Hey Dan and Sally, great first impressions here - can't wait for some detailed test, particularly vs R6! Your reviews are absolutely top notch. Well done.
The best review as for today! Truly informative. Thank you. R7 seems to be really a great camera for the birds and macro photography I love. Looks like a camera I was waiting for :)
Don't get it wet, or dusty, or sandy. Or want low light capabilities. Or plan on taking a lot of shots in one go. Do you remember why you didn't upgrade to the 90D? Well they are the same reasons to leave this well alone. The great autofocus doesn't outway the rest.
The r7 has great weather sealing and as for the buffer, idk I’m consistently getting almost double of what I got from my 7D which was about 22/24 shots. With the r7 I get 40/42 shots and that’s while shooting in RAW with a UHS-I card. I think it’s a great upgrade.
You guys do such a great job always. Having your wife there makes a great addition because her viewpoint adds to the conversation rather than review pairs who just agree with each other.
I think Canon have finally found a true winner here, I've been using Canon cameras for years, the R7 is the next step for me, I'm in the queue, and with the R7 my excitement level has leapt skyward. I'm already impatient...
R6 user here and I think this will be a perfect 2nd or B cam to it. R6 covers 90% of my needs but there are times I need a little more resolution, more reach, and more time with 4k60. But I don’t want to spend the money on an R5. This maybe a great option!
Nice I will probably get an R7 to go along with my R5. I have an RP as a second camera now so I will sell it. Will it eventually have a battery grip? As I love my battery grip for my R5. Thanks Dan and Sally!
@@joaomansano145 Vello makes a fantastic battery grip for the RP for years now. I think he means a grip for the R7. Im sure Vello will have one soon after release.
@@michaelbell75 make sense reafding again haha but i think they might release one for the R7 it looks like more the R6 (same battery, almost same size)
Early speculation is that the camera lacks certain tell tale signs that would indicate a battery grip. The door doesn't look as though it was made to be able to be removed, and the mounting holes are not present. Its not been discussed much in these early videos, I think because in some cases they were using pre-production models. But, Gordons' video gives us a pretty good look at it, and there is no lever to pop it off (again though, I think it was a pre-production model). I'm not going to say it is not going to happen, but right now I'm pretty convinced its not, and if/when that news is confirmed its going to be the thing people blow up over this time. But whatevs. Would be dumb to omit that though.
Not sure if it is an upgrade in all regards for your use case. You will lose the juicy full frame bokeh and probably some low light capability (but this might be a now issue since the R7 sensor is a newer gen)...
Can you share low light shots in your next R7 full review ? Specifically night shots/low light shots in bars, live music venues, street scenes and heck, even an astrophotography shot would be helpful!
I pre-ordered mine the 1st day and I can't wait! I want to see that pre-capture feature in action that allows us to get images before we fully press the shutter.
Wow, I ordered this camera because of you guys. Ok, you pushed me over the line. Ok, I am camera nut and I probably would have ordered it anyway, but great initial review, you two!
Would love to see a comparison between the R6 and R7 ISO capabilities. I love the R6 for ISO. Want the R7 for birds and macros. Great video, btw. Very informative. 👌
Jared Polin has RAWs available on his channel. The R& at 4000 ISo has more grain than the Sahara. Just like the 90D did, with the same size sensor..... read into that what you want. But if you are looking for low light capabilities, forget it.
The best Canon R7 initial review posted yet. 11:50 Loved how detailed you got explaining the 4K recording options. I understand that 4K60 Standard has no crop using some kind of line skipped trickery, but can you clarify if there's a crop in 4K60 FINE? I'm considering this over the R6 as the R6 is still quite unsuable for extended periods of time due to the overheating in 4K60. EDIT: I rewatched it. So 4K Fine mode is 30p only??? Is this correct?
Appreciate that! There is a crop in the 4k60 fine. It basically turns it into around a micro 4/3 camera in that mode but it does amount to more detail and more in focus. It could be great for wildlife/sports if your not at a high ISO. 4k Fine is up to 30p so they still have 24p. They do have a 4k60 fine but it's an additional crop that does a full pixel readout
@@michaelbell75 you can still shoot 4K60 without the additional crop, it's just not oversampled so the level of detail goes down a little bit compared to 4k24 fine or the 4k60 crop. I show examples in this video in the video section
This is probably better than the EOS R in almost every way. When I get the camera in I will test to see how much of a difference in quality there really is but the features on the R7 are vastly better as is video
Thanks so much for the new vid. Is this an upgrade for outdoor hybrid sports shooters over the 5D MKIV? focus and reach seem great upgrades, not to mentions the video capabilities. Cheers! Thanks
Thanks! So it's the best you can get for the price that's for sure but it's still not quite the ultimate sports camera in a few ways. But the focus system and video abilities are definitely strong features but the buffer might be a bit limiting for some sports
That was a good passionate review. I shoot the R6 right now, mostly wildlife, and I have been waiting for the R7 for quite a while. The 7Dii was one of my favorite crop sensor cameras. In wildlife photography you can never have too much reach, so a cropped 32MP image will serve my needs much better than the cropped 8MP I get from the R6. Also look forward to the improved AF tracking. The R6 does great with fast primes, such as the 500F4, but struggles with an RF600 or the new RF100-400. The RF100-500 does a bit better, but at F7.1 it’s not optimal. Birds in flight are one of the ultimate challenges. I look forward to putting the R7 through its paces.
I know I wasn't the one asked the question at 7:00 but in my day-job working for my local newspaper, I occasionally have to get photos in court hearings. That's one spot that a silent shutter would be absolutely fantastic. It's not that we're not allowed to shoot (that's what we're there for), but it's still really obnoxious in a quiet room.
E shutter on the R7 should work fine in that situation. The light bulbs are probably good enough that you won't see much banding and there isn't really fast action or panning shots. A lot of wedding reception venues we shoot at though use decorative lights with horrible bulbs that flicker like crazy so those give us issues with E shutter.
I just caved and ordered it, been shooting with the t6i as a hobbiest but, I enjoy shooting sports, food, and landscapes. I also got the kit lens 18mm-150mm lens.
Great review (and great footage!)…I’m not sure a $2k (Canadian) body only should be classified as “entry level”, which I’ve heard in a few reviews. Not sure if its how these cameras get reviewed now, or how the R3-R6 pricing has skewed our perception, but I don’t know too many people running out to spend $2k on a casual camera anymore. The R7 is truly aimed at those of us who have been waiting for an APS-C “complete package” Canon camera for wildlife, sports, travel, or just all-around. Well done Canon…can’t wait to get my hands on one!
Great review. We're very interested in the low light performance. Hopefully you can test that out very well. Otherwise, we are very impressed with this camera as a viable option for our setup.
@@doghouseriley4732 I'm used to shooting basketball in poor light on a 7DII (1/800 at ISO 6400 and f/2.8). It's somewhat noisy, but no one from the athletic department, the players, or their families have ever complained.
before considering this as a second body to 7dmk2, Im quite interested to see if there's a list out of compatable EF lenses without drop in fps, as well as using the older LE-6 and LE-6N batteries lowers your fps.
For the dial+joystick - I like it. The wheel on my 90D controls aperture. Its a PITA to change when you are looking through the viewfinder. I do BBF, so a slight move of the thumb to the left will be a nice change
Please confirm if the R7 has multiple custom modes for video like the R5 (and unlike the R6). Also, please test it with the EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 since there's nothing that wide in RF yet except the full-frame 16mm F/2.8. Thanks.
@@learningcameras I don't know enough about speed boosters but. In theory if it does work would that have any positive impact in the eos R7s low light? capabilities?
10:21 Autofocus AI: Where are the eyes? ... Oh Breast! Photographer: Look up! Autofocus AI: Sorry, I was... Oh wait breast again! Photographer: Look up!
I think ultimately you will want full frame for better low light performance but this camera can absolutely be used if you can't afford the Canon R6 or R5
Hi Dan - when you do your full review please try the 16mm RF as it gives a medium wide full frame equivalent of 25mm - Im looking at that and the 35mm and keeping my fingers crossed that canon copy sony with the 11mm F1.8 in the future - Id have the three focal lengths I need then
Do you think the R7 would be good for astrophotography? I just purchased this on pre-order , so I’m really looking forward to seeing how this performs in the full review .
I find it interesting that this review, along with three others I have watched point this camera to being a great backup for the R5. And you were all in Orlando for Canon sponsored unveiling tour. Is this something Canon planted in your heads or is it possible, just possible, this camera can and will be the main and everyday shooter for a lot of users? As Dan points out, it has the insides (sensor excluded) of the R3. I might add the R5 and R6 both have the dreaded 30 minute video time limit whilst the R7 has unlimited video time as long as you have enough card space and battery power. The relocation of the wheel on the back is no big deal. I'm old enough to recall the introduction of the larger wheel on the back of the Canon cameras and it was odd then, but we all got used to it and that wheel became a fixture on every EOS body. Sometimes change is difficult, because we all get in a comfort zone.
4:11 Clealry seen there is absolutely no weather sealing around the SD card doors. So the moisture from even a light rain has direct access to memory card slots. Personally I would not take this camera to any rain.
Shame 😕 I dont know if it's a preproduction sample, but I hope the final product will have seals, this is a bad idea. I need a camera that can handle brutal rain. And wid etemp ranges and moisture. But I agree the seal thing makes it a no go for rain.
@@mtbboy1993 For a brutal rain you need to look elsewhere. R7 would handle it for may be a minute. Find a site with R6 disassembly and check the ridiculously weak weather sealing. R7 won't be better, rather worse. Night and day to e.g. 5D Mk IV.
I have two R6s and I'm getting the R7 as a back-up. Plus...I love the 'longer reach' and the extra pixels. When using the 70-200mm f2.8 lens it's almost a 140-400mm f2.8 if you crop and get the same pixel dimensions as the R6. Nice review BTW and I subscribed.
@@learningcameras for real sir .. I cant wait to get my hands on this because it fills the needs and jobs that i cover..thanks again for taking the time to answer my question cant wait to see the full review.. one more question does it shoot silen mode where u dont hear it when shooting sports ? example for golf
@@digibreakthe1st12 It does shoot a silent mode (electronic shutter) however, you will see rolling shutter when using this with fast moving subjects like golf. Of course pretty much every camera is like that...a few exceptions would be the Canon R3, Nikon Z9, and Sony A1
Yes and no. Yes, it is basically better in every single area...however, this is technically a slightly lower end camera...more like the 70D than the 7D so the hardware isn't quite up to 7D build quality and the buffer is a bit more limited. But unless you are shooting 15+ fps for 3+ seconds or need crazy rugged build, the R7 would be a great upgrade. As of now, Canon doesn't have a direct upgrade to the 7D
I just bought an r6 but considering swapping it for an r7 for wildlife Would you recommend it why or why not? Can you do a comparison? Also how is low light? Thanks
The 90D had compatibility issues with many lenses due to the sensors pixel density. I wonder if the R7 would have the same issue when adapter older lenses? The sigma 18-35 1.8 ef would be a banger on this.
You can try the micro adjustment... but yeah, they're pretty unforgiving. Sometimes you can have a bad copy of a great lens... I say borrow or rent a lens and do some testing if you can
New sub here, love the content already. Maybe I missed it but how's the 24fps video? Can't wait to dive into your channel to check out previous and future videos!
Thanks! 24fps is amazing, you have a 7k oversampled mode which has amazing detail and a standard mode which is still good but also allows the camera to shoot hours without overheating
@@learningcameras really appreciate the info. I'm set , unless sony blows me away with an upgrade to their aps c line, I'm sticking with canon waiting for Sept.
Hi Dan and Sally! Great video! I have been shooting with my 80D for several years and am looking to upgrade without spending too much. How is the 1080p video quality compared with the 80D? Talking about image quality and high iso performance. I don't shoot 4k so I would love to know if there is a huge improvement with the 1080p setting compared to the 80D.
It's not the mirrorless version of the 7d series, if it was the weather resistance wouldn't be that of a 90d and the button placement would be the same as the R5 and R6. I for one who have two 7d's that I've thrown about, used well beyond the shutter life and still going am really quite disappointed. I was hoping for a R5 even R3 light version like the 7d mkii was a 1DX light.
I really don't think it's a 7D Mark II update honestly. The 7DII successor should have had R5 (or at least R6) level hardware, a top screen, massive weather sealing, battery grips, and a pro level viewfinder. The 7DII was basically an APSC 5D but the R7 isn't an APSC R5. But thankfully Canon didn't cripple the software of the R7 so it's a really powerful camera
I think as others have mentioned, the hardware, build quality, size, weather sealing are not the pro level that the 7D II was. In terms of the software - the AF, FPS, eye and subject detection, it should be a huge upgrade. I think ultimately Canon has realized - as perhaps Nikon realized as well, that a pro level APS-C just can't attract enough buyers. Which would explain why no 7D III and no successor to the NIkon D500 as well. So we get a lower, enthusiast level rather than pro level, camera that should still satisfy a large number of bird and wildlife enthusiasts due to it's AF system that is basically from the $6000 R3, but for $1000 less than if it was a true pro level body.
Many thanks for this video, the information about the model. I am very thankful that the video exists. This is very helpful as a decision-making. I have a small question about the R7 and R10... Do they also have a sensor protector that covers the sensor when the lens is removed?
Hi, great "preview-review"! I'm new to system cameras. I want to do BIF and I'm planning to get t he RF 100-400mm. I'm going to do 99% photos and 1% videos. Will it be a big difference between the R7 and R10 for me? I don't care about the dual slot memory. Does the increase in MP and IBIS justify the 50% price increase of 500$?
Hey! So the extra MP doesn't mean much and if the lens your using has image stabilization, you will be fine without IBIS. But the R7 does have better weather sealing, it's a larger grip which might be better with a 100-400, and the viewfinder is larger and better so there are a few hardware improvements as well.
I initially dismissed this camera as replacement for my 7dmk2 because had expected a stacked sensor and better evf but It's grown on me I've pre ordered. I was wondering if you could try testing AF and image quality with the Metabones EF-RF Speed Booster® ULTRA 0.71x I would love it if it works thank you Dan really looking forward to your in dept review, I will be using this as a birding wildlife camera.
So far I have not seen a sub $4000 camera with a stacked cmos sensor so I wasn't expecting that. Sony would probably be the first to implement that. I'm curious about the adapter as well. Canon didn't have an answer on that question. The EVF isn't amazing but it's not bad enough to not buy it. I think the hardware of this camera is slightly below the 7D but the price is lower as well. I think the 7D2 originally cost 1799 and that was a while ago
@@learningcameras When I say stacked sensor In my mind was comparing this as a birding camera with the OM-1 has both stacked sensor and a very good evf it's certainly a notch above the R7 and good price but I went with R7 because I have Canon lenses. Thanks for the comment.
Hello, guys as always is really nice to watch your video. Well I will wait a bit more but it seems that this is the camera I have been waiting for, kind of, but I would personally love a comparison between the R7 and the R6, in terms of Image Quality and Dynamic Range, also nobody is talking about codecs, is this camera shooting 10 bits in all modes? I own the EOS R and a BMPCC4k, and ideally, I am trying to build a set of equipment that will be like BMPCC4k & BMPCC6k pro and then EOS R6 & EOS R but since the R6 overheats is not a choice for me, now is the overheating in the R7 is more manageable and as you guys said it looks like the only modes that overheat are the ones oversampling from 7k I think it will definitely be a good companion to my EOS R (EOS R7 A cam, EOS R B cam)I don't really care about APSC or full-frame just quality and AF.
I am so excited about this camera! I live close to Pensacola and love photographing the Blue Angels practices and shows! I’m currently using the 80D with the EF100-400mm L II and getting some pretty good captures. But I’ll definitely be getting an adapter ring when I get the R7 and taking it to a whole new level I’m sure! Have you heard if there will be a battery grip for the R7? I’m thinking that would prove to be most useful. Thanks again for this “mini” review. I’ve just subscribed and will definitely be looking forward to your in-depth review later!
Awesome! I don't know if there will be a battery grip option but I'm leaning towards a no. I used the 100-500mm RF lens with the R7 and the combo was amazing. Appreciate the sub!
@@learningcameras Have owned the 70d 80d 90d and now the R5... BUT, I miss the crop factor at times. Did you see ANY difference in SNR vs. the 90d? I'm hoping a 1/3 - 2/3rds of a stop in gained efficiency... wishful thinking?
Great review. Only I wish you'd compare this to the 7DMkII instead of the 90D. The 90D is one level below the 7DII that this R7 replaces. The R10 appears to replace the 90D, imho.
With 30fps/15 mech; R5/R3 like focus performance dual card slots; superior video options.... who the hell wants a 7Dmkii comparison. Don't waste our time Dan... 7DMkii is long gone. I am so glad i didn't sell off all my EF-s sigma, tokina, tamron and Canon lenses. HUGE INVENTORY OF LENSES & VARIABLE ND FILTER BUILT IN.... I am so excited to use the Rf-EF vND adapter ... WOW i am going to have fun with this!!!!!! R7 for me.
@@j.kimmer1509 I switched to the RP for quite a while now. I still have the 7DII and the 5DSR. They still have their places, especially the 5DSR - its 50Mp cannot be beaten. I'm getting the R6 (I don't need the R5 because I have the 5DSR for high-resolution work). I used to do action and BIF quite a bit but lately, I got tired of it as I felt I've got all of the action photos I like. Eventually, I will get the R7 once I get back into action shooting...for action shooting it will be unbeatable.
@@TonghoPhotography Thank you for sharing yourself, i deeply appreciate it. 5DSR was my dream camera when i was washing dished to survive and eat. I am excited about the R7, my 80D is collecting dust and currently using the R3, R5, R6 other bodies from Nikon and Sony (sold my A1 to get my money back) R7 will be an awesome kit as an APSc sensor with the perks of the R3 with greater resolution. Be blessed my brother and wishing you good health and prosperity.
So, if I understand good - 4K60 FPS in a crop mode is oversampled from 7K, right? Does 4K60fps is still 10bit? How about 1080p120 - 10 or 8bit? How about dynamic range? Possibly better than for example R6 or maybe worse? And thanks a mil for this awesome and detailed review!
So in the crop mode, it's cropped in so it's a 1 to 1 read out from 4k. I'm verifying the 10 bit but I believe it's 10 bit as long as your in log. Dynamic range will be worse than the R6 but not by much
@@learningcameras But is the DR and ISO better than the R? That's the main question i need answer. At 3200 my R starts to be a problem. My R5 can do 6400 before its a problem.
Very tough choice. Technically the R7 is a higher end camera but having full frame at the same price is CRAZY tempting. If you can live without a full frame camera...like if you're upgrading from an old APSC camera and have APSC lenses, I'd stick with the R7. But for what I shoot, full frame is a big upgrade so losing a couple features to get it for the same price is tempting
@@beastgaming8675 The R8 will give you better image quality while the R7 has better hardware...it's just a choice. The R6II gives you both quality and the better hardware but it also costs about $1000 more
The sunglasses part proves that this camera has a perfect autofocus system for my use cases.
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hahahaha looked up for a comment like this when I saw that part of the video :D
Thats it. Im getting an R7.
"when the autofocus couldn't detect an eye, it reverted to 'object tracking'....... ( . )( . )
lol
Ha!
Would love an R7 follow up video!
Hey Dan and Sally, great first impressions here - can't wait for some detailed test, particularly vs R6! Your reviews are absolutely top notch. Well done.
Appreciate that!
The best review as for today! Truly informative. Thank you. R7 seems to be really a great camera for the birds and macro photography I love. Looks like a camera I was waiting for :)
Thanks so much!
Finally.. some real info on the video specs and capabilities. Thank you!
For a 7DII bird photographer with lots of EF glass, the R7 with EF adapter is a no brainer - ordered!
Don't get it wet, or dusty, or sandy. Or want low light capabilities. Or plan on taking a lot of shots in one go. Do you remember why you didn't upgrade to the 90D? Well they are the same reasons to leave this well alone. The great autofocus doesn't outway the rest.
@@doghouseriley4732 thanks for saving me from spending $1800.
@@doghouseriley4732 According to Canon it still has magnesium body and extensive weather sealing. So I wouldn't worry about weathersealing too much.
The r7 has great weather sealing and as for the buffer, idk I’m consistently getting almost double of what I got from my 7D which was about 22/24 shots. With the r7 I get 40/42 shots and that’s while shooting in RAW with a UHS-I card. I think it’s a great upgrade.
You guys do such a great job always. Having your wife there makes a great addition because her viewpoint adds to the conversation rather than review pairs who just agree with each other.
Means so much!!!!
Thank you so much Sally and Dan for all those awesome information you generously shared with the world about R7! I learnt a lot! God bless you both!
After years of canon, i went to sony, and now im back to canon with the R5. This R7 im gonna buy it also.
How i can get great bouquet with this camera?
I think Canon have finally found a true winner here, I've been using Canon cameras for years, the R7 is the next step for me, I'm in the queue, and with the R7 my excitement level has leapt skyward. I'm already impatient...
would love to see a low light test as well as a test with some of the prime RF glass
R6 user here and I think this will be a perfect 2nd or B cam to it. R6 covers 90% of my needs but there are times I need a little more resolution, more reach, and more time with 4k60. But I don’t want to spend the money on an R5. This maybe a great option!
Nice I will probably get an R7 to go along with my R5. I have an RP as a second camera now so I will sell it. Will it eventually have a battery grip? As I love my battery grip for my R5. Thanks Dan and Sally!
I think it's easier to have an RP mk II than the RP getting a battery grip
@@joaomansano145 Vello makes a fantastic battery grip for the RP for years now. I think he means a grip for the R7. Im sure Vello will have one soon after release.
@@michaelbell75 make sense reafding again haha but i think they might release one for the R7 it looks like more the R6 (same battery, almost same size)
Early speculation is that the camera lacks certain tell tale signs that would indicate a battery grip. The door doesn't look as though it was made to be able to be removed, and the mounting holes are not present. Its not been discussed much in these early videos, I think because in some cases they were using pre-production models. But, Gordons' video gives us a pretty good look at it, and there is no lever to pop it off (again though, I think it was a pre-production model). I'm not going to say it is not going to happen, but right now I'm pretty convinced its not, and if/when that news is confirmed its going to be the thing people blow up over this time. But whatevs. Would be dumb to omit that though.
I’m a wedding videographer, I currently own an EOS R, I hope you guy can make a comparison to see if it is worth upgrade from a full frame to apsc.
Not sure if it is an upgrade in all regards for your use case. You will lose the juicy full frame bokeh and probably some low light capability (but this might be a now issue since the R7 sensor is a newer gen)...
Duddddde seriously next level man. Those alligator shots tho 😬
Appreciate that man!!! Was awesome getting to hang again
You are the kindest, Manny! Loved getting to see you! 🤗
It would be awesome if you guys compare the R7 vs the 90D and the R10 vs T8i.
Can you share low light shots in your next R7 full review ? Specifically night shots/low light shots in bars, live music venues, street scenes and heck, even an astrophotography shot would be helpful!
Here are the upcoming APS-C lenses:
Canon RF-S 22mm f/2 STM
Canon RF-S 11-55mm f/4-4.5 IS STM
Canon RF-S 55-250mm f/4.5-7.1 IS STM
Canon RF-S 16-55mm f/2.8 IS USM
Canon RF-S 32mm f/1.4 STM
would be good to see a ultra wide angle lens with a lower f-stop, since we do have the 10-18 already
I pre-ordered mine the 1st day and I can't wait! I want to see that pre-capture feature in action that allows us to get images before we fully press the shutter.
Is this better then the EOS R in low light for photo? Witch one would you prefer for photo in low light?
I’d like to see how this camera works with a focal reducer ef to rf converter
Wow, I ordered this camera because of you guys. Ok, you pushed me over the line. Ok, I am camera nut and I probably would have ordered it anyway, but great initial review, you two!
Hahaha...thanks Anthony!
Great video!! Can you record video on both cards? Also can you have custom video settings on the 3 custom buttons?
Yes you can record video to both cards and customize video settings to the custom buttons!
@@learningcameras great! Looking forward to the full review!!
Would love to see a comparison between the R6 and R7 ISO capabilities. I love the R6 for ISO. Want the R7 for birds and macros. Great video, btw. Very informative. 👌
Jared Polin has RAWs available on his channel. The R& at 4000 ISo has more grain than the Sahara. Just like the 90D did, with the same size sensor..... read into that what you want. But if you are looking for low light capabilities, forget it.
@@doghouseriley4732 Curious how it compares noise-wise with the 7DII.
The best Canon R7 initial review posted yet. 11:50 Loved how detailed you got explaining the 4K recording options. I understand that 4K60 Standard has no crop using some kind of line skipped trickery, but can you clarify if there's a crop in 4K60 FINE? I'm considering this over the R6 as the R6 is still quite unsuable for extended periods of time due to the overheating in 4K60. EDIT: I rewatched it. So 4K Fine mode is 30p only??? Is this correct?
Appreciate that! There is a crop in the 4k60 fine. It basically turns it into around a micro 4/3 camera in that mode but it does amount to more detail and more in focus. It could be great for wildlife/sports if your not at a high ISO. 4k Fine is up to 30p so they still have 24p. They do have a 4k60 fine but it's an additional crop that does a full pixel readout
@@learningcameras Thats a shame. No idea why its so hard to get 4K60p without a crop on a small sensor camera.
@@michaelbell75 you can still shoot 4K60 without the additional crop, it's just not oversampled so the level of detail goes down a little bit compared to 4k24 fine or the 4k60 crop. I show examples in this video in the video section
Would like to see R7's performance in recording 4k videos of music videos and low light concerts.
great review video. im thinking about getting it over canon eos r what you think is it better then canon eos r?
This is probably better than the EOS R in almost every way. When I get the camera in I will test to see how much of a difference in quality there really is but the features on the R7 are vastly better as is video
@@learningcameras thanks
I’m really confused between Sony a7iv and canon r6 for video please help
Great review, Thank you
Thanks so much for the new vid. Is this an upgrade for outdoor hybrid sports shooters over the 5D MKIV? focus and reach seem great upgrades, not to mentions the video capabilities. Cheers! Thanks
Thanks! So it's the best you can get for the price that's for sure but it's still not quite the ultimate sports camera in a few ways. But the focus system and video abilities are definitely strong features but the buffer might be a bit limiting for some sports
@@learningcamerasthanks. appreciate your views as always
That was a good passionate review. I shoot the R6 right now, mostly wildlife, and I have been waiting for the R7 for quite a while. The 7Dii was one of my favorite crop sensor cameras. In wildlife photography you can never have too much reach, so a cropped 32MP image will serve my needs much better than the cropped 8MP I get from the R6. Also look forward to the improved AF tracking. The R6 does great with fast primes, such as the 500F4, but struggles with an RF600 or the new RF100-400. The RF100-500 does a bit better, but at F7.1 it’s not optimal. Birds in flight are one of the ultimate challenges. I look forward to putting the R7 through its paces.
How's that dynamic range tho ?
Great reviews folks. The glass is definitely over half full with this camera offering in features ,price. Etc. 😀
Ordered mine yesterday, should pair nicely with my 100-500 lens! I think it will be much better than using my R6 with a teleconverter.
I know I wasn't the one asked the question at 7:00 but in my day-job working for my local newspaper, I occasionally have to get photos in court hearings. That's one spot that a silent shutter would be absolutely fantastic. It's not that we're not allowed to shoot (that's what we're there for), but it's still really obnoxious in a quiet room.
E shutter on the R7 should work fine in that situation. The light bulbs are probably good enough that you won't see much banding and there isn't really fast action or panning shots. A lot of wedding reception venues we shoot at though use decorative lights with horrible bulbs that flicker like crazy so those give us issues with E shutter.
I just caved and ordered it, been shooting with the t6i as a hobbiest but, I enjoy shooting sports, food, and landscapes. I also got the kit lens 18mm-150mm lens.
I have no interest in buying one but I’m going to watch the entire thing anyway! Love the work from both of you!!
Means a lot Ben!
Why do you not have any interest in buying one?
Que lente es el que están usando?
Please make a video on comparing canon 90 & r7
Great review (and great footage!)…I’m not sure a $2k (Canadian) body only should be classified as “entry level”, which I’ve heard in a few reviews. Not sure if its how these cameras get reviewed now, or how the R3-R6 pricing has skewed our perception, but I don’t know too many people running out to spend $2k on a casual camera anymore. The R7 is truly aimed at those of us who have been waiting for an APS-C “complete package” Canon camera for wildlife, sports, travel, or just all-around. Well done Canon…can’t wait to get my hands on one!
Excellent video! I’ve been waiting for a second camera for my R5 to replace my old 7D MKII. This is it.
On the full review can you talk about more of c-log 3 😁
You bet!
@@learningcameras thanks bro
What RF lenses tiu recommend for blogging and podcasting
Great review. We're very interested in the low light performance. Hopefully you can test that out very well. Otherwise, we are very impressed with this camera as a viable option for our setup.
You forgot to mention 10 bit video in APS-C camera. It is the game changer for me.
It would be good to have more on low light performance on real world moving subjects
All the bird in flight shots were 3200 iso and most of the soccer video was 1600 iso
No it wouldn't. The 90D sensor can't handle low light well
@@doghouseriley4732 I'm used to shooting basketball in poor light on a 7DII (1/800 at ISO 6400 and f/2.8). It's somewhat noisy, but no one from the athletic department, the players, or their families have ever complained.
before considering this as a second body to 7dmk2, Im quite interested to see if there's a list out of compatable EF lenses without drop in fps, as well as using the older LE-6 and LE-6N batteries lowers your fps.
For the dial+joystick - I like it. The wheel on my 90D controls aperture. Its a PITA to change when you are looking through the viewfinder. I do BBF, so a slight move of the thumb to the left will be a nice change
Please confirm if the R7 has multiple custom modes for video like the R5 (and unlike the R6). Also, please test it with the EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 since there's nothing that wide in RF yet except the full-frame 16mm F/2.8. Thanks.
How that lowlight?
Does the metabones speedbooster work on the R7 to get full frame??
Please let me know if you find an answer!
In theory, yes but I'm hoping to test that out when I get the camera back in
@@learningcameras I don't know enough about speed boosters but. In theory if it does work would that have any positive impact in the eos R7s low light? capabilities?
Best apsc? Waiting for comparison
Coming soon
Brilliant review! Thank you:)
Thanks!!!
Yes Please, Can you test R7 vs EosR using the atomos ninja v... I wanted to know if it could be a good B-cam... Thanks
A very interesting comparison would be R7 vs EOS R with RF glass on both like RF 14-35 F4 L
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Autofocus AI: Where are the eyes? ... Oh Breast!
Photographer: Look up!
Autofocus AI: Sorry, I was... Oh wait breast again!
Photographer: Look up!
Hi there...
Does it have the strength to be the main camera for a wedding photographer.
I think ultimately you will want full frame for better low light performance but this camera can absolutely be used if you can't afford the Canon R6 or R5
@@learningcameras Can a good glass bring some nice output compared with full frame? Thanks for your support 👍
Hi Dan - when you do your full review please try the 16mm RF as it gives a medium wide full frame equivalent of 25mm - Im looking at that and the 35mm and keeping my fingers crossed that canon copy sony with the 11mm F1.8 in the future - Id have the three focal lengths I need then
Will it pair perfectly with the RF800mm f11??
Did you notice if the R7 was able to record video to both SD card slots at the same time for instant backup?
Do you think the R7 would be good for astrophotography? I just purchased this on pre-order , so I’m really looking forward to seeing how this performs in the full review .
I’m hoping this will be good for event work. I’m a hybrid shooter looking for a replacement for my GH5 if possible.
I find it interesting that this review, along with three others I have watched point this camera to being a great backup for the R5. And you were all in Orlando for Canon sponsored unveiling tour. Is this something Canon planted in your heads or is it possible, just possible, this camera can and will be the main and everyday shooter for a lot of users? As Dan points out, it has the insides (sensor excluded) of the R3. I might add the R5 and R6 both have the dreaded 30 minute video time limit whilst the R7 has unlimited video time as long as you have enough card space and battery power. The relocation of the wheel on the back is no big deal. I'm old enough to recall the introduction of the larger wheel on the back of the Canon cameras and it was odd then, but we all got used to it and that wheel became a fixture on every EOS body. Sometimes change is difficult, because we all get in a comfort zone.
got to see what the X-H2 brings now, it certainly has the lens advantage though...
Been waiting on that for years lol
@@learningcameras isn't the fuji summit on the 30th this month? we should finally see it, hopefully...
Excellent review mate. Quick question though - Is this camera compatible with Tamron's telephoto lenses? 600mm?
It should be with an EF adapter but I haven't tested the results
4:11 Clealry seen there is absolutely no weather sealing around the SD card doors. So the moisture from even a light rain has direct access to memory card slots.
Personally I would not take this camera to any rain.
Shame 😕 I dont know if it's a preproduction sample, but I hope the final product will have seals, this is a bad idea. I need a camera that can handle brutal rain. And wid etemp ranges and moisture. But I agree the seal thing makes it a no go for rain.
@@mtbboy1993 For a brutal rain you need to look elsewhere. R7 would handle it for may be a minute.
Find a site with R6 disassembly and check the ridiculously weak weather sealing. R7 won't be better, rather worse. Night and day to e.g. 5D Mk IV.
I can't see anything yet! Must be busy uploading lol. So excited!!!!!
I have two R6s and I'm getting the R7 as a back-up. Plus...I love the 'longer reach' and the extra pixels. When using the 70-200mm f2.8 lens it's almost a 140-400mm f2.8 if you crop and get the same pixel dimensions as the R6. Nice review BTW and I subscribed.
Awesome! Appreciate that Harrison
I have a question does the 1080 120p the auto focus is not cripple like the 90d and canon m6 mark2 ? By the way great review
Thanks! You still get full autofocus while shooting 120p
@@learningcameras for real sir .. I cant wait to get my hands on this because it fills the needs and jobs that i cover..thanks again for taking the time to answer my question cant wait to see the full review.. one more question does it shoot silen mode where u dont hear it when shooting sports ? example for golf
@@digibreakthe1st12 It does shoot a silent mode (electronic shutter) however, you will see rolling shutter when using this with fast moving subjects like golf. Of course pretty much every camera is like that...a few exceptions would be the Canon R3, Nikon Z9, and Sony A1
useful review.
Is the price fixed now?
Can you compare R7 against the GH6 or GH5s? The unlimited record time puts them head-to-head now.
13:58 4K60 Fine? I dont really see you can select that option, am i wrong?
They don't call it "fine" but it's the same thing where instead of pixel binning/line skipping, it offers a full pixel readout for better quality
i am using EOS 7D, this is a worthwhile upgrade? 🤔
Yes and no. Yes, it is basically better in every single area...however, this is technically a slightly lower end camera...more like the 70D than the 7D so the hardware isn't quite up to 7D build quality and the buffer is a bit more limited. But unless you are shooting 15+ fps for 3+ seconds or need crazy rugged build, the R7 would be a great upgrade. As of now, Canon doesn't have a direct upgrade to the 7D
Very Interessengruppen Video! Could you test the CLog3 in the Full Review? Thx
Who were models for this shoot? This video was amazing, I really want to jump into the RF mount using the Canon R7!
Could you compare the low light shots to R5/R6. Is is similar or way apart?
I just bought an r6 but considering swapping it for an r7 for wildlife
Would you recommend it why or why not?
Can you do a comparison?
Also how is low light? Thanks
Keep the R6 for low light performance full frame. Add the R7 ... nice to have 2 bodies with same lens mount and use the same battery.
R6 is such a bad value. Get the R7 !
@@hellolau how?
The 90D had compatibility issues with many lenses due to the sensors pixel density. I wonder if the R7 would have the same issue when adapter older lenses? The sigma 18-35 1.8 ef would be a banger on this.
That and the 50-100 are the first lenses I want with this camera lol
Damn what a combo that will be
You can try the micro adjustment... but yeah, they're pretty unforgiving. Sometimes you can have a bad copy of a great lens... I say borrow or rent a lens and do some testing if you can
New sub here, love the content already. Maybe I missed it but how's the 24fps video? Can't wait to dive into your channel to check out previous and future videos!
Thanks! 24fps is amazing, you have a 7k oversampled mode which has amazing detail and a standard mode which is still good but also allows the camera to shoot hours without overheating
@@learningcameras really appreciate the info. I'm set , unless sony blows me away with an upgrade to their aps c line, I'm sticking with canon waiting for Sept.
Hi Dan and Sally! Great video! I have been shooting with my 80D for several years and am looking to upgrade without spending too much. How is the 1080p video quality compared with the 80D? Talking about image quality and high iso performance. I don't shoot 4k so I would love to know if there is a huge improvement with the 1080p setting compared to the 80D.
video stills interest me are they 6k?
Would be nice to compare to its logical predecessor the
Canon 7D mark ii
It's not the mirrorless version of the 7d series, if it was the weather resistance wouldn't be that of a 90d and the button placement would be the same as the R5 and R6. I for one who have two 7d's that I've thrown about, used well beyond the shutter life and still going am really quite disappointed. I was hoping for a R5 even R3 light version like the 7d mkii was a 1DX light.
I really don't think it's a 7D Mark II update honestly. The 7DII successor should have had R5 (or at least R6) level hardware, a top screen, massive weather sealing, battery grips, and a pro level viewfinder. The 7DII was basically an APSC 5D but the R7 isn't an APSC R5. But thankfully Canon didn't cripple the software of the R7 so it's a really powerful camera
But will the r7 outshoot the 7d mark ii? Seems like it will anyway even if we lose some of the good we have with the mark ii?
I think as others have mentioned, the hardware, build quality, size, weather sealing are not the pro level that the 7D II was. In terms of the software - the AF, FPS, eye and subject detection, it should be a huge upgrade. I think ultimately Canon has realized - as perhaps Nikon realized as well, that a pro level APS-C just can't attract enough buyers. Which would explain why no 7D III and no successor to the NIkon D500 as well. So we get a lower, enthusiast level rather than pro level, camera that should still satisfy a large number of bird and wildlife enthusiasts due to it's AF system that is basically from the $6000 R3, but for $1000 less than if it was a true pro level body.
2:45 heavier than I thought. Nikon Z7 II is only 615g (not sure if that's without the battery, but still...)
I think that's without the battery but yeah, not a massive difference
Cool video! Question, money no object, for air shows and wildlife which body, the R5 Or R7?
Many thanks for this video, the information about the model. I am very thankful that the video exists. This is very helpful as a decision-making.
I have a small question about the R7 and R10... Do they also have a sensor protector that covers the sensor when the lens is removed?
I have seen on another video that the R7 has a sensor protector. The R10 does not.
@@anns_toypix Big thanks for give me this hint. It's very helpful for my decision
The R7 does have the sensor protection
@@learningcameras big thanks for the hint. It's helpful for my decicion
Hi, great "preview-review"! I'm new to system cameras. I want to do BIF and I'm planning to get t he RF 100-400mm. I'm going to do 99% photos and 1% videos. Will it be a big difference between the R7 and R10 for me? I don't care about the dual slot memory. Does the increase in MP and IBIS justify the 50% price increase of 500$?
Hey! So the extra MP doesn't mean much and if the lens your using has image stabilization, you will be fine without IBIS. But the R7 does have better weather sealing, it's a larger grip which might be better with a 100-400, and the viewfinder is larger and better so there are a few hardware improvements as well.
I initially dismissed this camera as replacement for my 7dmk2 because had expected a stacked sensor and better evf but It's grown on me I've pre ordered. I was wondering if you could try testing AF and image quality with the Metabones EF-RF Speed Booster® ULTRA 0.71x I would love it if it works thank you Dan really looking forward to your in dept review, I will be using this as a birding wildlife camera.
So far I have not seen a sub $4000 camera with a stacked cmos sensor so I wasn't expecting that. Sony would probably be the first to implement that. I'm curious about the adapter as well. Canon didn't have an answer on that question. The EVF isn't amazing but it's not bad enough to not buy it. I think the hardware of this camera is slightly below the 7D but the price is lower as well. I think the 7D2 originally cost 1799 and that was a while ago
@@learningcameras When I say stacked sensor In my mind was comparing this as a birding camera with the OM-1 has both stacked sensor and a very good evf it's certainly a notch above the R7 and good price but I went with R7 because I have Canon lenses. Thanks for the comment.
When can we buy it lol
Link in the video description. Should be shipping in about 3-4 weeks!
Hello, guys as always is really nice to watch your video. Well I will wait a bit more but it seems that this is the camera I have been waiting for, kind of, but I would personally love a comparison between the R7 and the R6, in terms of Image Quality and Dynamic Range, also nobody is talking about codecs, is this camera shooting 10 bits in all modes? I own the EOS R and a BMPCC4k, and ideally, I am trying to build a set of equipment that will be like BMPCC4k & BMPCC6k pro and then EOS R6 & EOS R but since the R6 overheats is not a choice for me, now is the overheating in the R7 is more manageable and as you guys said it looks like the only modes that overheat are the ones oversampling from 7k I think it will definitely be a good companion to my EOS R (EOS R7 A cam, EOS R B cam)I don't really care about APSC or full-frame just quality and AF.
I agree
Yussss ❤️ loved this camera!
This is wild! Does the R7 have clean hdmi out?
Yep!
Would test and review with adaptor and EF/S lenses?
Great video!
Do you think Canon will remove the 30 min limit on the R5 and R6 with a future firmware update?
I talked to some of the Canon engineers and begged them to lol. They seemed to suggest they might but I have absolutely no idea
I am so excited about this camera! I live close to Pensacola and love photographing the Blue Angels practices and shows! I’m currently using the 80D with the EF100-400mm L II and getting some pretty good captures. But I’ll definitely be getting an adapter ring when I get the R7 and taking it to a whole new level I’m sure! Have you heard if there will be a battery grip for the R7? I’m thinking that would prove to be most useful. Thanks again for this “mini” review. I’ve just subscribed and will definitely be looking forward to your in-depth review later!
Awesome! I don't know if there will be a battery grip option but I'm leaning towards a no. I used the 100-500mm RF lens with the R7 and the combo was amazing. Appreciate the sub!
@@learningcameras Have owned the 70d 80d 90d and now the R5... BUT, I miss the crop factor at times. Did you see ANY difference in SNR vs. the 90d? I'm hoping a 1/3 - 2/3rds of a stop in gained efficiency... wishful thinking?
@@learningcameras BTW: The 90d files play MUCH better with Topaz vs. my R5... apples/oranges I know, but dayum!!
Great review. Only I wish you'd compare this to the 7DMkII instead of the 90D. The 90D is one level below the 7DII that this R7 replaces. The R10 appears to replace the 90D, imho.
With 30fps/15 mech; R5/R3 like focus performance dual card slots; superior video options.... who the hell wants a 7Dmkii comparison. Don't waste our time Dan... 7DMkii is long gone. I am so glad i didn't sell off all my EF-s sigma, tokina, tamron and Canon lenses. HUGE INVENTORY OF LENSES & VARIABLE ND FILTER BUILT IN.... I am so excited to use the Rf-EF vND adapter ... WOW i am going to have fun with this!!!!!! R7 for me.
@@j.kimmer1509 Did you even watch the video? They kept comparing the R7 against the 90D DSLR, which is not the old DSLR equivalence.
@@TonghoPhotography Bro, are you still using the an OVF DSLR? Brah! It's time for the R7 Brah! I'll buy you a beer.~!
@@j.kimmer1509 I switched to the RP for quite a while now. I still have the 7DII and the 5DSR. They still have their places, especially the 5DSR - its 50Mp cannot be beaten. I'm getting the R6 (I don't need the R5 because I have the 5DSR for high-resolution work). I used to do action and BIF quite a bit but lately, I got tired of it as I felt I've got all of the action photos I like. Eventually, I will get the R7 once I get back into action shooting...for action shooting it will be unbeatable.
@@TonghoPhotography Thank you for sharing yourself, i deeply appreciate it. 5DSR was my dream camera when i was washing dished to survive and eat. I am excited about the R7, my 80D is collecting dust and currently using the R3, R5, R6 other bodies from Nikon and Sony (sold my A1 to get my money back) R7 will be an awesome kit as an APSc sensor with the perks of the R3 with greater resolution. Be blessed my brother and wishing you good health and prosperity.
So, if I understand good - 4K60 FPS in a crop mode is oversampled from 7K, right? Does 4K60fps is still 10bit? How about 1080p120 - 10 or 8bit?
How about dynamic range? Possibly better than for example R6 or maybe worse?
And thanks a mil for this awesome and detailed review!
So in the crop mode, it's cropped in so it's a 1 to 1 read out from 4k. I'm verifying the 10 bit but I believe it's 10 bit as long as your in log.
Dynamic range will be worse than the R6 but not by much
@@learningcameras But is the DR and ISO better than the R? That's the main question i need answer. At 3200 my R starts to be a problem. My R5 can do 6400 before its a problem.
I can confirm it is 10bit 422 with clog 3 and iso performance in log is solid till about 3200 and usable to 6400 in my opinion
@@learningcameras is the iso performance, Dynamic range and the 4k quality better than the R? They are the same price now.
Which is good R7-R8 camera for hybrid use
Very tough choice. Technically the R7 is a higher end camera but having full frame at the same price is CRAZY tempting. If you can live without a full frame camera...like if you're upgrading from an old APSC camera and have APSC lenses, I'd stick with the R7. But for what I shoot, full frame is a big upgrade so losing a couple features to get it for the same price is tempting
@@learningcameras so r7 is good choice for heavy potrait and fast moving objects over r8 ?
@@beastgaming8675 The R8 will give you better image quality while the R7 has better hardware...it's just a choice. The R6II gives you both quality and the better hardware but it also costs about $1000 more
Whould you recommend this camera for Landscape