Crowds protest Utica officials after teenager fatally shot by police
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- Crowds in Utica, N.Y., protested a press conference held by the city's mayor and police chief following a fatal police shooting of a 13-year-old boy. Body camera and cell phone captured officers approaching Nyah Mway, who reportedly had an air gun in his hand. WKTV's Jolene Ferris reports.
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Don't mug people with a fake gun and then act like its a real gun when running from the police
Oh its guilty until proven innocent now?
@@Mogadypopz No but he trys to run as soon as the police mention they had calls about two muggings with a gun and that they wanted to pat them down which leads me to believe they were the ones doing it, I imagine we'll find out in the coming days
@@Mogadypopz are you dumb? how are they supposed to know is fake ? they have a split second to live or die
Don’t run around with guns and you don’t have police defending their lives. And what about that girl saying the videos didn’t match up with eyewitnesses. Sounds like she thinks the videos were lying. 😂
@@Mogadypopz It's a fact of the case, have you not seen the video? Very open and shut case
After committing two armed robberies, he ran and pointed his gun at police ... what in the world is there to protest except his stupidity?
dont point guns at police fake or not
Agree
Don’t shoot while a little kid is pinned down to the ground
@@jayswifter3752 Nah.. it's sad that he was a kid, but it's no one's fault but his and his parents
@@jayswifter3752 little kid???
@@TomBarbashevit could’ve been his fault but not his parents because no matter how good of a parent you are, your kids won’t always turn out the way you raise them.
What are they outraged about? You don’t EVER point a real or fake gun at an officer. Period.
someone was killed.
a child died! what do you mean?
i am not against the police on this one. I think it's justified. But to think nobody could/should be outraged? You need to get off the internet and talk to real people.
@@imnotmephisto
Someone got killed by their own stupidity.
Deal with the facts not the should've, could've, would've
@@TheBostricano
The lack of human empathy is mind boggling.
You are not that bright. The world you're promoting is not in your best interest, sir.
@@imnotmephisto It is very sad that a 13 year old child's parents failed them in such a fundamental way.
You just want someone/anyone charged over this, well charge the parents !
@imnotmephisto it's not about having empathy, its about knowing the difference between right and wrong, and that kid was in the wrong whether you like it or not.
Are they dumb? The kid aimed a pellet gun that looked like a real gun at police.
What else do you expect when they call an armed robber as an innocent child? How did a 13 year old even got that pellet gun?
The parents and the rioters should be arrested for failing to raise a child
@@cinnap1212 it’s not the kid or the parents fault I been to there house before and stuff Like that, I think he went to go study at a friends house and the friend either gave him the gun or he did and used it as protection which idk if it’s true or not but still he’s a young 13/14 year old boy and decided to shoot him without thinking about anything.
@@maku1367 to protect himself from the authority? are you kidding me? who in their right mind thinks that its okay to point a gun at the police? even if you were in that cop's shoes you would've shot the kid down at least for your own life, you wouldn't know if that gun was fake or not in that situation so you wouldn't have had any other options🤷♂🤷♂
@@cinnap1212 why would I wanna be in that cops shoe and I wouldn’t have shot him I would just question him but unlike that cop he shot him in the heart and I would not do that and I said idk if he was trying to protect himself so next time LOOK 👀 at my writing ✍️
@@cinnap1212 I’m not trying to start a fight but this is the end of talking my notification are done ✅
Act like a thug, get treated like a thug
They are not white
People are stupid. Like if it was a real gun, im sure these people have no problem with the kid shooting at cops
The kid didn’t even have a gun.
Still naive after all these years on earth? 😂
@@jokert615There’s a whole body cam video showing him pointing a gun clear as day but you want to call everyone else naive 😂😂😂
@@jokert615 Don't get too comfortable here, feral invader. Youre going back, too.
I’m a father of two and if my child’s actions led to the consequences of that boy……. I would blame my self.
Why run? Because they were connected to the reported crime.
True
no what if they weren't? some other teens are going to come up turning out to be the ones robbing people
@@mayrbxplayz7954 No, it was them.
@@HotRodCVO proof?
Kid ran because he was afraid of police who have reputation (richly earned ) of trigger happy shooting. Not first nor the last. Hundreds are shot every year with or without cause. Do you read the news?
Wheres the responsibility of the parents? What was a 13 year old doing out late at night robbing people? Who could have known the gun wasn't real?
Practicing his culture
@@conor7154wdym by that
Robbing people? U funny they back from bible study
Really... Bible study that late? With a fake gun on him? Not sure what kind of church out there doing really late Bible study for kids. Its past his curfew.
@sarcasm, right?
They won’t let them explain because they know the kid was in the wrong.
If you use a fake gun as if it was real to rob people you should be treated as if it is real.
Do you know what it is to be a kid at such a young age you delusional kids do stupid thing we all do when being so young !!!!!!
No evidence anyone was robbed
Evidence? Do you think they have time to analyze evidence when in a volatile situation ?It’s easy for you to play Monday morning quarterback.
@@powerness3151 ...hmmm, because if I (a citizen ) chased a 13 year old kid believing they had a real gun and ended up shooting and killing them...and the gun turned out to be fake, I'd be facing manslaughter charges.
So you're basically saying cops have a legal right to indiscriminately murder people
It's Sunday.
The kid showed a gun even though a pellet gun officers had no way of knowing NOT THE OFFICERS FAULT!!
You have never been in a situation like this, the kid was tackled and on the ground. We need police with a warrior mentality not a ok gunslinger mentality,bet you wasn't a john Wayne fan,pun.
@DennisLlewellyn-px2tj cops, even your bobbies have been shot by guys on the ground with guns in hand like this one
Don't raise your child to be a thug.
They are not white
the parents are not the victims, it is not there fault u do not know what goes on in their household, yes he shouldn’t have done that but still don’t point fingers when you don’t know the whole story
100%
No parent want to raise their child to be a thug unless you’re a black person
Yep
Teenagers running around with a real looking pistol! The police don't know it's not real!
So, tell Walmart not to sell toy guns?
@@kkay2000 Walmart didn’t sell that, but nice try.
@kkay2000 it wasn't a toy 🤡
The young man is pull out his gun and running and that's his fault?? Yeah his fault I agree with that..but why the young man on a ground and one of the police officers kneels his on the ground and punch him 2 time and then one of other police officers behind and shooting.. is that OK? 🤷♂️🤷♂️no Justice ...I didn't know they had already had him on the ground and punch him 2 time ?? Still shooting 🤷♂️
13 year old pointed a gun at police. Police Officer justified in taking action to save his life and go home safely to his family.
The parents aren’t victims. The people those teenagers robbed were victims.
oh did they rob YOU? cuz you seem butthurt. It’s literally alleged that they MIGHTIVE been involved in something else, it’s not confirmed, you do know authorities also lie to get away with things right?
@@cuil6631Okay… so why were the police involved in the first place? Why did the kid(s) run? Why point the (fake) gun at the police? Please use common sense here. Occam’s razor and all that.
@@cuil6631 they matched the description lol. What a coincidence right? Lol
So it said in the article that they “match the description” of some robbers. 9 times out of 10 when they find someone that “matches the description” they’re going to stop them and want to question them. That doesn’t mean he was a part of anything. He ran away because he had a pellet gun so obviously at the ripe age of 13, knowing right from wrong, you are going to run because you’re scared to get in trouble. Let’s also not forget that your frontal lobe which is in charge of decision making doesn’t fully develop until 25. Yes it wasn’t a smart move, but you can’t sit here and only see the cops perspective. You should look at all perspectives. Pretty sure you were 13 once.
@@daveg4963No, stupid!
They need to stop blaming the police for the actions of criminals!
Two youths were stopped. On fled, pulled and pointed a gun. The other is still alive today! I rest my case!
❤❤❤TY❤❤❤ Truth is short n sweet!
The young man is pull out his gun and running and that's his fault?? Yeah his fault I agree with that..but why the young man on a ground and one of the police officers kneels his on the ground and punch him 2 time and then one of other police officers behind and shooting.. is that OK? 🤷♂️🤷♂️no Justice
@@KarenArmyofKawThooLei don't point guns at cops, simple as.
Crowds should be protesting outside the parents home and demanding answers from them, not the city. Blame the parents, the police were justified in shooting an individual who pulls a gun while being detained. No way the officers could know it’s only a replica and why was he even carrying a replica gun, trying to look gangsta?
Have you not seen kids playing 'cops 'n robbers' with toy guns?
@@kkay2000YEA! I raised two fantastic boys who didn’t take their toy guns outside!!!!
@@kkay2000 You don’t play cops n robbers with real police and using a gun that is realistic.
❤❤❤Amen Bravo Bravo Bravo
@kkay2000 with actual cops lol no I haven't
Your son was robbing people and pulled out a real looking toy gun on the officer's. This is what happens when you do this, if you don't like how things are done here, you have other options.
I think we should clarify that it wasn't a toy gun but a REPLICA.
There is no proof he robbed anyone. He actually complied at first and only ran away when they wanted to do a pat down (most likely because he had a BB gun)
@@bl-nb8fo so he did not comply lol . jesus you biden voters are some else lol
@@bl-nb8fo”he didnt comply because the cops asked him to comply but actually complied until he was asked to comply”. Ok, sure thing bro. 👌
You sure those two were the robbers cops were looking for? How do you know?
Don’t blame law enforcement!
Lock up the border and toughen immigration laws!
When a kid in the late night hours has gun, real or pellet, is asking to get shot. When police are being shot almost daily, why wouldn't they take this step. Why were those kids not at home? Nothing good comes from being out late at night.
Sneer! Utica so unsafe at 10:30 PM ? LOL! How about movies?
Lol do you live there? I would avoid certain areas during the day. @kkay2000
They'll be mad no matter the reason the officer shot someone. And they are never "satisfied with the answers" the police give because they just want to cause as big of a deal as possible.
They’re looking for a payout!! Gangster lottery!!
It looks like you're the military type. End of story.
@@sheryldt Hey, don't measure others by your standard
@@kkay2000You must be a detective to figure that one out 😂
Those people live in America but only one spoke English. All they did was scream and disrupt the police conference. While I feel compassion for anyone who's lost a child, that boy shouldn't have been out doing no good with a fake firearm.
... no sympathy for non-White?
I’m so sick of these people.
Its selective outrage.
@@LadieKadie what people? 😔
@@pietkroon6548those who refuse to assimilate
0:28 - If you display what appears to be a gun while police are chasing you, what do you expect is going to happen???
Yep. Parents, do a better job of raising your offspring ❤
Oh i forgot to say LOOK OUT AN ACORN!
@@davideast9166 Talking down on immigrant kid from Myanmar, a very conservative country and culture. You got it wrong.
@@kkay2000 sure thing pal👌
This entire room owes the police an apology.
Never
Why people not mad at the parents for their child having a gun fake or not, what do they think he was doing with it?
Do you think the parents would know? Why would a 13 year old kid go up to their parents and be like “oh mom and dad I have a gun”. I’m pretty sure you kept secrets from your parents at 13 that they probably don’t know till this day.
@@jayswifter3752i was smart enough to keep secrets from my parents at that age, but i was never dumb enough to think pointing a replica at a police officer is a good idea at that age. The parents definitely failed at parenting.
So w hy he out at that time?.. doing this?
@@iloled2924 kids are kids, they make mistakes
@@jayswifter3752they probably bought them that pellet gun if you ask me.
Where we’re the parents not knowing the kids were robbing people. So sad for
Loss of life but cops have have a split second to decide to shoot. Those toy guns look real
You sure those two were the robbers cops were looking for? How do you know? Two kids walking down the street. Fits description? Only two kids walking .... and no other kids walking?
@@kkay2000are you sure he was just a 13yo patroling the streets with his hoody with toy? He was growing up wanting to be a police chief. He was just out there doing neighborhood watch.
@@kkay2000 It doesn't matter whether those two teens were the armed robbers or not. Terry v. Ohio says the stop was righteous.
And so was the shoot.
That was not a "toy" gun, bro. It was a Glock replica bb gun. It's no toy.
@@RealityRenegade-bv2ww yes airsoft is also considered by legal definition similar to firearms much like pellets. "Toy" guns. Even prop guns are modded real firearms but ppl consider them "prop guns" when theyre actually firearms.
He pointed a fake gun at the cop.. who's really at fault here. Definitely not the cop. Ya'll are luney.
You and a handful of smooth brain people here are the only looney one I see.
@@benover2786 says the pig killer. Nice try.
@@benover2786noone cares about your opinion. This kid was dum enough to point a replica at a police officer, just imagine the dum b stuff he wouldve done as an adult. He’d probably end up just like you. A total embarrassment.
You sure ? Video too fuzzy. BTW, police are known to plant 'guns' on victims after shooting.
@@benover2786 wah wah, cry me a river.
Why are they always the victims? Take some responsibility for your actions and the horrible parenting that led your son to these consequences. I’m over hearing about this on the daily in the same communities.
It's not in their nature
Horrible parenting? LOL! You're equating every non-White with some other minority. LOL! So naive!
13 year olds don't play with fake guns unless they're up to no good, it was probably used to prank or rob someone.
he was out doing stick ups before this. there were reports.
He had just robbed two people.
@@keysersoze2208 - and that warrants death, does it?
@@RandomFandomDragon If they think its a real gun and its them or you... Of course it does.
@@RandomFandomDragon No but when you point a “potential” weapon at a police officer, guess what’s going to happen? Police will shoot you right away, it’s not rocket science so it’s not hard to understand, because how in the world are the police supposed to know if you have a real gun pointing at them or not. Much more police officers die from similar situations where a suspect now has a real gun pointing at an officer.
1. Don’t have toy or whatever thing you have that looks like a gun in public, especially if it’s a real loaded gun.
2. Don’t point it at anyone, even if it’s a toy. Common sense FFS!!
3. Especially do NOT point it at an officer, as much as you hate police given a situation where they feel threatened and they feel their life is in danger, they have a right to shoot you.
4. Stop whatever is it you’re doing when the police tells you to.
And yeah, even 10 year olds are capable of robbing, endangering someone, and doing other criminal activities.. yes even if they’re just a kid.
Keep your kids on a leash!
Bad culture, bad parenting.
I agree. The bad culture of guns being cool. Everyone needs a gun. Guns are fun.
Kids need toy guns. Absolutely bad culture.
Americans love guns its their culture
stop blaming the parents
Now, you're are accusing the Karen minority of 'bad culture, bad parenting'. LOL! You don't know what you're talking about. White supremacy on display!
Stop blaming the parents
Police officers met a young man with a weapon. They don't have time to negotiate about whether it's a replica or a real gun. The cops are probably pretty upset. But I don't blame them.
Blame the kid. Put the parents in jail.
Ignoring the fact that he was 13 years old, what did he expect to happen when he pulled out a fake gun and pointed it at the officers. Was he going to go “pow pow” and then the cops run away in fear?
People focus way too much on his age. He was 13, not 6. Not quite an adult legally, but more than capable of understanding that you dont point replicas or toy guns at police. If you dont know that by the time youre 13, i doubt youll be a functioning adult at 18 or 21 either. Its all for the best. Imagine the dum b things he wouldve done as an adult.
Maybe the kid was slow brained.
@@iloled2924, 13 is still a child
I saw the body cam video, and as tragic as this is, the kid was in the wrong. It’s almost guaranteed the law supports the actions of the police.
As for the officers, knowing how things usually goes, the one that fired the shot will be marked as unlucky by most of his dept and the blue community overall. It sounds stupid given the nature of the job, but there is a stigma attached to these incidents within LEO circles, no matter how justified it may be. If that officer is not smart enough to navigate that or have the right connections to back him up, it will impact his career. If push comes to shove, he may even be politically sacrificed too.
Don't blame on police. That kids does have a gun. We can see on the video clearly.
Police should background check all protesters, I'm 100 percent certain that there is a APB
The young VICTIMS mother? That kid was not a victim.
They can pack their belongings and move back to Myanmar !!!!!
@@anthonytran7566 If official investigation by the AG indicates officers were not found to have been at fault and the Karen community continues to cause social unrest or public disorder then they need to be deported.
@anthonytran7566 so real, not viets or Chinese ever act like they do, no wonder that junta don't want them
@@longiusaescius2537 Stupid people bred stupid kids, I came to the US as boat refugee and served in Iraq 2 tours never got into trouble with the laws !!!!! I served in the military and don't play with guns !!!!!
@@anthonytran7566that's racist you know that our Karen S'gaw language is also similarities between your Vietnamese language
Bad parenting, bad kids. Kid is dead because his parents forgot to be parents.
So why didn't the kid put his hands up and cooperate. Oh wait he was just robbing someone and police ran up on him and he decided to run and fight back. This mother acting like he was walking down the street and police shot him for no reason. I have alot of empathy but come on. I feel for the mother but you need to teach your child to behave and not rob someone
Also it is traumatic for the cops to shoot anyone. And then to later get protested. I think the cops should protest the protesters.
Typical White folks reaction. Everything involving non-White, the cops are always right.
Imagine pulling out a toy gun thinking nothing will happen.
Consequences have actions
Kid had a gun, ran from the cops, and pointed said gun at the cops. The cops did a good job, the parents did not.
Great example of why PARENTING REFORM and YOUTH CONDUCT REFORM are critically needed in our communities!
People lie, videos do not. So did the lady in green not beleive her own eyes or?
These young men got to stop running from these police officers and playing with them
He was probably robbing their people. Humans simply don’t own their responsibility.
You never point the gun at the police, whether it's true or fake! What a bunch of idiots!
Sad situation overall. The police were justified; they want to go home to their families too. Still a loss of life is a loss of life. This is how the community is going to grieve but I don’t think they should crucify the officers
Don't be using fake guns when people have real ones
You sure those two were the robbers cops were looking for? How do you know?
Don’t play with guns real or fake!
Whats the confusion here? Detained thug ran and pulled a gun on police and was shot.His choice,not the cops.
The mother was outraged in the video, but in reality, she's the point of failure. Her 13-year old son was out at night robbing people with a pellet gun that looked like a real gun. In addition to that, he ran from and pointed the gun at the police.
If you don't want blame the kid, blame the her for the situation.
Oh son. What are you doing with a fake gun, waking around the streets in the middle of the night.
Committing armed robberies.
These people need to control their children. It's not the cop's fault. 😮😮😮
Sneer! Right Wing folks look down on non-Whites and think the immigrants are all bad.
Police don’t have the options to ask is that a real gun. Kids should know what happens if you play this game.
OMG !! YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU PLAY LIKE THAT WITH THE POLICE IT IS NOT GOING TO END WELL HIS PARENTS SHOUL'VE KNOWN TO WARN HIM ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF!! LIKE REALLY
Definitely won't grow up to be a hardcore criminal, failed parenting.
I have a feeling the parents just feel so sad they can’t accept they kid was bad because you never see me running the streets of New York State
No big deal. If he woould reach 20, he probobly would be in jail😢
Justified.
Family doesn't want to take responsibility for the fact that their child pointed a gun at a cop smh. It's not like the kid pulled out a cell phone and the cop thought it was a gun and he shot him. He CLEARLY seen that it was a gun and it became a matter of its either you or me. Was he supposed to wait and see if he got shot in the face before taking action to protect himself? And I understand that regardless of why it happened, that the family is grieving the loss of their child. But it's their child's fault for making an absolutely outrageous decision that he's no longer living smh. For every one finger you point at someone else there's 3 fingers pointing straight back at yourself
teach your kids better and this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
1: kids driving illegally
2: kids flee
3: kids present a replica of a Glock (how are police to know it's not real? Take a chance at getting shot?)
4: kids disobeyed every order by police
5: where were these kids parents?
6: I want to know if they were illegal immigrants!
Obey the law and you won't get shot!
They were a famoly of refugees fleeing a war-torn country
... and trigger happy cops (THREE of them) couldn't handcuff a skinny kid? LOL!
They are refugees that flooded the area...
@kkay2000 watch the video again. The kid took off running before they could even attempt to search him. So there was never an attempt to cuff the kid
@@1zukifoxxxskinfanyeah, cause they were going to search him first
I am from Myanmar, I would blame parents to let this kid get the fake gun first and not teaching well how America is so dangerous to carry a real/fake gun around. It's not officer's fault. They were investigating, he run, he became a suspect, he pointed the fake gun and he was shot. The whole scene is obvious the officers were defending themselves or they would die like former cases. Sorry for this kid. This family doesn't represent our country. Not blaming victims but the kid was dead because of carelessness and not well educated.
Common sense.
All these people out here yelling now, where were any of them when this 13-year-old was running the streets at 10:30 PM with a replica gun robbing people and then running from the police? That would’ve been a good time to be out in the streets yelling and hollering. None of you cared then though. Stop blaming everyone else and do better.
As soon as you pull out a weapon around police, you have forfeited your life
Kudos to the Police officer
This teaches people it's ok to rob someone with a fake gun. The city probably wont pay out anything higher than 10,000 dollars. Thats pretty much his fault. He could of put his hand up and just gone with the police.
So a kid's life is worth just ten grands to you? You sure those two were the robbers cops were looking for? How do you know?
@@kkay2000tell me about the other boy. He didn't run and is alive now. The money isn't what cost this kid his life. It was pointing a gun at a police officer
Run -Reach - Die
That’s how it works
Actually, that’s not how it works.
Police cannot shoot at fleeing suspects. Nobody can.
You should go back to not being braindead.
School. Learn. Not braindead.
That’s how it works.
It’s so simple yet we have to tolerate this BS.
Why not protest the parents for raising a child that would rob people with a weapon?
The teenager was "coming home after an 8th grade barbecue", dressed like a ninja in mission, sporty dark clothing and waving a Glock. Was it a costume barbecue? A ninja slumber party?
It doesn't matter.
If it was fake, does it if you point a gun at somebody and they have a gun to protect themselves, they're going to do so you don't get a chance to say?Is it real so sick of these stupid people thinking that because someone did something stupid?There should have been no repercussions
Sorry for their loss but having fake Or real gun that kid are looking for trouble. No excuses to point at someone . I held my first gun at 12 and never once hide it on me til I got my first concealed permit . What a tragedy 😢
0:51 when the reality of your failures hits and you can't take accountability
I like how they also scream police brutality, but ignore the fact that they tried to give the kid CPR after he was shot.
People who make excuses for this kid are part of the problem. 😳
Nope people that excuse cops are part of the problem.
Why were they running front the police? Why did he point fake gun at police officers?? These people can't act like they are total victims here.
This case isn't as clear as they say. The child had a fake gun and he caused the shooting by aiming the weapon at officers during the evasion attempt. It's a tragedy but this kid caused it.
So the parent and family are just going to overlook the fact that they were out there committing crimes? 😒
Dress and act like a thug, you will be treated like one.
How do you know? You are equating a Myanmar kid with a Black thug. LOL! You know nothing.
Hold the parents accountable! Enough!
They need to go this is America our country don't like it leave
The families fault clearly
If they would have stayed in their own country instead of invading ours he would still be alive today.
that’s not cool
Why do they need an interpreter for an American town hall meeting. If you’re gonna come here, learn the language at least. The disrespectfulness of the parents who won’t even learn the language of the country they live in seems to have rubbed off to the kids who had no respect for the law enforcement of that country.
People defending his stupid behavior says alot.
Stupidity. Never brandish a gun replica or not. The police will see you as a threat. The parents should know! The police is doing their job!
Don’t understand the outrage. Stop pointing a gun at police. Or better yet, when confronted maybe don’t run away at all.
C'mon now! What did they'd expect to happen when you point an expected handgun at a cop! It's the kid fault!
What exactly are they protesting?
They're own stupidity.
@@stevenhrumph5565 "they're" rofl............nice parody
@@vangroover1903 are you literally rolling on the floor laughing?
The murder of a child. Yes murder. He could have been shot somewhere other than the chest. He could have been treated like a child and not chased by armed grown men. He could have not been treated like the *death penalty* is appropriate for what he might have done.
But America only knows one thing: violence. That’s how it was founded.
They don't like how their fellow criminals are treated.
The officer clearly asked " Do you have any weapons?"..The " kid" who talks the talk and runs the walk...13 or not he was presenting an image of himself and he lost.Thank God no innocent people were injured.
Kid did armed robberies with a realistic looking gun, ran from police and pointed the gun at them and then struggled with the cops over the gun on the ground. All indisputable facts; most of which of are on the video. These people are delusional!! I understand the mother not being able to accept facts, but others are using this incident for their own political advantage.
I mean look at the mother's reaction.... unhinged.
Hes speaking english! What interpretation is needed?
Are they legal?
@marianac715 doesn't look like it to me
@marianac715 what's your obsession if they are legal or not.
Sad young man died but he set everything into motion by running with gun in hand
BE THE PARENT- not their friend.
Why was he at home? He’s dead because you’re a terrible parent.
If this parents really cared they should have kept an eye on there son