IRL they are not really comparable, Maz (Zikz) is a pure offroad heavy weight tractor, HEMTT is more a multi purpose all terrain vehicle. Maz 537 is much wider, heavier and can deal with heavier loads. HEMTT is more comparable to something like the Tatra Force.
That's not an American truck , we don't have those vehicles in the US that truck is a Belarusian truck it's only seen in Russia , North Korea , Belarus , and other former Soviet Union areas. The Derry 15C is modeled after our Airport firefighting apparatus in the United States and also modeled from our military trucks that have the same exact look to the cab.
@@armoredp HEMTT is like a US equivalent to the 73210 or 64131 (and their RL equivalents), or the big Tatras. Oshkosh defense makes a 10x10 cousin to the HEMTT that is even closer to the 73210
Do stability testing, I've heard the new Derry can be pretty tippy, unlike the 605R which has insanely good stability. Also unless they've changed it the Derry has switchable diff lock, so outside of low gear situations is generally going to be slower and use more fuel than the 605R. And under heavy load of course the 73210 has better P2W than either truck. Another consideration is if the Derry can use chain tires, that would be a huge boon for it, currently only the 73210 and the two big Tatras combine the biggest engine with the ability to run chain tires and all 3 of those are limited to 50 inch tires.
All I needed to see was that sweet sweet crane+flatbed,lets hope there will bee roof addons+option for attachable trailers.Ziks is the king,but so far my winner is Tayga-B
Shoulda given the derry some sort of advantage over the Ziks, but it appears to have not a single one apart from the 3 slot flatbed. Not sure why there’s no 3 slot sideboard bed in that case though.
The zikz is stupid overpowered at most jobs, honestly having a 3 slot bed is a pretty big upside as very few trucks have it. I’m glad the American side of things is finally getting an A or even S tier truck regardless of how well the Derry performs to the Zikz
given the existing options for 3 slot trucks it's not really going to be a big improvement, by the time 55 inch tires make a difference the 605R is going to be dramatically better than even the Derry even with a trailer hooked up.
Only thing I see the Derry being more useful is having a crane, for the rest the Zikz is faster through everything and with roofrack it has 200l more fuel.
3 slot with crane would be a big help, otherwise 73210 is more stable and has better P2W at the expense of not having 3 slot + crane and only 50in tires. 5600TS has 3 slot + crane as well, but is tippy AF and not useful in places like Amur due to stability.
Here's to praying we get some mining DLC. Check out the Cat 797F if you need some idea of a real mine truck. 159 inch tires. 800,000 pound capacity. 470,000 pounds itself. It could probably carry every other snowrunner truck in its dump compartment. It's Payload is literally 10x that of the 770G, the current biggest truck in snowrunner.
This is pretty much why I have tweaked all the gamefiles. Russian devs tend to do this kind of thing, where everything Russian is just miles better than anything else. A modern military truck designed in 1980 is less capable than a truck designed in 1960. In the soviet union. Just for reference, when in the west people were driving around in mercedes cars, in the eastern block people were driving trabants, warburgs, and the rich people had ladas. I know because my grandparents are Hungarian. There was nothing superior to the soviet vehicles, the quality was real damn bad. My grandpas trabant would boil up the coolant on every damn hill, and the car had to be push started 50% of the time because even the batteries were terrible. Truck balance in this game is kind of a joke.
@@Aiden-tt2fm It can have a crane w/saddle, crane w/flatbed & trailer, it's American, it has more add-on availability, it has more variety of tires (chained, especially). It's a lot more usable than the 605R. The 605R is great but Derry Special is even better.
I don't think is a fair-play race, as it would need to compare all aspect = how much time you spend to get them as they are Free, cost money, how they pull a trailer in uphill, Fuel consumption, what upgrades they have, tires, as zikz have special tires that have bonus in mud, how they perform in ice in amur, as we all know about zikz, in ice is keep going, and most of all, what adons or what it can do, as The moust powerfull is kolob, but not much people use them, right? My opinion, if these two trucks go one with another Will be a winer combo, as one have better tires and other minicrane ;) until now i was using zikz 605r with azov 73210
I'll be using the, I think there called MHS II. My favourite Mudtire in the game. Chains don't really matter to me, the ice benefit rarely outweighs the loss of mud performance. Between 100% all of Alaska, Kola, Maine and Amur I think I used chained like once or something in Amur to haul a Don up a icy goat trail to it's drop off point. Usually icy spots are flat enough you don't need chains, you can find snow grip by hugging the guardrails and staying on the edge/side of the road, or you can find alternate routes up the rare hill that's actually to slick to get over. So yeah I run the mudtires, it's easier to circumvent ice then circumvent mud/snow. But, it is always nice when the option is there for chains. I might never use them, but I know others do. So more options the better.
These tests don't mean much because the trucks are being run unloaded; and these aren't race cars, they're trucks meant to carry cargo, so how they work when carrying cargo is what's important. Tests should have the trucks loaded as they would be when being used (always test anything the way it will be in use or in a more demanding scenario, not less). If tested with a load appropriate to their design, the Derry would be carrying more, which in itself is a kind of "win", but you could at least see how well they each work under a load. Or, if tested with a significant but equal load on both, I would expect to see an advantage for the Derry because it has a more powerful engine and is designed for bigger loads.
Zikz is still top dawg... the Derry is a very flippy truck like the twinsteers on lifted suspensions... toss on the active lift it's a useless truck! Needs all steer!
Their tire grip coefficient is 20% higher than others, and there is always-on differential and all-wheel drive, which can be used in any gear, while 15c177 can only be used in three low-speed gears.Even the fuel consumption is only half that of the paystar5600 with the same weight and power .....Maybe Russian trucks have advanced alien civilization technology, or American trucks have oil leaks in their fuel tanks!
Might not be very fair because everything to do with the overseas trucks AK Russia trucks are so overpowered compared to the American trucks it's ridiculous American trucks need to have more power more usability than they are giving in the games
They need to put chain tires on Zikz and also out long log carrier They also need to make some way to clear roads of big stones and trees and make trailers for short logs and long logs so you can carry 2 instead of one
@@mrvwbug4423 I'm sure it'd do that fine, especially since it has the most powerful engine in the game. But I could be wrong. I may have to try it out.
Comparing it to the 605r was a mistake, since the ziks is a s+, and the new derry is just an a+ (or something like that i saw)... He should have had compared it to the other 2 derry'es, since all are the same a+ power-to-weight, but then we might have seen the same performances (hence the same a+ on all 3 of them), and that is not really "up selling" a new truck to the audience... Neither comparing the new derry, with the 605r did it justice.. The conclusion I had from watching this video, is that the new derry longhorn truck is just another overpriced reskin to the one we saved in white valley (which I did sell after towing it to the garage, with me 10 weeler azov heavy crane truck)... Its slower (but comparable to the other 2 derry'es, it might be as slow), its as weaker in mud/snow, only benefit is it can have more add-ons, where the other 2 only have the long log carrier front, and the 2 saddles... But the add-ons don't make me throw away about 300k in snowrunner cash... The azov 10x10 is still cheaper, has the same add-ons (or even more, since you can have the sideboard bed + crane + trailer), has better mud/snow performance, has 6 weel steer (so you don't need a whole map to turn)!
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Half of those results are due to the god mode tires on the Zikz
I’m just glad that now we have an american version of the zikz
IRL they are not really comparable, Maz (Zikz) is a pure offroad heavy weight tractor, HEMTT is more a multi purpose all terrain vehicle. Maz 537 is much wider, heavier and can deal with heavier loads. HEMTT is more comparable to something like the Tatra Force.
Ziks is still superb there is no better truck in game but i like as well they adding american trucks
That's not an American truck , we don't have those vehicles in the US that truck is a Belarusian truck it's only seen in Russia , North Korea , Belarus , and other former Soviet Union areas.
The Derry 15C is modeled after our Airport firefighting apparatus in the United States and also modeled from our military trucks that have the same exact look to the cab.
@@josephbennett3482 i saw 5hat military truck looks very cool
@@armoredp HEMTT is like a US equivalent to the 73210 or 64131 (and their RL equivalents), or the big Tatras. Oshkosh defense makes a 10x10 cousin to the HEMTT that is even closer to the 73210
Do stability testing, I've heard the new Derry can be pretty tippy, unlike the 605R which has insanely good stability. Also unless they've changed it the Derry has switchable diff lock, so outside of low gear situations is generally going to be slower and use more fuel than the 605R. And under heavy load of course the 73210 has better P2W than either truck. Another consideration is if the Derry can use chain tires, that would be a huge boon for it, currently only the 73210 and the two big Tatras combine the biggest engine with the ability to run chain tires and all 3 of those are limited to 50 inch tires.
Its not tippy at all. It stable af
All I needed to see was that sweet sweet crane+flatbed,lets hope there will bee roof addons+option for attachable trailers.Ziks is the king,but so far my winner is Tayga-B
Looking forward to trying the new Derry. Looks like I'll be using it alot
Shoulda given the derry some sort of advantage over the Ziks, but it appears to have not a single one apart from the 3 slot flatbed. Not sure why there’s no 3 slot sideboard bed in that case though.
The zikz is stupid overpowered at most jobs, honestly having a 3 slot bed is a pretty big upside as very few trucks have it. I’m glad the American side of things is finally getting an A or even S tier truck regardless of how well the Derry performs to the Zikz
@@mathieuedde1465 Russian developer bias as usual
Most likely it doesnt have a sideboard bed to mimic the paletized loading systems that the oshkosh hemtt uses in real life
@@jon9590 Which is ironic given Saber is a US developer, only the lead dev is a Russian immigrant.
given the existing options for 3 slot trucks it's not really going to be a big improvement, by the time 55 inch tires make a difference the 605R is going to be dramatically better than even the Derry even with a trailer hooked up.
The Best Thumbnail till now!🔥🔥🔥
I think the derry speciel is gonna be a bit more useful. Of course in offroad the zikz is a bit better, but no biggie
Hi there 👋, trie the ZIK 609 AGL , with this truck you can do all contrats or any mission you have! Congrats for the channel!
Only thing I see the Derry being more useful is having a crane, for the rest the Zikz is faster through everything and with roofrack it has 200l more fuel.
3 slot with crane would be a big help, otherwise 73210 is more stable and has better P2W at the expense of not having 3 slot + crane and only 50in tires. 5600TS has 3 slot + crane as well, but is tippy AF and not useful in places like Amur due to stability.
I was waiting for this!!
Here's to praying we get some mining DLC. Check out the Cat 797F if you need some idea of a real mine truck. 159 inch tires. 800,000 pound capacity. 470,000 pounds itself. It could probably carry every other snowrunner truck in its dump compartment. It's Payload is literally 10x that of the 770G, the current biggest truck in snowrunner.
finally good and strong US Truck can't wait for my new toy :)
This is pretty much why I have tweaked all the gamefiles. Russian devs tend to do this kind of thing, where everything Russian is just miles better than anything else. A modern military truck designed in 1980 is less capable than a truck designed in 1960. In the soviet union. Just for reference, when in the west people were driving around in mercedes cars, in the eastern block people were driving trabants, warburgs, and the rich people had ladas. I know because my grandparents are Hungarian. There was nothing superior to the soviet vehicles, the quality was real damn bad. My grandpas trabant would boil up the coolant on every damn hill, and the car had to be push started 50% of the time because even the batteries were terrible.
Truck balance in this game is kind of a joke.
👍👍👍👍👍👍 I hope we see more of this videos
The ziks is one of the best trucks to ever be released from snowrunner, and doubtly they will ever release something as good as the ziks ever again.
Unless they release a region harder than Amur, the 605R is OP because it has to be, Amur is almost impossible without it.
The Derry Special 15C-177 took the 605R's crown. It is way better than the ZikZ.
@Derrick Lewallen derry is good but not as stable as ziks derry flips easy.
@@dlewallen112991 how
@@Aiden-tt2fm It can have a crane w/saddle, crane w/flatbed & trailer, it's American, it has more add-on availability, it has more variety of tires (chained, especially). It's a lot more usable than the 605R. The 605R is great but Derry Special is even better.
650 r is a beast
I don't think is a fair-play race, as it would need to compare all aspect = how much time you spend to get them as they are Free, cost money, how they pull a trailer in uphill, Fuel consumption, what upgrades they have, tires, as zikz have special tires that have bonus in mud, how they perform in ice in amur, as we all know about zikz, in ice is keep going, and most of all, what adons or what it can do, as The moust powerfull is kolob, but not much people use them, right?
My opinion, if these two trucks go one with another Will be a winer combo, as one have better tires and other minicrane ;) until now i was using zikz 605r with azov 73210
It was the kolob74760 but the zikz r605 seems to do better
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It looks like the Derry is better in snow.
Those Maz and HEMTT are worthly oponents! Maz-537 is better at mud, but HEMTT has a better functionality! Also HEMTT has chained tires.
I'll be using the, I think there called MHS II. My favourite Mudtire in the game. Chains don't really matter to me, the ice benefit rarely outweighs the loss of mud performance. Between 100% all of Alaska, Kola, Maine and Amur I think I used chained like once or something in Amur to haul a Don up a icy goat trail to it's drop off point. Usually icy spots are flat enough you don't need chains, you can find snow grip by hugging the guardrails and staying on the edge/side of the road, or you can find alternate routes up the rare hill that's actually to slick to get over.
So yeah I run the mudtires, it's easier to circumvent ice then circumvent mud/snow. But, it is always nice when the option is there for chains. I might never use them, but I know others do. So more options the better.
What map are you using for your tests ? Is it available as a mod ? Thank you for the video.
Yea i dont think they want to dethrone the MAZ just yet
These tests don't mean much because the trucks are being run unloaded; and these aren't race cars, they're trucks meant to carry cargo, so how they work when carrying cargo is what's important. Tests should have the trucks loaded as they would be when being used (always test anything the way it will be in use or in a more demanding scenario, not less). If tested with a load appropriate to their design, the Derry would be carrying more, which in itself is a kind of "win", but you could at least see how well they each work under a load. Or, if tested with a significant but equal load on both, I would expect to see an advantage for the Derry because it has a more powerful engine and is designed for bigger loads.
Zikz is still top dawg... the Derry is a very flippy truck like the twinsteers on lifted suspensions... toss on the active lift it's a useless truck! Needs all steer!
Vs ZiKZ 605R kind of unfair, maybe compare with Azov 73210,
since the add on look similar to the Azov 73210
Ah yes just nerf all western vehicles.
That crane and bed. Zikz will rest now on my garage.
same soon i get new Derry Special zikz will rest in corner my garage :)
The Derry can carry Long logs 😳😁 Sweeet
Chains on wheels 💪
Derry Special 15C-177 VS Tatra Force t815-7 .
Derry Special 15C-177 is the new king! 🇺🇲
no one can beat the king 💪
Like in all russian games, russian tech wins. Ridiculous.
Their tire grip coefficient is 20% higher than others, and there is always-on differential and all-wheel drive, which can be used in any gear, while 15c177 can only be used in three low-speed gears.Even the fuel consumption is only half that of the paystar5600 with the same weight and power .....Maybe Russian trucks have advanced alien civilization technology, or American trucks have oil leaks in their fuel tanks!
A worthy opponent but noboby can beat the king
Might not be very fair because everything to do with the overseas trucks AK Russia trucks are so overpowered compared to the American trucks it's ridiculous American trucks need to have more power more usability than they are giving in the games
With Russian biased devs, of course they'll make Russian vehicles "better." They need to balance vehicles better.
Bias towards Russian/European trucks as usual by Russian Devs.
Comparing something with full-time diff lock to something without full-time diff lock. Lol
this is kinda unfair with the derry u can almost put it in high gear for ever
They need to put chain tires on Zikz and also out long log carrier
They also need to make some way to clear roads of big stones and trees and make trailers for short logs and long logs so you can carry 2 instead of one
Chain tires on the 605R would be unbalanced, you'd literally never use any other truck again.
nothing compares to the Zikz.
Would love to see the Derry compared to AZOV73210, these two seem pretty similar (e.g. versitality)
the 605 is not worth the trouble getting. Literally gets stuck on every rock i try to go over.
🤡🤣
More like u just don't know how to use it to its advantage works fine with me
Because the Kolobs, and Azovs don't get hung up even worse?
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Zikz the king of snowrunner
She truly is. And she always will be
vielen dank
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This is maz 537 that it
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Poor comparison.
Zikz will always be the king lol
Until they add a region harder than Amur, which I don't think they will do because Amur was already insanity level difficulty.
So basically the derry is useless
First US truck outside the CATs with MSH tires, that's something
No, it's not. It's the new king!
@@dlewallen112991 Depends on what you're doing with it. I still don't envison it hauling the rocket carrier without assistance.
@@mrvwbug4423 I'm sure it'd do that fine, especially since it has the most powerful engine in the game. But I could be wrong. I may have to try it out.
This video wasn't a very good comparison between the ZikZ 605R and Derry Special 15C-177.
Who said this new derry was any good? From what I have seen, it looks like another bogus truck.
Comparing it to the 605r was a mistake, since the ziks is a s+, and the new derry is just an a+ (or something like that i saw)... He should have had compared it to the other 2 derry'es, since all are the same a+ power-to-weight, but then we might have seen the same performances (hence the same a+ on all 3 of them), and that is not really "up selling" a new truck to the audience... Neither comparing the new derry, with the 605r did it justice.. The conclusion I had from watching this video, is that the new derry longhorn truck is just another overpriced reskin to the one we saved in white valley (which I did sell after towing it to the garage, with me 10 weeler azov heavy crane truck)... Its slower (but comparable to the other 2 derry'es, it might be as slow), its as weaker in mud/snow, only benefit is it can have more add-ons, where the other 2 only have the long log carrier front, and the 2 saddles... But the add-ons don't make me throw away about 300k in snowrunner cash... The azov 10x10 is still cheaper, has the same add-ons (or even more, since you can have the sideboard bed + crane + trailer), has better mud/snow performance, has 6 weel steer (so you don't need a whole map to turn)!
It's great. Better than ZikZ 605R.