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The (Other) Phantom of the Opera (Musical Hell Review #78)

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  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    "Illegal Heathers" decades before "Heathers" even premiered. "Illegal Phantom of the Opera", anyone?

    • @citizenmalkane
      @citizenmalkane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your profile picture is *amazing*

    • @deeplyshalllow8967
      @deeplyshalllow8967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean illegal Heathers was just a bad school production, and like actually based on Heathers

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@citizenmalkane Many thanks, two of my favorite movies combined! I quite like yours as well!

    • @willlyon7129
      @willlyon7129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t forget Illegal Hamilton

  • @leninittowinit3845
    @leninittowinit3845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    the moment where erik dramatically swishes his cape at the daroga and it clearly hits his mic, resulting in a loud but muffled THUNK? andrew lloyd webber WISHES he could be that iconic

    • @2doot
      @2doot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I literally screeched with laughing while reading this comment lmfao

    • @notyourdaughter666
      @notyourdaughter666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lenin It To Win It I’m dead comrade

    • @happyjellycatsquid
      @happyjellycatsquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ngl, TEN YEARS OOOOLLLLD is also pretty iconic what can I say

  • @wingedmirage4226
    @wingedmirage4226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +648

    I actually kinda like the idea of a guy who seems obsessed over someone, only to shift that obsession to someone else when he gets rejected...and playing that straight instead of for laughs, showing how psychotic such behavior really is. Just...not for the Phantom.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Isn't that basically Romeo, except that Romeo found someone who returned his obsession?

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It could be a good character study.

    • @PassTheMarmalade1957
      @PassTheMarmalade1957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      It would have been more effective if they'd had Madame Giry or someone be the Phantom's former protege, making Christine realise that the Phantom loves her for one thing and one thing only - using her voice as a platform for his music - and that he'll forget about her and fall in love with the next sensation whose career he can mold and catch some glory off of (which would hark back nicely to Carlotta's solo about being eclipsed by the new rising star.) That would have made the ending seem a bit less anticlimactic.

    • @juliadietrich3584
      @juliadietrich3584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, phantoms whole character is entirely based around his love for christine. If he can get a girl like 5 minutes after she leaves it defeats the point. Idk just no. Maybe that's y he didn't try hard on that choice, cause he knew he could just immediately get a ballerina or something.

    • @randombrokeperson
      @randombrokeperson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Have you seen the show "You" on Netflix? That show is kinda close to that.

  • @AliceOfSherwood
    @AliceOfSherwood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    The epilogue had me thinking they saw my phan-fiction twenty years early

    • @twiggy_stardust
      @twiggy_stardust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      relatable af

    • @b.d6642
      @b.d6642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #relatble

    • @Quackervoltz
      @Quackervoltz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The.....the real life TH-camr 😦

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, where can I read it?

    • @AliceOfSherwood
      @AliceOfSherwood 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@questworldiangreenknight7455 I'm afraid it no longer exists.

  • @starbird3939
    @starbird3939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    Cool Idea for a Phantom of the Opera
    1) Make the Phantom and actual ghost or a demon who preys on understudies and ballet dancers. Offers them a chance at a starring role... for a price.
    2) Make a story where the Phantom is a red herring. He never existed and it was the understudy who did it.
    Confession: I use to like Pebble and the Penguin. I still like the song “Now and Forever”

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      In the Discworld novel Maskerade (spoilers)
      There are two phantoms, one pretending to be the real phantom for fraud reasons, if that's something.

    • @BeautyLikeTheNight
      @BeautyLikeTheNight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I always thought the Phantom seemed like he should be a vampire, or a sorcerer if he is a mortal man.

    • @ksaunders4362
      @ksaunders4362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@merrittanimation7721 Life isn't neat! Who said there's only one ghost?

    • @mil2292
      @mil2292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Robert England version

    • @willlyon7129
      @willlyon7129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or have tv ministers based on Susan Kay’s Phantom that explains Erick/the Phantom’s origin and flesh him out.

  • @morgangobin9985
    @morgangobin9985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    “Yes! We have Persian! This is not a drill!”
    I laughed harder at that line than I probably should have. It is sad how underutilized the Persian is in Phantom adaptations, though. If he’s used right-if indeed he’s used at all-he can really bring a lot to the story. Susan Kay’s novel is a perfect example of this.
    Anywho, glad to see Christi tackled another Phantom musical. Four down, another billion to go! Also hoping for some more commentaries in the future...but now I’m just being greedy! 😅

  • @SiRenfield
    @SiRenfield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Pardon the outdated meme format
    Some girl in the 80’s: mom can we see Phantom?
    Mom: we have Phantom at home.
    ....Phantom at home:

    • @benderbendingrodriguez420
      @benderbendingrodriguez420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not outdated! Basically what this is😂

    • @SiRenfield
      @SiRenfield ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benderbendingrodriguez420 Actually yeah, I think I meant more overused? IDK

  • @MDWolfe-ks5fu
    @MDWolfe-ks5fu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    13:33 Holy smokes! That's the face of death.
    Even in low budget, it looks impressive.

    • @gracekelley2907
      @gracekelley2907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Ikr? I can see why people would run away in fear if they saw that face.

    • @SunflowerSpotlight
      @SunflowerSpotlight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah that makes WAY more sense. Far more in line with the book.

    • @willlyon7129
      @willlyon7129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This could have been in many of the productions that of Phantom.

  • @sophersaucer7666
    @sophersaucer7666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    "i was just fourteen and soaked to the skin"
    "because you had gone and fetched my scarf, oh raoul! so it is you!"
    why is this SUCH a knockoff

    • @emmahess1559
      @emmahess1559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sopher Saucer it happens in the book too

    • @sigridhorn2408
      @sigridhorn2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Emma The Unikitty yeah, but those lines are 99,99% directly copied from ALW

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Honestly, the line: "Here's the land where passion reigns..." is my new séduction line hahahaha

  • @missjenna5328
    @missjenna5328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I think "An Able Woman" is right on that line of being a Saving Grace. Other shows have given us a closer look at Carlotta (Yeston and Kopit, for example), but I can't really think of any others that made any real attempt to make her human. She's a whole character in this. Not a GREAT character, but still three-dimensional. I think the original novel is the only other version to make any attempt at showing her as an actual person, rather than a just a villainous obstacle. She's mourning the loss of her career and her dream, and the loss of the chance to display her talent, the only thing she really has going for her. Hell, a lot of versions try to claim she HAS no talent, despite her position.
    But then, it's not a very good song, lol.

    • @PrincessNinja007
      @PrincessNinja007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think they could make Carlotta a part of the horror if they wanted. The phantom is the personification of sensationalism, the people flock to him and he flocks to the younger and prettier. It happens to nearly every actress of a certain age, and one day Christine will be the new Carlotta

    • @edoboleyn
      @edoboleyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@PrincessNinja007 I LOVE this point! There’s so much to explore in the Carlotta-Christine parallels. Carlotta’s a genuinely interesting character, but ALW was blind to the possibilities. It’s all bad older Karen vs pretty young ingenue.
      The Phantom might be unusually creepy, but he’s not the first egotist trying to stake a claim on a talented young woman. One wonders if Carlotta has encountered his type before.

  • @caffeineandmemes
    @caffeineandmemes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Why did Christine picking between Eric and Raoul remind me of those kids movies where two people let the dog run to whoever they want to go with

  • @roger18975smith
    @roger18975smith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    “...staggers onto the dance floor with an axe in his back.” Cue the clip of Groundskeeper Willie from Treehouse of Horror. “Auch. I’m bad at this.”

    • @MusicalHell
      @MusicalHell  5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Damn, I should have included that!

    • @mierardi88
      @mierardi88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is indeed a disturbing universe.

  • @captaincrunch784
    @captaincrunch784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "There's Some Phantoming Going on" needs to be the title of someone's fanfic

  • @ZoraTheberge
    @ZoraTheberge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    What every adaptation (except the ALW musical) gets wrong is the lack of simplicity. When you really break it down, the Musical is incredibly straightforward. It builds Hitchcockian suspense by telling you the chandelier crashed and there was an Opera ghost. It tells you things on a need to know basis. Even when his face is first revealed, the audience doesn’t see it. Because nothing is more frightening than mystery. Which is why horror films don’t show the monster until they have to. If at all. And even Maria Bjornson’s set is quite simple (for a show that takes place in the Opera Garnier) it’s mostly heavy drapes to evoke mystery. Who’s a afraid of a man who’s just walking around the whole time.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The problem with adapting a simple story is that you can either complicate it or do absolutely nothing new. If you do nothing new, you need to do everything better than the best adaptation so far...and good friggin' luck with that.

    • @KyrieFortune
      @KyrieFortune 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "You tell the audience there is a bomb under the table and it will go off in five minutes" yep, most adaptations of POTO are built around this concept, tell the audience ahead there was an incident with the chandelier and a "phantom", keep them hooked on the curiosity to discover who is the phantom and why he crushed the chandelier. In a sense, every POTO adaptation is like this, even if they don't tell you the chandelier crushed people watch/read them anyway to see what variation of "the phantom makes the chandelier fall down on someone" there will be this time - it actually makes for a good plot twist when the phantom is NOT involved in the incident or is involved as the victim.

  • @AliciaNyblade
    @AliciaNyblade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    "It's the late '80s/early '90s and Lloyd Webber's 'Phantom' is the 'Hamilton' of its day."
    And now I'm imagining what Lin-Manuel Miranda would do as the lyricist for a "Phantom" adaptation and this needs to be a thing right now. If there was ever anybody in this day and age who could put all the wonderful melodrama and characters into poignant poetry which stayed true to the book, including Erik's past with Daroga, it would be him.
    As for this musical, not gonna lie, I have the DVD somewhere, and as far as obvious knockoffs go, it's not that bad. I like that they at least TRIED to weave in more elements from the novel than Lloyd Webber did. "Perfect Music" is indeed the show's saving grace, and the fact that this is more of a traditional musical that includes dialogue as opposed to Lloyd Webber's pop opera where mostly everything is sung is a nice change of pace. It gives the characters time to breathe and sit down to have actual conversations and the audience time to digest who these people are. Don't get me wrong, I love the Lloyd Webber show, but it's far from a deep adaptation of the novel. The Staller version isn't much better, but it seems like a more honest effort. But that just might be my personal taste in theater. Shows that are simply staged and have that home-grown, "out of the trunk" feel to their design seem much more effective to me than ones which give off a "style over substance" vibe.

  • @bunnyboyking5215
    @bunnyboyking5215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Ooh The Pebble & The Penguin is next on the chopping block. I better get the popcorn ready next month.

    • @KariIzumi1
      @KariIzumi1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh good, now I can have a Doug Walker--free review of that crap :)

    • @roger18975smith
      @roger18975smith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Don’t make me laugh!”

    • @janmikhailgaid4562
      @janmikhailgaid4562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      After The Pebble and the Penguin is Anastasia, Don Bluth's greatest comeback.

    • @bunnyboyking5215
      @bunnyboyking5215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KariIzumi1 Yeah I stopped watching Nostalgia Critic after #Changethechannel became a thing.

    • @bunnyboyking5215
      @bunnyboyking5215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Brandon Roberts At least his character isn't stuck on the wall like in Beauty & The Beast: The Enchanted
      Christmas.

  • @canarycry8928
    @canarycry8928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the Persian is the Quincey Morris of Phantom canon,
    in that both are constantly ignored despite doing pretty important shit to the plot of their respective stories

  • @Eviltwin531
    @Eviltwin531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hold up:
    Robert Englund starred in a late-80s slasher-horror version of Phantom of the Opera!?
    I suddenly feel very betrayed by everybody I've ever met for not making me aware of this.

  • @benjaminwambeke9458
    @benjaminwambeke9458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Oh I totally thought this was gonna be the Yeston Phantom, I had no idea there was ANOTHER another Phantom

  • @QUEENOBSCURE
    @QUEENOBSCURE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I like the twist end to this really.
    It shows you Erik didn't really love Crist after all in version.
    It gives it more of creepy campy horror feel..he just wants to collect pretty girls and mentally mess with them for his own pleasure.

    • @cloudyloudly2404
      @cloudyloudly2404 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shit. What you described is what my OC’s for Phantom of the Opera are going through.
      Not being mean. Just a coincidence I thought was strange…

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have a point

  • @SeanMcGuire92
    @SeanMcGuire92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I’m glad no punishments were doled out on the cast of this one. I’ve seen it twice: once by myself, once as a drinking game with friends. (Pro tip: don’t take a shot for every time Erik is melodramatic to the extreme.)
    I’m excited for the next review for one specific reason: buff jock penguin Gaston-ripoff villain Tim Curry.

  • @thewaitisogre
    @thewaitisogre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You know that saying "you don't know what you got until it's gone"? I didn't know how key the costume design was in ALW's Phantom until I saw this. ALW's Phantom walks this line between fantasy and historical accuracy. This has no accuracy, some gowns look medieval, but it's also astoundingly drab. This the designer have seasonal affective disorder?

  • @BovineDesigns
    @BovineDesigns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The other Phantom of The Opera? There's like a million iterations!

    • @robinlaceishere
      @robinlaceishere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other Phantom of the Opera

    • @asalways1504
      @asalways1504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You'd be amazed. I would love to see Diva review the 40s version.

    • @blapis-blazuli
      @blapis-blazuli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The 40's version? The Claude Rains one? I'm not sure if that really qualifies as a musical.

    • @BovineDesigns
      @BovineDesigns 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinlaceishere ah, now I get it

    • @CoalDiamondandhisawesomeness
      @CoalDiamondandhisawesomeness 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know of 6 musical versions(counting Love Never Dies)

  • @kristine9823
    @kristine9823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found a VHS of this in my public library in high school (2000) and I always wondered the story behind it (had a handwritten 'Phantom' label and nothing else). I think it justifies it's whole existence for the bit with Carlotta doing Queen of the Night interspersed with the Phantom imitating in baritone. Not only hilarious but also well done! A lot of the music actually well sung, actually. Admittedly, though, the script, music choices, just whole general flow are wacky like a third grade make a story out of a bunch of shredded magazine articles.

  • @dunes8817
    @dunes8817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Even Baywatch had a Phantom of the Opera, though it also has vibes of Poe's The Raven as well.

  • @bee7639
    @bee7639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    You: Illegal Heathers
    Me, an Intellectual: Illegal Phantom of The Opera

  • @ksaunders4362
    @ksaunders4362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Phantom's face still isn't scary...but damn, that makeup was pretty good.

    • @LostApotheosis
      @LostApotheosis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sorry to dig up an old comment, but I thought I'd add something. I think the Phantom's face is often not scary to us because we live in a different cultural context. The book was written in 1909 and takes place in 1880 in Paris, France. At one point Roman Catholicism was the state religion and it wasn't until 1880 that the Jules Ferry Laws replaced clergymen in education.
      That means throughout all that time people were being taught very catholic leaning beliefs which includes the idea that the Original Sin brought deformity into the world. This was eventually twisted into the idea that if you had a deformity then it must be because you have committed some terrible sin. A large stigma grew where those who were deformed were shunned from society and few people cared what happened to them, so the Phantom's complaints and fears about how he was treated often come across as overblown or unreasonable because things like that so rarely happen in our society today.
      The most that would happen today would be that they would struggle with personal relationships and finding a job. Essentially to a lot of people a deformity meant that you were basically a criminal in the eyes of God and it was a condemnation that you couldn't be saved, which to a God-fearing community, in a religion in which it's quite easy to obtain eternal damnation, is quite frightening. People would be afraid that if they were even so much as kind to a condemned person that they might be dragged down with them.

  • @hostessofhorror99
    @hostessofhorror99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, there's a bootleg Phantom of the Opera?! I mean, I knew there were multiple adaptations of the story already made, but... WOW! Honestly, I would rather watch this than the entirety of Love Never Dies any day. Also, the Phantom's face makeup is pretty much the only best thing I can find in this musical, and the ending where the Phantom finds a new object of obsession (a ballerina, not another singer, at that) after Christine runs off with Raoul just rubs me the wrong way. At least Love Never Dies kept his extreme admiration for his angel of music.

    • @ReyntiensDanny
      @ReyntiensDanny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was a real bitch in LND. And he wasn't really that obsessed with her. I mean in the original he kills people and writes an entire Opera for her. In LND he writes one song which took him 10 years to write and then walks off with their child after Meg killed her. God I hate LND

  • @lilanthia
    @lilanthia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm inordinately relieved that you gave Perfect Music the "saving grace" credit, it's always been a bit of a guilty pleasure for me 😅

  • @rosebyanyname
    @rosebyanyname 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    ...and “Phantom of the Paradise” continues to be the best musical film adaptation of the Leroux story!

  • @rachelbailey6469
    @rachelbailey6469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "We have Daroga! This is not a drill!"
    You put my feelings into words exactly, lol!!

  • @pinkfeiry
    @pinkfeiry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Woah hang on did they... During the intermission...

  • @kingofrapture
    @kingofrapture 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I love Diet Phantom, it's so bad it's funny. I watch this when I need a good laugh.
    I hope at some point the Ken Hill Phantom (which lol predated the Lloyd Webber Phantom by ten years but was nowhere near as successful) will be in this series at some point. I would love to know Diva's thoughts on that one.

    • @LaFemmeFictionale
      @LaFemmeFictionale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Maybe as a Know the Score. Being in the court implies it's bad.

    • @MelanieNLee
      @MelanieNLee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, a Know the Score episode about various Phantom adaptations!

    • @kingofrapture
      @kingofrapture 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LaFemmeFictionale Know the Score would be awesome for Ken Hill's Phantom! I'm down for that.

  • @LaFemmeFictionale
    @LaFemmeFictionale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Patreon request well used. I am so glad to have gotten your take on this, it's delightful!

    • @Pepperjack1986
      @Pepperjack1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for requesting this! I'm going to find this video and watch it all the way through!

  • @jkvictus8965
    @jkvictus8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I always thought the "other" Phantom was written by Maury Yeston & Arthur Kopit.

    • @unicornalq11
      @unicornalq11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Yeston and Kopit one isn't very good but this one makes it look like the highest art. At least Yeston's phantom has the song Home.

  • @JuriAmari
    @JuriAmari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    And now I’m thinking of Reinhardt doing musicals during his off days with Brigitte doing stage design, lighting, and engineering and Lúcio doing the pre-show.

    • @MusicalHell
      @MusicalHell  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would pay to see Reinhardt starring in Camelot.

  • @stefanfilipovits21
    @stefanfilipovits21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Wow Hirschfeld had his fingers in a lot of terrible pies

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Darin De Paul is also J Jonah Jameson in the Spider-Man Ps4 game. It's even more hilarious!

  • @margotnohe973
    @margotnohe973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Reinhardt voice lines in this video are making me chuckle in addition to the usual commentary I love so much. Great work, Diva!
    Edit: I would also like to point out how I loved your "bad touch" comment because that reach Christine had to the Phantom was creepy and needed to be pointed out.

  • @TheStarstruckbabe
    @TheStarstruckbabe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Please do illegal heathers

  • @leadingblind1629
    @leadingblind1629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I kind of like how Erica chooses another object of his affection that the end. It's kind of realistic actually. I understand all your points, but it is still kind of realistic. It also kind of goes to show how psychotic he is. Or how psychotic he was made by the end.
    please share with us some of the names for those bootlegs. I would bet you dimes to dollars that somewhere in there is the one I've been looking for a but just posted yet

  • @jonathanpeterson1633
    @jonathanpeterson1633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4:14 - Why did the hair and makeup designers think that Madame Giry's 'Conehead with extreme widow's peak' look was a good idea?
    4:57 - To be fair, this isn't the first time a Phantom project has had wonky timelines... Love Never Dies, anyone?
    8:23 - Oh look! Thing from the Addams Family!
    9:25 (and elsewhere) - I don't know whether to be pleased that they've included existing operatic arias, or disappointed that they didn't put in the work to write their own pieces...
    11:41 - Teeth marks? I can see massive bites ripped out of it! Do you think The Phantom gets indigestion from scenery?
    13:01, 16:22, and 17:25 - Note that he said 'beyond the walls of the opera house,' not 'outside of the opera house' like he says later. Technically, the ceiling isn't a wall, and the roof isn't outside the walls, so really he doesn't have anything to be mad at them about later when they have their little rendezvous. Or he should've been more specific. Or just said, 'NO, you can't talk to him!'
    13:54 - Yay! However, your instrumentation sounds a lot better! Their's sounds like a rejected Silly Symphonies track.
    14:38 - Clearly, Reinhardt has NOT seen Jekyll and Hyde!
    15:13 - No chandelier? -50 points.
    16:00 - They could've at least used 'In the Hall of the Mountain King!'
    17:32 - Even Magica de Spell thinks that smoke bomb was weak...
    17:40 - I think they're giving the Disney Princesses a run for their money with how fast this is moving!
    18:20 - "That's nice, Phantom. I-I-I-I need to not be near your crazy right now..."

  • @Zuyuri
    @Zuyuri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “A little more wtf” blocking made me laugh so hard. Diva, this phantom has made my New Years all the more better

  • @MaiNerys426
    @MaiNerys426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pebble and the Penguin. Oh dear. Also holy cow there was so much a melodrama. I’m surprise that the sets were still intact with all the scenery chewing going on. Goodness.

  • @mikigirl18
    @mikigirl18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Darrin de Paul... Oh god, I can TOTALLY imagine him quoting Phantom of the Opera as his character Ardyn from Final Fantasy XIV. XDDD

  • @Anachronismgorl
    @Anachronismgorl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I don’t endorse bootlegs but the names I see for some of those videos are hilarious.

  • @SunflowerSpotlight
    @SunflowerSpotlight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “I’m whatever you want me to be!” *evil laughter* Oh WOW. Just WOW. I wasn’t expecting it to be that bad! That takes the cake, the pie, and the cheesecake, and the cookies, and the brownies. All the brownies in the land!
    EPICALLY BAD.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The gestures in the beginning are so melodramatic and cheesy, that you would think that it was a classical ballet 😂😂😂

    • @MrBlueSkyof1607
      @MrBlueSkyof1607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come to think of it, Raoul wasn't speaking during that moment!

  • @daRiddler32
    @daRiddler32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you! I have been complaining about the shitty makeup of the Schumacher one since it came out and it has fallen on deaf ears! I am overjoyed to finally hear someone else seemingly irritated by its half assed-ness!

  • @jasminnemcdonald94A
    @jasminnemcdonald94A 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw that musical just last month and I became attached to it in an instant. I especially like the song, "Perfect Music."
    I wanted to write my own adaptation of Phantom of the Opera combining the ALW version with the David Staller version and keeping the Leroux storyline.

  • @Wolf10media
    @Wolf10media 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    FINALLY Pebble and the Penguin.

  • @drawnseeker
    @drawnseeker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You review the Takarazuka revue version of phantom of the opera it's a Japanese all female theatre company that's been around for 100 years

    • @elsie8757
      @elsie8757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh, I know them! They did two Phoenix Wright musicals! xD

    • @drawnseeker
      @drawnseeker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elsie8757 they're AMAZINGLY talented and fun.

  • @hello_people5283
    @hello_people5283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The phantom of the opera is there- inside your mind! Yeah, this will stay in my mind. Not in a good way.

  • @gabrielapv01
    @gabrielapv01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:54 gave me life. Wasn't expecting that. This musical hell review is definitely one of my favorites. So fun and interesting

  • @actress5256
    @actress5256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I just say that I’d never seen those names for Great Comet before and now I’m obsessed lol

  • @GuiSmith
    @GuiSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Of course it recommends "Love Never Dies" in the end screen

  • @mitkitty
    @mitkitty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ooh, Pebble and the Penguin next! Cant wait to have to confront my nostalgic affection for it, considering i didnt have many options as a kid and watched it a lot

  • @xeruss1635
    @xeruss1635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Diva, you should consider reviewing the Spiderman musical. You'd have a field day.

  • @leighton5149
    @leighton5149 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you not have more subscribers???
    Your channel is one of my favorites and I love your humor!! Your channel deserves more attention

  • @DrGregoryHouseIT
    @DrGregoryHouseIT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow, Madame Giry has a Sixhead!
    19:19 Nor how many fans of the other musical hoped... for some reason.

  • @avarisclari
    @avarisclari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In my opinion, this is your best review yet. Keep up the good work!

  • @Sabatuar
    @Sabatuar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember coming across this during the height of my teenage PotO obsession. Was never quite certain afterwards that it was real.

  • @morganqorishchi8181
    @morganqorishchi8181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Daroga is oddly charming in this. Guilty pleasure if only for him.

  • @kittylover62
    @kittylover62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm surprised that Donna wasn't here for this review. She does love Phantom stories.

    • @MusicalHell
      @MusicalHell  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Donna's present to Diva was to let her enjoy (for certain values of the term) this one on her own, as a thank you for letting her sit on the Phantom of the Paradise review.

    • @kittylover62
      @kittylover62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@MusicalHell I loved your Phantom of the Paradise review! I didn't think anyone else knew about that movie.

  • @ravenpotter3
    @ravenpotter3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Aggressive 80’s hair!

  • @kevinbramer9922
    @kevinbramer9922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought this DVD years ago and only watched like 10 minutes of it. After seeing your review, I am going to go look for it and watch the whole thing (if I haven't thrown it out after a previous DVD cleanse). Thank you for sharing.

  • @colleen4ever
    @colleen4ever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another fantastic review, Diva! The Pebble and the Penguin?! Oooohhhhh...I can't WAIT!! Best birthday present ever! I hope that means The Thief and the Cobbler will be right around the corner.

  • @TrentonBlessWrestlemania489
    @TrentonBlessWrestlemania489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The "Other" Phantom of the Opera? One of many, more like. You might have to take a look at the Ken Hill version, too.

    • @MusicalHell
      @MusicalHell  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, but calling it the "Other Other Other" Phantom of the Opera would have been confusing.

  • @ezrawells2924
    @ezrawells2924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does this Madame Giry look like she would fit right in with the McPoyle family from Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

  • @sarahshenanigans
    @sarahshenanigans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooh, I thought this was going to be about Kopit and Yeston's Phantom!

  • @goomy6371
    @goomy6371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I saw the title and had a mini heart attack until I saw (other) lol

  • @heidifedor
    @heidifedor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh you need to do Dingo Pictures version of Pocahontas. Dingo is an infamous German mockbuster company, that is most known for ripping off Disney films.

  • @newname34695
    @newname34695 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beetlejuice IS BECOMING A MUSICAL CIMING TO BROADWAY IN APRIL

  • @bunnychu15
    @bunnychu15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never seen this musical but I've sung "This Place is Mine." Based on your review, Carlotta getting to be hammier in that song is probably this musical's second saving grace.

  • @dogvom
    @dogvom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    By "(Other) Phantom" I thought you meant the the *other* other version, the one Maury Yeston and Arthur Kopit wrote before Lloyd Webber wrote his, and which has a far superior score and a better-structured plot than the megahit show.

  • @thejman5683
    @thejman5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here’s something I find funny, apparently, Saban entertainment was involved in this production…. As in, the company that gave us power Rangers

  • @thejanitorross6791
    @thejanitorross6791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my gosh. The music at 13:55 sounds so much like the Prince Charming/henchmen medley in Shrek the 3rd. “Should I run or should I flee.” I can’t unhear this.

  • @pikachucutie17
    @pikachucutie17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have no idea how ready I am for your take on Pebble and the Penguin. You always have such wonderful dissections and Pebble is one of those bad films that fascinates me. Do your best because I am ready.

  • @MichielBLKorte
    @MichielBLKorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This version is low in budget and production but I actually prefer the dialogue to that of Andrew Lloyd Webber. This version lacks the spectacle that is necessary to make Phantom great, but the characters are well-rounded and have a personality outside of their song. Bravo!

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this is the same one that was touring around 1990, I saw this. My then roommate got tickets thinking it was the ALW Phantom and we drove down from Omaha to Kansas City to see it. I have to say, as it dawned on us that this wasn't _the_ Phantom, we wound up in absolute stitches throughout most of it because it was just so bad. I remember us both squealing with laughter at some parts but trying to keep it all in so as not to be rude to the other patrons. All in all, a very memorable evening, so thanks, I guess, faux Phantom.

  • @SarahElisabethJoyal
    @SarahElisabethJoyal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This might be an incredibly petty point, but I like that in this version when people are supposed to be performing opera they use actual opera songs.

  • @solus8685
    @solus8685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My mom got us tickets for a The Phantom Of The Opera musical and sadly it was this one.. I was so disappointed:,/

  • @BunnyLover13456
    @BunnyLover13456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got really excited because I thought this was going to be the Maury Yeston one 😅 It was still interesting to learn about another adaptation though. I know you’ve already done one about the TV adaptation, and I’m not even sure if there is video of Yeston’s version, but PLEASE review it if there is! Love your channel!

  • @IWillBeHers
    @IWillBeHers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh my god, that new tour and it's over-the-top staging! Like...what even is it?

  • @johnpjones182
    @johnpjones182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Isn't there a '70's TV Jeckyll & Hyde musical starring Kirk Douglas? That sounds...um...interesting?

  • @TheBattlesword
    @TheBattlesword 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Look on the bright side: after Pebble and the Penguin, you’ll officially be done with all of Bluth’s crappier movies

  • @phoenixrage1
    @phoenixrage1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I submit another Know the Score request for both the animated film and stage musical of Anastasia, please!

  • @QUEENOBSCURE
    @QUEENOBSCURE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HE MAY BE INSANE! But am glad he managed to make this happen. This is fun to watch!

  • @ssj4jason737
    @ssj4jason737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lon Chaney is the one true phantom.

  • @ScarlettShana
    @ScarlettShana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It seems my jokes about OW Fathom became prophetic

  • @nekobenjy15
    @nekobenjy15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once watched an old animated version of the Phantom. It was the weirdest trip ever. You should check it out

  • @nina__serafina
    @nina__serafina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This feels appropriate for me to watch cause I just got back from musical rehersals.

  • @annieandelsieofarendelle3294
    @annieandelsieofarendelle3294 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Christine's characterization in this and how close it is to the novel. She does pity and cares about Erik, maybe even attracted to him, but she realizes she can't love him in the way he wants her to because she can't sacrifice the things she loves, like her friends, the sun, and the rest of humanity to be with him and be his muse. She is a person, after all, not Erik's songbird who exists just to make him happy, and I feel like that's something people miss about Phantom. The whole point of the book is to show how toxic and abusive Christine and Erik's relationship is and how being it slowly drives her mad from fear.

  • @itsreelydalin
    @itsreelydalin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Though I think it looks more Gold Skeletor, I'll take the Dan Steven's reference XD

  • @remixchild
    @remixchild 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As bad as Joel’s phantom of the opera was, I could at least tell what was going on.

  • @graciegalahad9258
    @graciegalahad9258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually kinda like this adaptation??? Sure, it’s not ALW, but it’s actually pretty well done

  • @wickedfeylady
    @wickedfeylady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Say what you will about this version (and there are many flaws) but I think David Staller has a really nice voice, and I liked that the script *tried* to give Carlotta's character some dimension. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE on the saving grace.

    • @wickedfeylady
      @wickedfeylady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also Diva, thanks for using the pic at 6:37. Hildebrandt is a great artist and he did a wonderful job with this story.

  • @Uncle_Smidge
    @Uncle_Smidge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ehehehe, Carlotta singing the Jewel Song. I wonder if Abe was a Tintin fan! #BiancaCastafioreDidItFirst

  • @pthalobideo
    @pthalobideo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hm. That ending really only works if Christine's story ended tragically, doesn't it? Then again, a version of Phantom of the Opera where the Phantom and the Persian walk away together saying "This is the start of a beautiful friendship" isn't melodramatic enough to properly end a Phantom adaptation with, I suppose. I still kind of feel cheated that they teased it and didn't deliver.
    (Not gonna lie. I've kind of always wanted to have Disney Mockbuster Slumber Party)