This whole time I assumed satsuma and clementines were it’s own thing and not a certain species of tangerine or mandarin. Can’t believe tangerines and mandarin are the the same the more you know huh. Super interesting video!
There are hundreds of different Tangerine and Mandarin varieties. The things they all have in common is they are generally smaller than sweet oranges, the skin tends to come off easily and the sections segment. Most of the ones we call Tangerines has that special smell too. Most of the Mandarins don't have a lot of perfume but even that isn't always the case.
Hi Bill I don't have any oranges or mandarine trees growing in the ground or in containers, although I wished I hadn't removed a navel orange tree from my yard well over 10 years ago. They were the best oranges. I have seen the Clementine mandarine here in Aussie, but I have never seen a tangerine tree in Australia. Here they call tangerines, mandarines. I have certainly seen tangelos and in fairly recent times tangors and other types of citrus. I'm not sure what the story is concerning citrus names, but that info about tangiers in Algeria was interesting and the name tangerine originating from there. It's interesting concerning the name of the variety satsuma, also happens to be my favourite Japanese blood plum. And you mention satsuma name for citrus. For me when you say satsuma, I immediately think of my favourite blood plum. Where I live the conditions are probably a bit too warm to successfully have a fruiting satsuma blood plum, at least that's what I have heard from local horticulturists and besides I don't have the room to grow one in my garden. I like citrus and a navel orange and tangor would be the trees I get first if I move to a larger property. I recently brought some dwarf French bean plants and didn't really check if they will grow and produce beans ok coming into winter. My jalapeno chillies are growing well. My youngest daughter must not like jalapeno chillies, she has said as much. She is getting bountiful chillies from her Thai chillie plant more than she and her partner can eat. My eldest daughter sent a picture of a recently grown and harvested baby squash which looked good. I would like to grow some zucchini, I will have to check the internet about best time to grow. I had eggplant growing well some time ago, but sort of ran out of ideas on ways to cook it. It is a bland vegetable. I like eggplant, but I prefer zucchini.
Your are correct. There is also a satsuma plum and a good one. IT was one of Luther Burbanks creations. The plant breeder from Sebastopol, California. The proper name of this orange is Owari Satsuma but we usually drop the Owari.
You say Redding, But Redding, being in that Valley has a climate much closer to that of death Valley, 120 summers 40s in winter. You pretty much convinced me to put one in my bay area backyard.
The story about the Redding grove was published in a CRFG Magazine a decade ago. I had the Satsuma in Fremont, CA and it did very well. Perhaps better than it grows in HI. th-cam.com/video/xxMCkLoQIB4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the good info, Bill. I have a few small mandarin trees (Owari, Okitsu, Ponkan, Shiranui) in pots, but they're young trees and haven't got mature fruit yet. The Mandarins, oranges, and limes seem to be a preferred target for scale in the greenhouse in the winter. Strangely, the scale seems uninterested in the lemon trees. I put the citrus trees outdoors 2 weeks ago to see if the big bugs will keep the scale off, and so far, haven't seen any scale on them. The weather has been a little cool and wet this April, but the trees don't seem to mind. I notice the trees get a touch of sunburn on a sunny day, but I'm guessing they'll adapt soon. Another thing to find out is if our Seattle area slugs will bother them or not.
Slugs love citrus. Scale will feed on lemon too. The lack of scale on the lemon is just because the ants haven't spread it there yet. Use double sided scotch tape on the branches to monitor for when the hatch of crawlers occurs then spray with horticultural oil to kill them. Try giving the citrus part shade when you move it to the outdoors next year. This will harden the foliage before going to full sun. You will have less burning.
Interesting! That Satsuma tree you have is absolutely gorgeous...can imagine the smell sitting here typing this. Can you start the Satsuma from seeds? Can you grow Satsuma in S. Florida? Thank-you. Cheers, B.
Satsuma is one of the citrus that can be see up in the panhandle right near the Gulf. It would probably grow in the Southern part of the state. I don't recall ever having seen it but it is probably there somewhere. I know we got Florida Satsuma in Chicago around Christmas. Satsuma is generally seedless but the seeds that do form are not likely to produce desirable trees.
Hi Bill, Josette and I are still waiting for our appraisal to go thru, (we stopped by a few weeks or so ago) if the real estate deal does in fact, go thru, you better believe we will be stopping by to buy some trees from you next time we come over. I remember smelling something so pleasant during your tour that, I’m thinking it was the citrus of one type or another that you have there.🌈😃🤙
It was citrus. The lime and the blood orange were blooming at the time. Right now the Satsuma is blooming and it powerful enough to make me nose blind.
I used to have this problem in the nursery. People would bring me fruit from century old orange trees to identify. When i identified the fruit as common citrus like Valencia they refused to believe me because the flavor was so good. Most folks don't realize age effect citrus quality. Land in California is too valuable to allow citrus to exist in a location much longer than 25 years or so.
Hello Bill, I have 2 jackfruit trees that have grown like crazy the past few months and I’m looking to repot them. Is there a soil mix you would recommend for jackfruit? I’m using the standard miracle grow potting mix, but I have been having issues with root rot and am trying to find something better.
I'm going to get sued by Scott's and attacked my devotes of Miracle Grow but their soil products are some of the worst on the market. Avoid them like the plague. The problem you are experiencing is exactly why there product is bad. It contains a high amount of very fine particles, probably from black peat. The stuff will rot the roots off of any sensitive plant. Consider using Pro Mix of Sunshine Mix professional growing media. IF you can't find these then consider G & B soils.
Bill I have a question. I always try to grow things from seed. I see so many citrus seeds being sold on line. Will I get true to seed fruit from for example blood orange seeds or Myer lemon seeds? Or are most citrus grafted plants? What cultivars are true to seed?
There are very few citrus that will come true from seeds. They are mostly complex hybrids that will become random when propagated sexually. There are exceptions but that is a long discussion. Citrus are always propagated commercially by grafting or from cuttings. Most are grafted but Meyer Lemon is often grown from cuttings. It is only a guess but I suspect the Kumquat may come fairly true from seeds. That is about the only one. Most of the rest will yield more strangeness than similarity.
Flying Dragon is the best root stock for container citrus. You are off to a good start. Citrus in pots will require more fertilizer than most people are used to using. Be care full to address the feeding schedule. Aloha
Thanks for a fascinating history and discussion of sensory quality factors! You evaluate tropical fruit the way I used to evaluate grape quality for wine. Do you know Ken Love, a tropical fruit grower and former chef, over here in South Kona? He's kind of a local celebrity on promoting Hawaii agriculture and rare fruit varieties. I had an Owari Satsuma mandarin in my backyard in northern California. I'm in north Kona now, have some property at 1500 ft. elevation, high above Kona airport and I want to grow it again! I agree with you that it's not a consistent bearer. I think Four Winds nursery in California was the main supplier there, and here it's Plant It Hawaii. This time I want to have a standard tree and not a dwarf (the retail nurseries always want to sell dwarf trees). I never got very much crop from dwarf trees. Citrus can be managed very well by careful pruning, without resorting to dwarfing stocks. I think dwarf citrus is fine for containers, but if you have the luxury of a big yard, why not have a big, beautiful tree? You're never going to get a better lush, green privacy screen in a suburban Hawaii neighborhood. The aroma of the flowers alone is worth the price of admission.
It's interesting that in Mexico, where I lived many, many years ago, the word "tangerine" is almost unknown. The word in Spanish is "mandarinas", and the slipskin varieties like Clementines are an important part of Christmas and New Year's parties. In olden days before the wide distribution of mass-produced candy, pinatas used to be filled with "mandarinas" as well as assorted home-made candies. Children used to sing songs about mandarinas in season.
As far as dwarf trees are concerned, they bear as much as standard trees and grow as large. The main difference is they bear fruit earlier and the growth rate is slower. The typical dwarfing root stock is Trifoliate orange. It did very well in California but I don't care for it much in Hawaii. It doesn't spread root as fast and as far as rough lemon or other standard stock. It doesn't forage for nutrients as well either. Most Hawaiian soils are marginal at best. Last I checked Plant it Hawaii was still grafting in both dwarf and standard. My tree is from them on a standard root stock. I have a few air layers in my tree but this is experimental. I have no idea how Satsuma will grow on it's own roots.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 The Satsuma in Puna is on standard root stock but the one in California was on Dwarf. They ended up about the same size eventually. I find on marginal soil conditions that the standard stock is better. It is larger and forages for nutrients better.
We have a bag of "cuties" sitting on our kitchen counter...lol Attempt at clever marketing i guess. Maybe a few kids will want a "cutie" instead of a bag of candy orange slices.
My complaint with Cutie is that the tangerine in the bag already had two official names. By giving it a third trade name it just confuses people. Folks used to come to the nursery in CA asking me for a Cutie tree. They were often disbelieving me when i told them no such thing exists. The Cutie isn't always Clementine either. It depends on the season as to what's in the box.
I used to have a nice Nagami tree in Fremont, CA, there are some videos on the channel about it. I looked at a Mewi kumquat last week but walked away. It will happen eventually
Nice bill. Is it possible to protect a citrus tree from winters where it could get into the single digits. Also , do you still wrap your grilled salmon in banana leaves. Have a blessed day.
Yes, I still wrap food in banana leaves but in Hawaii Ahi, Mahi mahi and Ono are more common than the Salmon I used to get in California. Nope, sorry single digits are a death sentence for citrus. My mother in Chicago used to drag hers into the basement under grow lights for the winter. When she killed one she used to call me in CA to ship a new one.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thanks bill. I will try the banana leaf salmon sometime. Sounds interesting. Sorry to hear about your moms trees. She sounds like a great lady.
@@stevebetker829 Mom is long gone along with her trees these days. I used to think it was funny. She had me living in California and selling citrus trees. She definitely took advantage of her situation. Sometimes the squirrels would eat the bark off the trees, other times she would get so much scale that she would give up and leave them to freeze. Other times she would actually pick fruit!
No, different citrus do have annual cycles but when the cycles occur varies due to climate and weather. Minneola in Southern CA is ripe in Feb. In the Bay Area it is ripe in April and May. In Hawaii it is ripe in January but different flowerings over lap.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Now, another 2 are blooming also. I don't know why are they early-maturing？ I took pictures of them and pinched one tiny orange off .
@@lilyli2460 I am clueless. I would have to see this to believe it. A seedling from an orange less than a year old with flowers and fruit is something for Guinness Book of World records. It is outside of my experience to understand how such a thing can happen.
I have many interesting fruit trees in my nursery but propagation of citrus isn't something I do much of. Plant it Hawaii is 4 miles down the road from me in Kurtistown. They are the largest purveyor of citrus trees on the Big Island. I stay out of their way. They do a fine job.
I FOUND MY SATSUMA MANDARIN!!!! Went to Lowe's today and lo and behold I saw 2 puny ones. I pushed all the way back and found one that looked a little healthier.. It's grafted on a long base. 🤪. I think the tree is confused, identifying card says from Plant It in Kurtistown but the sticker on the front days Pukalani, lol.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Best of luck with the tree. I am reaching the end of crops for the year on Dancy Tangerine, Fairchild tangelo and Page tangelo hybrid. OF the three Page is tops. The other two are good with Dancy having better flavor that Fairchild. The grapefruit smell on Fairchild is pretty strong.
The only time i ever use the paper towel is to get a germination percentage count. When growing seeds i always place them in the media they will grow in. A seed starting mix is best but commercial growers mixes like Sungrow or Pro-Mix work fine.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Plant it Hawaii in Kurtistown grows them. I bought one off the porch at Ace Hardware in Keauu. Paradise Plants and Garden exchange both deal trees from Plant it Hawaii.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Plant it Hawaii trees can be found on Oahu at: Asagi Hatchery - (808) 845.4522 Chester Yamato - (808) 455.8780 Frankie’s Nursery - (808) 259.8737 Happy Plants - (808) 259.5090 Ko’olau Farmers, Kailua - (808) 263.4414 Ko’olau Farmers, Kaneohe - (808) 247.3911 Ko’olau Farmers, McCully - (808) 843.0436 Sharon’s Plants - (808) 259.7137 The Plant Place - (808) 259.9216 Waiahole Nursery & Garden - (808) 239.6311 *Our trees can also be found at many Home Depot & Lowes locations in the state.
Awesome information should u just graft it from the 50 year old original satsumas that’s great. I heard same thing from an older grower too. It’s considered japans king 👑 of mandarin
The orange reverts to juvenile growth when grafted. The only way to get a fifty year old tree with 50 year quality fruit is to plant it and leave it to the children or live a nice long life.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it was an idea, with the measurement of the sugar rate compared to the acidity rate, and the flavor would allow to know which fruit it is. And it's easier to eat a Tangerine because everything comes off very easily
Sorry pal, you got it all wrong. Mandarins and Tangerines are the same thing. Many varieties have both names applied. Honey is often called Honey Mandarin or Honey tangerine. In general the trees that came to the USA directly from China and Japan are referred to as Mandarins. The ones that made a stop in north Africa at Catholic missions in Tangiers are usually called tangerines after Tangiers. The most famous of these is The Clementine or Algerian selected by father Clemente in tangiers. Clementine is sold these days under the name Cuties along with several other types. It is seedless when planted alone but seedy as all get out if planted with other varieties. Many common tangerines today are very seedy. If you want a strong smelly seedy type with a great taste plant Kinnow. All mandarins aka tangerines are hybrids. The nearest thing to an open pollinated tangerine is probably Kishu. None of this info is mine. I got it straight from Don Dillon the man who invented the dwarf citrus tree and started 4 Winds Citrus in CA.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 My mother in law, who is 70, has a tangerine tree that is 90+ years old, that her grandfather had planted when they built their home. The fruit is as its name, tangy as heck. Every version, Mandarin, clementine, etc.. don't even come close. Infact, most taste more like an orange, if they even have any taste at all. These little guys will damn near make you swallow your tongue, their so tangy! ;-) Infact, as old as it is, I'm going to try to propagate some of the seeds this year.
@@natureboy6410 You never know about old trees. Usually they are the same genetics as our modern trees because Tangerine types don't really disappear much. What you have observed though is something few people know. The older a citrus tree becomes the better the fruit tastes as long as the tree is healthy. Oranges from 50 year old trees are much better than oranges from the same tree that is 12 years old. It isn't likely the tree will be true to seed but you could plant the seeds then use them as root stock to graft a branch from the existing tree. Provided the tree has no systemic disease.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Thanks for the idea. Think I'll try both. No harm in trying. ;-) If I could get them going, I know I'd have no issues with selling them. How hard is it to get a small farmers loan?
@@natureboy6410 I have never tried to apply with the government for a loan. A friend of mine is a master at writing grants and proposals to the government. He has used the system to his advantage but it has it's short comings too. The AG were always around his place looking for pests and setting traps. I guess if you are good at this type of stuff it isn't too hard. You need a business plan and you have to convince the government it will work. I prefer to just go to a bank if i need money.
This whole time I assumed satsuma and clementines were it’s own thing and not a certain species of tangerine or mandarin. Can’t believe tangerines and mandarin are the the same the more you know huh. Super interesting video!
There are hundreds of different Tangerine and Mandarin varieties. The things they all have in common is they are generally smaller than sweet oranges, the skin tends to come off easily and the sections segment. Most of the ones we call Tangerines has that special smell too. Most of the Mandarins don't have a lot of perfume but even that isn't always the case.
i can just vision the how wonderful the the air must smell with sweetness of the fruit trees,you are blessed
No special blessings required. Just plant a Satsuma and be kind to it. The tree picks no favorites. Any good gardener will do.
Hi Bill
I don't have any oranges or mandarine trees growing in the ground or in containers, although I wished I hadn't removed a navel orange tree from my yard well over 10 years ago. They were the best oranges. I have seen the Clementine mandarine here in Aussie, but I have never seen a tangerine tree in Australia. Here they call tangerines, mandarines. I have certainly seen tangelos and in fairly recent times tangors and other types of citrus. I'm not sure what the story is concerning citrus names, but that info about tangiers in Algeria was interesting and the name tangerine originating from there. It's interesting concerning the name of the variety satsuma, also happens to be my favourite Japanese blood plum. And you mention satsuma name for citrus. For me when you say satsuma, I immediately think of my favourite blood plum. Where I live the conditions are probably a bit too warm to successfully have a fruiting satsuma blood plum, at least that's what I have heard from local horticulturists and besides I don't have the room to grow one in my garden. I like citrus and a navel orange and tangor would be the trees I get first if I move to a larger property. I recently brought some dwarf French bean plants and didn't really check if they will grow and produce beans ok coming into winter. My jalapeno chillies are growing well. My youngest daughter must not like jalapeno chillies, she has said as much. She is getting bountiful chillies from her Thai chillie plant more than she and her partner can eat. My eldest daughter sent a picture of a recently grown and harvested baby squash which looked good. I would like to grow some zucchini, I will have to check the internet about best time to grow. I had eggplant growing well some time ago, but sort of ran out of ideas on ways to cook it. It is a bland vegetable. I like eggplant, but I prefer zucchini.
Your are correct. There is also a satsuma plum and a good one. IT was one of Luther Burbanks creations. The plant breeder from Sebastopol, California. The proper name of this orange is Owari Satsuma but we usually drop the Owari.
You say Redding, But Redding, being in that Valley has a climate much closer to that of death Valley, 120 summers 40s in winter. You pretty much convinced me to put one in my bay area backyard.
The story about the Redding grove was published in a CRFG Magazine a decade ago. I had the Satsuma in Fremont, CA and it did very well. Perhaps better than it grows in HI. th-cam.com/video/xxMCkLoQIB4/w-d-xo.html
Good video, Bill ! I actually researched all that once...the crossover in names was initially driving me nuts...lol
When I ran Navlet's Nursery in the Bay Area this question used come up. My answer came from Don Dillion the man that started Four Winds Citrus.
Thanks for the good info, Bill. I have a few small mandarin trees (Owari, Okitsu, Ponkan, Shiranui) in pots, but they're young trees and haven't got mature fruit yet. The Mandarins, oranges, and limes seem to be a preferred target for scale in the greenhouse in the winter. Strangely, the scale seems uninterested in the lemon trees. I put the citrus trees outdoors 2 weeks ago to see if the big bugs will keep the scale off, and so far, haven't seen any scale on them. The weather has been a little cool and wet this April, but the trees don't seem to mind. I notice the trees get a touch of sunburn on a sunny day, but I'm guessing they'll adapt soon. Another thing to find out is if our Seattle area slugs will bother them or not.
Slugs love citrus. Scale will feed on lemon too. The lack of scale on the lemon is just because the ants haven't spread it there yet. Use double sided scotch tape on the branches to monitor for when the hatch of crawlers occurs then spray with horticultural oil to kill them. Try giving the citrus part shade when you move it to the outdoors next year. This will harden the foliage before going to full sun. You will have less burning.
Interesting! That Satsuma tree you have is absolutely gorgeous...can imagine the smell sitting here typing this. Can you start the Satsuma from seeds? Can you grow Satsuma in S. Florida?
Thank-you. Cheers, B.
Satsuma is one of the citrus that can be see up in the panhandle right near the Gulf. It would probably grow in the Southern part of the state. I don't recall ever having seen it but it is probably there somewhere. I know we got Florida Satsuma in Chicago around Christmas. Satsuma is generally seedless but the seeds that do form are not likely to produce desirable trees.
Hi Bill, Josette and I are still waiting for our appraisal to go thru, (we stopped by a few weeks or so ago) if the real estate deal does in fact, go thru, you better believe we will be stopping by to buy some trees from you next time we come over. I remember smelling something so pleasant during your tour that, I’m thinking it was the citrus of one type or another that you have there.🌈😃🤙
It was citrus. The lime and the blood orange were blooming at the time. Right now the Satsuma is blooming and it powerful enough to make me nose blind.
Awesome
One of my favorite fruits. Aloha
It's true about the older trees. My hometown (Redlands, CA) maintains a grove of 100+ year old orange trees. The fruit is top notch.
I used to have this problem in the nursery. People would bring me fruit from century old orange trees to identify. When i identified the fruit as common citrus like Valencia they refused to believe me because the flavor was so good. Most folks don't realize age effect citrus quality. Land in California is too valuable to allow citrus to exist in a location much longer than 25 years or so.
Hello Bill, I have 2 jackfruit trees that have grown like crazy the past few months and I’m looking to repot them. Is there a soil mix you would recommend for jackfruit? I’m using the standard miracle grow potting mix, but I have been having issues with root rot and am trying to find something better.
I'm going to get sued by Scott's and attacked my devotes of Miracle Grow but their soil products are some of the worst on the market. Avoid them like the plague. The problem you are experiencing is exactly why there product is bad. It contains a high amount of very fine particles, probably from black peat. The stuff will rot the roots off of any sensitive plant. Consider using Pro Mix of Sunshine Mix professional growing media. IF you can't find these then consider G & B soils.
Thanks! I will track one of these down!
Bill I have a question. I always try to grow things from seed. I see so many citrus seeds being sold on line. Will I get true to seed fruit from for example blood orange seeds or Myer lemon seeds? Or are most citrus grafted plants? What cultivars are true to seed?
There are very few citrus that will come true from seeds. They are mostly complex hybrids that will become random when propagated sexually. There are exceptions but that is a long discussion. Citrus are always propagated commercially by grafting or from cuttings. Most are grafted but Meyer Lemon is often grown from cuttings. It is only a guess but I suspect the Kumquat may come fairly true from seeds. That is about the only one. Most of the rest will yield more strangeness than similarity.
I bought a dwarf one on flying Dragon rootstock and going to try my luck at container gardening.
Flying Dragon is the best root stock for container citrus. You are off to a good start. Citrus in pots will require more fertilizer than most people are used to using. Be care full to address the feeding schedule. Aloha
Thanks for a fascinating history and discussion of sensory quality factors! You evaluate tropical fruit the way I used to evaluate grape quality for wine. Do you know Ken Love, a tropical fruit grower and former chef, over here in South Kona? He's kind of a local celebrity on promoting Hawaii agriculture and rare fruit varieties.
I had an Owari Satsuma mandarin in my backyard in northern California. I'm in north Kona now, have some property at 1500 ft. elevation, high above Kona airport and I want to grow it again! I agree with you that it's not a consistent bearer.
I think Four Winds nursery in California was the main supplier there, and here it's Plant It Hawaii. This time I want to have a standard tree and not a dwarf (the retail nurseries always want to sell dwarf trees). I never got very much crop from dwarf trees. Citrus can be managed very well by careful pruning, without resorting to dwarfing stocks. I think dwarf citrus is fine for containers, but if you have the luxury of a big yard, why not have a big, beautiful tree? You're never going to get a better lush, green privacy screen in a suburban Hawaii neighborhood. The aroma of the flowers alone is worth the price of admission.
It's interesting that in Mexico, where I lived many, many years ago, the word "tangerine" is almost unknown. The word in Spanish is "mandarinas", and the slipskin varieties like Clementines are an important part of Christmas and New Year's parties. In olden days before the wide distribution of mass-produced candy, pinatas used to be filled with "mandarinas" as well as assorted home-made candies. Children used to sing songs about mandarinas in season.
As far as dwarf trees are concerned, they bear as much as standard trees and grow as large. The main difference is they bear fruit earlier and the growth rate is slower. The typical dwarfing root stock is Trifoliate orange. It did very well in California but I don't care for it much in Hawaii. It doesn't spread root as fast and as far as rough lemon or other standard stock. It doesn't forage for nutrients as well either. Most Hawaiian soils are marginal at best. Last I checked Plant it Hawaii was still grafting in both dwarf and standard. My tree is from them on a standard root stock. I have a few air layers in my tree but this is experimental. I have no idea how Satsuma will grow on it's own roots.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 no wonder your satsuma is so lush and big! It's a standard! So beautiful!
@@corlissyamasaki3476 The Satsuma in Puna is on standard root stock but the one in California was on Dwarf. They ended up about the same size eventually. I find on marginal soil conditions that the standard stock is better. It is larger and forages for nutrients better.
Damn great info 🤙
This was always a question in the nursery. What is the difference? Aloha
We have a bag of "cuties" sitting on our kitchen counter...lol Attempt at clever marketing i guess. Maybe a few kids will want a "cutie" instead of a bag of candy orange slices.
My complaint with Cutie is that the tangerine in the bag already had two official names. By giving it a third trade name it just confuses people. Folks used to come to the nursery in CA asking me for a Cutie tree. They were often disbelieving me when i told them no such thing exists. The Cutie isn't always Clementine either. It depends on the season as to what's in the box.
Hey Bill, do you grow a Nagami Kumquat Tree in Puna?
I used to have a nice Nagami tree in Fremont, CA, there are some videos on the channel about it. I looked at a Mewi kumquat last week but walked away. It will happen eventually
Nice bill. Is it possible to protect a citrus tree from winters where it could get into the single digits. Also , do you still wrap your grilled salmon in banana leaves. Have a blessed day.
Yes, I still wrap food in banana leaves but in Hawaii Ahi, Mahi mahi and Ono are more common than the Salmon I used to get in California.
Nope, sorry single digits are a death sentence for citrus. My mother in Chicago used to drag hers into the basement under grow lights for the winter. When she killed one she used to call me in CA to ship a new one.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thanks bill. I will try the banana leaf salmon sometime. Sounds interesting. Sorry to hear about your moms trees. She sounds like a great lady.
@@stevebetker829 Mom is long gone along with her trees these days. I used to think it was funny. She had me living in California and selling citrus trees. She definitely took advantage of her situation. Sometimes the squirrels would eat the bark off the trees, other times she would get so much scale that she would give up and leave them to freeze. Other times she would actually pick fruit!
When do your citrus ripen there? Same timeline as California?
No, different citrus do have annual cycles but when the cycles occur varies due to climate and weather. Minneola in Southern CA is ripe in Feb. In the Bay Area it is ripe in April and May. In Hawaii it is ripe in January but different flowerings over lap.
Hay videos así en castellano?
Mis videos tienden a ser únicos. No hablo español por lo que no puedo ayudarte con la solicitud.
Bill, I planted several seeds from store bought Oranges last winter. Now They are blooming white flowers! Is this normal for citrus ?
No, I have never seen a citrus seedling bloom in less than 5 or 6 years. One year is unheard of.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Now, another 2 are blooming also. I don't know why are they early-maturing？ I took pictures of them and pinched one tiny orange off .
@@lilyli2460 I am clueless. I would have to see this to believe it. A seedling from an orange less than a year old with flowers and fruit is something for Guinness Book of World records. It is outside of my experience to understand how such a thing can happen.
Bill do you have any for sale? and Calamansi? i'm down the way from you. Would love to support your nursery.
I have many interesting fruit trees in my nursery but propagation of citrus isn't something I do much of. Plant it Hawaii is 4 miles down the road from me in Kurtistown. They are the largest purveyor of citrus trees on the Big Island. I stay out of their way. They do a fine job.
I FOUND MY SATSUMA MANDARIN!!!! Went to Lowe's today and lo and behold I saw 2 puny ones. I pushed all the way back and found one that looked a little healthier.. It's grafted on a long base. 🤪. I think the tree is confused, identifying card says from Plant It in Kurtistown but the sticker on the front days Pukalani, lol.
they are almost always under size. They grow slow, are very popular and never get a chance to size up until they enter some ones garden. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Mahalo for all the encouragement!
@@GreenGardenGuy1 you were so right! In 2 years, my Satsuma mandarin is really growing!! I'm hoping to have a few flowers soon!
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Best of luck with the tree. I am reaching the end of crops for the year on Dancy Tangerine, Fairchild tangelo and Page tangelo hybrid. OF the three Page is tops. The other two are good with Dancy having better flavor that Fairchild. The grapefruit smell on Fairchild is pretty strong.
When starting from seed, what's recommended, straight in the soil or the notorious paper towel business?
The only time i ever use the paper towel is to get a germination percentage count. When growing seeds i always place them in the media they will grow in. A seed starting mix is best but commercial growers mixes like Sungrow or Pro-Mix work fine.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Thanks for your response, I really appreciate your advice.
@@hiromikami Sure enough.
Did you bring your owari satsuma from the mainland?
Nope. I planted a brand new one. It is never worth the effort to dig up fruit trees, they suffer from it. Brand new ones take off faster.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 where did you buy it from? Most will not mail to Hawaii.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Plant it Hawaii in Kurtistown grows them. I bought one off the porch at Ace Hardware in Keauu. Paradise Plants and Garden exchange both deal trees from Plant it Hawaii.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Mahalo, I will try and see if they send to Oahu.
@@corlissyamasaki3476 Plant it Hawaii trees can be found on Oahu at:
Asagi Hatchery - (808) 845.4522
Chester Yamato - (808) 455.8780
Frankie’s Nursery - (808) 259.8737
Happy Plants - (808) 259.5090
Ko’olau Farmers, Kailua - (808) 263.4414
Ko’olau Farmers, Kaneohe - (808) 247.3911
Ko’olau Farmers, McCully - (808) 843.0436
Sharon’s Plants - (808) 259.7137
The Plant Place - (808) 259.9216
Waiahole Nursery & Garden - (808) 239.6311
*Our trees can also be found at many Home Depot & Lowes locations in the state.
Awesome information should u just graft it from the 50 year old original satsumas that’s great. I heard same thing from an older grower too. It’s considered japans king 👑 of mandarin
The orange reverts to juvenile growth when grafted. The only way to get a fifty year old tree with 50 year quality fruit is to plant it and leave it to the children or live a nice long life.
I would say you have to measure the nutrients and compare
What would the conclusion of this comparison be?
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it was an idea, with the measurement of the sugar rate compared to the acidity rate, and the flavor would allow to know which fruit it is.
And it's easier to eat a Tangerine because everything comes off very easily
@@pauljacques4157 I see. If all the fruit was grown in the same area this could work. Fruit grown in different regions would be different.
True old school tangerine have paper skin, are very tangy and very seedy. Very hard to find. Mandarins are hybrids.
Sorry pal, you got it all wrong. Mandarins and Tangerines are the same thing. Many varieties have both names applied. Honey is often called Honey Mandarin or Honey tangerine. In general the trees that came to the USA directly from China and Japan are referred to as Mandarins. The ones that made a stop in north Africa at Catholic missions in Tangiers are usually called tangerines after Tangiers. The most famous of these is The Clementine or Algerian selected by father Clemente in tangiers. Clementine is sold these days under the name Cuties along with several other types. It is seedless when planted alone but seedy as all get out if planted with other varieties. Many common tangerines today are very seedy. If you want a strong smelly seedy type with a great taste plant Kinnow. All mandarins aka tangerines are hybrids. The nearest thing to an open pollinated tangerine is probably Kishu. None of this info is mine. I got it straight from Don Dillon the man who invented the dwarf citrus tree and started 4 Winds Citrus in CA.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 My mother in law, who is 70, has a tangerine tree that is 90+ years old, that her grandfather had planted when they built their home. The fruit is as its name, tangy as heck. Every version, Mandarin, clementine, etc.. don't even come close. Infact, most taste more like an orange, if they even have any taste at all. These little guys will damn near make you swallow your tongue, their so tangy! ;-) Infact, as old as it is, I'm going to try to propagate some of the seeds this year.
@@natureboy6410 You never know about old trees. Usually they are the same genetics as our modern trees because Tangerine types don't really disappear much. What you have observed though is something few people know. The older a citrus tree becomes the better the fruit tastes as long as the tree is healthy. Oranges from 50 year old trees are much better than oranges from the same tree that is 12 years old. It isn't likely the tree will be true to seed but you could plant the seeds then use them as root stock to graft a branch from the existing tree. Provided the tree has no systemic disease.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Thanks for the idea. Think I'll try both. No harm in trying. ;-) If I could get them going, I know I'd have no issues with selling them. How hard is it to get a small farmers loan?
@@natureboy6410 I have never tried to apply with the government for a loan. A friend of mine is a master at writing grants and proposals to the government. He has used the system to his advantage but it has it's short comings too. The AG were always around his place looking for pests and setting traps. I guess if you are good at this type of stuff it isn't too hard. You need a business plan and you have to convince the government it will work. I prefer to just go to a bank if i need money.