the Ring. Maybe because they were not one of the races that were given the lesser rings, Men, Elves, Dwarves. Maybe because they tend to desire more simple things than power.
The more power you have, the more the Ring has an advantage to corrupt you. The humble resist its powers best. No surprise hobbits are the best at carrying it.
@@rikk319 that too!
The elves weren’t given theirs. All were meant for the elves though! All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
-
The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
"He turned him into a horse?" I laughed out loud when I heard this. But looking at it now, I'm wondering if that was intended. Showing the silhouette of Gandalf, Frodo, and the horse, but not Sam, seems like an obvious misdirect. A brief bit of humor after the tense exposition scene.
😂 yeah it had to be intentional
As if the "find me" feature of the Ring wasn't enough the Hobbits had to throw in the smell of bacon...
😂 they need to eat!
😂😂😂
Bilbo wasn't so affected by the ring because it was dormant and not active that's why it took 60 years to affect him
Ohh that makes sense
Great reaction, hopefully a louder soundtrack from the movies in part two. Have fun with this trilogy!
In book; Isildur NEVER succumbs to The One Ring, instead spends time being a fair ruler, gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails.
In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy!
* He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro.
* • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse).
Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good.
* They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself.
They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars !
Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am)
This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations?
People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc.
(JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth.
Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work.
Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.
They filmed all three movies in New Zealand Peter Jackson the director was the first director to film three movies back to back
I enjoyed watching along with you. Looking forward to the next part.
Thank you! We had a lot fun watching this!
The books are not difficult to read. The Silmarillion is, but not LotR. Also, you don't become instantly corrupt once the ring is 'yours' you have to wear it all the time for that to happen...
Looking forward to this! I will say that the books aren't to everyone's tastes but they're also not necessarily hard to read, or follow, either. I know fans who fell in love with them during bedtime story time at ages as young as five or six.
Irrelevant but fun fact about Hobbits: for girls' names, flowers and gemstones are popular... but their tastes are meant to be a little weird to English readers, so along with Rose, Lily, Daisy, Rowan, Ruby, Pearl and Esmeralda, the family trees in the books' Appendices are full of names like Diamond, Asphodel, Celandine, Eglantine, Lobelia and Amaranth!
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
In the books Gandalf was gone for like 17 years before coming back to tell Frodo what the ring is. 😅
🤯 17 years?!
@@Wae2Reeland there is a movie covering that and presumably what else has been going on in the years prior as well as a backdrop. And to show more things that were going on during this time that wasn’t put into the trilogy ! Hunt For Gollum!
Sam is the best character his evoltion from a random gardener to the end of return of the king is so epic and true character development
Each race got as many rings as they had kings or kingdoms.
On my computer, to my old ears, there was too great a discrepancy in volume between your voices and the characters in the movie. One cannot follow along in the movie if one can't hear the dialogue. Otherwise a very nice reaction.
We had some issues but will work on the volume for the next one. Thanks!
1:36 Hahaha CGI ? :D What CGI? They are all real make-up and real shots..Thousands of people did make up and tons of costumes Not much CGI :D You guys dont know anything about the productions of this trilogy
Give flow state react channel some love since she reacted to the BTS content curated by Pajasek99! ❤
33:02 Killing him would be complicated. It would spark an unnecessary war between Elves and Men
As others have already commented, there is an annoyingly large difference in sound volume between your voices, and the movie itself. In your subsequent videos, could you try to balance the sound levels please?
Yeah we had some issues uploading this, but will definitely try to raise the volume
Viggo (Aragorn) bought the horse that Arwen's stunt double rode in the chase to Rivendale and gifted it to that stuntwoman!
Love that!
@@Wae2Reel You'll like the details, then:
Viggo and Jane Abbott had become friends, and he found out she wanted to buy Florian. It wasn't going to happen because he was going to be expensive, and anyway, another production member with a lot more sway wanted him. Viggo was already buying his own horse anyhow, so he offered to try to use his influence to get Jane's horse too. He broke the good news with a voicemail: "Florian's yours! You can pick him up at the farm any time".
Jane understandably assumed Viggo had been acting as her agent so she asked what she owed him and he went "No, I told you I'd try to get him for you and that's what I did. He's yours." He'd seen the two of them work together a lot and he felt, given the horse's personality, that it was in Florian's best interests for Jane to have him long-term. Viggo being, well, Viggo, he just... went ahead and made it happen.
(Of everyone interviewed for the DVDs' special features, Jane Abbott gets by far the most emotional... and it's when she talks about Viggo and Florian.)
I'm with those who admire your association of the actors with other roles and I don't blame you for not recognizing John Rhys Davies, who played Gimli the Dwarf. His other big role was Sallah, Indiana Jones' friend. Can you believe he's 6'1"?
Thanks for letting us know! Now I can hear his voice!
Largest man in the cast plays one of the smallest...and later one of the largest, boom baroom.
1:37 not CGI :) they are actually masks. CGI orcs are mostly in the Hobbit trilogy
23:31 is the love story of an elf maiden luthian and the a mortal man beren this was the first ever elf and man couple in middle earth beren was badly wounded in a fight against a werewolf of sauron named gorgorath and he later died of his wounds and gorgorath was also killed in the same fight by a hound named Huan who was a loyal friend of luthian and beren luthian also died in the sorrow and grief of her beloved beren
There were several others besides those two. Idril and Tuor had Eärendil which is Elrond’s father! Elwing & Eärendil, Andreth & Aegnor! Mithrellas & Imrazôr, as well as Túrin and Finduilas!
In defense of Isildur: The ring was bloating his ego calling him master and he literally did just watch the big bad explode into a pile of coal and armor. Not to mention the level of desperation that the ring had when it was right on that cliff over the fire.
True! One slice did it
Hello best friends great reaction 😊
Hey Nono!
Rings are less powerful the more of them they are, the eleven rings were made by the elves and never held by anyone else. Sharon helped with the making of the dwarf and men rings, when he disguised himself as the Lord of gifts.
You get to see all three elven ring bearers in fellowship
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Merry and pippin are actually Frodo 's cousins, pull In isn't even an adult in hobbit years,
"All they had to do was cut off his finger?"
Actually, no. In the book Sauron is slayed by the combined efforts of those Kings and Elves you see him fighting - also, he is not a giant but he is a powerful evil wizard and taking him down was no easy task. It killed Isildur's father. However, as the now destroyed body of Sauron lay on the battlefield, Isildur went over and picked up his father's broken sword and cut the ring from Sauron's lifeless hand. Only Elrond saw him do this and only Elrond knew that Isildur had taken the One Ring for himself.
Oh ok, that makes more sense!
@@Wae2ReelI’ll explain in more detail in my next comment below this video.
Movie volume is too low. Please raise for next reaction. Or lower your voice volume. If you do, thanks
We had some issues uploading. Will definitely raise the volume
Don't forget Sam Cassel has 3 Championship Rings, and Charles Barkley has none. 💍💍💍
19:14 the brandywine river, in the books, is alive. An ancient water elemental named goldberry. those wraiths DID NOT WANT THAT SMOKE.
Ohhh that makes sense! Thanks for this!
Um, no. Goldberry in the book is Tom Bombadil's wife, and he calls her "River-man's daughter"...that is, a spirit of the Withywindle River, which flows through the Old Forest, and thence into the Baranduin (Brandywine).
@@rikk319 so you are saying... the river... runs through it
@@MrGaleanon Nice
Regarding the book, some people find Part I a bit slow.
Welcome to Middle-Earth. I'm looking forward to your reaction to the second half of FOTR.
Thank you!
Ok Dwarves and Elves have had an animosity dating back 10k years, the elves used to hunt dwarves for sport then every time the two races tried to mend the fences Dwarvish greed would destroy it.
Saruman on a twitch stream with one viewer in a cave for 500 years.
I'm pretty sure Sam is not going to be of help at all... Mark my words.
Really! He had never left the Shire before going on this "quest ... thang." How much assistance can he provide?! He's only a gardener, right?
Fun fact Hobbiton where Frodo Sam Merry and Pippin live is actually real they built the village a year before they started shooting the movies and it still exists you can go visit it
@@zarinshapurjee9430 visiting would be a dream come true🥹✨
The novels were harder to read and seemed rather dry and unemotional. However, after watching the movies, then I really love the books because they have much more detail, and in my imagination I have the feelings from the movies, so it works well. I love the movies!
You kidding? They are rich with such emotional depth beyond the grasp of people belonging to instant gratification society and so forth. Lol. How many have you tried? There are 25. Start with the hobbit. Then check out Tolkien Untangled and TheRedBook and or GirlNextGondor or CluelessFangirl for example! Or even the awesome ThePhilosophersGames. MenOfTheWest is great too. Best animations with voice overs from tons of the book bring it all to life by Tales Of The Ring ! ❤
Phil Dragash fills that gap for people like you! It merges the movie vibe with the actual books as he brings every character to life to where you don’t imagine it’s all his voice. Spotify has entire playlists. Each book of the trilogy is split into two parts.
@@Makkaru112 The dryness was my initial experience, but I've since read the books many, many times and love them, including the Silmarillion, so you are preaching to the converted ; ) I totally agree that there is a rich depth in Tolkien's approach to human nature, especially the nature of good and evil.
The One Ring definitely corrupts its wearer; it has a "partner in crime," too -- the Palantir, the Seeing Stone. Through it, Sauron has been able to corrupt Saruman! Those Nazgul are already dead; they cannot die further ... or did Tolkien kill them off again "in the books"? Arwen got cut on the cheek by a tree bough. Nazgul NOT "afraid" of water; river is boundary to Elven territory, so the Black Riders were being "cautious."
The seven palantiri were not a creation of Sauron--they were made in Valinor, probably by Feanor. They were gifts to the Faithful of Numenor by elves who were friends of those loyal humans. Elendil was their chief, and he ended up using them in strategic places in Arnor and Gondor, for observation of the two kingdoms.
Nazgul were averse to water and fire. Water because of Ulmo, Lord of Waters, one of the Valar.
Saruman never served Sauron nor bent to him at all in the books. The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript-C) The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras.
See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund in the duel of visions, (Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The Long Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west.
Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands.
So him also being a student and helper of Aulë of the Valar he was going to fight fire with fire and make a bid for the ring just so Sauron could never regain full power and if Saruman found a way to release himself from his power restrictions even by any small margin or worked with Eru in some way it might have worked out in the end if things went differently enough to where such action from him would be needed.
Ontop of that he was growing ever jealous of Gandalf for he received the Varya from Círdan and prior to that was chosen by the other Valar, Nienna’s chosen champion to go to middle earth. But Gandalf(Olórin back then) refused over and over and exclaimed his fear of Sauron(Mairon), varya I feel would have kindle the heart of Saruman to stay strong as he had been fighting the evils of the world for a very long time since he had been sent to Middle Earth.
And for the is reason Saruman wished to hold the ring at hostage. Keep Sauron from taking back his full strength and basically use it to stave off The Long Defeat.
Saruman is very complex. The Hobbit movies actually shows how he was even 60 years ago during Bilbo’s story. He was one of the main forces thwarting Sauron for over 2000 years. The Númenoreans: the high men of the west; gifted Saruman with Orthanc which was of their making. Now known as Isengard.
[[Correction given to me recently to which I’ll need to double check for myself regardless:
The Númenoreans didn't give
Isengard to Saruman, after Helm Hammerhand died, Saruman returned from his journeys in the far east, and sort of "occupied it by friendly force", Fréaláf (the new King of Rohan) told Saruman to contact Beren (Gondor's Steward), which gladly gave
Orthanc's key to the wizard (grave mistake). ]]
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Saruman is actually trying to doublecross sauron and wanted Gandalf to simply help him subdue toe rings evil so they could use it to defeat Sauron together as a single duo-unit. He wants the ring for himself for what was still a noble reason. He thinks he can control it. The little orcs around saruman are from mordor - sauron's orcs sent to help saruman but also to spy on him. The big fighting orcs - the uruk hai - are loyal only to Saruman.
Orcs are like that. But it’s why Saruman’s orders are a bit vague - to avoid sauron's orcs knowing what Saruman is doing. The movies dont make this bit of the story very clear. But notice that, while Saruman knows where the fellowship is he never lets Sauron Know.
@@rikk319and that the ainulindalë, song of creation is literally reverberating through all the oceans, lakes, rivers, streams, brooks and so forth !
21:41😅😅😅
The movie does not give a good sense of the passage of time. Frodo is 33 on Bilbo's 111th birthday and does not leave Hobbiton until he is 50.
50?!
Merry and Pippin are best friends but also first cousins and they are Frodo's second and third cousins too
I've read the novels. As with any long book with an extreme amount of detail it can be a slog to get through. You have to want to read them, really. The audiobook versions with Andy Serkis make them far more accessible.
Regarding Arwen and the wraiths - wraiths are afraid of water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, & Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths
“Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth dhaer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer.” This “spell” is in Sindarin so it Remains in true Tolkiens spirit! Despite the exact line was only for the movies - English : “Waters of the Misty Mountains, hear the word of power; Rush, waters of Bruinen, against the Ringwraiths!”
Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
Ulmo ain't no pushover. Only the evil Men under Sauron's dominion willingly traverse and enter any large body of water. It's of course not mentioned in the movies, but the reason is that Sauron and his servants are afraid of Ulmo, his power, and stay away from water.
Sauron surpasses Morgoth in a way, since he actually amassed fleets in his service and gained dominion over the sea in that fashion. Ulmo is the reason Elrond has the power to release the flood at all; unless - of course - they've got a whole sophisticated dam-setup going on. The Brandywine is
- I suppose - too deep and wide for them, and I'm guessing their forms of nothingness can't withstand any water that Ulmo hasn't completely withdrawn from. Probably something to do with the songs of creation that inhabit all the waters of Middle Earth.
Nazgul's horses are most likely undead, that is to say that they have horse's bodies but dark spirits inhabit them now instead. If they were normal horses, they would never consent to bear a ringwraith in the first place- they would immediately fly into a panic, because the nazgul "fill all living things with an instinctive dread".
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Timeline in the movies is all wrong. Gandalf where away from the shire for 17 years, before returning.
Obligatory old fan comment: Read The Texts
if the novel was difficult to read, it would not have achieved success and subsequently become the foundation of the fantasy genre. someone has fed you a lie - a common thing on the Internet.(and the terminator horse line was super funny! 😅 )
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I believe "Agent Smith" actually loves men very much. 😆
Hugo Weaving has been with the same woman since 1984, and they have two kids.
@@rikk319 Wow. This whole time I've been wrong. Oops.