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Elder Scrolls Lore: Ch.18 - Talos - A Legend is Born
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Tamriel is a land divided. Divided by race, divided by culture, and divided greed. Yet, there was once time in its history when this land fell under a single banner, was driven by a single purpose, and was ruled by a single leader. This is the story of one man and his legacy. A story that some say truly begins to reveal itself in the Province of Skyrim, with a young warrior who went by many names, but the Nords called Talos.
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Magnus Gravrok Magnusson you mean 5:23
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This really makes me feel how much of a shitty Dragonborn we are. While we were being accused of stealing sweet rolls and listening to guards complaining about arrows, Talos was commanding a nation, goddamn.
Yeah but did he defeat alduin tho?
kawiesh Matai and did he kill miraak
@@originaler31er67 and did he kill a vampire lord
Did he kill a chicken in Riverwood?
Did he get fucked up by a Frost Troll tho?
So Talos is what would happen if Alexander The Great had conquered the world. We would have dragons and shit.
+Aaron Kalat dammit ._.
I'd love to see that
I'd love to see that
Alexander the Great was our mighty god emprah,he faked his death so he could prepare for the great crusade
He could be the 13th Hellenic God
Playing through Tiber Septim's life would make a great Elder Scrolls game.
Tiber Septim is a political construct created due to the actions of three separate people.
mojonation1487
u wot m8?
It would be just like Dragon age Inquisition and I have to say it's an awesome idea because Tiber Septim is a true charismatic character. Also is not true that you cannot make any choices because during his war of conquest Talos' personal decisions are mostly unknown so you can create your own type of Empire and story. Like any leader you could lead an army, of course you can't face a stronger enemy without levelling up or increasing the power of your soldiers (like Mass Effect 3 if you don't take the necessary military strenght you can die and have a very bad ending). For example if you decide to defeat the Aldmeri Dominion without good warriors or recources you'll die. As a prequel it would be an amazing game.
Rhiannon Kaye Then they should make a tv show like GoT, but with more heroism. this story has a great potential. Still I think that for "Tiber Septim's game" fans would appreciate because I reapet again he is a great character with a very very badass story. I know that something like this could broke the entire Elder Scrolls game-system but I would make an exeption fo Talos, come on we are talking about Tiber Septim the greatest badass hero of all time, better than Geralt, Shepard, and many others
mojonation1487 Finally, someone else who knows!
Forget Jon Snow, Talos is the true King in the North!
"There sits the only man I mean to bend my knee to. The King in the North."
Mr Schrödinger - I am the one who games. Bear island only knows one King, the King in the north whose name is septim
Tha King In Tha North !
You mean Robb?
Fuck yea this guy would crush Cersei and White walker in no time
4:08 Talos is so powerful he has shrine to himself before he even was known as a god
HA
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Lol that's the funny thing about becoming a god. Suddenly you were always a god. So is it masterbatory that he made himself worship himself?
One of the reasons I love Tiber Septims story so much is not that his deeds to Tamriel were so great or that he became a legend but that he had so much faith in himself and in his abilities. When ever I doubt myself I just remember how far Talos would have gotten had he been faithless.
nerd
Asesinó a quien le juró lealtad para quedarse él con el trono, traicionó a su mejor amigo para robarle su alma y utilizarla para controlar el Nomidium, obligó al Dominio Almer a entrar en el Imperio pero aún así los atacó, abusaba sexualmente de las embajadoras Almer y cuando se quedaban embarazadas las obligaba a abortar y luego las hacía desaparecer. En serio ese es tu ídolo??
9 years later, but you should read about Julius Caesar!
Wait a fucking minute. Did he say that those of the Dragon Blood could wear the Amulet of Kings? Does that mean...Dragonborn, in theory, could wear the Amulet of Kings (If it actually existed) and be the Emperor of Tamriel? I'm pretty sure that all of the Septim bloodline were in fact of Dragon Blood. And considering that the Amulet of Kings was given by Akatosh, AKA the father of all Dragons, i think that it means that the Dragonborn from TES 5: Skyrim could've been the EMPEROR of Tamriel?
Yes, that's right.
Also the dragon blood could also be called the children of Kynareth.
We will see what happens to the dragonborn in the next installment. Will he rebuild the empire or build a new one? Or he could just disappear?
Well if the last dragonborn dies that means the dragon blood is gone and since the amulet is broken there won't be a trace left.
+MilkyAndStuff the last dragon will disappear like all the other heros from past games
there really needs to be an animated series about talos
We definetly need it
+RedoranGuard's-SkyrimBattles why are you everywhere
The truth is far more disappointing that you may think mr. lies man.
Todd Howard or just a real tv serie...... Conquer of tamriel
Too bad Bethesda sucks at animations lmao
There needs to be an episode dedicated to Miraak, there is just so much confusion surrounding him.
Zaric Zhakaron So...is it likely that we will get more info on him in the future?
Zaric Zhakaron Its just that I see a lot of potential in his story. I for one think that his story should be expanded upon.
I come back and watch this series every time i play Skyrim. I love your videos ❤
This was released on my birthday. I turned 15 and was super stoked to learn about the lore of a game I had been playing nonstop. I'm 23 about to be 24 and I still credit this channel for introducing me to a huge world of amazing lore and a better understanding and appreciation of the world of Tamriel. Much love ShoddyCast.
"Where my breath, is looooong winter!"
"I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine! I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you!"
Ates Goksu "Aye love!"
"and aye and as man he said let me show you the power of talos stromcrown who is both man and devine"
"But, what of tomorrow? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? YOUR CHILDREN? YOUUUR VEEERY LIIIIVES!?"
***** Your very LIIIVVEEEEEEEEESSSSS?!?!?
This series is single handedly responsible for my interest in these games, truly breathtaking story presentation.
If Talos isnt a god the ritual which opens portal to Mankar Camorans Paradise will not work and Tamriel would destroyed by Mehrunes Dagon and his Daedric forces of Destruction.Also without Talos Hero of Kvatch cannot destroy Umaril the Unfeatherd in the spirit realm and Umaril would destroyed Tamriel.Talos is once a man but he ascended to godhood just like Hero of Kvatch (He become Sheogorath in Skyrim.)
Different method, but yeah.
Late to the party, but Talos bless your deductive reasoning skills.
You should do one of Mirrak, or Alduin
Alduin is a lame villain and i only care about Mirrak is because that fucker took my dragon souls
this is why I love the elder scrolls, their is just so much depth to the game. :D
The king of the north!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!
In*
Wrong series.
I am so much looking forward to see Nerevar and Nerevarine in your series, so that people will know, that he saved the world just like the Dragonborn did! And Tribunal ALMSIVI too!
Talos helped the Nerevarine with a coin of luck.
For anyone interested in the truth of this story: Read the Arcturian Heresy book in the game. It was technically written by Talos himself.
Indoril Nerevar Moon-and-Star Well, 1/3 of the Oversoul, but It's still very much valid.
Raziel it was written by a high elf
Define technically...
@@Gnossiene369 Technically: That is according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly.
The Arcturian Heresy was canonically written by the Underking, who is two parts of the Oversoul that is Talos the god.
Happy now little bitch?
@@Gnossiene369 Don't ever reply on a 4 year old comment with retarded questions like that again.
Funny thing about ban on Talos is that the Empire is very much willing to look another direction and if forced to act, will just tell you not to do that. However, they only act in strength when Thalmor begin to notice, which is what happened in Markath. Empire was more than willing to let Talos worship to continue, but because certain idiot *cough*UlfricStormcloak*cough* decided to openly declare the place as a place to worship Talos and told Thalmor to suck it, thus making Thalmor declare that the Empire was breaching the treaty...
I agree Ulfric is a colossal idiot and full of shit to boot - read the Thalmor dossier on him - he is or was an informany for them - plus he is a racist scumbag.
@@TheMeestLord
He's an "asset" of the thalmor as much as Alduin is.
That's like saying Stalin was an asset to Hitler, basically.
I think Bethesda should try to make a strategic game of the Elder Scrolls series.
+Akula Doktor Elder Scrolls: Total War
There is already mods on Elder Scrolls, like in Total War and Elder Kings.
Knoxx Plays It has not been updated, that is why. Because of Horse Lords they have to fix it.
+Akula Doktor Complete with pre-order DLC. Extra 15 dollars you'll get the Mer races!
+Napoleon's Mate Elder Scrolls: War's Dawn
Hearing this intro after not watching these videos since they were brand new is very nostalgic for me
I love the lore behind this game, so deep
Funny thing is this is still just the beginning the lore is actually MUCH deeper than this.
After watching this video... I came to the conclusion that ya'll of us motherfuckers really need Talos.
I'm Here.
"Sancre Tor was impregnable." Tell that to King Hrol.
TES lore is so complicated and i love it. I want to learn everything
Read the books in game. It's cool to make a sort of arcane scientist build and research all the books and ruins in the world.
This gave me the shivers, even made me cry a little bit (for some unknown reason).
Do you ever think that... Maybe... Talos is like an metaphor for the Player Characters? A hero of many names who makes their mark on the world guided by a prophecy, surviving unimaginable odds and becoming so legendary and gaining so many honors that he replaced Lorkhan as the patron god of Man and became the guardian saint and founder of The Cyrodilic Empire whose bloodline was cut (almost like Bethesda didn't want you to meet his descendants as to see his race) and his brother had to be granted the title of Dragonborn Emperor by Akatosh as to bind the world once more away from the prying eyes of the Daedra...
I meant all of Talos' adventures sound sorta like a game and its' DLC with the building scale and strangeness of things in Tamriel... I mean it even has like stuff for Guild Quests sorta with the vagueness of events (like the death of Talos' king) being Tiber Septim could be the Nightblade who killed whatshisname or the assassin or just a coupe covered up by a fanciful story
In the lore it NEVER says what race Talos/Tiber Septim actually is, he was born in high rock, grew up in Skyrim and the imperial legends say he is Atmoran. So he could be either Breton, Nord, Atmoran or a mix between them.
Before Skyrim I always thought he was a Breton (Played all the TES games), but now all the Skyrim fanboys/kids insist he is a Nord without a shred of evidence.
You played Elder scrolls before skyrim? By the eight, you are above us all!
AFatStarFish Huh? Dued, even though nowadays due to the over advertisement of games which is actually shit skyrim had to overadvertise, making it 50% of TES gamers knowing only skyrim. That thought seriously shamed me when i compared skyrim to morrowind. I'm just gonna call you a noob now. Even google knew only of skyrim's title, not the past games...
Do you know a lot about tes lores or did you play skyrim only to enjoy that absurdly easy piece of shit in the TES standards?
Ace Hughj That "piece of shit" did make game of the year, you know.
Brian Thomson
While the past made 3 year straight game of the year.
All bethesda's game is actually game of the year because compared to other games skyrim is still insanely good
bethesda dissapointed me with morrowind (IN ESO, so im waiting for the sixth. Even though i said skyrim is shit it means how easy it is, not exactly the quality. The advertisement made alduin look so epic but he's so weak oy. At least Mai'q the Liar still existed with some trivia, so did sheogorath.
But bethesda seriously advertised it too much for it's worth, it lost to the 1st halo in my opinion.
Don't try to argue by saying "You think your an expert?" because i AM. I played all rpg's in the world starting from nintendo 64 and Famicom all the way to buying PS 4 only to play TESO. I finished dark souls 2 with champion path as deprived, unlocked all achievements for FF 13-2/Versus all in 12 years or so. Zelda count's as an RPG to me, I also played ragnarok and some artix games all to max levels averaging to at least 50 online. Wanna try have a fact battle?
That 61 disklikes must be elves
Ahahaha
Bet you it's those damn high elves
dylan thibodeau *high khajitis
I have not joined the elves! I am TRUE NORD!!
Nathaniel Wallace You're no "True Nord" you milk drinker!
I am glad that Talos, a Dragonborn, is like me, a Dragonborn who fought with the Empire! :)
Everyone thought that Nords should join the Stormcloack Rebellion, I didn't think that.
Breton.
Talos is not a nord.
Read this; www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1udgeh/talos_is_actually_three_guys_just_when_i_thought/, you can learn more about teslore is this subreddit as well.
Nords should join stormcloak and if you like talos why did you join empire -_-
The Empires better because If the Nords join the Empire the Empire can be United again and with the help of the Argonians, Red Guards, Bretons and Dunmer the Empire can destroy the Thalmor and Legalise the worship of Talos Throughout Tamriel.....the Rebellion is just to weaken the Empire and Skyrim for the Second Great War
I really love the ideas surrounding the oversouls, and how Talos is essentially like 5 dudes in total.
I come back to these series sets very often. Thank you for making them. I wish yall still made them
What about the giant Dwemer god-robot that Talos used against the Aldmeri Dominion - when did that happen?
"When"? Do you want the strict answer, or the Michael Kirkbride bullshit?
Why is Michael Kirkbride bullshit? He wrote half the lore.
Joe bob
MK is like a mad scientist crazy genuineness. I love reading about how The Wheel (the Aurbis) on it's side is The Tower.
Special Rabbit is special...
MK's writings have been used for every game in the series so far...it's hardly "bullshit", so much as it that the stories of each game are derived (based on) from his continued work.
(Edit): They were not originally used for Arena & Daggerfall, but since then, the Lore of both games has been slightly retconned to fit with MK's writings.
That happened later, when zurin arctus used his life force to fuel the mantilla (which is the gem that powers the numidium [the giant god-robot]). Some speculate that zurin made a sacrifice for this, but others claim that Talos tricked him into fueling it.
Great summary but only one version of the story. 'The Arcturian Heresy' paints a much darker, less heroic and more realistic picture of Tiber Septim and how he rose to power through deceit, intrigue and skilled political manoeuvring.
***** Looks like he didn't get to it after all.
Tlevids It's not the end of the season yet.
I agree :)
FOUL THALMOR PROPAGANDA
Tiber wasn't even necessarily a Nord, there's a lot of evidence that he was a Breton instead.
Awesome, thanks Shoddycast. Love this Lore series and can't wait for more!
10 years later and I still come back to these videos to reference things
your storytelling gives me the goosebumps :)
Talos guide you all! Hoorah!
Without a Question, if you guys had the only channel available on TH-cam I would still have the account set up. Awesome is not a fitting adj. for what you have done here. I am a LORE junkie and this is certainly well done and enjoyed. I THANK you all for the work you have put in to this and I hope you don't quit any time soon. I am a fan for sure and look forward to watching, re-watching, and then re-re-watching for a long time to come. History is great and a NEW history is just... Ok I am done gushing. Just giving respect and credit when it is earned.
By far the greatest one ShoddyCast has ever done! Great f@*king work guys!
Absolutely amazing. I have linked and linked and linked this series over the the last few days as we approach the official release of the Elder Scrolls Online. This series is MANDATORY viewing material for ANYONE just now entering the Elder Scrolls Universe for the first time.
Thank you so much for doing all this work. Keep it up! You and your team are incredible at what you do.
Uhhh no, at the battle of Sancre Tor, the Bretons sold out the Nords to Talos, and they were the ones who showed him the secret path, the Bretons betrayed the Nords, and Nords were impressed with Talos's skill so they joined him. If you read the book on this battle in Skyrim you can see that. And no the Imperials don't hate Talos at all, they are simply not allowed to openly worship him due to the white gold concordat Legate Rikke for instance still loves her God Talos.
Talos: *needs and army to take down one bastion*
Me as Dragonborn with ten thousands cheese in my magical pocket, while slauthering all living creatures that i can see all by myself: "We may both Dragonborn, but you disgust me"
Haaaaa well done Shoddy! Greeeeat stuff keep up the good work mate! You remind me of my History teacher from Middle School, the way he was telling the stories... its just you can't help it, but to sit down and listen, while imaging every bit he says in your head! May we have some more of this, YES PLEASE! :D
Thank you for reviving the ancient costume of Storytelling ...
From now on you shall be known as the Grandfather Storyteller :P
Not a single mention of Wulfharth or Zurin, the creation of the Mantella, Hjalti's birthplace, Tiber achieving CHIM and changing Cyrodiil's landscape.... Come on man.
mojonation1487 'Tis only Part 1 of 3, friend! XD
mojonation1487 Sounds like Imperial Cult propaganda to me
Hey ShoddyCast, you guys are awesome! I think we all appreciate all of the hard work you guys put into these lore series. Much
I hope we get to see the Akavir region in the future. At least as a spinoff if Tamrielans cannot travel there and the Akavir rarely travel to Tamriel(and survive)
Only reason why the Thalmor don't accept Talos as a Divine is because he whooped their ass all across Tameriel
Or he's stabilizing Mundus, keeping them from reattaining divinity.
And he's Lorkhans replacement.
JackH180 I don't personally subscribe to that theory. Unless you mean in the pantheon and not the mantling theory. Then I agree.
Yes, I meant pantheon wise.
mojonation1487 “Reattaining” is not how you say “fucking everyone over because they can’t bear being less then superior to everyone else”
Talos killed his own king because of his lust for power. He is a false god like the traitor Tribune. If you are looking for a true hero of Tamriels, it's Reman Cyrodil. He was a great leader and a man of honor. Even his enemies, the Akaviri served him.
you did Storytellers!!!! no way just left a comment saying how much i loved it and realised you did this i have seen all the videos mulitple times here is a huge thumbs up!!!!!!!
Couple of things... You have seriously the most calming voice I've ever heard. I don't know what it's about, but... Something about it is just... Relaxing. And, the other thing, I love the new art style, absolutely love it. A definite step up from last season. I mean, I liked that too, but this... This is something else entirely, and I adore it.
By Talos's beard, thank Savangard that Elder Scrolls Lore is back! ;)
Gaming4Life See now you had a chance,now you’ll never see *Sovngarde
I remember reading this SAME story (though abridged here) in Morrowind back in 2005-6 (iirc?).... which told the life story of Tiber Septim.
_ps: READ the books in Morrowind and Elder Scrolls in general.... AMAZING story. The Wolf Queen being another good one. DAMN Morrowin was such a good game_
ANYWAY... it was THAT story that I read over a decade ago in a game that released back in the early 2000s that got me SO EXCITED for TES V when it finally got announced and that the main character we would be playing as would be THE Dragonborn. When I read that story in the Morrowind game itself... the EPICNESS could not be described. Namely because this was my FIRST TES game and reading such a detailed lore story IN A GAME was something else. And the writing was SO GOOD.... it was so good that... even though this Lore Series by Shoodycast does a great job.... it almost PALES in comphresion to the actual source material/story in the game. Not a shot at Shoodycast AT ALL... it just that the lore books in Morrowind were told SO GOOD.
Glad to see this story told again in Lore Histories... even though I am a few years late to it. Or maybe I was a decade TOO early... hahaha
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Gen
That into sent shivers down my spine. Way better than ASMR.
I absolutely love the use of the new animated clips.
To make this even more epic, hear the music: "Tartalo Music - The Dark Age"(music becomes epic in the middle). All Hail Talos!
Didn't Talos spent time in High Rock during his childhood, where he learnt his great skills as an tactician? I'm quite sure it's speculated if he did that or grew up in Skyrim, so it should at least be mentioned.
David Björk read up on the heresy account of him. The details given here are imperial falsehood or embellishments.
It would be impossible for him to hail from altmora. It's stated that that land has frozen not just in temperature but time itself. The last wave of men left in the first era. He was likely breton, possibly nord father but the child takes after the mother in TeS.
@@JC_Denton_ I'm also fairly certain Talos is made up of three people.
@@JC_Denton_ Talos was a Nord.
This is a great improvement from the first season. No mere words can describ the awesomeness of this video, and hopefully (and most likely) the ones to come. Keep it up and may this series get even better.
Awesome. Really happy to find these series. Only thing, there's a picture of Talos walking the steps to High Hrothgar, with a statue of himself in the background. 4:05
Time for all you storm cloak fans to learn the truth about that empire your trying to overthrow
Stromcloaks are trying to succeed from an already overthrown Empire. The Thamor are trying to erase Lorkhan and Talos and all men. They believe they can become et'Ada again if they do....they are Nazis.
its still called the third empire not the fourth and there not nazis this was explained in the last episode and lorkhan is already dead talos replaced him and ever hear of neutral jing its where you wait and listen before striking basically buying time with a false peace untill you gain an adventage look up tidus meads back story he fought tooth an nail against the thalmer retook the imperial city and then signed a treaty he is or was obviously biding time gathering strength so to speak to overthrow the thalmer and take back his empire
Jay Y.
Lorkhan is dead but Talos mantled him to claim Lorkhan rightful place as Divine and Aedra. The High Elves believe if men ,Talos, and therefore Lorkhan can be erased then Mundus will go back to just the Aurbis and they can be et'Ada.
Dude its a video game and yes you should join the empire to put it back together restore it I've played both quest lines and I liked the imperial side better more strategic less killing of innocent guards of whiterun and ulfrics a jerk he treats the argonians like lesser citizens they've done nothing wrong and he doesn't let them enter the city and only pays them 8 septims a week and he's too occupied with a pointless war speak to have his guards do anything murder on the streets of his city and he doesn't even notice and worst of all he turned his back and betrayed the graybeards and his own religion he spent years as a graybeard learning what they consider sacred and for worship and he used it to murder the high king who held ulfric in such high regard that he would have just succeeded from the empire like hammerfell toryyg even worshiped talos and ulfric used the disarm shout and killed an unarmed man one of the most dishonorable things a warrior can do cut down an unarmed opponent
So yes ulfrics a jerk
For the Empire!
***** The Empire is the only chance Tamriel has against the Dominion. The Stormcloaks are playing right into the Thalmor's hand, tearing apart a unified front and making them easier to conquer.
I miss these!!!! Next to what fudgemuppet does, this series is the best series for lore in elder scrolls
I very much enjoy the use of actual character models! You guys have go this down to a science. Beautifully made. Keep it up and, HAIL SITHIS!
I don't think the Talos statue was at high hrothgar when Talos climbed the 7000 steps. Just a minor nitpick, but still a great video as always shoddy cast
why haven't they made a game about this!? how amazing it would be
Rusty Blade I just hope its not a fetch quest game ;)
+Syncretic Views "Fetch Skyrim"
Return to Talos
Fetch High Rock
Return to Talos :D
+Isaiah Velez Or an escort mission.
They should of did talos story as dlc for skyrim
Because elder scrolls has been all about creating your own person and building your own story that impacts a specific time in each era. Talos is pretty clearly defined. Even though there may be a little bit of ambiguity of his exact lineage based on the story you follow.
when I saw the first season of this I thought it was okay but could be better, but this is awesome, so props to you
Man, the way you tell Elder Scrolls Lore is just fabulous.
Read the Arcturian heresy a book in Skyrim, that paints a much more realistic version of talks and it also explains how he became a god, and before someone says he didn't if he wasn't a god then why does it work when u pray at his shrines and in oblivion there's sommat about getting the blood of a divine and you get Tiber septims who is Talos, whilst some people say the arcturian heresy isn't true put it this way there has to be some truth in it and it makes a hell of a lot more sense than all the other legends of talks which paint him as some sort of well perfect figure, this book however explains how he got the name of talos (his birth name was Hjalti Early Beard) and also I just realised the grey beards call you Ysmir who was also Talos, holy shit you're a reincarnation of talos, please let elder scrolls 6 be about the dragon born conquering like cyrodil or sommat, also how cool would it be if every dragon born was a reincarnation of the same soul Ik mirak kinda messed that theory up but still it's cool, like u do have an imortal soul after all
this story would make an awesome game!
Something to consider about Talos:
In Oblivion, a quest involving Talos's blood confirms that his blood is divine.
The first Empress, Allesia, was given Dragon's Blood and the Amulet of Kings by Akatosh. The Amulet of Kings can only be used by the true Emperor or those of the Allesian Line. The Amulet worked with Talos.
Talos/Tiber Septim was a Dragonborn when he began his conquest of Tamriel.
The Dragonborn has the blood/souls of dragons.
Dragons are the sons of Akatosh/Lesser Aedra. This makes Dragons divine.
Ere go, Talos was an Aedra. Take that, Thalmor.
Et'Ada status is needed to be Aedra. Talos didn't sacrifice his immortality to make the realm, nor did he abstain, therefore he is neither. He's a creation of Akatosh, but that doesn't make him an aspect of Akatosh.
Also mantlimg of lorkan
And Chim
This details the empires and nords view on tiber septim. I guess you could say it's is embellished
Before he was a god, Talos was the brainchild of 3 individuals: a young (breto-)Nord named Hjalti, an Ancient Nord Zombie Ghost King named Wulfharth, and later on an Imperial Battlemage named Zurin Arctus.
Hjalti was Dragonborn, and after being proclaimed as such by the Greybeards, attracted the attention of Wulfharth. Wulfharth saw in him a vessel he could use to once again gain sway in the world of mortals and take revenge on his hated merethic enemies, most notably the Dunmer. So he lent Hjalti his power, essentially acting as a guardian aura that amplified Hjalti's skills and thu'um to incredible levels extremely quickly.
Southwestern Skyrim was plagued by war with the Cyrods at this time. A Colovian warlord named Cuhlecain was in the middle of a campaign to gainlands around the approximate regions of Falkreath and parts of the Reach. Wulfharth-powered-Hjalti joined up with this force and quickly gained fame and renown amongst the soldiers of both sides for his incredible prowess in battle and propensity for the thu'um. Wulfharth would manifest as a stormcloud of ash around him in combat, making him untouchable to his enemies, and he was given the name Talos, meaning "Stormcrown."
Hjalti was soon given command of Cuhlecain's forces, and the legend of General Talos began to spread. This is the beginning of the concept that would later become a god. A man who others think is a man but is actually more than one man. Now with the benefits of fame and notoriety, Hjalti began to attract the attention of other powerful figures of the time. One of them was Cuhlecain's battlemage, Zurin Arctus. There isn't a whole lot formally written about the relationship between Hjalti, Arctus, and Wulfharth, but it's pretty safe to assume that before long Arctus was let in on the secret of the reality behind General Talos and how he could manage to be larger-than-life.
Cuhlecain's forces won the war in Skyrim largely due to his invincible superhero general and eventually managed to take the Imperial City and consolidate all Cyrodiil under the banner of the man who would later come to be known as Emperor Zero. The campaign was over for now, but this was only the beginning of the legacy of Talos. Wulfharth had big plans for his protege, Hjalti was ready for anything the world could throw at him, and Arctus was eager to be in on the action, seeing a much more capable potential ruler than the current Emperor he served.
Not long into his reign Cuhlecain was assassinated and General Talos was crowned Tiber Septim, Emperor of Cyrodiil. The official story after the fact is that Cuhlecain was assassinated by a Breton Nightblade as vengeance enacted by the High Rock aristocracy for their defeat in the battle for the Reach, and that General Talos' throat was cut while attempting to defend his emperor from the assassin. The apocryphical, and much cooler story, is that the assassination was an orchestrated power play by the three masterminds of the Talos legacy as a way to take control of the Ruby Throne.
The part about the throat being cut serves a dual purpose. Not only does it serve to add credibility to the now-named Tiber Septim's innocence, but also to allow the first real instance of Talos being more than one man. Busy with consolidating and stabilizing his rule over Cyrodiil, Tiber sends Wulfharth to take charge of the campaign to conquer the rest of Skyrim, High Rock, and Hammerfell. Wulfharth masquerades under the guise of the Emperor, but keeps a low profile and does not speak to reveal himself, explained away by the throat-slitting story. Regardless, this still leads to situations where the Emperor appears to be in more than one place at the same time, which further adds to the legendary mystique of Talos and his superhuman abilities.
Anyway, once the lands of men are conquered and under the Imperial Banner, it's time for Wulfharth to go after what his eye has been set on since the First Era, and the whole reason he lent his power to Hjalti and Arctus in the first place: Morrowind. Both Tiber and Arctus are hesitant to indulge him however, unsure of whether they can truly stand against the power of ALMSIVI. Wulfharth is persistent however, tempting the Emperor with promises both of Vvardenfel's rich ebony reserves and that the power of the Tribunal once they're vanquished can be repurposed to aid in the taking of Alinor, a seemingly insurmountable target Tiber had never even had a plan to defeat. The original plan was for Arctus to act as a diplomatic emissary towards the High Elven Dominion and simply form a treaty of nonaggression.
But Wulfharth wanted the blood of elves, and Septim wanted the blood of Lorkhan, and so the invasion of Morrowind began. But it didn't end as the Underking wanted it to. After fighting to a standstill with their armies, Tiber and Vivec decide to settle matters personally. It's anyone's guess as to what crazy shit actually went down in their encounter, but it ended with an Armistice. Morrowind kept its sovereignty as a client state of the Empire, payed tribute to Cyrodiil in the form of access to the ebony mines, and the Tribunal lived on as rulers of their domain. This made Wulfharth furious. The whole reason he involved himself in this affair to begin with was to obliterate the elves, and now his minions have subverted his wishes and gone behind his back to ally with his ancient enemies. He withdraws all the power he had previously been using to aid Tiber and Talos is now just one man with a wise and powerful advisor, the dynamic duo of Septim and Arctus.
But here a temporary third player enters the stage: Vivec, and he has a complete game-changer. See, Numidium's been sitting around in Morrowind this whole time and he hasn't had much use for it. So he offers it to his new ally as a show of good faith to use as he will. With the Brass God of the Dwemer on the table, suddenly Alinor doesn't seem so out of reach. Perhaps an Empire will finally rule all of Tamriel after all. The only thing left that they need is a way to power it, but the Heart of Lorkhan is off-limits. Arctus comes up with an alternative though. The soul of a Shezzarine should act as a viable substitute for the purpose they want to serve. And wouldn't you know it, he's got just the guy in mind. He designs a special soul gem dubbed the Mantella large enough to contain Wulfharth's soul. All that's left is to place the bait and set the trap. Tiber Septim calls Wulfharth to the Imperial City once again, claiming he's reconsidered and wishes to beg forgiveness and conquer the Dunmer in earnest.
Wulfharth bites.
When the trap is sprung and their intentions to soultrap him become clear, Wulfharth flies into a rage. Arctus succeeds in casting the spell, but Wulfharth blasts him into ash at the same time. They obliterate each other and their souls intermingle, Wulfharth going into the mantella and Arctus mixing with his ashen remains, what's left of him becoming the new Underking. The Emperor is the only one of the trio behind the Talos brainchild left standing, says "Well that worked out well for me," takes his prize and fits it into the Numidium.
And this is where the power of the Divine first comes into play.
When Tiber Septim powers up the Numidum with the Mantella, the souls inside it merge with the own part of himself he gives to it. The Numidium sees the history of Talos, this myth comprised of three individuals working together to create something greater than themselves, an illusion more powerful than any one man could ever hope to be. But the Numidium is not concerned with such trivial things as the limitations of reality. It takes all the things about Talos that had previously just been a story and realizes them, beaming them into the Emperor. Tiber Septim is no longer just himself. He sees the world in triple parallax, twice-dimensionalized upon his former point of view. Controlling his robot god, he conquers Alinor, the last obstacle, and gains absolute power. The Red King is now on the path to godhood. With no war left to wage, he can now focus on improving the lives of his new subjects. He achieves CHIM. He reshapes Cyrodiil. He rules the Empire in an unprecedented age of prosperity for another 40 years, living to be over a century.
The imprint the Three-Headed Emperor leaves on the Mundus is not one of a mortal man. Numidium saw to that. It took three and merged them into one. It took the illusion of Talos and made it a reality. Talos now presides over the world as a force of sheer power in emulation of the other Divine spirits of myth, not limited by death.
There was, however, one loose end that remained. Zurin Arctus was not fully contained or destroyed in the Mantella. His mortal energy and life force was, but his consciousness remained separate and did not merge with Tiber like Ysmir did. Instead, he was bound to the now vacant ash of Wulfharth as an undead scourge, and swore vengeance on the Empire. But that's a story that can be read elsewhere.
Praise the Talos! Who is both men and divine!
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It is a REALLY smart choice to put the like annotation in the middle of the video, I always forget to like some videos but with this technique u can be sure I'll like each and every single video of yours.
Are you sure Talos wasn't a Breton from Alcaire?
he was a redguard from hegathe. it is known
it is actually known that hes a cave bear from valenwood
No Talos is Maiq the Liar.
The empire is stronger than the storm cloaks and have a much better chance to defeat the dominion. Storm cloaks don't believe in magic and that is their downfall. Everyone knows an army of warriors can easily fall to an army of wizards.
But they have the Thu'um. Ulfric received training from the Greybeard in the way of the voice. He was supposed to become one of them but he ended up quitting to fight in the civil war.
sancturillore Ulfric only knows 1 full Shout.
None of the other Nords in the whole Stormcloak army know any Shouts (and it takes a very long time to master them, so they wouldn't have time for it)
For that matter, the Greybeards don't teach the Thu'um to soldiers. Soldiers are people of war, in contrast to the pacifistic Way of the Voice the Greybeards practice.
So yeah...the only real magic-user they really have on their side is Wuunferth the Unliving, and the Nords of the very city he lives in are suspicious of him.
Not to mention that despite the fact that the College of Winterhold is in Stormcloak-held territory, it's neutral in the Civil War.
(Edit): Not saying that the Thu'um isn't Magic...just having 1 non-Dragonborn user who knows only 1 Shout isn't nearly enough.
sancturillore Ulfric also betrayed the way of the voice when he used his shout for PERSONAL gain in murdering Torygg. He uses the 30 year old issue of the ban Talos worship to inspire nationalism for his own gain. He does not deserve to be high king.
Wesley Leytem How about you read my comment correctly before responding to it? I never said anything about me supporting Ulfric. Actually, I am also against Ulfric becoming High King. You should also read the comment I was responding to. Because if you did, you would understand that I was simply responding against the supposed supremacy of the Dominion in battle against the Nords because of magic.
sancturillore I don't think he said you were. He was just listing more details about Ulfric.
Read a little more carefully, instead of following the immediate emotional response.
(Edit): "Strength and Steel are well and good, but Magic is the true power in this world."
^ This is said by a Nord, even (Wuunferth the Unliving)
I love watching your lore vids, your voice stays steady and you don't stutter. Usually when I watch vids I don't pay much attention but you somehow keep my attention. I always look forward to your vids.
I'm a bit behind the curve, but this is excellent work. I'm living and breathing Skyrim right now, and this will be my new Netflix for a while.
I love this series and I do tend to learn a lot of things I didn't know beforehand. Well, now that the obligatory pleaseantries are taken care of, time to nit-pick. :p
2:40 You said that the Reachmen are now known as the Forsworn. Although a lot of Reachmen are in fact part of the Forsworn, saying that every Reachman is would be a highly inaccurate statement. The Forsworn are a group of Daedra worshipping fanatics who regularly indulge in animal and human sacrifice while aggressively trying to kick everyone who isn't them out of the Reach so that they can rule it themselves. Reachmen are simply the mostly Breton people who are it's natives (although when it comes to the races of Tamriel, calling any race derived from elves and humans is in and of itself incorrect :p)
Aye, I thought I might get better information than that of Heimskr
I don't know what happened there... I love Lore Series thank so much ShoddyCast! :D
It's also said that Talos was the one who killed the King of Falkreath so he could sit on the throne like the prophecy told. He then cut his own throat, maybe by guilt but then still lived, realizing he had to do bad to achive good. Some book said that anyway
I just had a bit of an idea about talos. He's technically a dragon in human form, has the soul and blood of a dragon, therefor the blood of a lesser Aedra... What if instead of ascending into godhood, he simply went into Atherious like Alduin did when he died? And the current dragonborn is the Reincarnation of Tiber Septim? Since the soul of a dragon is eternal and can come back from the beyond to nirn. Is that a possibility? anyone?
leon00778 but what i'm wondering if there's a possibility that the dragonborn, the real dragonborn reincarnates on regular basis in different form. It really got me thinking since dragons can do that and the dragonborn IS a dragon in a human form.
So the Dragonborn is like the Avatar? Sweet.
Thor Odinson No. More like the dragons or perhaps closer to daedra in this regard, whenever they die, they are never truly destroyed, his physical form is destroyed and his essence is drawn back to atherius for reconstitution. the daedra are similar in nature.
But the Dragon Soul inhabits another mortal body right?
Thor Odinson Not exactly. It is merely brought back to nirn from atherious. the body it inhabits was meant to be its body before it came into existence. everything such as this is predetermined by the 8 (or 9) divines. the dragonborn, like the graybeards said could actually be sent by the gods in time of need. so the dragonborn might be a champion of the gods meant to protect mundus on their behalf.
4:05 why is there a statue of him already?
Man you are AWESOME! I watched season 1 in 1 day because I started to watch them only yesterday so I wanted to get into season 2 as fast as possible :D LoL Nice work man keep it up.
i have many names
hjalti early-beard in high rock, talos stormcrown or ysmir in skyrim, tiber septim in cyrodiil and all of tamriel, talos when i stand by the divines, and ''A random guy who achieved CHIM'' with my bro vivec
Hjalti Early-Beard aka Tiber Septim my favourite comment right here. The vivec part adds a sweet touch
Am i the only one who chose to be an imperial, but fought with the storkcloaks against the empire, and killed timer septim II?
Titus Mede II
mojonation1487 Oh, sorry. I always get emperors of the empire mixed up, silly me.
Where's the Underking? And what about his affair with Barenziah? Seems like it is strictly the Nord's version of the story.
I was thinking about the banning of the believe of talos in the empire by the aldmeri dominion. I came up with the following idea. What if the aldmeri dominion only decided to ban the believe in talos through the empire beecause they knew that the nords would never except that. The empire would be weaker when one of the provinces would rebel right? Maybe the aldmeri dominion would be preparing for another 'Great war'. High elfs have a lifespan that's about a thousand years, so they could wait until the Nords would rebel against the empire, while the empire was weakend the aldmeri dominion could invade Cyrodiil again. Food for thought, isnt this?
i was amazed with the improvements from the first season within the first 30 seconds of this video!! I absolutely LOVE your lore series and cant wait to see more! keep up the great work!
LONG LIVE TALOS, LONG LIVE SKYRIM, LONG LIVE THE NORDS!!!
Long live the Empire OF TALOS
Wasn't his birth name Hijalti?
yeah its that
He's also three people
Depends on which story you listen to
I hate you!! I just watched the whole of season one of the lore series so I was up to speed with the second. Now I'm finding every spare minute I have playing skyrim and actually understanding the whole back story. Got me fricken addicted again :/
This was FANTASTIC! Well done, gentlemen!