Okay I have to admit, even though I am not actively hunting the roamers, it was very informative and entertaining to watch Hangar! Gen 2 is a gift which just keeps on giving
Awesome method guys! Great work, clearly so much effort and research was involved! Already nabbed Suicune with your help and I can't wait to try it on Raikou and Entei!
Interesting work fella, appreciate the efforts. Would be nice if you explained the most effective method very simply with no frills and fun edits in one video.
Amazing content! Hope all the effort put creating this pays back. One question, there's a chance you guys release a save file with all these shinys you get? I'd love to catch'em all myself but I'm just an old man with a fresh battery replaced pokemon crystal cartridge and you guys sparked a nostalgia moment in me that I wanted to revive. Thanks again and keep the good job.
You know how it is, when it comes to these dogs - me & Rich don't mess around. This is the big one. The hype, the energy, I am ABSOLUTELY drunk on it. Euphoric. You guys have to see this stuff.
@@RichieL1991 I was linked here from an older video!! I’m a big fan of this kind of shiny hunting and the older generation games in particular so I appreciate all the hard work yall put in to create awesome content like this
Love the video and the edits, especially that rocket man raikou at the end! I do have a question though. Does the shiny chance depend on when you first free the legendary beasts from the burned tower, or is it determined by the first encounter. Thank you!
Corbo is absolutely spot on... Determined upon the first encounter itself in generation 2. Thanks for the kind words! Pleased yoy enjoyed my Raikou Man edit 😂
THE DARKHOLD It is an ancient book of occultist lore, said to give its greatest devotees control over the black arts. The Darkhold’s every spell invites terror-it is of a demonic god borne.
Going to hate myself for this but i really want to hunt raikou because he's my favorite beast and favorite electric type in this game so wish me luck 😅
With the sheer amount of effort put into this video itd feel like an insult to not hunt the roamers! Thank you guys for giving me the motivation to attempt these hunts
Thank you for the kind words... Enjoy your time with it, it's a hell of a ride The work certainly hasn't stopped either despite our online absence. I assure you it's still very much ongoing and one day I hope to return once I have what I need from it.
This is a good thing? That sounds like perfect timing to me... These methods are a true privilege for all of us - it's mindblowing to that they exist. Can't wait for you to see what we've got! ☄
Question- Let's say I want to be an omega sweatlord and try to get all 3 shiny's on the same save file in Gold/Silver. Would I use the Mahogany Release method (SR'ing after the first encounter) to land a shiny Entei or Suicine, then switch to the Route 38 method for Raikou and the other remaining one? Or would it make more sense to use the Route 38 method from the beginning?
Hey this is a great question, so firstly thank you. It prompted a good little discussion of this old stuff actually. The answer is to start with Mahoghany from our perspective. The spawns are incredibly strong (so strong in fact, 35 MPH was achievable dexless, so with dex you can put up even stronger numbers). Another thing is that you can effectively ignore Raikou in the pokedex while doing Mahogany since you will be checking the one and then SRing - should make the whole thing feel more slick. But all-in-all, whatever method you choose you will get results - hopefully you let us know about your future exploits and experiences with it. All the best.
Will do! I found this video after I beat the elite 4 in my VC copy of Gold version, so my Dex is suboptimal to put it mildly- 4 right+4 down to get to Entei in AZ mode. Even with that, the rate of encounters was absurd- I saw them more yesterday than I have in my entire life lol. One thing I experimented with while waiting for your reply was biking to route 44 in the event i didn’t land entei or suicune on route 42, then dex checking them one more time before resetting. I did encounter all 3 of them on route 44 at various points- but my gut tells me it’s probably a pretty significant hit to MPH compared to just SR’ing if I dont land one on 42.
@@SW4MPMONST3R "Omega Sweatlord" that one cracked me up 😂 Nice job experimenting with biking over to Route 44! We did that in the very beginning of testing these actually. That's a very strong play for landing Raikou. But overall it's eversoslightly a disadvantage. I mean not by much honestly, but the biking, extra dex checks, and surfing for encounters will add up time and fall short of the 50/hr mark. By all means feel free to do that on attempts you don't hit any Suicune/Entei's, part of the fun is to be able to mess around doing different stuff with Roamers. Best of luck on your hunts 🍀
@@RichieL1991 Truthfully I was dumbfounded when I stumbled across this video. I thought the most optimal strategy had been discovered in a reddit post I saw about 8 years ago: Get them in the dex by flying to mahogany, bike to route 42, wait for encounter or repel to wear off- if it wears off reset. Then once they’re in the dex, fly to violet city, enter/exit pokemon center, dex check, bike to a shared adjacent route (or route 37 if both you and roamer are 2 routes away). I was honestly just looking to see if there was any live footage of a shiny roamer encounter in gen ii. I did not expect to find out that 2 absolute lunatics had discovered a way to land 40-50 encounters per hour using the warp from a poison faint-out LOL. Probably the nerdiest and coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Right now, with an initial dex check requiring 8 inputs, and resetting after 1 encounter, I’m averaging around 35 mph. Im about 6 hours in so the hunt is still young! Thanks for taking the time to reply- and for the countless hours and/or black magic rituals it took for you guys to come up with these strats!
@@SW4MPMONST3R LOL, sure thing. I know that exact reddit post you are referring to. We tried our best to promote our methods there, but a las to no avail. Thankfully you were able to find your way here. And honestly a lot of people who really want to shiny hunt these Roamers do. Obviously that out-dated guide won't cut it for most people so they seek more. (And by most people, I mean probably like 10-15 us actually shiny hunting these things 😂 ). Also, that's great progress already, awesome to hear! Gonna shine in no time ✨ Yes there were many countless hours from 2020 to 2022. Literally 2.5 years to form the method that came from this video. So many different iterations in-between. It's even mind-blowing to us still to this day. 😳 GEN 2 Roamers will always be the most sacred. They are the first ever Roamers, and also GEN 2 cannot be so easily RNG Manipulated. Anyone who wants a shiny of these has to do it the 'old fashioned way' pretty much (less ACE or Genning, etc.).
th-cam.com/video/hTP5vPYqdHQ/w-d-xo.html - hi, yeah there's a dexless method in this video here that you could use But there are definitely ways around the trading if you have the means. You could even use the coincase glitch to get yourself a dex entry if on EN Gold or Silver as shown here: th-cam.com/video/mWfWCM9GTo4/w-d-xo.html Alternately you can: - use the prepared save file we provided with an emulator - modify your save file with PkHex, then reinject it, if you have a means to backup
If i'm hunting on rout 38 without a masterball in pokemon crystal and the roamer is shiny, if it flees will it still be shiny the next time I encounter it? Amazing videos by the way, I am genuily blown away by the dedication you guys put in!
Yes it will still remain shiny. Thank you for the kind comment and apologies for such a delayed reply. Hopefully you found what you needed from all of this 👍
If I want to hunt Entei and Raikou on my Crystal file, and their IVs are locked upon encountering them the first time, how do I get their Pokedex entries to track them down??
In Crystal your only options are trading from another game or editing your save file in PKHeX to add their dex entries (or otherwise using a gameshark/cheating device to add the entries). I suppose you could do the Mahogany Poison Faint-Out Method without their dex entries, but it'd get less encounters per hour.
Technically you don't need Pokemon March. But Pokemon March increases the encounter rates in grass and since the encounter times for these Pokemon are disproportionately long in the grass, the time save is very effective. It becomes especially important with these new methods as there's now less tracking than ever, so in a given time period, the proportion of your time spent encountering in the grass goes up. For this reason, we decided to emphasise the importance of it.
If I save after the Burned Tower, is the shiny-ness of each beast already set, even if I haven't encountered any of them in the wild? Have I cheated myself out of getting shinies of them?
Short answer: No Don't sweat it. In generation 2 they are even cooler, because it all happens on the encounter itself, doesn't matter when you do (or did) the Burned Tower as long as you haven't encountered them and saved the game after.
@3:34 im looking to FIND the roamers not FARM the roamers, this guide does nothing if i can't see them. how do i know they are their if my pokedex in polished crystal/base crystal doesn't have them? do they show up as the first mon in the route that you will find? or do i have to farm lvl 5 pidgey's until i find a legendary? i don't mean to come across as hostile, this is more point at google for recommending me this video when this ISN'T what i need [or asked for]
Hey 👋 not a problem, I get the frustration. We do have what you want though. th-cam.com/video/hTP5vPYqdHQ/w-d-xo.html - this is what you're looking for. Go here and look at the chapters, go to "dexless method" around 13 mins in... That's the best way for finding them like you want... With that said, the Mahogany-release method in this video where you've commented, could also be used as a very effective tool for reliably finding Suicune and Entei in particular without a dex entry. But really, this video was a more focused shiny-hunting one, as you say, aimed at "farming". Hope that helps, any more questions feel free and either myself or Rich will get back to you - have fun bro 😄
When I save the game in route 38 and I give the step to my Abra to weaken and send me to the pokemon center of route 32 if Entei appears, but when I save game in route 38 and restart the game the pokemon is no longer in route 32. what am I doing wrong?
Make sure you're saving in the gatehouse before route 38. After you take a step to go outside of the gatehouse door, and then check to see Entei on Route 32, then you take your extra step while still on Route 38, this will cause you to poison faintout/white-out to Route 32. At that point you bike in the grass to get your encounter, and soft reset if Entei is not shiny. Once you save and reload at any point, the Roamer's position on the map randomizes. Let me know if this clears up any trouble you may have been having? And best of luck!
Is it possible to use this method in crystal while shiny reseting for suicune or do i need to use other methods youve shown for the roamers. Also, im hoping to do both roamers on the same save file, could i hunt one at a time? (And save the game between roamer hunts?)
Yes, you're going to be looking at the Rt.38-32 poison method for the absolute best result in that scenario. And yes, you've got it! You are able to do both roamers with this method, provided you don't at any stage, save after a non-shiny encounter. Until that save the Pokemon remain free to roll, so you can find one, save and then continue to hunt the one that hasn't yet been seen.
@@HangarOfRoam So i could save after i get shiny suicune on soft resets, walk and whiteout and do the roamers the rt.38-32 method, or do i constantly need to set the roamers free with the cutscene for this to work?
@@wqlmer the release doesn't really matter, you don't have to re-release each time. The only reason we even release each time in the 2nd method in this video is due to how the roamers originally spawn in. 38-32 isn't dependent on this, it's perfect for your usage case. I actually did the Crystal dogs myself after static Suicune. So yes, you can do the Suicune first... Just make sure that you haven't encountered either roamer and saved the game before doing the Suicune.
@@wqlmer should you need anything else or have other questions - either myself or Rich will always do our best to get back to you. Happy roaming fella!
They do not need to be registered in your Dex for the first method, where you save before releasing them and then faint-out to Mahogany each time. Yep, it can be done on VC! edit: just to clarify, you don't need them registered to be able to do it. But it wont be as fast as having them registered.
I’ve encountered raikou twice but didn’t immediately save after the encounter I saved like hours after cuz I was playing crystal normally so is it shiny locked or not?
Ok so I can't trade the 3 beasts into my Silver game on the VC because not only do I not have a 2nd 3ds to do it the eShop is long gone. Am I just going to have to hope and pray I find shiny Raikou quickly since I'm not looking for shiny Entei or Suicune? I already have those 2. I can't get shiny Raikou in my Omega Ruby copy because I transferred my shiny Ho-Oh to Gen 8 already(I also don't have HG or SS to transfer up a Ho-Oh or Lugia to get Raikou in Omega Ruby) and I can't get shiny Raikou in the Max Raid Lair because my brother accepted the non shiny Raikou and the game saved over so now I can't get it and I don't have any other game Raikou is available in. Shiny Raikou loves to evade me over my dumb decisions😢
Unfortunately it is hard to say, with neither of us having played any Rom Hacks. All of the GSC rom hacks are different too, so you'd probably have to get some background info. on how the roamers shininess is generated, and if they even roam at all. A lot of the rom hacks make "QoL" 'improvements' and generally speaking that means turning the roamers into static hunts instead of roaming hunts. Some others change the shininess to be determined when you release them too, or which routes they can roam, if they're trackable in the dex, etc.. So you'd have to check on those specifics first.
Looks good but this method only let you have 1 shiny cuz after you encounter one and if not shiny, don’t gonna be shiny if you don’t soft reset 😅 I thought 💭
Yeah that is a limitation of this unfortunately. Good job thinking about that though - it means you probably have ambition ahah Thanks for the comment. Sorry about the late response.
That wouldn't have been an efficient use of time for this type of video. Rather, as listed in the video description you can find two playlist with a handful of hours (about 20 each) of me doing both methods in real-time. Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions.
@@kaemanking9524 Hmmm.. interesting. And you're doing the first scenario where you're saved in front of the Roamers, then poison faint-out to Mahogany Town - and search for Entei/Suicune ? Some things that I think could slow it down are if you're just targeting one of Entei and Suicune and not both, Or if the Dex isn't A-Z mode? Happy to help if needed. Though admittingly ~50 encounters can still feel slow to like 125+ which random grass encounters can get hahahaha
In what regard? I don't quite understand this comment. He's been very helpful to the Pokémon community. Among other things, one of the most dedicated and open minded twitch streamers.
@@RichieL1991 only one time I joined his stream, donated 100 bits and said “sorry you haven’t found shiny suicune” proceeds to act offended and starts insinuating that I don’t even know what shiny hunting is, I just respond I didn’t mean it in a bad way, I get banned from chat. “Super open minded”
beautiful 😭
Okay I have to admit, even though I am not actively hunting the roamers, it was very informative and entertaining to watch Hangar! Gen 2 is a gift which just keeps on giving
Awesome method guys! Great work, clearly so much effort and research was involved! Already nabbed Suicune with your help and I can't wait to try it on Raikou and Entei!
Awesome!!! Yeah, shouldn't take long at all now for the other 2. It's hard for me to even believe sometimes, honestly 😂 have fun!
That's awesome & I'm glad you're having fun with it. What a journey it's been with these dogs! Thanks for the support & kind words
loved the video, well done guys. Def looking towards doing this one in the future!
Let's goooo Jacks, glad you came to check out the new methods dude! It's crazy isn't it 😂 still surreal to me, seeing the new methods
@@HangarOfRoam I can't believe the games work like that, would be great to see something for the gen 3 roamers
Interesting work fella, appreciate the efforts. Would be nice if you explained the most effective method very simply with no frills and fun edits in one video.
Time-stamps in the description
Amazing content! Hope all the effort put creating this pays back. One question, there's a chance you guys release a save file with all these shinys you get? I'd love to catch'em all myself but I'm just an old man with a fresh battery replaced pokemon crystal cartridge and you guys sparked a nostalgia moment in me that I wanted to revive. Thanks again and keep the good job.
The mad lad really out here with the banger videos
You know how it is, when it comes to these dogs - me & Rich don't mess around. This is the big one. The hype, the energy, I am ABSOLUTELY drunk on it. Euphoric. You guys have to see this stuff.
Sonikks sent me here. Thank you for all your hard work bro
Nice! Did he see this video recently and send you here directly, or did you get linked here from an older video? Just curious 🙂 Glad you enjoyed!!
@@RichieL1991 I was linked here from an older video!! I’m a big fan of this kind of shiny hunting and the older generation games in particular so I appreciate all the hard work yall put in to create awesome content like this
@@SerFondue Appreciate it, and good luck with all your shiny hunts in these past games!
Got shiny entei within 2 days in crystal !!!!!!!! This method is absolutely broken, thank u sooo much ❤️❤️❤️
Kind words, glad you could reap the benefits of it! Mad how effective it is really, isn't it
Thanks for stopping by and congrats 🌠
Nice, that was quick congrats! Glad you enjoyed breaking the GEN2 Roamer hunt!
Love the video and the edits, especially that rocket man raikou at the end! I do have a question though. Does the shiny chance depend on when you first free the legendary beasts from the burned tower, or is it determined by the first encounter. Thank you!
It is determined by the first time you encounter them. These are the only roamers where this is the case.
Corbo is absolutely spot on... Determined upon the first encounter itself in generation 2.
Thanks for the kind words! Pleased yoy enjoyed my Raikou Man edit 😂
Very interesting video, you guys rock!
Froggers to the moon! I'm a Raikou Man
Gen 2 is ancient wizardry. They got everything right with gold and silver and apex perfected it in Crystal.
💯 % agree. It's peak gaming and Godfather II/Terminator 2 tier sequel
THE DARKHOLD
It is an ancient book of occultist lore, said to give its greatest devotees control over the black arts. The Darkhold’s every spell invites terror-it is of a demonic god borne.
Ancient scriptures finally deciphered down in the labs of Roam... Couldn't have done it without all of you raw degens!
My hunt seemed meaningless and now all has changed with this video.
Gonna be so hype seeing you deliver these 💉💉💉
Pumped for the edit
Going to hate myself for this but i really want to hunt raikou because he's my favorite beast and favorite electric type in this game so wish me luck 😅
7.8/10 not enough water
With the sheer amount of effort put into this video itd feel like an insult to not hunt the roamers! Thank you guys for giving me the motivation to attempt these hunts
Thank you for the kind words... Enjoy your time with it, it's a hell of a ride
The work certainly hasn't stopped either despite our online absence. I assure you it's still very much ongoing and one day I hope to return once I have what I need from it.
@@HangarOfRoam that's incredible! You got it! Good luck!
just got this setup cant wait to hunt these for roamer week in a few days
That's awesome, definitely tell us about it
Woah I’m ready for this
You sure as hell will be ready once we hook you up with those ROAM save-files 🙌
Dag nabbit! And I just started grinding for these dogs too 😭
This is a good thing? That sounds like perfect timing to me... These methods are a true privilege for all of us - it's mindblowing to that they exist. Can't wait for you to see what we've got! ☄
That's a good thing, b/c you'll truly be able to see the speed of this method + easiness vs. the current method being used.
Just 1 more week! 😁
Totally genius.
Thank you!!
Hey guys, haven't tuned into Hangar in quite some time. Did he ever finish his quest to get all shiny roamers?
I’m late af but OMG!! This is amazing 😍
Question- Let's say I want to be an omega sweatlord and try to get all 3 shiny's on the same save file in Gold/Silver. Would I use the Mahogany Release method (SR'ing after the first encounter) to land a shiny Entei or Suicine, then switch to the Route 38 method for Raikou and the other remaining one? Or would it make more sense to use the Route 38 method from the beginning?
Hey this is a great question, so firstly thank you. It prompted a good little discussion of this old stuff actually.
The answer is to start with Mahoghany from our perspective. The spawns are incredibly strong (so strong in fact, 35 MPH was achievable dexless, so with dex you can put up even stronger numbers). Another thing is that you can effectively ignore Raikou in the pokedex while doing Mahogany since you will be checking the one and then SRing - should make the whole thing feel more slick. But all-in-all, whatever method you choose you will get results - hopefully you let us know about your future exploits and experiences with it. All the best.
Will do! I found this video after I beat the elite 4 in my VC copy of Gold version, so my Dex is suboptimal to put it mildly- 4 right+4 down to get to Entei in AZ mode. Even with that, the rate of encounters was absurd- I saw them more yesterday than I have in my entire life lol. One thing I experimented with while waiting for your reply was biking to route 44 in the event i didn’t land entei or suicune on route 42, then dex checking them one more time before resetting. I did encounter all 3 of them on route 44 at various points- but my gut tells me it’s probably a pretty significant hit to MPH compared to just SR’ing if I dont land one on 42.
@@SW4MPMONST3R "Omega Sweatlord" that one cracked me up 😂 Nice job experimenting with biking over to Route 44! We did that in the very beginning of testing these actually.
That's a very strong play for landing Raikou. But overall it's eversoslightly a disadvantage. I mean not by much honestly, but the biking, extra dex checks, and surfing for encounters will add up time and fall short of the 50/hr mark. By all means feel free to do that on attempts you don't hit any Suicune/Entei's, part of the fun is to be able to mess around doing different stuff with Roamers.
Best of luck on your hunts 🍀
@@RichieL1991 Truthfully I was dumbfounded when I stumbled across this video. I thought the most optimal strategy had been discovered in a reddit post I saw about 8 years ago:
Get them in the dex by flying to mahogany, bike to route 42, wait for encounter or repel to wear off- if it wears off reset. Then once they’re in the dex, fly to violet city, enter/exit pokemon center, dex check, bike to a shared adjacent route (or route 37 if both you and roamer are 2 routes away).
I was honestly just looking to see if there was any live footage of a shiny roamer encounter in gen ii. I did not expect to find out that 2 absolute lunatics had discovered a way to land 40-50 encounters per hour using the warp from a poison faint-out LOL. Probably the nerdiest and coolest thing I’ve ever seen.
Right now, with an initial dex check requiring 8 inputs, and resetting after 1 encounter, I’m averaging around 35 mph. Im about 6 hours in so the hunt is still young!
Thanks for taking the time to reply- and for the countless hours and/or black magic rituals it took for you guys to come up with these strats!
@@SW4MPMONST3R LOL, sure thing. I know that exact reddit post you are referring to. We tried our best to promote our methods there, but a las to no avail. Thankfully you were able to find your way here. And honestly a lot of people who really want to shiny hunt these Roamers do. Obviously that out-dated guide won't cut it for most people so they seek more. (And by most people, I mean probably like 10-15 us actually shiny hunting these things 😂 ).
Also, that's great progress already, awesome to hear! Gonna shine in no time ✨ Yes there were many countless hours from 2020 to 2022. Literally 2.5 years to form the method that came from this video. So many different iterations in-between. It's even mind-blowing to us still to this day. 😳 GEN 2 Roamers will always be the most sacred. They are the first ever Roamers, and also GEN 2 cannot be so easily RNG Manipulated. Anyone who wants a shiny of these has to do it the 'old fashioned way' pretty much (less ACE or Genning, etc.).
oh my fucking god
Say it again for me.
So.... is there any advice on how to do this without pokedex tracking? I don't have any means to trade.
th-cam.com/video/hTP5vPYqdHQ/w-d-xo.html - hi, yeah there's a dexless method in this video here that you could use
But there are definitely ways around the trading if you have the means. You could even use the coincase glitch to get yourself a dex entry if on EN Gold or Silver as shown here: th-cam.com/video/mWfWCM9GTo4/w-d-xo.html
Alternately you can:
- use the prepared save file we provided with an emulator
- modify your save file with PkHex, then reinject it, if you have a means to backup
If i'm hunting on rout 38 without a masterball in pokemon crystal and the roamer is shiny, if it flees will it still be shiny the next time I encounter it? Amazing videos by the way, I am genuily blown away by the dedication you guys put in!
Yes it will still remain shiny. Thank you for the kind comment and apologies for such a delayed reply. Hopefully you found what you needed from all of this 👍
@@HangarOfRoam thank you! The hun is still on 👍
Does anyone know if you run in to a dog and it is not shiny and you then run and save the game if that locks the dog not being shiny?
You got it - that is precisely how they work in gen 2 👍
If I want to hunt Entei and Raikou on my Crystal file, and their IVs are locked upon encountering them the first time, how do I get their Pokedex entries to track them down??
In Crystal your only options are trading from another game or editing your save file in PKHeX to add their dex entries (or otherwise using a gameshark/cheating device to add the entries).
I suppose you could do the Mahogany Poison Faint-Out Method without their dex entries, but it'd get less encounters per hour.
Is that Empire Earth music?
it is! Good ear. It's from Empire Earth II 😂
Why do you need Pokémon march song to play? I didn’t understand.
Technically you don't need Pokemon March. But Pokemon March increases the encounter rates in grass and since the encounter times for these Pokemon are disproportionately long in the grass, the time save is very effective. It becomes especially important with these new methods as there's now less tracking than ever, so in a given time period, the proportion of your time spent encountering in the grass goes up. For this reason, we decided to emphasise the importance of it.
Thanks
If I save after the Burned Tower, is the shiny-ness of each beast already set, even if I haven't encountered any of them in the wild? Have I cheated myself out of getting shinies of them?
Short answer: No
Don't sweat it. In generation 2 they are even cooler, because it all happens on the encounter itself, doesn't matter when you do (or did) the Burned Tower as long as you haven't encountered them and saved the game after.
@3:34 im looking to FIND the roamers not FARM the roamers, this guide does nothing if i can't see them.
how do i know they are their if my pokedex in polished crystal/base crystal doesn't have them?
do they show up as the first mon in the route that you will find?
or do i have to farm lvl 5 pidgey's until i find a legendary?
i don't mean to come across as hostile, this is more point at google for recommending me this video when this ISN'T what i need [or asked for]
Hey 👋 not a problem, I get the frustration. We do have what you want though.
th-cam.com/video/hTP5vPYqdHQ/w-d-xo.html - this is what you're looking for. Go here and look at the chapters, go to "dexless method" around 13 mins in... That's the best way for finding them like you want...
With that said, the Mahogany-release method in this video where you've commented, could also be used as a very effective tool for reliably finding Suicune and Entei in particular without a dex entry. But really, this video was a more focused shiny-hunting one, as you say, aimed at "farming".
Hope that helps, any more questions feel free and either myself or Rich will get back to you - have fun bro 😄
When I save the game in route 38 and I give the step to my Abra to weaken and send me to the pokemon center of route 32 if Entei appears, but when I save game in route 38 and restart the game the pokemon is no longer in route 32. what am I doing wrong?
Make sure you're saving in the gatehouse before route 38. After you take a step to go outside of the gatehouse door, and then check to see Entei on Route 32, then you take your extra step while still on Route 38, this will cause you to poison faintout/white-out to Route 32. At that point you bike in the grass to get your encounter, and soft reset if Entei is not shiny.
Once you save and reload at any point, the Roamer's position on the map randomizes.
Let me know if this clears up any trouble you may have been having? And best of luck!
Is it possible to use this method in crystal while shiny reseting for suicune or do i need to use other methods youve shown for the roamers. Also, im hoping to do both roamers on the same save file, could i hunt one at a time? (And save the game between roamer hunts?)
Yes, you're going to be looking at the Rt.38-32 poison method for the absolute best result in that scenario.
And yes, you've got it! You are able to do both roamers with this method, provided you don't at any stage, save after a non-shiny encounter. Until that save the Pokemon remain free to roll, so you can find one, save and then continue to hunt the one that hasn't yet been seen.
@@HangarOfRoam So i could save after i get shiny suicune on soft resets, walk and whiteout and do the roamers the rt.38-32 method, or do i constantly need to set the roamers free with the cutscene for this to work?
@@wqlmer the release doesn't really matter, you don't have to re-release each time. The only reason we even release each time in the 2nd method in this video is due to how the roamers originally spawn in. 38-32 isn't dependent on this, it's perfect for your usage case.
I actually did the Crystal dogs myself after static Suicune. So yes, you can do the Suicune first... Just make sure that you haven't encountered either roamer and saved the game before doing the Suicune.
@@HangarOfRoam great! Thank you so much for the help
@@wqlmer should you need anything else or have other questions - either myself or Rich will always do our best to get back to you. Happy roaming fella!
Been trying to find entei forever bout to give up
I just want to know is if I encounter a non-shiny roamer and I flee then save, did I just lock it from being shiny?
Yes unfortunately that does fix the state of the Pokemon. Once encountered + saved, it will never change and cannot be shiny from that point.
Sheesh n thx. Bout to start my silver version over
Quickest way to get poisoned?
Depends on the game and time, but I always used Spinarak. I think Koffing in the Tower can poison too (going off memory)
do the dogs need to be registered in your dex an can this be done on the virtual console/
They do not need to be registered in your Dex for the first method, where you save before releasing them and then faint-out to Mahogany each time. Yep, it can be done on VC!
edit: just to clarify, you don't need them registered to be able to do it. But it wont be as fast as having them registered.
I’ve encountered raikou twice but didn’t immediately save after the encounter I saved like hours after cuz I was playing crystal normally so is it shiny locked or not?
Ok so I can't trade the 3 beasts into my Silver game on the VC because not only do I not have a 2nd 3ds to do it the eShop is long gone. Am I just going to have to hope and pray I find shiny Raikou quickly since I'm not looking for shiny Entei or Suicune? I already have those 2. I can't get shiny Raikou in my Omega Ruby copy because I transferred my shiny Ho-Oh to Gen 8 already(I also don't have HG or SS to transfer up a Ho-Oh or Lugia to get Raikou in Omega Ruby) and I can't get shiny Raikou in the Max Raid Lair because my brother accepted the non shiny Raikou and the game saved over so now I can't get it and I don't have any other game Raikou is available in. Shiny Raikou loves to evade me over my dumb decisions😢
Mad Lad
Mad lad - mad methods , this is truly madness, just wait until you see this stuff dude.
Mad lad
Chad lad
How do you do this in crystal kaizo
Unfortunately it is hard to say, with neither of us having played any Rom Hacks. All of the GSC rom hacks are different too, so you'd probably have to get some background info. on how the roamers shininess is generated, and if they even roam at all. A lot of the rom hacks make "QoL" 'improvements' and generally speaking that means turning the roamers into static hunts instead of roaming hunts. Some others change the shininess to be determined when you release them too, or which routes they can roam, if they're trackable in the dex, etc.. So you'd have to check on those specifics first.
Does anyone know what happened to Hangar? I mean, no streams, no vids and no tweets for months, is he alive and well? 😭
Looks good but this method only let you have 1 shiny cuz after you encounter one and if not shiny, don’t gonna be shiny if you don’t soft reset 😅 I thought 💭
Yeah that is a limitation of this unfortunately. Good job thinking about that though - it means you probably have ambition ahah
Thanks for the comment. Sorry about the late response.
How will this help for shiny hunting them? Not once did you show your method working or you shiny hunting them.
At the very beginning he showed it in action. It allows for FAR faster soft resets on the dogs than formerly thought possible.
That wouldn't have been an efficient use of time for this type of video. Rather, as listed in the video description you can find two playlist with a handful of hours (about 20 each) of me doing both methods in real-time.
Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions.
I'm trying the hunt I'm only like 3 hours in .. trying the first senario
Nice, good luck on the hunt - hope its been fun
@@RichieL1991 it's been feeling long
@@kaemanking9524 Hmmm.. interesting. And you're doing the first scenario where you're saved in front of the Roamers, then poison faint-out to Mahogany Town - and search for Entei/Suicune ?
Some things that I think could slow it down are if you're just targeting one of Entei and Suicune and not both, Or if the Dex isn't A-Z mode?
Happy to help if needed. Though admittingly ~50 encounters can still feel slow to like 125+ which random grass encounters can get hahahaha
@RichieL1991 I was targeting one or the other ... thank you tho still trying 🙏
@@kaemanking9524 Cool, just keep at it - RNG has a plan, it'll shine eventually 🍀
Dude rly skip roamer week on YT but his whole YT bout it?
Cool hunts but hangarofroam is not a nice guy at all.
In what regard? I don't quite understand this comment.
He's been very helpful to the Pokémon community. Among other things, one of the most dedicated and open minded twitch streamers.
@@RichieL1991 only one time I joined his stream, donated 100 bits and said “sorry you haven’t found shiny suicune” proceeds to act offended and starts insinuating that I don’t even know what shiny hunting is, I just respond I didn’t mean it in a bad way, I get banned from chat. “Super open minded”
@@marcocantu5926 so one of his mods bans you, and that makes Hangar not the "nice guy." Yep, that really adds up 🤷♂️
seems kinda dickheaded to say "sorry you haven't gotten your shiny" like it's a shiny it will show up when it shows up. that comes off condescending