How Star Vs the Forces of Evil Fell From Grace
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- Star Vs. the Forces of Evil used to be my top favorite show by a longshot, but throughout its 3rd and 4th season, I noticed a decline in its writing quality.
In this video, I go through what exactly made this show fantastic, and how it "fell from grace."
Credits:
Antagonist 1 - TBlofeld
Shipping 1 - Matthew
Antagonist 2 - Tblofeld
- Moon section (More Soup)
- Edited by Matthew
Continuity 2
- Edited by Headband Guy
Characters 2 - Rainbow
- Tom section (Rainbow)
- Eclipsa/Globgor Section (Rainbow)
- Edited by Matthew
Shipping 2 - Helped by Matthew
- Star was a terrible girlfriend (World of Meli)
- Star selfish genocide (sloppyjeaux)
- Edited by Matthew
Post Wendy Era
- Edited by Headband Guy
The Potential
- Edited by Headband Guy
And I just want to give another megalodon thank you to Headband Guy (Blier) and Matthew for editing/adding the visuals to the large majority of this video.
Seriously, this video would not be releasing ANYWHERE near today if they had not helped out.
Matthew / Matthematical Reactions - / @matthematicalreactions
Blier / Headband Guy - / @headbandguy
TBlofeld's Rewrite: archiveofourown.org/works/190...
00:00 - Introduction
[POSITIVE REVIEW]
00:55 - Overarching Story/Plot
03:31 - Side Note: Bon Bon the Birthday Clown
05:23 - Antagonist/Toffee
08:39 - Continuity
11:20 - Characters
14:43 - Shipping
15:42 - Shipping: Jarco
17:42 - Shipping: Starco
18:08 - Side Note: Blood Moon Disqualifier
19:18 - Positive Overview
[NEGATIVE REVIEW]
19:45 - Seasonal Story/Plot
28:47 - Antagonists
31:59 - Antagonists - Meteora Butterfly
33:08 - Antagonists - Mina Loveberry
34:05 - Antagonists - Moon Butterfly
37:34 - Continuity 2
56:27 - Side Note: Marco's Cheekmarks (and cheekmarks in general)
57:50 - Side Note: Beating Around the Bush
58:55 - Side Note: The Magic Book of Spells
1:00:50 - Side Note: Eclipsa's "Darkest Spell"
1:01:32 - Characters 2
1:04:17 - Side Note: Marco and Star become terrible people
1:10:10 - Shipping 2
1:10:30 - Shipping 2: Jarco
1:14:08 - Shipping 2: Tomstar
1:16:24 - Shipping 2: Kellco
1:18:46 - Shipping 2: Starco
1:23:53 - Side Note: Teenagers are Dumb
1:27:30 - Post Wendy Era
1:27:50 - Post Wendy Era: Doop Doop/Britta's Tacos
1:30:39 - Post Wendy Era - Beach Day/Gone Baby Gone
1:32:23 - Post Wendy Era - Sad Teen Hotline/Jannanigans
1:33:34 - Post Wendy Era - Mama Star/Read Aim Fire
1:35:11 - Post Wendy Era - The Right Way/Here to Help
1:39:31 - Post Wendy Era - Pizza Party/The Tavern At The End Of The Multiverse
1:43:11 - Post Wendy Era - Cleaved
1:53:10 - Post Finale Disaster
1:58:19 - What Went Wrong
2:01:45 - The Potential
2:04:15 - The Potential: 1. Toffee's Death
2:05:03 - The Potential: 2. Toffee's Backstory/motives
2:05:49 - The Potential: 3. Little to No Loose Ends
2:07:23 - The Potential: 4. Good Old Fashioned Montage
2:08:01 - The Potential: 5. Shipping
2:08:44 - The Potential: Shipping - Ending A. Jarco
2:09:17 - The Potential: Shipping - Ending B. Starco
2:10:38 - Ending
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I used to put Star Vs. the Forces of Evil on a very high pedestal. After all, it was the show that became my # 1 favorite _within its first season._ But throughout Season 3 and Season 4, I noticed a decline in its writing quality. Plot points were dropped or ignored, huge things would come out of seemingly nowhere, and the story seemed become more and more neglected by the writers (who seemed to have favored shipping-drama more).
In this video, I go through what exactly made this show fantastic, and how it declined in quality.
*_[TABLE OF CONTENTS]_*
(Credit to Headband Guy / Blier for getting the timestamps)
00:00 - Introduction
*[POSITIVE REVIEW]*
00:55 - Overarching Story/Plot
03:31 - _Side Note: Bon Bon the Birthday Clown_
05:23 - Antagonist/Toffee
08:39 - Continuity
11:20 - Characters
14:43 - Shipping
15:42 - _Shipping: Jarco_
17:42 - _Shipping: Starco_
18:08 - _Side Note: Blood Moon Disqualifier_
19:18 - Positive Overview
*[NEGATIVE REVIEW]*
19:45 - Seasonal Story/Plot
28:47 - Antagonists
31:59 - _Antagonists - Meteora Butterfly_
33:08 - _Antagonists - Mina Loveberry_
34:05 - _Antagonists - Moon Butterfly_
37:34 - Continuity 2
56:27 - _Side Note: Marco's Cheekmarks (and cheekmarks in general)_
57:50 - _Side Note: Beating Around the Bush_
58:55 - _Side Note: The Magic Book of Spells_
1:00:50 - _Side Note: Eclipsa's "Darkest Spell"_
1:01:32 - Characters 2
1:04:17 - _Side Note: Marco and Star become terrible people_
1:10:10 - Shipping 2
1:10:30 - _Shipping 2: Jarco_
1:14:08 - _Shipping 2: Tomstar_
1:16:24 - _Shipping 2: Kellco_
1:18:46 - _Shipping 2: Starco_
1:23:53 - _Side Note: Teenagers are Dumb_
1:27:30 - Post Wendy Era
1:27:50 - _Post Wendy Era: Doop Doop/Britta's Tacos_
1:30:39 - _Post Wendy Era - Beach Day/Gone Baby Gone_
1:32:23 - _Post Wendy Era - Sad Teen Hotline/Jannanigans_
1:33:34 - _Post Wendy Era - Mama Star/Read Aim Fire_
1:35:11 - _Post Wendy Era - The Right Way/Here to Help_
1:39:31 - _Post Wendy Era - Pizza Party/The Tavern At The End Of The Multiverse_
1:43:11 - _Post Wendy Era - Cleaved_
1:53:10 - Post Finale Disaster
1:58:19 - What Went Wrong
2:01:45 - The Potential
2:04:15 - _The Potential: 1. Toffee's Death_
2:05:03 - _The Potential: 2. Toffee's Backstory/motives_
2:05:49 - _The Potential: 3. Little to No Loose Ends_
2:07:23 - _The Potential: 4. Good Old Fashioned Montage_
2:08:01 - _The Potential: 5. Shipping_
2:08:44 - _The Potential: Shipping - Ending A. Jarco_
2:09:17 - _The Potential: Shipping - Ending B. Starco_
2:10:38 - Ending
*_Credits:_*
Antagonist 1 - TBlofeld
Shipping 1 - Matthew
Antagonist 2 - Tblofeld
- Moon section (More Soup)
- Edited by Matthew
Continuity 2
- Edited by Headband Guy
Characters 2 - Rainbow
- Tom section (Rainbow)
- Eclipsa/Globgor Section (Rainbow)
- Edited by Matthew
Shipping 2 - Helped by Matthew
- Star was a terrible girlfriend (World of Meli)
- Star selfish genocide (sloppyjeaux)
- Edited by Matthew
Post Wendy Era
- Edited by Headband Guy
The Potential
- Edited by Headband Guy
And I just want to give another megalodon thank you to Headband Guy (Blier) and Matthew for editing/adding the visuals to the large majority of this video.
Seriously, this video would not be releasing ANYWHERE near today if they had not helped out.
Matthew / Matthematical Reactions - th-cam.com/channels/NSbDnJWMqXvvRNDkRferyg.html
Blier / Headband Guy - th-cam.com/channels/fQ8B4dctpWacphUt6k3hyQ.html
*TBlofeld's Rewrite:* archiveofourown.org/works/19019023?view_full_work=true
*_Music:_*
Intro
- Mark Sparling - Day 10
Overarching Story 1
- Louie Zong - The Lost Library
- Potsu - Take me there
Antagonist / Toffee 1
- Brian H Kim - Toffee Vs Marco
- Louie Zong - Floating Fortress
Continuity 1
- Aimless - yours truly
- Louie Zong - The Town Library
Characters 1
- Pandrezz - Takin’ You For a Ride
- Louie Zong - The Jazz Club
Shipping 1
- Potsu + Land - breakfast
- Louie Zong - on the move
Title + Seasonal Story (2)
- Jinsang - Island
- Louie Zong - backpack heavy, mind light
- Louie Zong - half asleep
- Kudasai - dream of her
Antagonist 2
- Potsu - gogo
- Cloudchord - Sunlit
- Louie Zong - Orion
- Crinkles - chronos
Continuity 2
- Potsu - food court
- Ibrahim - Bullet Train Fantasy
- Potsu - have you heard
- Louie Zong - Florida
- Louie Zong - images
- Louie Zong - racing theme
- Louie Zong - struttin’
- Idealism - phosphenes
- Louie Zong - here he comes
- Louie Zong - Charlie brown’s day off
Characters 2
- Potsu - I’m in space
- Potsu - fall apart
- Louie Zong - curly
Shipping 2
- Brian H Kim - I Don’t Wanna Know
- Potsu - Turtleneck
- Louie Zong - steaks
- Louie Zong - comforter
- Crinkles - Gravity
- Potsu - lovesick
- Louie Zong - Allison
- Potsu - Moments Notice
- Louie Zong - Gretchen
- Crinkles - Hydrangea
- Mark Sparling - Mystery
Post Wendy Era
- 90s Flav - call me
- The Deli - Vibes
- Louie Zong - rain
- Leaf Beach - Keef
- The Deli - Flowers
- Potsu - bird
Post-Finale Disaster
- Aso - Ultra Violet
What Went Wrong
- Mark Sparling - Day 10
- Crinkles - Countess
The Potential
- Kudasai - the girl I haven’t met
- Louie Zong - ice pond
- Louie Zong - The Big Wave
- The Deli - Sleepy Vibes
- Louie Zong - Matter over Mind
- The Deli - Water
Ending
- Louie Zong - End of the Show
- Dunderpatrullen - Face Against The Gardin
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You put a lot of work into this, props dude
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Those credits are impressive, and I haven't even started the video yet. But it's amazing to see such a huge project come to fruition, and furthermore it'll be great to see you get back into the swing of things with all the fun stuff that's happened while you were busy with this! I'm so glad to see this, both for what it is and what it heralds. Just remember to not push yourself, if you need a break after this huge project then go for it. E>
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Star be like: 🤗 teehee I just committed mass murder against all dimensions 🤗
she really thanos snapped more than 50% of beings but she was just thinking "smoosh smush, bag guy no mo, got bf back"
This comment just made my day😂😂
She takes nothing serious, so when it comes to one of the more important parts of a story Character Development, it shows nothing. She has no guilt, and barely any punishments for her actions.
teenagers are dumb so that doesn't matter
@Klank Lol
The show went from promising to a 14 yo teenager fanfic. But hey, at least Tom was in it
I've seen better fanfics written by 12 year olds.... it's sad to see how much they wrecked this (do some adult writers just forget how writing actually works??)
@@crematedfelony ikr
too little too late
Tom is everything like??? Star literally never changes. She just got progressively more annoying because “I literally don’t know anything about this new culture so I’m sorry if I act dumb” hits way different than “I have been to earth, I have been to mewni, yet now I cheat on my boyfriend and potentially murder millions of magical creatures because it feels right”.
Edit: I forgot to add why I stan Tom sooo
Tom? He was willing to go through therapy, he was willing to go through his equivalent of electric shock therapy, and like at first it was for Star so yeah weak but then it was just for him and he won her back on accident???? This is the type of arc I love and he’s also like a nice anger demon in anger management??? That’s so simple yet so creative. And like he’s powerful but he never feels powerful because none of his battles are solved by fire. He is literally textbook good character writing!
You spoke the truth there
its genuinely hilarious to me that star and marco were literally based off nefcy and her husband and they ended up with the WORST writing, meanwhile tom is "based off all of nefcy's exes" and he got the most ACTUAL character development. how does that happen? how does a SPITE character you made end up better off than all your other characters?
@@ThisIsAshley41 exactly. goes to show in writing you shouldnt just *inject* your personal experiences into a characters existence and expect your viewers to completely agree with you, regardless of how much the audience becomes endeared to them. i doubt nefcy was trying to make tom "irredeemable" since he was obviously a chill guy by the end of the show, but its clear what her intentions with his role in the show was, and it was unimpressive to say the least :/
edit: apparently person above just kinda... assumed a bunch of things and was disgreeing with me bc of it. weird lmao
it's like how Chloé from Miraculous was from the writer's past bully and she got the best redemption arc and character in the entire show
Ok this is funny
Great-but-flawed = Perfect Candidate for a Reboot.
really says something about the person doesn't it
Imagine how simple the ‘cheekmark plothole’ could have been resolved if they just said: Festivia and Meteora were half sisters but Meteora was sent away because of being half monster while Festivia was kept because she was human
There. That simple, and it keeps the ‘magic cheekmarks’ are part of the Butterfly family and it will make Star an actual Butterfly but Meteora would still exist
Festivia/Celena is also related to Marco somehow, thus explaining his stupid cheekmark shit.
Exactly, do an Aquaman. Eclipsa had her firstborn (Meteora) with her true love, Globgor, then she's forced to marry and have an actual heir with the Mewman king.
Heck, they could have even made it so Festivia was like Eclipsa's niece or something, and was given the throne due to anti-monster bias. Either way, at least Star is still actually related to Eclipsa and that explains why she spent so much time helping her.
@@ndawn90 fr they couldve made festivia JUSHTIN'S daughter and eclipsa's niece therefore getting rid of the cheekmark plothole
@@eatatjoes6751 Marco's great grandfather was apart of the royal family and he somehow went to earth and got stuck there. Fixed.
I think that Star (and Moon) being an illegitimate monarch is an interesting enough idea if they actually did more with it than just making an excuse for Eclipsa to take the throne without a fight. It's still silly they figured to make Star descend from a peasant.
I hated how Star just commited genocide for the ending and no one bats an eye.
Hey but at least have Starco.
@@s4juno693 *cough*
Star was basically Hitler in the final
@@s4juno693 *cough cough*
wtf?! yeah I agree with you!
This shows biggest crime was to introduce the best, most attractive, most intelligent villain ever and completely shoot him in the foot.
Yes ;_;
Right?! I would have loved to see more and have that experience for a lot longer. He seemed like such a threat but after that, everything felt like a joke. He should have been an endgame villain instead of Mina.
i haven't finished KO yet so don't spoil me. but did venomous get better treatment?
*hand
It was the finger actually 😉
Toffee knowing about the Whispering Spell could have so easily been said to be because Eclipsa told him, since the two dated and all. It'd at least be more believable than Toffee having known it through a random book.
To think they creators actually expected us to believe that...the whispering spell is shown to be one of the most important spells in the series...and apparently it's just in some easy to find book
Dude ew no!
I don't know what the point of saying Toffee dated Eclipsa was to begin with unless it's just supposed to be some "lol Eclipsa chases around Monsters."
@@FantasticFawnleap Why are you saying ew to them? They just stating that this is cannon. No one likes it but it's written in the book the ties itself so deeply with the show.
well, i think the historian thing and the dating eclipsa thing could've been pulled off well if they actually explored toffee's past. he wasn't and average historian, he was a really, really active one. it would've been so easy for them to make it so he was just dating eclipsa to get butterfly information from her, since it's canon that he's despised mewmans for a long time.
it could've been like this: toffee, during his historian years (either before or after his days as a general) was getting frusterated because he had heard of a powerful spell that all queens taught their daughters, but he couldn't find any information on it because it was kept between the butterfly family. then, eclipsa comes along, and toffee has an idea. he can get the spell out of her. so they start dating, and he casually brings up that he's studying the butterfly family for his historian duties or something, and he could tell eclipsa that he's heard of a spell that all queens are taught by their mothers, and he casually laments about not knowing it and how it would bring him satisfaction to know, even if he wouldn't tell anyone. eclipsa is apprehensive with herself at first, but seeing as she really liked toffee (maybe it was her attempt at an actual serious relationship) she tells him the spell. after they break up, toffee already has all the information he needs.
i just made that all up in five minutes. the star team was working on season 3 and 4 the time that s2 was airing. it was such an easy fix, it boggles my mind.
Something I don’t think gets talked about enough is the fact that Marco thought that he seemingly spent 16 years away from his loved ones chasing after a demon girl and didn’t seem to be all that worked up about it. Apparently we’re to believe that he never once thought about the emotional trauma that for all he knew his sudden disappearance may have caused everyone.
И он променял отношения с этой девушкой , на какую то глупую принцессу , которая выдумала несуществующее проблемы
translation of my words:
And he exchanged his relationship with this girl for some stupid princess who invented a non-existent problem
The biggest impact was Hekapoo being in Marco's friend circle with him remembering le voice.
Lets not also forget that on Earth it equated to 16.2 minutes, I think. edit: nvm it was actuslly only 8 minutes💀
The thing that gets to me about this is that he could spend 16 years alone doing all that and was just fine with not seeing Star. But the finale, nah. They can't stand to be apart for even a little while. So much so that they risk their lives and millions of others so they can possibly be together.
this is why Gravity Falls rules all. It kept the story for the entire show and didn't stop at all for stupid forced shipping episodes.
Damn right. People were actually careful with it. It's a shame SVTFOE had so much more potential than it was given.
And it's also why Ducktales never tackles on shippings ever (aside from a one off gag of Dewey's dream love interest he has no interest on, but that's played for laughs).
Well no, the were a lot a problem in gravity fall
Mabel would get a new ship every two episodes though.
@@midnightgreengaming3188 but it didn't forget the plot entirely to focus on the ships
Also, as a sidenote, Star going up to Marco and saying, “Okay, can we kiss?” literal days after getting out of a nearly year long serious relationship was one of the most uncomfortable scenes in the show.
That whole scene was awkward! I was cringing the entire time. Who would want to hook up after poking/slapping pigs' butts? That isn't romantic and it was so forced. (cries)
Tomstar was shown to be a real serious relationship so suddenly starco moments were very off putting(
That's because you know nothing about love
DeathKitta
Honestly they just shouldn't have don't Starco and that point and just have no one in a relationship.
Well, it was still kinda cute, but not as good as it could be. The problem is the season 4 itself was made in rush, so they couldn’t manage to split up Tom and Star properly, which kinda ruined the long-awaited(for somebody) scene.
But I still love the show (without paying attention to the ending)
I like how Tom just T-Poses into the S3 Intro like an absolute legend.
He is based
Asserting his dominance as the one best character.
I never understood how Marco in the first few episodes of the show can beat up and hurt otherworldly monsters with no recoil while he breaks his arm on 3 wooden boards
LMAO
Welcome to cartoon world
Monsters are very squishy
Yeah that always gets me. Yes it's a cartoon, but give at least a simple reasonable explanation. Like I don't, magic.
Daron based Tom off of all of her ex boyfriends. Yet he ends up being one of the most likable characters in the show...😅
Yeah wouldn't have expected that 😅
@@liveslex5581 Eren deadass said he hated her bro. And even if he didn't really mean it he's gonna die soon anyway. I HIGHLY doubt they will be together at the end of season 4.
@@liveslex5581 But they didn't create aot though. Hajime Isayama did. He's the author what he says goes
Maybe she was the Problem😉
Must've had some pretty awesome exes
Once toffee died, the show started getting worse.
Coincidence?
I think NOT.
One of the things that did get better during the later seasons was Tom's development, and even that was started in season 2
I hate to admit it. Although Eclipsa is a great character, ever since her inclusion I think the writing quality such as characters began to decline. Excluding Heinous, the writing of so many characters suffered. Especially the MHC and Moon Butterfly.
I think it got bad when battle for mewni ended
I didn't think Toffee was that great to be honest. I thought he was boring and nothing really came of him. He was hardly a character at all.
They never give a fuck about Toffee as a character, nothing about him was even explained. When you think about it, the show never had any real antagonist.
Star:”everybody breaks up! That’s what teenagers do! Teenagers are dumb!”
Me: according to that logic Marco and star won’t last a week.
Also she just admitted that she's stupid
I give them 11 minutes
@@QuiGonJohn1999 11? I’d be shocked if they make it 2
@@rando9449 make it 6 milliseconds
7 seconds.
i saw a comment on a different video about svtfoe that said “the thing is: the blood moon didn’t even have to be romantic. just soul bonded. best friends for life. the end” and it honestly makes the most sense. it didn’t have to be romantic, it really didn’t.
That would've been WAY better!
The blood moon thing should have been metaphorical in the first place, but even if it "did" something, then the blood moon should have only been an external force that indirectly made actions/events that strengthened the bond between Marco and Star (and the curse should have been solved way earlier)
@HipomosJ this whole Blood Moon situation showed that Marco and Jackie were the ones who were actually meant to be together. Because Marco and Star were done by magic, and Marco already had feelings for Jackie, who ended up returning those feelings. But the blood moon curse got in the way. It also made any Starco moments non-consensual because they didn't willingly get those feelings.
Don’t forget, Star forgot to greet Marco happy birthday during lava lake because she was busy smooching Tom.
Catalyst _
Omg yes thank you. And the fact that Marco went to such great lengths to create an amazing birthday for her - and she was so ungrateful for it.
I honestly don’t know how Marco or Tom were able to put up with her rudeness in the first place.
@@artisticstuff3764Even if Marco's Character went down hill he still had his moments and his character regression was caused by the blood moon mainly will his character wasn't the best towards the end he was a better character than Star in my opinion
Dont forget she also never apologized once for the kiss situation with Marco to Tom, not even for not telling him either.
@@jlwiseman98 VERY true. And she had the audacity to get mad cause HE knew about it and didnt tell her. Marco is a true bro for telling him that too. She had no right to pull that shit. In all honesty Tom dodged a bullet when he broke up with Star. Sure he was controlling and had anger issues in the beginning but he became a better person in the end. Star was actually very abusive herself (you can see it with marco) and just overall not as good a person the show makes her out to be.
@@abnormalnox though I also noticed neither Marco or Star ever gave Tom an apology for the situation.
Marco tells him, he never apologizes onscreen though.
Like it really bothers me we had to watch Tom get treated like garbage for so long by Star, and neither character gives him a single apology for it, as if they aren't sorry or did nothing wrong.
Like it REALLY bothers me, cause Tom says sorry all the time when he screws up, but nah he got no apology for all the bad stuff they do to him.
Wth
Star is a terrible girlfriend. Poor tom.
In the end, Tom and Star's relationship ended up being a good thing for them (though I still contest that it was drawn out for far too long - they had plateaued for a long time). They didn't lose a romantic partner; they gained a friend. Friendship is the most important thing for me, and it's something the show sought to emphasize, particularly in Season 4.Yes, I'll agree Star treated Tom unjustly sometimes, but it never came of as true spite.
@@robkuro8564 No, i dont think she did it on purpose which arguably is worse. Star by the end of the series had selfish qualities and trigger tendencies that was never resolved and was even rewarded. She has her good moments but especially in relationships, she seems to be only invested if it currently alligns with what she's focused on. That means she's not a bad girlfriend due to active intentions, but she's a bad girlfriend due to character flaws she isn't all that aware of. And when someone doesn't know or doesn't understand how they're in the wrong about anything they cause more damage. Not about relationship drama-but during stars song day she reveals to the entire kingdom that she lost her book of spells to ludo because..."she couldn't write some puff piece"?...Like the good and comfort of the kingdom is less important than her public image being dishonest in her eyes. The show portrays it as her being good for being honest but I found it on par with a divorced couple telling their children its because one of them cheated. I mean her heing reckless is a staple of her character but I feel like her character quirks become serious character flaws when the show doesn't adress them all that much.
I agree. I was especially thrown off by the part where Star got mad at Tom for not telling her he knew about her kiss with Marco. I found it rather hypocritical and instead of apologizing, she puts the blame on Tom and, for lack of a better term, plays the victim. There's nothing wrong with having characters make mistakes like that as long as it's resolved in the end, but I never felt like it was. I guess I just had higher hopes for her chatacter development
Yeah her and Marco will last maybe a month if they can avoid the angry humans who’s lives they uprooted
Why?
It really was shocking to me just how indifferent the characters became to death, especially at the end. Star being like "lol I guess we'll never know!" when she's asked what happened to the Magical High Commission after magic is destroyed left a bad taste in my mouth.
facts like what happened to hekapoo
We didn't even see her after the magic was destroyed
And I am sad that Rhombulus was character assassinated (since from the beginning he showed regret for his crime and potentially get a redemption arc)
@@thunder-uy5zz Yeah since she's a fan favorite waifu unlike the other two. We don't see her just being a candle or whatever since she was written as actually sympathetic.
Ever stopped to think the people wich visit the arcade dimension will probably die from starvation after being stuck there for all eternity?
The final episode of Gravity Falls leaves little to no loose ends while leaving the rest of it to the imagination in a good way and it kind of leaves you wanting more in a good way. The ending of Star Vs the Forces of Evil and by extension the entire show has loose ends and plot holes and it leaves the rest to the imagination and it leaves you wanting more in a bad way at least in my opinion.
thanks man it means a lot I really appreciate it Blue Order
I'd love to see a Gravity Falls Reunion Special, Movie or Sequel/Prequel Series. Star vs the forces of evil on the other hand, unless most of Season 4 was retconed I could care less if it came back.
I agree same goes to Amphibia like gravity falls it leaves little to no loose ends and leaving the rest of it to the imagination except we didn’t see what happened on the other side of the portal but I guess Marcy’s journal will fill in the gap later
My reaction to GF ending:man,it's just so sad it's ended.Goodbye,Gravity Falls.I'll miss you and remember you.You did everything perfectly.
My reaction to SVTFOE ending:
WHAT?!WHAT THE HELL?!GO FUCK!
@@jturner2577
i think star vs the forces of evil is a perfect example of why it's best we didn't get that season 3 of gravity falls
Because that was Alex Hirsch's own decision
yUP
@•• At least smaerter than Nefcy Darron (Darren? I can't write her name), Noelle Stevenson (Shera reboot) and the creator of Steven Universe (forget her first name) but together.
@@NothingOfNoteToSeeHere Are you for real? Those 3 have created the most acclaimed shows of the decade, and fought for telling the stories they wanted to tell consistenly admist censors and the biggest companies obstacles, creating actual change in animation storytelling.
@@nightnaughty Sure, but that doesn't mean their shows aren't flawless. Same goes for Hirsch.
When they killed off Toffee the show died.
fake fan
Dark Spyro not true, the show drastically declined in quality once the best villain in the show died
If you think they are a fake fan due to him saying the show gets worse, then maybe you’re the fake fan, since you will not let other people have opinions, thinking that your opinion of the show is perfect, meaning you are a horrible, and possibly fake, fan.
i disagree. the series manage to actually remain strong without him
No, when they slowly shrank the cast to accomodate the growing tumor of ship and Moon/Mina became the villains instead of Toffee or Eclipsa...or Globgor...or *SOLARIA.*
Same here when I seen Toffee got resurrected and then gets killed minutes later is when I was done with the show
I think it’s actually pretty crazy how fucking huge this show and fandom was before it ended.. but now nobody talks about it. I think the way the show ended completely killed the fandom and mostly everyone including me doesn’t really wanna think about it
Kinda like Game of Thrones.
@@ChiefMedicPururu I actually was also thinking of game of thrones when I wrote this but I personally never watched it so I couldn’t say lol
@@jazzy9983 Let's just say Season 8 killed everything. Even the actors look disappointed.
@@ChiefMedicPururu would you say game of thrones is worth the watch bad ending aside? Like is it enjoyable to sit through ig?
@TheGlassesPro Oof.
Kudos for adding COMPLETE FULL SUBTITLES. Very few channels does this.
*do
He even gave the subtitles so much personality
Yea- a lotta people make their captions overly jokey so its nice to see captions that're both accurate and have a bit of charm
Daron: " teens are dumb so it's ok for them to act that way!"
Tom: *is a teenager who grows and learns from his mistakes, constantly apologizes, and improves for him and the people he cares about and is arguably the best character in the show*
The show didn't excuse Tom's bad actions because "hes a dumb teenager ", he had growth and learned and became so mature and selfless.
What's Star and Marco's excuse for treating everyone like garbage and not learning to be better?
"Because they are protagonists". Lazy writing treats them as being always right
You know for a character based on the creator's whole bunch of ex-boyfriends, he's literally the most caring and self-improving character of the show, big yikes.
@@KaisaWitchFromHilda my favorite part was when eclipsa hit them with that beam. Marco am i rediculous? I am rediculous and have bad taste in friends.
Daron Nefcy, did you take stupid pills this morning when you said that? Your Star Fan 13 character totally feels betrayed by Cleaved. November 12, 2019, 10:54pm
Heck, it's ironic how a literal DEMON became the most well-developed and most improved characters while the humans became nothing but degenerates!
Destroying magic isn’t going to solve anything. Especially if Mina is still out there. Imagine she discovers guns.
...not to mention this show literally goes into full detail of how brutal violence towards the monsters in the book, it's literally an essential part of the show's lore. who's to say human's won't try the same shit? but that doesn't matter because ˜”*°•.˜”*°• s t a r c o •°*”˜.•°*”˜
aesthedicks 😂 😂😂😂
aesthedicks Not to mention that the human on Earth would actually have a REASON to have problems with Monsters and the other creatures due to the general chaos of the world merge and how these creatures suddenly appearing would displace many people from their homes. And that’s not accounting for the possibility that they think this was an attack, overall the societal problems on Mewni will probably only get WORSE due to the events of the finale.
That's the irony of if, they make it feel like if you just remove magic that will solve all their problems, when it reality it only temporarily solves the solution since there are other ways mina can hurt the monsters.
So they had star cause mass genocide, destroy a source of power for multiple dimensions, separate families and friends forever and do god knows how much more damage....to solve a problem that can easily come back in an entirely different way.
No one properly thought this idea out, because the solution of destroying magic kinda seems like it caused more damage then it just would've to have the four queens attack mina themselves and heal everyone through other means.
She most likely died in the woods
i’ve watched this video multiple times, and my jaw *still* drops every time at the part saying the crew were writing a serialized story-driven show as they went along
im sure that can be done well or at least good it just takes time and good ideas
It works for Ninjago.
It explains way too much
This show promised a story about a magical princess from another dimension & once you reach the finale the f girl isn't a princess, nor magical & not even from another dimension cuz they just randomly fuse so she can get into the most forced & uncomfortable relationship ever 😭 I'm so disappointed.
That's the worst part to me. The whole premise and appeal of your show (especially upon rewatch) is just gone now because you took the easy way out.
Yeah, true. They killed the freakin' PREMISE!
Yeah that's why I didn't like star not being royal because it kinda defeats the purpose of why she's there. To learn responsibility and mature so she can take the throne when time comes... But nope..
I think that's something that angers me a lot about the ending and how the show progressed was that I loved the magic aspect of the show and how star was a princess and her family history and then the throne was given back to eclipsa even though she didn't seem to care that much or take it all that seriously and then star destroys the magic.
And like someone else said it kind of defeats the premise of star going to Earth and learning how to be more mature and responsible because she's going to be the future Queen.
And also that I feel like it would have been a better direction that star moon and River continue to rule the Kingdom and eclipsa is like a duchess or some higher up title and tries to help with monster and human relationships and it would probably help that star moon and River the royals they are familiar with are still in charge and are trying to push this change.
I just can't get over how they turned Glossaryck, one of the best characters and the most powerful magic user of all time into a fucking dog
🤣
Oh fudge yea.
Worst part is they didn't even have a good reason to do that, they just did it because why not.
"Warning them about Globgor" was a really poor excuse to justify that :/
@@phantomgamer3898 ikr, saying "globgor, globgor, globgor" every 5 minutes doesnt help, he could just have told then about globgor
@@phantomgamer3898 Jeffery Tambor his voice actor was accused of sexual harassment and that’s the reason why they had him say that. So that wasn’t really their fault
By the end of the series the best ship was tom and marco
Facts
true
oh absolutely
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Dis man spitting straight facts.
Marco being a twist villain would have been great. It would make a cool connection with the bat wing/skull design for "Evil" in the title and his wand design. Also his connection with Toffee. If there was a family link between Celena and Marco (or any kind of connection, I dunno) it would explain the crescent moon. Maybe Celena leaked information to the serpentines because she knew the danger of magic abuse and the risk of monsters dying out. Or Marco could have been a Mewnan who had his memories erased by the High Commission and placed into a human family to keep him out of Mewni. That would be hard to explain with his whole family, though.
One thing I wished was added to the cheek mark/magic exposure thing was that only Mewnans get cheek marks from magic exposure, or if they have a direct link to magic like a wand. If Marco were a Mewnan or a confirmed relative to the true royal Butterfly line (like a relative to Eclipsa), the cheek marks would make sense. It would explain why Jannan and Tom don't get any because they're a human and a monster.
Marco and Star as friends would have been a much more stable route for the series. And a big fight between a twist villain Marco and Star would be heart-wrenching, seeing two friends who grew together fight over opposing beliefs. Which one is right? Star, who wants to preserve magic and save the monsters, or Marco, who wants magic gone to keep the realms safe and also save monsters from an oppressive society.
I almost wish we could get a remake.
Eh on Marco.
We need Star vs The Forces of Evil: Brotherhood
That's what I'm saying!! REBOOT SVTFOE
Or, considering how quickly Star was convinced to scapegoat magic itself for problems actually caused by people: Star could be written as the one who wants to destroy magic, having decided that magic itself is ultimately a net negative on her life because blaming magic is easier than dealing with all the problems magic has been involved with. Star then has to eventually face that this stance was her mentally taking the easy way out from dealing with the more complicated reality of her problems: not magic itself, but the people who've chosen to abuse it.
Consider a full-show rewrite using the ideas they centered their plots around and mishandled. Maybe the entire overarching plot could center around an (initially) more straightforward end-of-season-two twist that the Magic High Comission are actually a villainous force, trying to keep magic in the hands of only the people they favor (maintaining the class/racism caste system). Marco and Star somehow find out some way that the ability to use magic can actually be spread, because it has been spread to Marco, and after the big twist with the MHC, where they fully realize the power abuses committed by these authority figures Star grew up knowing as family, the two decide to spread magic to people that don't have it, starting with monsters. The MHC are hesitant to outright label Moon's daughter an enemy publicly despite these actions undermining and destabilizing Mewni's hierarchy, escalating to a point of outright battles against the MHC when they try to stop Star and Marco, and so publicly label Marco a force of evil to the kingdom and the one leading Star astray, kind of paralleling how he becomes the face of the rebellion at St. Olga's (and maybe that earlier plot could be slightly reworked into foreshadowing). Maybe he and Star work together until someone they introduced magic to goes wrong, and she sees this incident as proof the whole idea is bad and backs out, coming to believe that magic itself must be destroyed since the Magic High Comission is bad but Marco is also wrong to continue their old idea of sharing magic. Boom! Three-way conflict.
Heck, maybe Toffee and Ludo could join Star's and Marco's sides respectively. Maybe Toffee shows up when Star's at her most unsure of what is right, away from Marco and the MHC, and whispers right in her ear about the terrible effect magic has had on everything she loves.
Has there ever been a show where someone is evil but they don't know it until the climax?
Just imagine if the used the bloodmoon to prove star and marco did in fact NOT have romantic feelings, making the finale all anout the power of platonic feelings which is a theme that represents the first seasons quite well imo
Don't you need at least 120 hp before a bloodmoon can take place? I'm pretty sure they didn't get any life crystals. Also, didn't realise svtfoe took place in terraria.
@@wormyworms2774PFF ILY
If the creator made Tom after her Ex’s does that mean her Ex’s were good and she was the neglectful one?
Jack sparrow thats what i was thinking tbh
Well, Star is based on her at the end (while Marco on her husband, by the way), so probably.
To be honest, tho, Tom _was_ a "demon ex-boyfriend" at the beginning.
@@InazumaSensei i think this whole tom is based on her exboyfriends thing is mostly daron using toms character development as wish fullfillment of her wanting to see them change and maybe thats the real reason why daron even with the whole exboyfriend thing wanted to make tom change and become a better person because maybe deep down daron wishes her exs changed for her and would explain the line that tom says about how star inspires her but thats just my opinion
It get's even worse. Star and Marco's relationship was supposed to mirror her current relationship. I wonder how her husband felt... watching Nefcy's stand-in stay in a good relationship with her ex's stand-in for so long. "Er... honey? Why is Star still with Tom? Why are you having Marco and Kelly be in a casual relationship? Is there something I need to know?"
Toffee’s back was hurting from carrying the show, that’s why Daron decided to kill him off
Now that I think about it he doesn’t really have much screentime in the show, yet he’s one of the best characters
TKO's back is hurting from carrying OK K.O too, but Ian don't killed him off
@@petscopkid Yeah his lack of screentime enhances his presence and is makes him so threatening
Toffee was too seggsy and the writers couldn’t handle it🙄✋‼️
It isnt cruelty, its mercy
This show (next to voltron: LD, ugh) should be a poster child for why its important to have a established beginning, middle, and end instead of writing as you go. I really cant think of a non episodic show that worked despite not being planned out.
Other than that, i unfortunately think that its best for the writers to not interact/ be involved with the fandoms they create until the show's actually over (especially when you're writing AS YOU GO). Because, whether they want to or not, they reshape the story to fit what the audience wants (or what they're responding to) and this ends up leaving everyone unsatisfied
I don't think being completely silent is the best way to go, but a middle ground of connection with the fans without being influenced by them is more ideal
Or at the very least have some idea of how you want the story to go. Like Gravity Falls made things up as it went along, but it also had a concrete goal (Revealing the Author of the Journals) and a vague goal of an apocalyptic event for the ending of the series.
Never liked the bitch but Jk Rowling was right to plan the whole Harry Potter series out before writing it.
The only show that made a largely unplanned story work into amazing things eventually is Adventure time and thats because they had 10 seasons to weave the web
i will never forget how heartbroken 13 year old me was when this series ended the way it did. i’ll admit, part of that was bc i shipped TomStar, and it upset me that they weren’t endgame. it wasn’t that entirely though. even 13yo me could discern the ending was ass beyond the horrible ship development. it felt so rushed, and it ended with me hating every character except like, tom and kelly. this entire series is what made me swear off love triangles forever. i hate it bc if it was done right i would be able to look back on this show with fondness and nostalgia. instead, i haven’t watched a SINGLE episode of svtfoe EVER AGAIN since that fateful day in may 2019. i wish i never watched it.
I know how you feel 😢
omg totally!! i LOVED svtfoe, it was one of my comfort shows side by side with SU and AT but after the finale I never ever watched anything related to that again, it just ruined everything
It’s not all bad. For one, you’ve got a couple of ways to discern bad fiction from good before you get invested next time. I stopped Star Vs at s2’s finale cuz of the warning signs that just got worse as the series progressed. But now that you’re aware of the signs, you can save time next time you try something new!
Also, you’ve got a big group of ppl who hate the show as much as you do. So you’re not alone!
Moral of the story: always consider your priorities when making a show. Don’t change shit on a whim just to accommodate a ship and throw out everything your story built up to.
the real moral of this story is dont make love triangles in plot driven shows
Or plan out your show so you can work in and resolve all this romance drama without it feeling rushed or forced.
The show started out strightforward then got convoluted.
@@carlacarrero4975 the moral is just don't make love pendagons. Cause that my friend was far from just a triangle
Things I always keep in mind and disasters like SVTFOE only confirm I’m doing it right with my story👍
Also, jokes on you, my show doesn’t even have ships ;)
This video has better continuity than the series;
You can see the light in the window behind him go from day to night.
Mad lad talked about a cartoon the whole day.
Wow i didnt even notice that haha
Props to the man absolute madlad
sonicpivot2476 and the ending of it could have been with that song “ready as Ill ever be” - the svtfoe version. That would have been so epic
this is the sheer definition of chad
Cari Create omg that would actually be really cool
Fun fact, over 7 hours of recorded footage for this video
I have NEVER seen a character and their story CARRY as hard as Eclipsa did. She is the ONLY thing that made season 4 bearable. She was AMAZING, but even she couldn't completely bring it back.
Nope but man did she do her best.
And Tim. Eclipsa and Tom hardcore carried.
They really pulled a Game of Thrones, LMFAO
Eclipsa pretty much hijacked the series. It was her show, her villains, her country, her plot. Star was just there from already being there.
@@francesca-selfproclaimed-bleepboth finales came out on the same day. That day was cursed, I guess.
The fact that I didn’t even realise moon was a twist villain shows how badly it was done.
Let’s be honest. Killing off Toffee so quick was one of the worst decisions in any Disney show. He truly was my favorite Disney villain, rivaling others like Bill Cipher.
At the time toffee was defeated, I didn't mind it at all because I thought the show was hinting that he would come back. Also since it seemed too easy to beat him so swiftly. After finishing the show, I can also say that it was a horrible decision to get rid of him that way
I was expecting him to be just like Bill. A villain who continues to have a strong influence for the whole show with explored ties to the lore.
When I took a break from SVTFOE, I got hyped for the finale and expected Toffee to be back. My friend told me the villain is Mina so I didn't even f*cking watch it
Killing him off was fine. Not bringing him back after getting hints that he would return was where they dropped the ball. That's writing 101 right there. If you're setting up expectations, you have to deliver on them and Nefcy just didn't do that here.
they could have at least gave Toffee an epic showdown between him and Star
Still love how most ships of this show is just Marco x anybody in existence
Marco x Lebron James
Marco x ocraM
Heck, as a joke you could ship Marco and Lincoln Loud together.
Marco x Naysaya
Marco x hoodie
One thing I don’t get is that he fact that Star is shown to be as powerful as Eclipsa was when Eclipsa was Star’s age, and we know that that means Star is INCREDIBLY powerful as Eclipsa wrote most of her chapter at Star’s age. But then we see that Star consistently struggles against enemies like Ludo. But THEN it makes it seem that Star is actually STRONGER than Eclipsa as she masters wandless magic in a few years, something Eclipsa COULD NOT DO. And THEN they show that meteora is even stronger than Star, since she’s able to dip down as a baby. But meteora couldn’t be used to defeat ANY of the Solarian warriors? It makes no sense and it feels like they just refused to look at any other possibilities besides ‘magic must go’ when they wrote the ending.
I mean she is a babuu. The real question is what stopped them from using a combo of magic scissors and ultra mega dark magic blasts to kill the Solarians.
@@galten7361no no, don’t waste your time thinking of another ending that makes sense. We needed something more “climactic”, forget logic!
@@xempororhxppyxseriously though I'm pretty sure they went with the magic getting destroyed ending just because it would be more shocking.
@@Office_chair Agreed. they needed something “climatic” and shocking, so they pulled that out of nowhere
I think a major problem is that they started the show with the idea of character driven story, and they brought up all these really interesting elements, but they didn't have a plan for any of it so it just fell into chaos with them scrambling back and forth between being character driven and world driven. But in doing so they completely lost track of where the plot was and where the character arcs were meant to go. I was all for some shippy, relationship stuff, all for Starco so long as there was a fulfilling and gradual move towards it, but again, it was like they couldn't decide how to do that and so it went from a beautiful and natural relationship, to incredibly forced.
I wanna add that I loved the blood moon...initially. It was so cool and interesting when it was introduced, but for something that had such implied weight, they just ignored it. As well as the art in that room in the first season, I remember waiting for so long for that room in St. Olgas (pretty sure it was there, its been years) to have SOME meaning, and it just never did. I can't decide whether they kept having new ideas as to where to take the show and just couldn't decide, or if they just put as much random shit in as possible to make anything they did later seem planned. I'm mostly just mad at what the show could have been. It started so charming and lovely and then I couldn't even watch the last season cause I was so fed up with things just being ignored.
@@Kuhboose1 I still enjoyed the last season because of Eclipsa, Tom and the whole Globgor mystery
@@Kuhboose1 I was so hooked on the St. Olga's plot too and expected them to foreshadow that Saint Olga was either their equivalent of a nun or a princess but then they revealed out of goddamn nowhere that she was a robot and like, "Why?"
In regards to the show staff... *cue the gif of Spongebob's mind in chaos*
"the writers had managed to piss off every single group except starco"
that's not true. I really want starco to happen, but with this kind of pacing and halfass relationship they do makes me feels NOTHING. I'm so upset about it even now
Even a shipping war fan comic managed to be better than the actual show its based on
Fellow upset starco here
So actually, the writers had managed to piss off EVERYONE, _except_ the Starco fans that _only_ care about Starco and nothing else. You know, the ones that don't even mind or care about the story so long Starco is canon, because Starco is Jesus or something.
I'm an atheist.
I'm a starco shipper too, and boy was I blinded by my modern reaction to the confirmation. They could have done it so better if they want it to be Canon. Make it feel satisfying and impactful after 4 years of the teasing, but instead of doing that they killed of Tomstar out of nowhere and two episodes later make starco Canon. Why didn't they just make a proper build up and timing. I understand that they were lucky for having a fourth season and knew it was the last but that's not an excuse to say " Screw it, let's rush the plot, sacrifice a few ships that had build up, and make it about racism and starco fan service up until the finale where we made a concept that had no build up throughout the show about destroying magic and make a 'sweet and happy' starco ending. This show could've done better even with 4 seasons yet they still fucked it up. Thanks Daron for making a bad writing to an already good show.
That's also not true. I shipped Starco at the beginning when they weren't insufferable weenies, but then as the show dragged on into the third season and yanked shit out of its ass with The -Plot Device- Blood Moon and turned Marco into an obsessive penis over Star and Star into a possessively abusive bitch that shrank the cast and kills plot development to accomodate her own *wuv* for him, I was freaking done and shipped Kellco.
I blame Starco. It's ruined bothering Star's and Marco's character and it's ruined the series
Welcome to the I blame starco club 😁 also theres an anti Star vs mixtape on 8tracks called svtfoe salt that perfectly describes what a hot mess this finale was
This is why Jarco should've remained canon
Starco was also extremely rushed
I totally agree with you, star was shown to be a pretty neglectful girlfriend that was bad in relationships, so her ending things with Tom but a few episodes later she is suddenly the perfect girlfriend to marco?
Totally agreed on that. And it's totally noticeable by the near end of the season, specifically when Star and Tom broke up. After seeing that episode I thought of "what is going on with the staff and what happened to the writing?" It went downhill REAL fast. After that episode the rest felt rushed. But thats from my perspective at least.
Tom was single handily my favorite character in svtfoe and it hurt to see the way star treated him especially in the final episodes
What fascinates me is that Eclipsa dated the guy that actually KILLED HER MOTHER. If they had picked that up in the series there could have possibly been a way that we wouldn’t have to sacrifice the Eclipsa arc for the sake of a good ending and Seth could’ve still showed up and be the actual endgame boss. So much wasted potential it hurts.
This show was one of the worst cases of "he was a boy, she was a girl, can I make it any more obvious?"
That's the perfect analogy.
@@Mehhhhhhhh he was pretty cool and she was a jerk , what more can i say?
Ironic, Daron also made it into a 'progressive' series.
Violet Virus yes
avril fits anywhere i see
They really pushed Starco, like they feel more like siblings. I really only think they made them a thing because it’s a boy character and a girl character.
I was fine with the thought of them getting together before
A) I realized what the blood moon thing did.
B) before season 3
I was also fine with the being sibling-figures to one another (as it’s hard to find when you have two non-related male and female protagonists). I want shows that can show how deep the bonds between two people like that can go without them having to be romantically involved (in fine if they are, just so long as it’s set up well).
I agree, and it felt like there was a lot of pressure on the ship, like the whole series revolving around it in the end. I wish that they’d eased us into it instead of just throwing Star and Marco together a day after TomStar died, and then Earth and Mewni being cleaved together because of their love or whatever. It’s sad how far this show fell from Grace.
@@moonbreeze4276 pleasing the fandom made it worse
@@gracekim25 Yeah, the fact that Daron was writing in favour of the majority of the fandom was clearly a mistake. I think that she forgot that it was her own show and her own story, not everybody else’s. It became so much less of her own story that she (and the rest of her team) actually started taking sides of ships instead of thinking logically. For example, they all loved Starco and were obviously doing their hardest to make it happen, but because of this they just sort of pushed away everything in the way (Kellco, TomStar...) just to make it happen, which wasn’t fair to others. It wasn’t fair to those characters, either.
I hope that this made sense lol. Also, that offscreen breakup really triggered me, even though I wasn’t even for Kellco.
@@theonlyethanhiroshiki There's only Season 3.
Here after Amphibia finale.
A funny show about a talking frogs managed to give us more epic journey, greater characters, memorable villains and a gut-wrenching emotional ending than SvtFoE.
Think on that.
And one of the things fans had a problem with was clarified both on Twitter and in Marcy's Journal.
OK KO Let's be heroes was cancelled early, and had a good ending, and I'm willing to bet The Owl House will end, at least, on a good enough note, and that one got cancelled early too.
@@SantiHRod what does that have to do with Star's atrocious ending?
@@OverLorD768 Showing that the so called "early cancelation" excuse isn't valid, Star vs the Forces of Evil ended awfully, and the creators can't decide wether to say they were cut short, cause some other shows ended early but had good narrative and endings, or to say it ended how it was planned, cause it would make them look incompetent despite being given all the tools necessary for making a good show.
If someday it turns out to be that they were cut short, that excuse isn't valid, it wasn't valid back then, wouldn't be valid today, and will never be valid anymore, unless they were cancelled just after the ending of the current airing season, like Final Space or Infinity Train.
@@SantiHRod again, what does that have to do with anything? Neither Star nor Amphibia were cancelled or ended early. Matt knew Season 3 was his last, Daron knew Season 4 was her last. It's not about "ended early", it's about Daron Nefcy not being able to write anything other than shipping wars.
Unrelated but the early animation for Star VS The Forces of Evil looks so much better, turns out this is because the first season was made by Mercury Filmworks, animators of Hilda, Kid Cosmic, Mickey Mouse shorts, Centaurworld and The Ghost & Molly McGee.
HILDA? CENTAURWORKD? TGAMM? no wonder there was smooth animation
Ive been thinking and saying this for years man. Back when I used to interact with the fandom I used to get flack from some people for even suggesting the animation got worse over time. Season 1 has some of my favorite animation of any show Ive ever seen. The expressions and character acting were top notch and the fight choreography was insane. the downgrade in animation is one of my biggest gripes with this show for sure. Sugar Cube's episodes in particular look awful
I did the maths. Those 7 seconds Marco was getting over Jackie is equialent to a little over 85 days in the Neverzone, which is almost 3 months.
So he wasn't lying.
Aw, rats! Why would Marco think in Neverzone time when he was on Earth? Or did he already get over Jackie when he was in the Neverzone? I don't know! February 9, 2020, 3:41pm
Wouldn't that be nice if the show implied that was the reason it was over so quick. But, I forget, the writing staff doesn't believe in continuity. My bad.
T. Thomas oof
How many time you exchanged to do this!?
HAHA
Honestly, Tom was the best and most realistic character in the show. He was the only character that showed any development throughout the entire 4 seasons.
Too true
I'd say eclipsa fits into that but to a slightly lesser extent
@@coldgal8476 She does but she only psychially appears in 2 Seasons.
J Turner yeah I know that's why I said lesser
He's great.
But it could've been done better. They could've redeemed him earlier and make him much more helpful since like, season 2.
I have a belief that Beach Day should be the final episode of stvfoe. Its the perfect tone mix of every season, including season one, while perfectly concuding everything with an "and there were many adventures to come". Right before it, Eclipsa becomes queen with the a-ok of the people rapping up that whole leaving beach day as a sort of epilogue.
Star and Marco ARE the Forces of Evil!
I mean, could you imagine a male and female lead that don’t have a forced romantic subplot? I want to see that... JUST ONCE!
Joshua Christensen does Gravity Falls with Dipper and Wendy count? I’m not sure
Unicorn Bunny - I mean it was a drama plot point though in Harry Potter so that doesn’t really count
*GRAVITY FALLS INTENSIFIES*
@@Sugaprincess2500 No since their age difference is too big for them hooking up to ever be a thing.
You forget that The Mouse produced this show 😂
But in principle I agree with you
Honestly after the finale I HATE Moon, she became completely unlikable and the death of Hekapoo was terrible, not to mention how awful Stars decision was.
The mass genocide of the magical creatures No one seems to notice?
I mean, destroying fucking magic was intense and I kinda liked it, but hekapoo... Just fucking accepted to die like that? It didn't even show her dying in a emotional moment of her saying goodbye,it didn' even show her remenents.
Yes, Star is a disgusting mass murderer and Moon is garbage!
And Marco is an arrogant prick. Ludo, Tom, Eclipsa and Janna are the only characters who are likeable
Star IS the Forces of Evil.
Well, you live long enough and you become the villain.
You know the show is going downhill when the fandom's catchphrase is "I guess Nefcy just forgot"
Starco should’ve just been platonic. Kellco/Jarco and Tomstar were so great, and should’ve stayed as canon.
The writers were THAT thirsty for Starco that they legit fucked up the story.
Markapoo .... F
Probably would’ve pissed off too many people
"people who make reaction videos don't put efort into anything"
me, an intelectual:
Exactly I hate when ppl say that
Yeah, that's honestly an unfair statement. The FlamingShark for instance is easily one of my favorite creators to watch, ESPECIALLY his Adventure Time videos, it's rare to see someone have such a thorough understanding of a show and it's key elements and progression. I feel like certain reactors are as solace and devoid of substance or care as people make them out to be, but not all of them are like that.
Dude I could turn this video in as my final's, this is a fullborn essay
Except...this isn't a reaction. It's a review. He didn't just sit and watch the show for two hours in this video, he did that beforehand and that pushed him to make this review. The review is what had actual effort put into it. Anyone can sit down and react to a video. Sorry to burst your "intelectual" bubble. Also, like sai said...you spelled that wrong.
Slash have you seen how much he edits his reactions? He puts effort into them and try’s to add to them. I’d say blue order’s reactions are like 1/2 reaction 1/2 ytp
I feel like Tom became the only likable character at the end of the show.
And Eclipsa's family. Tbh I only watched till the end for them.
Pretty much
@@luvithdrevis yeah I loved Eclipsa and Globgor
And Janna
Everyone but the main characters lol
About the book, Gravity Falls did something similar. There's a physical book you can buy that's basically the Third Journal that was used heavily in the show. The book had pages that were identical to the ones shown in the show, and also added on to the characters, story, lore, and worldbuilding tenfold. And it's just as funny, charming, educational, and touching as the show itself was.
However, unlike SVTFOE, you didn't need the book to enjoy the show. I'd already watched Gravity Falls through multiple times before I even realized the book existed. Reading the book made the overall experience better by introducing things and building off of things you didn't get in the show, but you didn't need it. The show gave you everything you needed to both love the characters, and to understand the story it was trying to tell. It was optional, and a great purchase imo if you wanted more. It didn't borderline punish you for being in the dark if you didn't have it, and didn't leave you feeling forced to have it by feeling like you were missing out on important details.
this serie has EVERYTHING.
Good characters, good princesses, good history,good world
everything, but they wasted it on fanservice and it hurts-
Seriously though it felt like they actually were trying to make a good compelling story and then it slowly just turned into basically wanting to make fanfiction.
I swear when you said "Star was a terrible girlfriend to Tom" I paused the video and was like "OMG YES SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT!" I agree so much with that statement. Star was AWFUL to Tom when they were dating and that's what bothered me the most in the later seasons. The writers treat Tom like crap just to promote Starco. Tom deserves SO MUCH better than Star and that's why he's my favorite character in SVFOE
Oh trust me, don't worry, literally every tom fan in the fandom was beyond mad with Star in 3 and 4.
You are not alone, people were incredibly mad at the show having star treat him so badly and getting away with it as if her liking Marco meant all the things she did to Tom were somewhat ok.
Its incredibly refreshing to see a review that actually acknowledges that part because not enough TH-cam videos on this show ever actually talk about star's treatment of Tom and how mean it was.
God, poor Tom.
I hope someday we get better justice done for his character.
I mean, the treatment of tom shouldn't be surprising. Remember how they treated him in his introduction episode?
Star isn't really a good person in general, she's demanding, annoying, causes a lot of the problems with the show, doesn't give respect for anyone half of the time, etc.
Tomco better
That’s why I’ve dropped this show cause she was an awful character. Her and Marco.
This man has more knowledge on the series than the people actually running the show...
*Facts!*
I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I was wondering what the song at 1:27:30 is. I hope this isn’t too irrelevant.
@@the6597 call me by 90s Flav
@@rosecandy8922 Thank you!
@@the6597 You're welcome! :)
1:24:21 "I don't know about you but I certainly haven't seen any teenagers do this sh*t"
As a teenager, I can confirm that not only have I not 'done that sh*t, but I have been in zero romantic relationships :')
Ты не одинок братан в таких случаях
Don't worry you aren't the only one
There is also no way Solaria’s ghost would just accept Meteora as her granddaughter in the most abrupt way ever. This is the person who hated monsters so much that she led a full GENOCIDE on them!
Wait if magic is gone... Does that mean her ghost is as well? Like her whole existence? Just evaporated. If that's true then apparently there is no afterlife anymore in star vs.
Star: Besties don’t let besties have bad birthdays
Also Star: Forgets about Marcos birthday while kissing Tom
Edit: it been a year since I posted this comment but uh thanks for the likes
She's just a 15 year old girl. She's a good person, but has bad sides too, like all people yknow..
@@9taileduzumaki805 bruh how do you forget your best friend's birthday
@@simple-sardines wait what???
@@9taileduzumaki805 did you read the original comment you were replying to lol
@@simple-sardines oh yes I did, but 3 days ago soooo... Yeah. And yes besties can forget besties birthday, people forget my birthday...
"tom is based off of all of my demon ex-boyfriends"
seeing as tom is a genuinely good person in the show, doesnt that speak more about her than them?
LOL yuuuuuup. Explains a lot, doesn't it? She thinks it's a happy ending that her main character committed genocide on billions of sentient beings, crippled billions more, and ended human civilization as we know it, just for two fickle teenagers to hook up, whose relationship won't even last because again, fickle teenagers. Of COURSE she'd think that a genuinely good man who's level-headed is a bad guy.
Yeah, I was thinking "If you had so many boyfriends and they were all so bad, what does that really say about you?"
The real villain wasnt star, it was the Creator herself. And is it just me....or are we seeing a entitled future karen?
@@WobblesandBean Mabel almost killed Blendin in “Blendin’s Game”.
@@WobblesandBean Devi’s advocate maybe she meant S1 Tom was based off of her bad ex boyfriends, but later down the line she decided to flesh him out/make him wanna be a better person.
I know the show isn’t that good but it feels weird to speculate about stuff like this with the creator
The first two seasons felt like the first half of a well-crafted drawing done by an amazing artist, and the other two seasons felt like a child's drawing.
The animation in season 1 looked so fluid. Did they change animation studios or something?
@@knucklecracks2.0 I dunno
@@knucklecracks2.0probably studio, but not only that but animation style as well, season one was flash animation.
I've been rewatching this video so many times for background noise and I still love how greatly edited and structured this is, there's so much effort put into this and I LOVE it
also, I absolutely love how people have been realizing more and more lately that Tomco had WAYYY more chemistry than Starco itself. The Tomco shippers are RISING
Moral of the story: DON'T call something your favorite if it's incomplete.
Edit: My rule still stands.
Also, don't use shipping in your story. Leave that to the fans and keep doing your own thing.
Kawaii Cooki UwU - no that’s a shit idea
@@kawaiicookiuwu3322 Yeah that worked real well with Naruto, Voltron, and Digimon. >~>
Artie Rupinen I’d argue it worked well for Naruto solely in and for The Last.
@@Ubermensch9240 Naruto was obvious who they'd get with though.
Marco claiming he was in love with Star since the very beginning is such a load of bull and the writers know it. He only started to show signs of liking Star romantically in season 3.
Exactly, if they meant love you as a friend and than it was more? Sure. Showing more direct signs of romance in season 2 at least like Star mostly had? Great. But this whole oh yeah the blood moon didn't matter either way is just so eck. Would've been more interesting if it legit bound their souls so where if one dies yeet the other dies with them.
Exactly i was so pissed. marco could have had the perfect realization after his break up with Jackie about how much he liked being around star and should have rushed to ask her out. But nooooooo. You just have to tease and ruin the seasons because they wanted cheap drama.
Marco is obviously based on the husband of the creator (who star is based on) so I don't mind it.
His mentally a thirty year old man
I believe he always had an attraction, but it grew into something bigger has time went on.
Also why does no one talk about how eclipsa would litterally kick mewmans out of there homes to fend for themselves in the wild just to give their houses back to monsters and instead of the mewmans hating her for kicking them out of their homes they litterally hate her for no reason that’s litterally what they say
Exactly! That would be a pretty good reason why some mewmans hate her (bc what Eclipsa did to those families was unfair and so rude) but no they just hate her because she's a monster fangirl uughh
Legend has it that to this day, Nachos is still waiting in the Neverzone........
,_, ..... .·´¯`(>▂
The writers were more concerned with the shipping than the actual story.
bruh i wish they had kept marco and star relationship as just besties i think they were cuter that way
@@greatestaxolotl4933 I agree
Seeing the fanbase, can you blame them
@@Manas-co8wl curse of kid shows
and that is a horrible thing to fall prey to
I absolutely ship Starco but like, the way they executed the process was awful, I didn’t like it
Tons of relationships were torn apart to make room for Starco and that is just wrong
I think for Starco endgame to happen along with these other relationships along way would have to take way longer than 4 seasons for it to actually work well and have the final hug before magic dies have an actual hug impact
big*
ThunderBat If they didn’t do that plot twist of Star returning and saying in Mewni in season 3, that could have worked pretty well, and wouldn’t take so much long. Like, those two in first 2 seasons were so precious.
Honestly some people shipped Marco and Tom, I’m not saying I dislike the idea but it would’ve been kind of neat... Marco and Jackie too, honestly it shouldn’t have been resolved at all.
Lets be honest, starco was a bit of a forced ship in the end of the series
I honestly think season 3 finale is way better
It's filled with unanswered stuff like "what did eclipsa do next?" "Did they have a good life?" "Did mewni go back correctly?"
It's better than the multiple questions and "so we just commited dimensional magical genocide...to prevent monster genocide...wow.
I don't think "Continuity Coordinator" means what you think it means. In a live action TV production, "continuity" usually does not refer to what fans call "continuity". It's not about story, it's about items in the scene. Like making sure a cup of coffee stays on a table between takes. Given that "Wendy J" here was later credited as "Animation Checker", it's likely that "Continuity" was about making sure that the characters and objects in an animation cell were consistent between cells.
That makes it worse they fired her, then.
Star became a horrible person for one, and they dropped too many plot points
Plus the ending was Star possibly dooming every dimension by choosing to destroy magic entirely, but it's ok because she and marco get to be together
I know right?? Like there are probably INFINITE dimensions and Star probably left MILLIONS of lives in the dust.
More than millions if you’re talking about dimensions. More than quadrillions even.
@@jmachero5852 Exactly!! She has no idea what's out there!
I'm 11, binged this show when I was 9, remembered it existed- AND THEN THIS HAPPENS?? sorry what? this is the first time if heard of this, btw
yeah personally even if there were problems with season 3 they should have ended the show there but instead they have to have star go full thanos and commit mass genocide
Tom apparently had months of character development offscreen which lead to the breakup. WTF
He went on an Avatar the Last Airbender level soul search while on that trip.
@@MonkeyDCeddy speaking of avatar have you heard about the Aaron ehasz wonderstorm controversy?
@@carlacarrero4975 No I haven't.
@@carlacarrero4975 a lot of the controversy around Aaron seems fishy. I won't jump to Danika side or even Aaron side unless we have evidence to either side. But besides the controversy, The show's fantastic in its character writing, plot and lore.
@@carlacarrero4975 First I'd heard of it but from what I've quickly read it seems like he's a micromanager (maybe a narcissist) who only wants yes-men around him and palms his kids off on random female coworkers (which is stupid and shitty on a number of levels and also makes him an entitled parent)?
Tbh it seems like good/decent (character) writers get away with being toxic and poisoning whatever workplace they're in when it comes to the cartoon industry as the norm at this point. If not they're otherwise really lazy which ultimately hurts the show (e.g. steven universe not staying to model, first season of adventure time, end of svtfoe etc).
Saberspark sent me here. He says "Hi".
I wish they would've done more with Toffee 😭 he got the SU Diamonds treatment giving us a great and threatening villain but kinda just turns lame overnight and is easily defeated by the protagonist.
Star vs the forces of evil should have ended with Ludo, Tom, and Marco sitting on a beach watching the sunset. No star. no Jackie. Just 3 bro’s sitting on a beach.
I want that SO BAD
......
HA
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
YEEES
Yeah but if they did that then it would seem like star is dead or something like that so they couldn't do that
@@JuneLotte would that have been so bad
That kiss scene was more forced than the scene where they were ACTUALLY FORCED to kiss.
After binging the Owl House, a show that pretty much perfectly executes nearly everything Star vs screwed up, it has really thrown this shows failures into clarity. It's like drinking a warm cup of coffee after a way too long groggy nap.
My personal headcanon is that Glosserik was just so suicidal and nihilistic by the point of the show from repeating time and exploring every crevice of the multiverse that he wanted to end his own existence, but for some reason couldn't do it himself, maybe because since his being is so tied to the magic that even if he tried he would have failed and have been brought back so long as magic still existed.
As such he manipulated everyone and probably used some cognitohazard-esc ability to cloud the cast's judgment to destroy magic. As only the destruction of magic once and for all was the only way he could truly rest in peace.
It would explain how literally everyone just seems to be ok about killing themselves, specifically hekapoo and glosserik himself despite the two of them no doubt being the two people in the multiverse who would best recognize the consequences of an action such as this. Heckapoo specifically doesn't seem like the person to have made such a decision to just kill herself so melodramatically so I think glosserick was brainwashing/manipulating her to trick the cast into doing what he wants, something he could do being her creator/father probably
Because, like, otherwise it would make no sense for these two extremely powerful entities to just willingly desire to not only kill/cripple themselves but also every other magical being in the multiverse as well as cripple every society in the universes that used magic as an energy source over a force in a single universe that a least a ballistic missile could have destroyed, and at most a nuke. and that's not talking about all the other crazy shit spells in that spell book that currently three different queens had in their possession for years. There is literally a spell that can cut planets in half, I doubt such a spell wouldn't be able to cut the rebellion's force in half quite literally. honestly I also forget the reason why eclipsa didn't just kill them all because she easily could have.
so ya #blameglosserick
he could have stopped all this shit if he wanted to or given some way to nullify ]magic in a certain field around the racists or just suggest or do something if he wanted to, but he didn't because he wanted to kill himself and brainwashed/manipulated everyone into helping him do it.
Lol, naw
That's kind of like my theory, except for one part where my headcanon is (once the part where the finale credits end) Marco's remaining wounds finally catch up to himself and he dies with Star, having a tiny hint of magic somehow, screams for Marco and destroys the entire universe, with Glossaryck revealed he was alive and him getting punished by beings higher than himself that he did not realize and, due to him not willing to change the timeline or correct it, he is forced to repeat the timelines (and repeat Star vs the same way all over again) for all eternity. It's basically the Devilman ending in a way. but that's just my theory.
Unpopular opinion: The shipping drama never belonged in the show, not even in s1 and s2. You don't make a high stakes action-adventure setting and then spend entire episodes whining about who is kissing who. So much of what was in the books Daron published could have been in the show if they ditched most of the useless filler and shipping episodes. If they wanted relationships in the show they should have been subtle and advance with the story instead of completely diverting from everything just to focus on it.
Kristopher Kohlmeier Thank you! I feel like the writers either forgot that the younger kids they are writing for do not give a shit about shipping, or thought the young adult fanbase would be large enough to garner shipping, and justify the shipping focus.
I personally enjoyed it a lot,
But they definitely could’ve done without it tbh
This wasn't a "high stakes action-adventure setting" outside of the few climatic episodes.
I love a bit of romance in my shows. However, it's a balancing act. It should never overpower the show and IMO should never take more than 5-7% of the screen time. (With the exception of shows in the romance genre I guess) For a show that does a good romance that doesn't overpower its main story please see Avatar the Last Airbender.
Thank you!
And this is why Tom became my main and only reason to watch this show.
-legit character development
-struggles of building himself to be a better person from the ground up
-became forgiving
-felt guilt for past actions (whereas the main leads have no guilt for being douchebags)
-learns from mistakes
-is truly an inspiring character
-selfless
-is truly a caring character
-self sacrificing
If any aspect in this show should be remembered years after the finale, I hope its tom.
It's good to know the fandom is finally giving him the respect he deserves after all this time.
I like Tom, but it felt like he was in the show just for teen drama after S2, you can say the same thing for Marco.
My boy Tom had better development than the main characters on this show.
tom was legit the only reason i watched those seasons too, like i remember his episodes so clearly yet the rest after season 2..... eh,
he's just so good, so pure, so cute, i would SIMP for tom (more like a celebrity/fan thing rather than relationship, this boi needs a break)
*Facts man while starco is cool and stuff I really enjoyed tom in season 3 and i slowly hoped tomstar happened but eh tom deserves better than star*
the ending of svtfoe is so stupid looking back, she literally ended amass genocide WITH A MASS GENOCIDE.
I come back to this video a lot.
Same
This was the list of steps they took when writing this show:
1) Make Starco happen
2) Fill in the rest
3) Kill off Toffee at some point
4) ...Dunno, find another villain to replace him?
I think it was more like:
1) Want Starco to happen from the beginning
2) You're absolutely terrified that people will just drop the show entirely if you make them a couple too early and writing a romance after it's established is haaaaaaard
3) Decide to put as many obstacles as you can to roadblock the relationship until the very last parts of the series
5) Kill Mina
3) Try and write really cool lore but nooooo that's too hard let's just ship Marco with everyone for no reason
@@prowolf633 6) Skip step 5
Bold of people to assume that every starco shipper was satisfied with how things went.
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Yep. You hit the nail on the head.
I know Daron wanted to make things “realistic” but it didn’t feel realistic at all. Just heaps of drama, teasing and frustration.
Right. I was but that ending was horrible,I was one of the hardcore ones but the ending felt rushed.
I mean, he mentions that how poorly they did it made starco fans disappointed to. So no one was happy with the ending.
As someone who shipped them, they did a terrible job executing that. I mean at least some subtle hints in the beginning, develop during the middle, and the end have them hold hands and kiss.
the fact that the show was being written as it aired is insane to me. theres a difference between pantsing (essentially going into first drafts without a plan, then revising later) which is a valid technique and FINISHING THE FINALE A MONTH BEFORE IT AIRS??? that couldve bitten them in the ass if something went wrong w production
It's funny, I remember watching some Owl House related content back when season 1 had just ended and saw someone post a comment along the lines of "Lumity fans be careful! Don't ship them too hard or it'll ruin the show, like with SVTFOE." But fans _did_ ship Lumity super hard, yet the show stayed intact, even when it was canceled and its last season was cut extremely short. Just goes to show that it's not simply the fans' fault for getting too into the show, it's on the show's creators to not let shipping overrule story quality. TOH creator Dana Terrace said she wasn't very into romance, which I think ironically made her really good at keeping Lumity grounded and working _with_ the plot rather than overpowering it and made them a healthy example of a relationship for any viewer. The SVTFOE writers fangirled over Starco so hard the relationship drama impeded on the quality of the whole story and toxic relationship dynamics were portrayed from not too serious to admirable and cute. It also helps that TOH was actually thought out ahead of time while SVTFOE was thought up as it went along and the writers were too willing to bend to the will of what they and the fans personally wanted as opposed to what was actually good for the show.
“Let’s see how SVTFOE fell from grace”
_sees it’s over an hour long_
“Welp better grab my popcorn”
I read Steven Universe for some reason. Maybe bc of the Peridot picture?
Ugh, I need sleep.
I had cake and tea! :D
@@lorettabes4553 complicated in their own good
It's 2 hours long
OMG, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. I didn't know it was gonna be 2 hours long till I saw your comment.
this dude has some god level editing and verbal essay skills. but then there's the 3 pixel camera
You know, it didnt really bother me that much surprisingly
Everyone got to start somewhere! It didn't bug me at all really because everything else (editing, story telling, ect) was quality.
Hey, as long as it works.
Jimmie Oh of course i wasn’t trying to make fun. His content is quality
Except for the fucking audio Jesus Christ bless whoever wore headphones watching this fucking video dude like fuck ever head of audio consistency? Fuck god damn
I applaud you guys for adding the complete subtitles, like the grammar & words are perfect! Not to mention it's a 2 hour-long video, fantastic job!
Wait they did?