@@Rocket_Sledge video idea, one player from each rank will show off their skills and get a friend to try and guess what rank each person is (I think it’s been done before but it is a good video)
I mean this in the most polite way, but you three give off such podcast vibes in the way you talked with each other. Great video though! Very cool idea. Just thought I was gonna hear about squarespace or AirB&B hosting 😂
I'd love to see competitive tournaments where bot creators create Rocket League bots and make them fight other people's bots. Kind of like chess bot tournaments.
now would it be possible to combine the two in a sense? like have a bot that plays and can automatically pick from a pool what to do depending on circumstances? I know boost would be a problem but i think it would be awesome if possible. maybe even unbeatable
Not currently because Stallions mechanics aren't actually real. If the ball was 1mm outside of where its suppose to be Stallion just doesn't work. Nexto is the exact opposite, where instead of built in coded plays, Nexto has tons and tons of constant micro adjustments to the point its unhuman
I mean idk if stallion can really be qualified for this because all he does is repeat the exact movements of a player It would be really interesting if there is a bot that can do a flip reset while in a game tough
i like the little edit at 09:37, which probably means that wasn't on its first try. Also explains why you went with a custom overlay a toddler could've made not showing the timer :) Beautiful deception of 99.9% of your audience.
Wow that's great detective work, you might be the 00.1%! In reality what you're seeing is probably the state setting as the bot adjusts itself to match the exact starting point of the pre-recorded human shot it is about to repeat. As for the overlay? It's an altered version of the same HORSE overlay I used for my videos against Retals and Pulse Fire, which in turn I based off how Musty set up his HORSE videos. Time and score is irrelevant in these videos as it's just unlimited time private matches so it's the best place to put the graphics. Originally I asked my son to make it but he had to go for his nap so I had to do it all by myself!
@@quadblueshadow3132 It's definitely possible, all you gotta do is program in all the possible setups, the shots that can follow the setups, and prioritize them according to which ones are likeliest to succeed depending on the scenario (amount of boost, amount of opponents and their location etc). It takes a hell of a lot of coding though, if you want the bot to have a varied shot selection.
Can someone tell me why RLBot isnt working? Itll do its normal start up and say “press any key to continue” but then when i actually press a key RLBot just closes itself. I miss playing against these crazy bots help would be appreciated
It is not. To learn a shot the freestyler has to be in the lobby with me and Stallion. Some of the ones I've used include Panther, Mesko, Reel, and Crunchy.
Hi! Great content. Could you ask if there is any way to release this Nexto bot that behaves in a defensive way? I think it would be great to improve your shots just by having the ball and try to score it. Please let me know :)
nexto doesnt learn outside of training instances. also I doubt stallion's library is that big, so even if nexto could learn that way, it would just learn to defend the specific shots that stallion has, and might not generalize that knowledge.
@@shadowyzephyr I didn’t know he didn’t learn out of training instances and if he did you have to realize that by learning how to save those freestyle shots he is still learning how to read what the opponent is doing in the air and that would help with airial defense
@@criticaldawg Mostly I'm concerned you are going to expose the massive Content Creator Collective that all banded together to try to fool people into thinking Nexto was good.😅 You are correct that Nexto has good flicks. But let's not overlook it's defence as well. Nexto is referred to as a "GC" bot because it regularly beats GCs or at least gives them a good challenge. If you dont believe that all you have to do is go to the RLBot discord which regularly has high level players trying the bot and expressing their independent thoughts on its skills. But like all bots it has weaknesses. In videos you usually see people trying it for the first time and thus he will beat them. This is unprecedented territory for AI and I dont think it's incorrect to thus call it GC" unless you really want to get pedantic about it. Also I don't think it's fair to say the bot isn't good just because it uses one mechanic more than another. In fact I would expect there is a lot of GC ranked players that get to their rank while heavily relying on only a couple key mechanics or skills as well.
@@criticaldawg Good movement, fake challenge (better than some monkey GC1s!), and get a proper 50/50 on the ball. Has pretty good save positioning. Becomes more apparent when you learn to deal with the flicks.
you should work on updating the freestyle bot shots. They're very simple freestyle shots by modern standards. All of them are things any decent gc or above solo freestyler could do first try on command now
Why does this comment make it sound like Stallion was programmed 5 years ago? lol Some well-known and talented freestylers helped with Stallion (Panther & Mesko for example) and the hours that we spent in private matches trying to get some of these down tells me no, people don't do these first try. Yes there was some simpler shots in this video, but also a lot of the more complicated/longer HORSE type shots aren't really a good idea for a challenge like this. As seen with the results of the pogo attempt.
@@Rocket_Sledge That's fair that longer shots aren't very viable, and I didn't mean to call them bad shots, they are just generally comp style shots rather than solo freestyle shots, I guess that's my main shot. Players like Mesko are still absolutely at the top of the freestyle game but he's a comp clip hitter, his solo freestyling is good but theres better out there for what I think the spirit of the bot is, which is solo freestyling. It would just be nice to see things that have more recently become common in solo fs shots, like maktuf chain resets, jakze flips, just more creativity in general. Sorry if that last comment came off a bit harsh. They're good shots, but only really by comp standards rather than solo freestyle standards.
@@brettk5762 I'm not. At least by solo freestyle standards, in freeplay, these are somewhat simple shots even by the standards of the players who hit them for the bot. For comp shots or comp players like mesko, they would all be great shots to hit in game, but are lacking for freeplay
Weren’t stallion’s shot made from jakze? I feel like in thiz,video every shot from stalion were rusty like the shots involving a musty couldnt be called a musty Edit: in the second half of the vid the shot were clean
This is a really cool idea can't wait to see where bot development ends up
There someday will be a BRLCS. Everyone can programm their own bot and then some get chosen for the BRLCS and then the bots face off
@@siphermusic216 In case you dont know, RLBot already kind of does this with their Bot Championships.
@@Rocket_Sledge thats soooo cool can someone send me a link to a video like that? I just said that as a joke actually
@@siphermusic216 go to rlgym on twitch
@@siphermusic216 Here is the community: www.rlbot.org/ discord.gg/s57BZab
Bots should not be able to play this well...
Nexto is not even close to whats possible lol...
Rolv and soren are training a new bot called tecko :)
#dealwithit
The freestyle bot is literally just a replay
@@mitchelllee951 but have you seen nexto
Pov: You're called a bot sometime after watching this vid "Yo thanks my guy" 😩.
hey sledge your videos always find a way to amuse me thank you
you are welcome!
@@Rocket_Sledge video idea, one player from each rank will show off their skills and get a friend to try and guess what rank each person is (I think it’s been done before but it is a good video)
@@vness_. pretty sure rocket sledge himself done this
@@Bogxs not sure, I thought it was striped
@@Rocket_Sledge I love your videos
Super entertaining video! I love that you featured the bot devs and have them guess the outcome of each shot
Pros watching this realizing defeating Tecko with cheap air dribble tactics is gonna be even more difficult: 👁👄👁
Like, tecko is gunna be that one sweaty gc now instead of the carried gc that came from c2
@@sijenkai3928 he supposed to be an ssl tho
@@raaviolli not anymore, oof still can’t believe that they cancelled tecko
@@mesh8349 hell no, why?
@@raaviolli Lack of improvement or something like that
I mean this in the most polite way, but you three give off such podcast vibes in the way you talked with each other. Great video though! Very cool idea. Just thought I was gonna hear about squarespace or AirB&B hosting 😂
6:35 This is the greatest pogo I have ever seen!
Yo. Good to see you still making great content!
Recently started watching this channel, and it is really awesome! Love the vids.
Thank you! Glad you're here!
This video is absolutely amazing! Thanks and congrats to the devs on their awesone model!
loved the shout out to the freestyler who did that og shot. respect. sweet vid btw
thank you!
"Playing like a bot" is gradually becoming a compliment...
I want to see what a stallion could do if it could go higher or lower to avoid saves
U would have to program a brain on it then
@@fatmouse4279 yeah it might be even more complicated than nexto
@@mrdgamesrl not more complicated, hard to train specific mechanics though.
@@mrdgamesrl I dont think so because all you would be programming is the shot/mechanics and the brain to shoot around a player/avoid bumps
@@TheJacobi Oh if its so easy, you can shurely add it
I'd love to see competitive tournaments where bot creators create Rocket League bots and make them fight other people's bots. Kind of like chess bot tournaments.
That Plan B shot is actually insane
How Bot replacements in ssl lobbies should be:
imagine training the stallion to also use a neural Network to train against nexto to avoid saves
Stallion should learn some more insane shots
I love the videos and keep up the good work
we need second part, when stalion is going to be more trained by freestylers
I was looking forward to the psycho
now would it be possible to combine the two in a sense? like have a bot that plays and can automatically pick from a pool what to do depending on circumstances? I know boost would be a problem but i think it would be awesome if possible. maybe even unbeatable
hypercompetitive bot that simultaneously styles on their opponent mercilessly
Not currently because Stallions mechanics aren't actually real. If the ball was 1mm outside of where its suppose to be Stallion just doesn't work. Nexto is the exact opposite, where instead of built in coded plays, Nexto has tons and tons of constant micro adjustments to the point its unhuman
This bot needs to teach me his ways
Just opened. The vid already know it's gonna be a banger
I defenitly didn't see this one coming 👀
Same
I can't wait for next time someone calls me a bot now lol
cant wait for nexto v3
Never thought i will watch video, where are playing only bots
That is true, Rocket League is getting weird lmao.
Dude this is literally like, top percent TH-cam rocket league content
Thank you sir!
I was right! It is fluump vs Musty!
Good video sledge
Stallion wins in my mind personally it’s just a shot picking skill issue😅
Pov: You're called a bot sometime after watching this vid "Yo thanks my guy" 😩.
Great vid sledge!
this was cooler then expected
I mean idk if stallion can really be qualified for this because all he does is repeat the exact movements of a player
It would be really interesting if there is a bot that can do a flip reset while in a game tough
Has anyone done two Nexto up against each other?
Great format!
Is stallion actually an AI or does it just record input and play it back?
Would be interesting so see how Nexto handles a psycho
I have one in Stallion's library but Nexto never even lets him get setup for it.
This was great!
Imagine nexto but with full access to stallions freestyle library. He would dominate lobbies 😂
I personally think that nexto is awesome! I wanna 1v1 nexto when I get to grandchamp
This is crazy actually
Question: will there be a 2022 airshow?
As of right now there are no future Air Shows planned. Maybe next year.
Great idea. Great video.
Eyyy Feer I haven't seen you in a bit! How's it going :]
@@Bweyg been good. 👍 hope you have as well
Thank you!
Brains are better than mechanics is what I learned from this
Will stallion ever come out?
Cant wait for tesko to come
i like the little edit at 09:37, which probably means that wasn't on its first try.
Also explains why you went with a custom overlay a toddler could've made not showing the timer :)
Beautiful deception of 99.9% of your audience.
Wow that's great detective work, you might be the 00.1%! In reality what you're seeing is probably the state setting as the bot adjusts itself to match the exact starting point of the pre-recorded human shot it is about to repeat. As for the overlay? It's an altered version of the same HORSE overlay I used for my videos against Retals and Pulse Fire, which in turn I based off how Musty set up his HORSE videos. Time and score is irrelevant in these videos as it's just unlimited time private matches so it's the best place to put the graphics. Originally I asked my son to make it but he had to go for his nap so I had to do it all by myself!
anyone know the name of the intro music it's been bugging me for weeks that i can't find it
Shake Down by Jules Gaia
Rocket sledge, make a bot that watches all mustys videos and learns from them.
I flicked nexto
Great video👍
Thanks 👍
U went easy on the last shot. Great video though!
what if they combine nexto's comp skill and stallions freestyling abilities into 1 bot 😭
not possible, lol
@@quadblueshadow3132 maybe tecko will surprise us by clipping on everyone, i mean it did go for a ceiling shot once
@@quadblueshadow3132 how not
@@quadblueshadow3132 It's definitely possible, all you gotta do is program in all the possible setups, the shots that can follow the setups, and prioritize them according to which ones are likeliest to succeed depending on the scenario (amount of boost, amount of opponents and their location etc). It takes a hell of a lot of coding though, if you want the bot to have a varied shot selection.
i was cheering on the last shot WTF
rocket sledge always has banger video ideas
I was wondering how adobe illustrator was gonna play RL
Cool original idea!
Thanks!
I was rooting for Botimus
botimus would easily clap both of these bots 😎
When’s stallion releasing?
man I wanted to see a psycho xD
I did test the Psycho that Stallion knows (as seen in the Pulse Fire video). But Nexto never even let him get it set up, it was too long of a shot.
@@Rocket_Sledge that's pretty much what I expected lol, just would have been a funny one xD
If anyone makes stallion able to fake people, then he would’ve won
What if you combine these two
You here that freestylers? Its either no brain all mechs or the opposite kinda😂😂
Great vid
What car is stallen using i wanna become him
really wonder what would happen with nexto defending a psycho
Mix these two together and you got a grand champ bot
I have a qauestion when will this bot be released
I won't be taking questions. Sorry.
AI taking over
Hey sledge, what’s your previous controller sponsor? I need a new controller and I remember your sponsor has replaceable analog sticks.
That was the Thrustmaster Eswap
@@Rocket_Sledge thanks :)
Can someone tell me why RLBot isnt working? Itll do its normal start up and say “press any key to continue” but then when i actually press a key RLBot just closes itself. I miss playing against these crazy bots help would be appreciated
I would suggest heading to the RLBot Discord and posting in the help channel.
Yeah I'm trying to play against these diff bots but the bot just sits there every time I try to load in a game. :[
Try reinstalling the bot pack
brains might have won but im gonna stick to machanics lol
No u need both
My RLBotGUI doesn’t work for some reason
Love your voice !
same
combine these 2 bots so make stalien have a brain too
How do the developers get these bots too do this?
Lmak this was not supposed to be that close
One of them were the ball hit the wall and bounced up is from frontal panda
It is not. To learn a shot the freestyler has to be in the lobby with me and Stallion. Some of the ones I've used include Panther, Mesko, Reel, and Crunchy.
Sledge try creating a new preset which people will know that when they see it they will know its sledge.
(obv a red and yellow theme)
I've been using a few presets like that for the last 2 years. But I dont play so it's kinda pointless.
great video idea
Thanks!
Hi! Great content. Could you ask if there is any way to release this Nexto bot that behaves in a defensive way? I think it would be great to improve your shots just by having the ball and try to score it. Please let me know :)
Like you would want a Nexto that locks in place until you touch the ball?
Yeah!:) So you can practice ur shots on goal. Maybe have the ball a bit more on the players side instead of the middle(don’t know if that’s possible)
@@teunxl30 I'll look into it
hello do you know if we can get the bot and if so I can get it where?
Nexto is available through RLBot, Stallion is not public.
@@Rocket_Sledge is it impossible to get it?
When Is It Coming Out
So if I get called a bot that's a compliment
Nexto doesn't understand flip reset flicks
so is nexto going to train freestyler defense now?
He's very stubborn, so I doubt it.
Ik this is nit picky but what abt "she", they could be a he OR she. Sexist >:[ (guys calm down you don't have to sue me on twitter)
@@Bweyg It's my bot, so I think I get to decide that. ;)
@@Rocket_Sledge
Rocket Sledge: Literally features the developers of nexto in the video.
Also Rocket Sledge: "Nexto is my bot"
@@shadowyzephyr ah I somehow misread that the commenter was talking about Stallion.
"They're evolving"
kiddd i just downloaded nexto so i can hopefully get out of champ in 1s lmfao
You should run this more often off camera so Nexto learns how to defend in the air better
nexto doesnt learn outside of training instances. also I doubt stallion's library is that big, so even if nexto could learn that way, it would just learn to defend the specific shots that stallion has, and might not generalize that knowledge.
@@shadowyzephyr I didn’t know he didn’t learn out of training instances and if he did you have to realize that by learning how to save those freestyle shots he is still learning how to read what the opponent is doing in the air and that would help with airial defense
when can we get stallion?
Nexto is nothing like a gc. Don’t let these videos fool you. Lol all nexto does is flick it does absolutely nothing else just flick.
living up to your name I see.
Am I wrong though?
@@criticaldawg Mostly I'm concerned you are going to expose the massive Content Creator Collective that all banded together to try to fool people into thinking Nexto was good.😅
You are correct that Nexto has good flicks. But let's not overlook it's defence as well. Nexto is referred to as a "GC" bot because it regularly beats GCs or at least gives them a good challenge. If you dont believe that all you have to do is go to the RLBot discord which regularly has high level players trying the bot and expressing their independent thoughts on its skills.
But like all bots it has weaknesses. In videos you usually see people trying it for the first time and thus he will beat them. This is unprecedented territory for AI and I dont think it's incorrect to thus call it GC" unless you really want to get pedantic about it.
Also I don't think it's fair to say the bot isn't good just because it uses one mechanic more than another. In fact I would expect there is a lot of GC ranked players that get to their rank while heavily relying on only a couple key mechanics or skills as well.
@@Rocket_Sledge If you took away the fact it nearly has a perfect flick rate what else does nexto do?
@@criticaldawg Good movement, fake challenge (better than some monkey GC1s!), and get a proper 50/50 on the ball. Has pretty good save positioning. Becomes more apparent when you learn to deal with the flicks.
Will Stallion ever be released?
Y don’t u took the toxic nexto🤣🤣
Watching this months later as I lose to nexto in a ranked c3 2s match
Me a diamond can now finallx say: Bots play better than me
you should work on updating the freestyle bot shots. They're very simple freestyle shots by modern standards. All of them are things any decent gc or above solo freestyler could do first try on command now
Why does this comment make it sound like Stallion was programmed 5 years ago? lol Some well-known and talented freestylers helped with Stallion (Panther & Mesko for example) and the hours that we spent in private matches trying to get some of these down tells me no, people don't do these first try. Yes there was some simpler shots in this video, but also a lot of the more complicated/longer HORSE type shots aren't really a good idea for a challenge like this. As seen with the results of the pogo attempt.
First try on demand? lol what a joke dude. I hope you’re being sarcastic
@@Rocket_Sledge That's fair that longer shots aren't very viable, and I didn't mean to call them bad shots, they are just generally comp style shots rather than solo freestyle shots, I guess that's my main shot. Players like Mesko are still absolutely at the top of the freestyle game but he's a comp clip hitter, his solo freestyling is good but theres better out there for what I think the spirit of the bot is, which is solo freestyling. It would just be nice to see things that have more recently become common in solo fs shots, like maktuf chain resets, jakze flips, just more creativity in general. Sorry if that last comment came off a bit harsh. They're good shots, but only really by comp standards rather than solo freestyle standards.
@@brettk5762 I'm not. At least by solo freestyle standards, in freeplay, these are somewhat simple shots even by the standards of the players who hit them for the bot. For comp shots or comp players like mesko, they would all be great shots to hit in game, but are lacking for freeplay
@@fogpivvl8341 delusional
Weren’t stallion’s shot made from jakze? I feel like in thiz,video every shot from stalion were rusty like the shots involving a musty couldnt be called a musty
Edit: in the second half of the vid the shot were clean
Panther, Reel, Mesko, and Crunchy are the main freestylers I worked with for Stallion's shots.
I was triggered he didn’t do a sidewall