Project Overlander Front Axle Swap Part 2 (IRO Dana 30 Axle Truss Install)
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- This is part 2 of Project Overlander's front axle swap. In this video, I install the Iron Rock Offroad Dana 30 Over the axle truss kit. I also installed IRO's inner sleeve kit but that will be shown in another video. Check out the install of this awesome kit and see a Dana 30 get supersized!
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I showed this vid to my teenage daughter and she said, "I don't have any idea what he's talking about, but I want to watch the whole thing!" When it was over, we said this video makes everyone feel like they could do what you did... even if they don't know what a welder looks like.
You have a gift.
wish there was someone around here that was a welder like you Tyler - i have both my front and rear axles that need this done - Great video Great job A+ !!!
I Truss you know what you are doing. Good quality video. Looks good.
I don't understand why so many guys, spend thousands on fancy wheels and tires, shocks, etc., But don't have a truss on their axel. Your explanations are top notch. Personally, that truss is one the nicest I've seen.
Out of all the off-road videos on TH-cam I've watched that have any kind of welding in them. Your welds are by far the best. Well done!
Wow, thanks man!
Great vid. I really like the audio dubb-over as opposed to stopping in the video to explain. The sound is more clear, and you can explain while you're showing it. Very well done.
Thanks, I want to start doing most of my videos this way. It allows me to cut out a lot of unnecessary footage too.
You can be proud of the Dana 30 with that installed. Excellent fabrication work, explanation, and video!
Very nice video. Good camera angles, soundtrack wasn't too loud, and you thoroughly explained the steps and considerations. Two thumbs up man 👍👍
Nicely done, Tyler!
You're a good welder Tyler looks mint
Thanks!
you have to put that axle in to a museum!
It looks awesome, really nice work!
Great vid iro products are defiantly top notch. I got there rear truss for my ford 8.8 and love it. Good quality and great instructions. I will probably do the same thing to my Dana 30 when ever I rear gear and put in my ox locker.
Great work! You make it look easy, and it so isn't. That's a piece of art in my eyes. Thanks for the video.
Hey thanks! I've always enjoyed working with my hands.
Great Job! Very nice welds!
Thank you for detailed video, I have probably watched this 5 times
Good looking welds. Nice work.
That kit is just awesome! Looks laser cut.
Those welds look excellent. It would be nice if you could do a video showing your welding rig and even the type of rod you prefer. Thanks for the videos!
wow great work. it's nice that you can do all your own work. I would love to be able to do work like this. once again great work.
nice work, and super nice kit.
wow great install, nice work you are an amazing welder
I got a 99 wj with iron rock long arm kit, love it rides great. Next task is to rebuild and regear the rear. Good video
Those beads are top class man! Sweet!
Excellent workmanship!
This is a really cool video. You've given me something to consider as I think of potential upgrades to do next year when I tackle a frame swap for my TJ. Thanks a lot for sharing this & Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
great job! looking great!
I'd trust that truss!! great work, and awesome job on the video.
A lot beter video from you I love it!
Welds are absolutely beautiful, makes me want to step up to true mig and stop messing around with flux core. Nice work and sweet kit.
flux core sucks! if you ever want to come down to TN Nick just let me know man, a collab video might be in the works;) -Matt
Thanks Nick, the funny thing is I had never heard of IRO until I watched your almost-alloy kit video. That got me checking out their website and product line. Welding with flux-core is rough bro. Step up to MIG with gas and you'll never go back!
That's what I keep hearing. Some day soon I'll have to grab a bottle and do it proper.
I like your welding. Can u describe your welding motion? Is it
zig-zag, or "circles"? I have a Lincoln 140 110v welder flux-core from Home Depot. The
ad states:
3/16" single pass
5/16" multi-pass
So, ur saying it's inadequate for this 1/4" bracket & 1/4" axle tube? But, you are using a 110v welder with Ar/CO2 gas?
+Tyler Bleepinjeep in regard to welding on a axle, what's wrong with flux core other than appearance? Does it not penetrate enough?
This is a good video brother. Good quality of welds too.
great video.makes you go outside and get it done.
You do awesome welds!
LOL. Since you know wtf you are doing you can make even a cheap ass ebay truss kit look good. well done sir. I'm seeking a sturdy dana 30 for my explorer sas.
Man thats a very well done job
Finally! when i did this there was no info on this product at all. not even any pictures. I had to notch my truss to clear the trackbar drop bracket + send the axle rearward as far as possible. ALSO I had to cut and remove that section of the truss that straddles the pinion. This little cross piece was totally in the way of the upper control arm ( I am running a duel y-link). Oh and I know the directions and in the video it is explained to mount the truss 3/4 '' forward of the diff cover mounting surface, but just be consciousness of what pinion angle you want really because it will affect where the coil buckets sit and what have you. I set mine a little more rearward. The "sway bar link bracket," works well for limit straps aswell. I threw my swaybars in the trashcan long ago. ALSO I had to notch the C gussets to clear my u-joints just a tad. Be careful aligning those CA brackets too. i ended up having to take an upper control arm to the mill and oval the slot open to fit a bolt through. I then welded a thick washer on top the oval.
Dang, that's a lot of mods. That must've been a pain.
Yes a bit of a pain. The real B**** was grinding out all my welds because of porosity. Buddies welder wasn't cutting it. Ended up purchasing a Hobart 210 MVP. Great Rig! Should have bought it years ago... Oh well live and learn. Your weld are purrrdy btw!
super job, great video thank you! !
Well you definitely did a fantastic job but definitely a lot of work for a Dana 30 sweet video
Gorgeous welds
Great informative video...but where is part 3? I need to know the rest of the story! Seriously, I am going to build my D30 and would like to see the rest of this build. Thank you!
Chromoly axles along with those sleeves and the truss is a massive improvement to those axles. ujoints will still need a helping hand. It's turning out good for sure.
thanks!
Anytime, I'm always glad to see projects coming together and looking good. I was thinking about upgrading to these chromoly ujoints, they're pricey as hell though lol.
eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-11785922-yukon-super-joints-for-dana-30-44-u-joints.html
Chro-mo joints look cool, but I recommend you just stick with regular old Spicer joints. U-joints are easy to replace on the trail compared to axle shafts and pinion gears. I want my U-joints to be my fuses.
Tyler Bleepinjeep That's true and a good way of looking at it. I'm all for that as long as the u-joints doesn't mangle my axle shafts when they break. I don't see why everyone is so butthurt about upgrading the D30, with what all you've done to yours already, it's going to be as strong as any D44 if not stronger than most.
Bump this to 23...IRO truss fits perfect and is easy to do. Installing HP 30 in my TJ since I already had chromo-shafts and Detroit but blew r&p in low-pinion 30...should be good with 35's. Thanks for vid. Very helpful.
I'm thinking about getting this for my HP30 on my LJ. From the site, it says: Coil Spring Mounts: Moved up 1" and back 1/2" for better coil spring retention and alignment throughout the suspension cycle.
Does this mean my 4" coils will effectively be 5"?
@Thunder_Mass1756 my Jeep sits about an inch higher in front now. I am debating on lower coils in front or a small coil spacer in rear. When grinding housing down I suggest leave a little meat where the lower control arm mounts were so you can center them easier.
I love your channel guys
That is one badass looking axle! Also, that was one sexy welding boot you had there on your left foot. ;)
HAhahaha! Ya, I broke my ankle in the middle of this project. Kinda scary welding with an open-toed boot on!
Tyler Bleepinjeep Ouch! You know Tyler we're supposed to break our jeeps not ourselves. 😜
I have watched this video no less than 50 times over the past 4 years. I am in the market for a truss, and I am between the Barnes and IRO trusses. I look at this IRO trust and think, there has to be clearance issues at some point at full articulation. I have a basic 4" lift with sway bar disconnects, so I get a good amount of flex. Curious if anyone has any feedback on this.
I watched all of this.... I'm not even building or planning on building one of these .
You too eh
You sir are awesome 👍👍
Your welds are really beautiful. Great related tips in the video, as well.
Is welding your trade, for that matter? You seem to be way too details oriented for that to be a hobbie. :)
Thanks man! I am actually not a welder by trade but I've been dabbling with it for 15 years or so. Maybe I missed my calling?? :)
+Tyler Bleepinjeep : hahah, maybe indeed. :)
When's the rest of the lift coming out? I'm eager to see this build!
killer welds. looks like it was done by a robot.
reading the instructions I have from iron rock have the c gussets installed in a wishbone shape. Any reason why you welded to the side of c's?
this is awesome. where's that sleeve and regear vid? is it out yet?
I know this video is a little dated by i was researching some other info on the Dana 30 and came across this gem. Great video Tyler. You mentioned publishing a video on the IRO inner axle sleeve installation. I looked for it on BJ’s site and youtube but couldn’t find it. Anyway you could put a link in the comments?
Nicely done Tyler, More a question. Are the coil perches at the same height as factory so I can reuse my existing coil? Thank you in advance
Awesome welds, I love the attention to detail. I'd never put chrome molly shafts in a 30. You'll destroy the ring gear. Run stock shafts & let them be the fuse in the front axle. Stock shafts are cheap in the junk yard.
I agree, I don't plan to put chrome molly shafts or any kind of alloy U-joints either. I would much rather replace axles than gears. I'll be installing IRO's "almost alloy" kit on this axle and hopefully, that will get me good reliability with a built-in fail safe
I just bought a new Dana 44 and I'm soon going to be welding my truss on it for my long arm kit. The axle tubes are already welded to the pumpkin I shouldn't need to replace the inner seals after words should I?
I just had a shop weld a Artec truss on the front Dana 44 in my XJ...They said the seals will be fine, but everyone else disagrees? Also how do I check to make sure they didn't warp my axle!!!! Thanks in advance!
Definitely looking to truss and re mount the WJ diffs front and rear of my 2nd Heep. Unfortunately I will have to have someone weld them due to my recent defibrillator install. Not sure how to acetylene weld yet , would not trust it . Any takers near Durham,NC ? LoL.
Great video amazing welds.. What brand and model welder you using?
The work you did on this axle is beautiful, but I still have questions & concerns:
Welding to the "c's" & tubes is cool, but how much confidence do you really have in the chunk after all the heat treating it's been subjected to? How much confidence do you have in the weeds that secure the truss to the chunk? Sure, the welds might be top notch, but I'd be afraid of the the chunk cracking on me. I'd also be afraid of warpage. This was a considerable investment of time, money & effort; as such I would've put it into a full float dana 60. Yeah, they're expensive & hard to find, but the alternative seems like throwing good money on top of bad, expensive & prone to failure.
i have dana 30 jku with 35s 4.88 gears i do moderate wheeling could i get away with truss kit on dana 30 or should i get dana 44 later love your Chanel
I have a question! How do you change the bushing on the hog head after the truss is installed?
What settings are you using on the welder when burning in the truss vs the axle shafts to center pumpkin?
would it be better to weld the c guests first so the truss isn't in the way?
Which welder do you use? .035 wire? What are your settings?
Did you add any caster or did you stay with factory spacs?
I have a 88 comanche 2WD, it will be a big problem to convert to 4WD?
Hell of a great job got a question about how much money for all that
Good job Tyler! Have a quick Q. At the 12:11 mark your video shows a control arm mount on the pumpkin without a bushing in it. How were you able to press that in? I'm having one heck of a time getting one it because there's no room for a press.
What is the cost of parts and work tyler bleepingJeep?
Looks great but must be expensive and heavy at the end.....costwise maybe cheaper to find a stringer axle...or no?
How much do you think a shop would charge to weld and clean these parts, I don't have a welder and if I got one there is no way I would attempt something like this.
Did you have any oil pan clearance issues? Looks pretty tall
I just asked this as well. Would LOVE to know the answer!
Tyler very good work all around you did it exactly how it should be done. Where are you from?
Thanks Austin, I live in the high desert of the Intermountain West.
The Iron Rock truss bridges the center section without being welded to the cast steel, doesn't a truss system that's welded to the center section make an axle stronger?
I'd do a 44 swap or maybe a 60 for all the work going into this 30. Not worth it for me but maybe it is for you.
Are you using a special wire or just standard mig wire?
Do you thing is better this truss over the ARTEC INDUSTRIES?
Do you know if this would interfere with over the knuckle steering? and how would you go about sealing the metal on the inside of the truss?
th-cam.com/video/30ciMg8O_Xw/w-d-xo.html
Does this kit not require welding on center section?
I tried to find the axle truss for the Dana 30 but could not find it please help
Hi, the welder you have in description as recommended for beginners, is that the welder you are using?
If your just starting to weld get watever you can afford the welder itself has very very little to do with how the welds turn out.
What should Dom if I have no welder? Or know how to weld?
Did you ever make a video on the axle sleeves
what would be better to use for welding the tubes to the diff housing?
mig welding with a 110volt 140amp welder with 0.35 ER70S-6 wire and c25 (or cO2)
or
arc welding with 220volt 200amp welder with 1/8 7018
?
or something different?
for anyone else wanting to know. i ended up arc welding with 1/8" 7018 after a little 400 degree pre heat and slow cool with blankets. it worked well
I want this kit looks like a lot of work but good insurance.
What setup are you using for cast? Standard 75/25 gas with solid MIG wire? Settings for thickness of steel you're welding to the cast? I'm using the Hobart 140.
I'm using standard CO2 argon mix gas with solid wire. I have the Miller turned up as high as it will go. This particular machine has a cool feature where you just designate what wire thickness you're using (0.24 or 0.35) and it automatically adjusts the wire speed according to how hot you turn it up. It's REALLY convenient. I'm running 0.24 wire btw.
Would this work on a dana 44 full width out of a ford?
Questions. I have 91 XJ with the vac line axle. However I have a 94 straight axle like this one to go in. My question is what do I do with the vac line that I won't need anymore?
remove them, and or cap them off.
will that truss work on a wj dana 30 axle
So, did you measure straightness after welding the truss on? Longside looks bent.
Yes, it's still straight. Hard to tell from the vid, I know.
I've never seen anyone weld the tubes on a Dana 30. I'm trussing mine soon, is spinning tubes on them that much of an issue?
Thanks
Francesco Antinoro no small diameter size of the ring gear is the problem. You can bulletproof the dana 30 all you want, the small diameter of the ring gear is the weak point. If you have a locker, kiss your gears goodbye👋🏻
what type of wire did you use
Does it fir a Dana 30 of a WJ??
If the front tubes need to be welded to the bell housing they if you want to rotate the front axle for a 5.5 lift, why cut the "C" brackets? Why not just rotate the tubes?
What is the biggest wheel you could run with a D30? 35", 37" 40". I've heard that the diff center is the weakest part.
The diff will become the weakest link if you upgrade everything else first. There is certainly a point where the Dana 30 just cannot handle what an outfit demands of it. That always depends on your driving style, the horsepower of your motor, the size of your tires, etc. etc. etc. But a good rule of thumb is don't go bigger than 37's with a Dana 30 no matter how many mods you throw at it. You'll just start breaking diff gears.
nice! I wish I knew how to weld, this type of work is pricy.
Are you completely sure that the "C" gussets go like that? I thought they were supposed to be welded together and go inside the C's...
awesome vid Tyler. like always. but I had a newb question, so sorry in advance. I saw a couple comments on here already, but I know very little about welding and I would love to learn the trade. are you using a 110v or 220v. and does 220v really make a much stronger weld? cleaner weld? more penetration? what are the biggest advantages?
you can see he is using a miller 140 in the video which is a 110v welder. You don't need a 220v welder but the more volts the better
Start with a Miller 140 (110v) with a bottle of gas (not flux-core) and you'll be able to weld almost anything you need to as a hobbyist. I very rarely need to bump up to my big Hobart. I get 99% of my welding done with the little Miller. It's an AWESOME machine.
+Tyler Bleepinjeep
I don't know why it took me this long to see your reply, haha. but thank you!!
a rear shock absorbers work at the front?
if it fits, it ships
Does this dude have his own channel?