Starting My 2000 Dodge Cummins After Sitting For 3 Years
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Join me, Farmer Grayce, as I take on a journey back in time to bring my first love, a 2000 Dodge Ram 2500 5-speed with a 5.9 Cummins engine, back to life. It's been a silent sentinel on my farm for the last three years, but today, I'm determined to break that silence. Watch as I tackle the broken pedal assembly and stumble into a fuel injection mystery that's keeping my old friend from roaring once again. This isn't just about fixing a truck; it's about rekindling memories and the satisfaction of overcoming mechanical challenges. Will patience and perseverance pay off? Let's find out together.
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Thank you!
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Hi Grayce I am a retired school bus mechanic and farmer and the cummins ISB that is what is in your pickup truck the lift pump is a common problem the pump can run but not put out enough fuel pressure to keep the engine running you need at least 2 psi of fuel pressure to feed it. That is why I like my 1990 Dodge 5.9 Cummins 12 valve NO COMPUTER and all my farm machinery nothing has a computer every thing is a mechanical fuel pump
is it really hard on fuel?
@@w-dad4040 No my Dodge gets 24 MPG alone and 15 towing trailer with 5,000 lbs load it is only a 160 HP Cummins and auto 2 wheel drive
How do your glow plugs or literally anything else that the ECM runs, continue to work
@@caleblambert64 mine has intake heater grid and it is temp control by a thermal switch and a electric relay and a timer I turn the key on and if it is below 20 degrees it will activate above that it does nothing and fires right up fast
@@caleblambert64 cummins dont have glow plugs fyi they have grid heaters
Soo close to getting it started!! Like how you're talking thru what you are doing!!. . It's trial and error... Don't give up you'll get going. .. great video!
Thank you so much!
I like the authenticness of these videos, i was waiting eagerly for it to start but sometimes it just doesn't, in many of these videos cars always magically start at the end.
If you just bump the starter it will turn the lift pump on for a few seconds, you need to hear that running. Once that is working there should be a bleed screw on the top of the filter (can't remember exactly) open that till you get fuel with the lift pump running. Then crack the injection lines loose where they go into the cylinder head, crank the engine till fuel squirts out. The tighten line and it should start. Could be the injection pump went bad from setting, they were known for having issues, mostly was an electronic issue from overheating of the circuit board on the pump.
Anytime a diesel engine has sat that long the first things you wanna do is put some good fuel treatment in the tank and change the fuel and air filters 😉
I’ll try that
@@thefarmergrayce okie dokie. Good luck! I love my 01 6spd H.O.
@@thefarmergrayce Let me know if it works or if you need any more ideas
@@thefarmergraycewipe the top of the battery clean. You're gonna get bad parasitic drain across the top of the battery.
She shouldn't drain the old diesel first?
ECM is in the driver's side of the motor PCM is what you changed. Turn in the switch and see if fuel is coming out of the water bleader on the filter
Yeah, it’s fun to watch pretty girls get greasy and talk mechanics but little things are said and you know, you know? There are lots of dudes out there don’t know the difference between ecm and pcm. I argued with a guy that had a 2002 3500 and he said it had a AAM rear end from the factory. It had a big 80 cast right in the pumpkin.
U are absolutely right ecm on drivers side on the block
I have a 2000 dodge just like yours with the 5-speed. It really is gratifying to drive (sounds just like a semi-truck) so I understand your efforts to sustain her. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing the video Grayce. Hope you get it running soon.
your lift pump right behind your fuel filter at corner of block replace it then you’ll fire back up but don’t forget to bleed the lines
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Can't tell ya enough how many times people gone thru this scenario with a truck I did love grayce muscles 💪 a girl that doesn't sweat won't go far in life life keep pushing and no ive never been on live 📺
You young lady are a lot of fun to watch, I agree, you’re not scared to do anything, except go at it with a wasp 🤣😂🤣that cracked me up. I am glad you didn’t get stung, but I couldn’t help but laugh as you ran off camera. You’re great Grayce keep it up plz🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸
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Darn I really thought the old girl was going to run, hopefully it will start up for you, and hopefully you can figure it out and get her in running order, good luck and thanks for sharing.👍❤️
Good Morning Grayce. I am watching this Video on April 30/24 in P.E.I. waiting for Spring to arrive still. Cold and windy here. Love the video as you patiently go through the diagnostics. I'm with you on the wasps !! hate em. I hope you have a great first week of May and your Dodge is running sooner than later. Cheers from here in the North..
I hope you find an easy fix Grayce! I admire your determination!
I think that if you have the old Carter fuel pump (mounted on the driver's side of the engine), they are known to go out or bad and can take out the injection pump. I had purchased a Fass lift pump and now I know it will keep my diesel Cummins running.
My Brother also has a Dodge RAM 2500 4x4 Gen 2 with the 360 cui 24-valve turbo diesel with 6 Gear Manual Gearbox , he is very happy with it.
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Amazing Grayce, hope you can get her started.
Great video, planting season is coming ,our fields have just been planted in soybeans. Looking forward to seeing another video soon. Thanks for sharing your story
I have a 2001 dodge 2500 with a Cummins so I have some experience. I’m also a komatsu technician. First I would verify if you have a lift pump mounted on the engine block under the fuel filter or inside the fuel tank. Bumping the key on will run the lift pump for 10-20 seconds for priming purposes. You’ll hear it energize. You can also check for fuel at the injection pump by pushing in a Schrader valve located on the injection pump itself. And finally you can crack the injector lines to check if fuel is actually reaching the injectors. If you have questions let me know
I’ll try this. I know it’s not reaching the injectors! No fuel out of any injector lines
@@thefarmergrayce clogged fuel filter could be the culprit or fuel sending unit if not getting to injectors. Also with the injection p-pump the check release valve could've gone bad, that is another easier thing to replace.
I got a 1998 Dodge Dakota from my neighbor for $600, Basically, he wanted it gone and I was interested in getting a second car that still ran and didn't have a sophisticated computer. The main issue was that it hesitated badly. However, after I replaced the battery, we just had to crank the engine just long enough for enough fuel to get in to get it going and move it into our driveway. I spent a month doing various things to it to get it rode worthy again. The most major thing that brought it back to life was cleaning out the throttle body. I have Scotty Kilmer to thank for that advice. That stopped it from hesitating. From there, I replaced the front brakes, put all new tires on it, changed the oil, and ended up putting a starter switch in the cab that would create a short between the positive battery and the starter because it doesn't always start in park. I now use it as a utility vehicle.
You are determined and you will get it fixed
Another great vid! Stay safe
i like that she says there is 1 thing wrong with it and as she brings the camera to show it, she passes 18 other things that need attention, definition of a farm truck. love it.
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Good work! Keep up the good work, your doing great!
Run a jumper cable from battery to battery, and make sure the wires on the clamps are connected (you should have a little wore on the postive) make sure its hooked up.
I've got a 94 12v 3500 4x4 5 speed daily drive and love it.Great looking truck you got.
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Hey Grayce ! Whenever I was researching codes on those trucks , I have red 24v 2nd gen that has the n0 bu5 issue and when looking at codes I got a P1693 as well which based on my research it is a companion code " A 9Companion DTC9 was set in both the ECM and PCM. " ( Service Manual ) but if you think its the ECM , that would be on the drivers side of the engine just bellow the fuel filter bowl. also try just bumping the starter on that truck of which will make the lift pump run for 30 seconds , of which you could maybe test for power at. That's just a bit of info I have to throw at it. Hope you get it going again!
Take fuel filter off and see if there is fuel pressure when you turn ignition on. If no pressure, it’s pump or solenoid for it. If pressure is there, it’s fuel filter or could also be crank positioning sensor. Great job and good luck!
OMG you have one too!! I have an 01 Dodge extended cab long box with a 5-speed in there and I just love that girl!!
They’re awesome trucks!
@@thefarmergrayce I had one I bought used in 09 and I sold it in 2021 with 480,000 mi on it engine and manual transmission were perfect on it yet but I found another 2001 with only 115,000 mi on it just recently and feel like a kid on Christmas morning! They are awesome 😎
Thanks for the video, Grayce. I think you are close to getting it started and it is probably a fuel issue - maybe just old or bad fuel? If you can crack open the lines at the injectors to see if fuel is showing up, that may tell you a lot. Good luck - i'm interested in what you find out!! 😀
You are a good mechanic
Oh the joys of resurecting "dead" trucks. Fuel issues on trucks with electric components are trickier to find than mechanical at least for me. I did encounter a powerstroke once that wouldn't fire the injectors simply because the batteries were weak. Tried pulling it but that wouldn't do it. Charged the batteries overnight and it lit right off. Might be worth while to put some fresh batteries in and see what happens. You're on the right track i think though. Just have to puzzle it out. Saw you struggle a little bit with that boot there. A cool tool to make for helping with rubber boots and hoses is take a broken screw driver and grind a point on it and bend it 90ish degrees. Stick it under the lip of the boot and slide around your hose barb. Really helps. Also i have a few times in my life encountered a fuse that looked ok but was bad internally. Sometimes if you're getting really puzzled check with a volt meter or test light. Dont even have to pull them to check that way. Probably won't help you here but something to keep in your back pocket for future diagnostic. Good luck. If memory is correct is this the truck you called "Pearl"? Will be nice to see her back on the road.
hey grayce new here i like all of the vidio's i have seen i like how you explain's all the things and how straightforward you are if there is something you are unsure of love from a danish farmer and keep up the good vidio's
Great video Grayce
P1693 is a companion code. After turning the ignition on, off, on, off, wait, the p codes will cycle through, it will say p done, then it will flash the ECM codes. 1689 or 0216 is a dead VP44. You can also turn the ignition on, and barely start the ignition (bump the starter) that will cycle the lift pump for 20 seconds. If it is a stock lift pump, it is likely dead and needs replaced. The VP44 needs fuel to lubricate, and it will burn up quickly if the lift pump is dead. The engine sounds fine when turning over, just like it isn’t getting fuel.
I see, thank you for explaining that to me!
Hey hi grayce! Hey i owned a dodge! And tours set for a few years! My advice to you is take one of your emryboards and clean the pins on all of your fuse blocks cause they can vef coroion on them and clean your battey cables and post and on the battery post put alivht coat of vassling on them it helps with electric contact. Also takt a solft tooth brush to were your cube usez plug into ! Get then all ckeaned and on the brake switch its not just that switch with the jump wire but also the alighnment of it too! And its called the nutral saftey switch! Also putting air from a air compresser to your feul tank csn push feul up to help if your not getting it! Good luck !
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Great video! The kid on the news was funny. I'm sure you will get plenty of Dodge advice.
If you bump the starter for second and leave the key on you should hear the lift pump cycling, if not then that’s most likely your issue or it’s not supplying enough fuel pressure. A fuel pressure gauge is a must on these 2nd gen 24v trucks. I have an 01 6 speed too
that's a lot of work and effort for a truck like that . Good luck you'll figure it out
Not sure how this popped up in my feed but you was funny and handled every situation with good natural humor. I could relate as well. Often times how shit would go around here.
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Haha thank you!!
Same as other comments. Make sure youve got power to pump and fuel coming out. Check fuel pressure on pump, take power straight to pin 7 if all looks good and see what happens...rules out vp and everything upstream
You will get it going I’m sure good job so far
Those trucks are none for the electric lift pump going out I’ve worked on a lot of those dodges and have had to replace a lot of the lift pumps. If it gets power and ground when you bump the key and it still doesn’t pump fuel then it’s bad. Also with it setting the lift pump could have gotten mess up from not having fuel due to a drain back issue from setting and you may also not have gotten all the air out of fuel system while starting it with starting fluid. Crack a couple injector lines loose next time you sty to crank it to bleed the fuel system. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work God bless
I’ll do that, thanks for the input!
If you have a lift pump like a fass or air dog Try
Running a jumper wire 2 the lift pump See if it kicks on if it does then try to start the truck It could also be that since you disconnected that neutral safety switch. You're jumper wire that you made Could be causing it to not start I have seen that happen in the past But the trucks old enough that shouldn't matter Just keep working at it.You'll get it ultimately.These older diesels are not that complicated
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Grayce: if there had been women in my area like you when I grew up, I probably would have stayed on the ranch. Appreciate your intelligence, your easygoing manner, and your smile. I hope 2024 is a great year for you!
I love those trucks so much. I have a 2000 3500 dually and it's my daily driver. I enjoy driving it. There are a couple of lift pumps way better than the factory one from AIRDOG FRRP( factory replacement raptor pump) part# R3SBD100 or from FASS DRP02. Be sure to buy a relocation kit for the pump because with the kit the pump will be closer to the tank and will work with less effort and last longer.
You may have to get a PCM for your specific model year of truck. Also to do that you will need the VIN off of your truck and send it in so that when you receive your PCM it will be set to exactly the parameters of your particular pickup.
I was gonna say damn, yours started right up after 3 years??? 😂 I had to put a new battery in mine after "only" two. And I did NOT miss my 97, but had to get her back on the road recently after my 14's engine took a 💩
Grayce for diesel have get old fuel and new fuel hope help little good luck great video keep up good work .😊😊😊😊
How did you learn so much about engine repair and stuff? Did you dad teach you all this stuff or classes at school or what? Very impressed.
When I was driving this truck I couldn’t afford to ever take it to a mechanic if something went wrong so I learned everything I know by just doing it! TH-cam videos and Cummins forums taught me a lot
Just ran into your channel and I just can’t help but to admire your beautiful piece of property
2 pumps and a dump 😢
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If volume is low but bubble free, it can still cause cavitation in the injection pump because the VP44 is having to pull the fuel creating a vacuum that can cause cavitation. If you are not getting any fuel at all, but you know the pump is operating, you would want to check the fuel filter itself to ensure that you do not have any blockage. If that checks out, you will want to perform what’s called a bucket test. This consists of removing the line that attaches to the top of the tank and placing that in a bucket of clean diesel fuel.
Thank for sharing Miss Grayce. Its good too hear from you. Hope you do get your truck running. What was you going to check the level on again? When you pulled that long thing out? Then you put 10w 40.. what in? That was what? Can you clear that up for us??😊lol.
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@@thefarmergrayce Thank you and please keep all the great videos coming
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Auto parts stores sell those small clips for really cheap, you probably already know that, keep up the hard work and thanks for sharing.
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Air Filter and fuel filter good cleaning with charged battery. Good luck
make sure the fuel is primed loosen injector tube 1 and 4 to make sure they are getting fuel, make sure to do one at a time and to pull the line off so you can see fuel coming out
just loosen 1 or 4
pull line out a bit so you can see fuel coming out
cycle key a few times for a few seconds and check to see if you got fuel
repeat on other line if fuel comes out
should be a 22mm socket
another easy fix is make sure the tank if filled most of the way because these trucks have half or quarter tank syndrome where the gauge will show it at between a 1/4 or 1/2 full but it wont have any fuel in it because of the way the sending units are built the level stops at a certain point after some time but those are easy ways to check if you even getting fuel than the next part would be seeing if the vp44 is even pushing fuel or if the lift pump on the side of the block is working otherwise you may need to get a aftermarket lift pump because the electronic ones on the engine block suck
You got this. I believe in you
Sorry for 8 day later comment, Just watched this video!
Consider renting an obd2 scan tool. P1693 on some googling and forum reads indicates there are more faults that need extracted from the ECM. Specially on pre emission older diesels because the dash is not going to display every code in the list.
However, if I am to guess the issue. It will actually still be fuel related, (which can trigger multiple codes in ECM)
14:07 Your getting fuel in the fuel / water separation filter however, the high pressure gear driven fuel pump has lost prime so there is air in the fuel injector rails.
You will need to crack a couple fuel lines that sit above the injectors and crank the engine over and pressurize the air out and leak fuel out of them.
After that tighten them back up then engine should fire up.
These kind of things happen when leaving a diesel sit for long periods of time (3 years as the title says)
Using Ether to keep it running its not necessarily good, you can burn the high pressure fuel pump or cause the internals to leave metal shavings due to the air being locked into the fuel rail with not enough motion to pass through the injectors.
Do be careful when messing with things like this though, they call it "high pressure fuel pumps" for a reason if you don't know what your doing? It can cause some injuries.
ECM,
Being that it is 2000, and pre emissions truck I dont see an issue with quick swapping ecm's to check something out however, anything diesel 2008 and up you have to get an very expensive programming / scan tool to marry all the computers together and vin match them so they communicate with each other. Some ECM's will lock out then your left with 2 bad trucks after that. (Example: Paccar MX13's and MX15's from past companies I have worked for when they tried this)
Hopefully this helps you on the next day for the dodge adventure!
ECM error is rather vague...all modern diesels have what is known as a fuel shutoff solenoid located on the injection pump...it basically moves the control rack inside of the fuel pump to a no fuel position....verify that you have 12 volts at the solenoid....however some solenoids only pull in when you crank the engine...so for that you'll need a second pair on hands....while others will pull in when you turn the ignition to the run position....hope this helps!....if you have any other questions let me know.
Sounds good, thank you for your input!!! I’ll try that
Rotory pump son... Your rack can go elsewhere.
Make sure you check, make sure you're getting to fuel to the injector pump and up.
Check fuses, I pulled the fuse for my power locks on my '01 24v cuz the doors would lock randomly (weird) Truck was parked like yours for a while and when I went to try and start it, same thing, no fuel. Put the fuse back in and bingo, started right up.
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Probably the lift pump. Old diesel also can gum things up. 5psi is what the lift pump should push. They can run off less but 5 / 7 psi is where they should be. Also Cummins aren't to happy when air gets in the lines. If you replace the lift pump then also have someone crank it and crack each injector line off the cylinder head and let it purge each line. It will be pretty obvious when the air is out. Squirts fuel everywhere. They line just needs to be cracked. Hope this might help.
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If not the lift pump next is the VP44 injection pump. That was the issue with mine.
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It's gotta be simple I watch other lubetubers fire diesels up sat 30 years....same fuel 👍👍
Also like another gentleman stated, once you get enough charge in the battery try just bumping the key and letting off. At which point you should hear the lift pump activate.
2 things i may suggest. one is buying a cheap obd reader as im sure theres a chance yours has an obd port i know 2001 onwards does but 2 to try is clearing all the stored codes in the ecm as some vehickes wont start if all the control units match the data and also some codes can prevent from starting or running and also try taking the fuel line off and putting it in a bottle and crank a few times see if fuel fills the bottle
One thing about those VP44s is they’re known to fail because of the factory lift pump. I would highly recommend a airdog or fass so you don’t have to pay alot of money on a new injection pump.
Happy hunting on your fuel solution.
Clean your battery cables it can be dirty connections,also those batteries are toast! If you have any questions I’ll sure try to help been working for Dodge for almost 30 years !
Hi, so the p1693 code is very likely a dead injection pump. Also you need to crack the big banjo bolt on the side of the injection pump, then see if you have fuel pressure when you bump the starter. If no fuel pressure, then you need to get some kind of lift pump system.. I would not use the factory style, cuz they just give problems, then after you have fuel pressure, if it doesn’t start, it’s 95% going to be the injection pump. Good luck on it!
My 01 did the exact same thing after sitting it was the lift pump in the tank
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You need to bleed the fuel system. They will bleed down almost entirely if sitting for years at a time. You need to start by loosening the supply line at the injection pump and cycling the key to the crank position then quickly back to run to allow the pump to run for 25 seconds, instead of 2, and continue repeating that until you see good flow coming out of the supply line. You don't want to completely remove the line... just tighten it back up when you see good flow. Then after that you can attempt to crank the engine over 30 seconds at a time letting it cool down for 2 minutes minimum inbetween. If you still can't get it to start after that you might need to crack the high pressure lines to (procedure is for 3,4,5 only).
These trucks are really hard to start when air gets in the system.... It is normal to crank them over until you feel like the starter is going to blow up... just remember to let the starter cool down in between...
Stale diesel is probably not helping either... 3 year old diesel is not good diesel... not helping your cause! FYI these don't have intank lift pumps, they use transfer pumps, unless your truck was retrofitted! It should live on the side of the engine and make a thumping noise...
From the fuel filter to the injection pump pop a line off see you get fuel. Don't take much just see you get fuel come out
All ya gotta do is bump the starter and let the lift pump run crack a line at the fuel filter make sure u have good fuel there and then crack 1 4 and 5 injector lines crank it over till you have fuel at 1 and close it and 4 and close it and the truck should be running
You’ll get in running. Cummins always start
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That year of Ram would have the vp44 fuel injection pump. If I were you I would check the fuel pump relay in the PDC, in the driver's side of the engine bay. If you remove the fuel feed line that goes to the VP44 from the lift pump and you have good fuel supply, my bet it would have something to do with this relay or something related to it.
3 years standing is probably worse than 20 years, bc back then we didnt have crappy bio fuel. No issues with it when stuff gets used every day, park it up for a period of time and pumps, lines deteriorate like crazy.
So the code you have just means there is codes in the pcm that the dash can not display. Which usually means it’s not really a important code in your case probably a low voltage code. And I have learned the hard way just because fuel came out of the drain doesn’t mean there is fuel in the filter because the pick up is above the bottom so the water will settle and not get picked up. So with that all being said make sure you are getting power at the lift pump more than likely it’s stuck from sitting give it a tap with a hammer right after bumping the key to start that is a for sure trick to make the pump run because every other key cycle it doesn’t run. Do that and I bet it comes back to life it’s hard to kill those old trucks