Great additional info on these bikes, thank you! This really may be the sweet spot in size, power and range for a lot of trail riders that want electric. Can't wait to test one.
NIce interview thanks. The more info on these AL's the better. Can't wait till the 800's arrive as both models are more suited to most people imo. Just a little disappointing that they would ship you a bike without all the parts included.
Yeah, I think they're fun, the instant torque is a blast, and they are so easy to ride. This one we were discussing is as heavy as a dirt bike, so I'm not sure how tiring it will be, but I hope to be able to ride it at some point and get a feel for it.
I’m currently ride 2022 Lifan KPX 250 Dual Sport which I bought brand new, I’ve average ride 200 miles in a day from my home to trails, 35 miles of it on trails and dirt road. I think I’ll wait for big improvements on range.
And currently in the USA I don't think any of the ebikes are street legal, so if you need to ride from home (and you live in the states) having a ebike wouldn't work well. I want light feeling trail bike, and for me 60 miles is a ton of riding on trails in one day. I usually don't go over 40 in one day, so this would work fine for my needs. It all goes back to how a person plans on using it. Sounds like it would not fit your needs well.
@@markjeepingful the way I understand it, it's government regulations, they're not allowing most ebikes to be titled as a "motorcycle". I hope it changes in the near future.
Hp has very little meaning to Electric bikes. 15hp with monstorious torque is more than ideal for most trail riding around 8kw. I think around 15kw will be perfect for most trail stuff. But trail testing the Vargs smaller battery has hit 50 miles to 10%. I'd expect with the Leopards larger capacity to hit 60 miles even with spirited riding. At an Enduro race pace you'd probably see about 40 miles. Given I now have riders in my group on husky TBIs that can barely make it 45 miles on a tank of gas it's not bad at all. We'll have plenty of testing here soon.
Great additional info on these bikes, thank you! This really may be the sweet spot in size, power and range for a lot of trail riders that want electric. Can't wait to test one.
NIce interview thanks. The more info on these AL's the better. Can't wait till the 800's arrive as both models are more suited to most people imo. Just a little disappointing that they would ship you a bike without all the parts included.
Yeah, I expect them to get better with the shipping process. At least I hope so. I think the 800 will be the sweet spot for a lot of people.
Got an 800 in yet ?
@@jimji2774 not yet, they're still testing out the 880. I'll try and get a video out when they get an 800 in. 👍
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It’s exciting to see more of these electric bikes, especially the full sized ones. I’d consider adding one to my fleet (or switching) 👍
Yeah, I think they're fun, the instant torque is a blast, and they are so easy to ride. This one we were discussing is as heavy as a dirt bike, so I'm not sure how tiring it will be, but I hope to be able to ride it at some point and get a feel for it.
I’m currently ride 2022 Lifan KPX 250 Dual Sport which I bought brand new, I’ve average ride 200 miles in a day from my home to trails, 35 miles of it on trails and dirt road. I think I’ll wait for big improvements on range.
And currently in the USA I don't think any of the ebikes are street legal, so if you need to ride from home (and you live in the states) having a ebike wouldn't work well. I want light feeling trail bike, and for me 60 miles is a ton of riding on trails in one day. I usually don't go over 40 in one day, so this would work fine for my needs. It all goes back to how a person plans on using it. Sounds like it would not fit your needs well.
@@rockymountainlife zero dual sport is only one does. Wonder why no one else can?
@@markjeepingful the way I understand it, it's government regulations, they're not allowing most ebikes to be titled as a "motorcycle". I hope it changes in the near future.
Stop it the only way you're going to get 70 Mi out of that as if you ride at 15hp.
Manufacturer says 110 miles at 22 mph. All we can do is go off what they say until we can do our own testing.
Hp has very little meaning to Electric bikes. 15hp with monstorious torque is more than ideal for most trail riding around 8kw. I think around 15kw will be perfect for most trail stuff. But trail testing the Vargs smaller battery has hit 50 miles to 10%. I'd expect with the Leopards larger capacity to hit 60 miles even with spirited riding. At an Enduro race pace you'd probably see about 40 miles. Given I now have riders in my group on husky TBIs that can barely make it 45 miles on a tank of gas it's not bad at all. We'll have plenty of testing here soon.
6.7 kwh is a huge battery. I could see at least 60 miles of trail riding. Just not sure I would want that weight when I don't need that range.
An actual trail test: th-cam.com/video/Ztk6dUTU51s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ADln6xMvMSnjR43I