Garbage Truck and Monaro collide in tight Melbourne street - But who is at fault?
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Description: "Rubbish truck hit a parked car in Melbourne on 16/08/22."
For all the people saying that the street is narrow because of council greed or a lack of planning perhaps fail to realise that the streets in this area of Melbourne are at least 70 years old and date from a time when cars were both smaller and far fewer in number. The solution here would be to remove on-street parking from one side of the street and realign the markings accordingly.
Totally agree!
I thought you couldn’t park opposite unbroken white lines?
@cookiemonster "a bright yellow stationary vehicle" lol
Who wants to park can do it on their own property, not on a public road.
Or...just make it rule to park on the nature strip or have half the car on the strip!!! Having lived in these area before, i've had times where l couldn't even enter my own street all because a stupid council were fining people for parking on the on the nature trip!!!
At fault are the urban planners and city councillors for allowing on-street parking on both sides of such narrow streets.
And allowing trucks through narrow streets?
@@jerrygrey996 Yes it is, he's legally parked as per the sign.
@@mkvector9539 You have another solution for refuse collection?
@@mkvector9539 you think residents would carry their rubbish to a larger street?
This is in Glen Eira, where most streets were laid out a century ago or more. No giant rubbish trucks or wheelie bins back then. And most traffic engineers will happily remind you that streets are for moving traffic, not act as a defacto car park.
Monaro is behind the 'No Standing' sign, and tyres are pretty close to the kerb before the truck drags him sideways - so he's legally parked. Grey Ford is also legally parked, and the oncoming cars are reasonably close to the kerb. Garbo apparently didn't use his left mirror to check his clearance to the 'bright yellow obstruction', and hit the stationary, legally parked car, so it'll all be on him.
I agree. That's an expensive fuck up. At least the Monaro is repairable. However the Garbo didn't stop straight away but managed to pull up on the other side of the roundabout. Monaro driver didn't look very impressed at all given that the car is a modern classic and is worth a lot of money. And I wouldn't be impressed either if that was me in that situation. The Garbo had room to go a little wide across the centre line to avoid the vehicle provided that he pays attention to oncoming traffic. Having said that, the cars coming the opposite direction would have to move over a little to give the Garbo some room. Makes sense? I think it does. Hopefully the owner of the Monaro will have his vehicle repaired and back on the road as soon as possible. Garbo will have to cough up.
Victorian Road Safety Rules 2017 reg 208(6) If the road has a continuous dividing line or a dividing strip, the driver must position the vehicle at least 3 metres from the continuous dividing line or dividing strip, unless otherwise indicated by information on or with a parking control sign.
Both cars illegally parked.
@@justwhy2484 fair enough. As Brian stated in his above comment. That Monaro was legally parked and close to the gutter within the parking lines behind the no standing sign. The Garbo obviously wasn't watching what he was doing and therefore clipped the Monaro and then felled a small tree afterwards for his trouble. Says a bit about his driving. That Monaro had every right to be parked there where he was. Although the incident wasn't helped by the fact that the street is a little narrow for a Garbo to go down without too much trouble. That street wasn't really designed to have trucks and cars go down it.
@@arendeepropertymaintenance doesn't appear that way. It seems the cars are legally allowed to park on that street. Of course that incident wasn't helped by the fact that the street was narrow and only caters for cars and not trucks. That's how I see it.
Considering the truck driver hit the tree, i'm going to question his driving ability.
I know aye FMD no idea how to drive a truck 😂
Good to see you’re so perfect. He was obviously stressed after side swiping the car and looking for somewhere to park on a tiny street. The council shouldn’t allow people to park that close to the roundabout, otherwise this never would have happened!
He was probably shocked and not paying attention to the branch above him. The tree was overhead, while he remained on the road. Councils have it in their bylaws that they need to cut down branches in that sort of position anyway. No serious harm done. Every driver makes a mistake and this was an acceptable mistake as a one-off.
Legally you're not supposed to park within 20 ft
@@jasonderp5933 You can see where the "no standing" sign is to indicate where you can park... The Monaro was parked legally so not a problem
Well in the truck driver's defense, it's not like the Monaro was bright f%^&*n yellow or anything.
The risk you take parking a dark coloured car in an unlit part of town at night;)
It's defence not defense
@@swinetrek I knew that!! I just wanted to know if yoou knew that.
@@TC-yx2ss If your car somehow doesn't have park lights.
The motorcyclist in me is blaming the little blue car! I'd have been much further to my left and not bottlenecking the truck into the Holden, not just because I am considerate but because I don't particularly want to get hit myself...
Had to dig through replies to find this. Finally someone has some situational awareness
yeah i was looking at the solid metre between the matchbox car and the gutter thinking the same thing!
My conclusion too.
I agree, the blue car certainly didn't make it easy for the truck. But at the end of the day, the truck was the only moving vehicle. So entirely his fault.
@@KeppyKep correct. Ignore this other bloke with his risk 'elimination'. That would just be having no one drive anywhere.
An accident occurred, and the truck driver was at fault. That's all
Imagine having to drive a big ass truck through those narrow-ass streets all day. Good job to whoever thought of planning a road that is only wide enough to fit one lane of traffic with cars parked on both sides. See this shit too often.
They do make narrower trucks now
Well, both cars were illegally parked, so there is that, but hitting a stationary vehicle makes it a bit dodgy.
Narrow streets in all the new estates, it's ridiculous.
Stuff the garbo trucks, what happens when a fire truck or ambulance has to get through.
But I'm sure some fat cat has decided the widths are to specification. Absolute joke.
Considering this is in Glen Eira and is inner city Melbourne, this roads been there since before trucks
Streets are too narrow deal with it, That's what mirrors are for, cant fit reverse simple as that. Hitting cars not using your mirrors typical BUM..
The Monaro driver seems calmer than l would be. As much as you repair it, it will never be original
Probably hadn't had enough time for it to sink in. Had to try to talk to the Garbo before he drove off!
Reminds me of getting side-swiped by a giant horse float at a round-a-bout. Lick of paint and rearview got shoved forward momentarily, but nothing terrible compared to this.
As a former Garbo I can sympathize with this bloke. While technically he was at fault for the car, my experience with councils, Vic roads and Parks Victoria says that if the waste collection company complained about both the parking and the low tree branches, those complaints would be instantly dismissed, regardless of the obvious danger to the public. In Mentone for example, there is a gum tree branch about a foot thick over the road on a bend, forcing the truck drivers to move over the middle line (toward oncoming traffic) to avoid it, Kingston council received a number of complaints from at least two garbage collection companies for more than a decade and it is still there to this day because "the residents might complain".
Electric chainsaws are a thing of beauty
Greta Garbo ? Yes l liked her as well !
I hear you, we have large gum tree branches above power lines, no matter how much we complain the council has never cut them. As the droop down over time eventually they come to rest on the power lines then as they rub backwards and forwards over time they cut through and drop to the ground. Ridiculous.
They've go a solution for that! Put up a sign warning of low-hanging branches! Those signs are near me.
I think the car is at fault for parking too close the unbroken centre line, near the intersection, same as illegally parked car other side of the road. So, if you're illegally parked and get hit, it's your fault and likely not covered by insurance. The fault of the garbage truck driver is only in not stopping to make sure others not injured and to exchange particulars
everyone on the Facebook post was giving the Monaro so much shit for being illegally parked, but he's not? He's right before the no stopping zone. I honestly think facebook comments should always be turned off for DCOA, the people on there are so abusive and always victim blame.
It's because facebook is full of boomers
@@Scottyy788 stop being racist
I also noticed that on both sides of the road just before the roundabout, one end of a painted parallel parking spot is painted, but then there's no other end painted closer to the roundabout. I guess the no standing signs denote the far end of the parking area? Personally I haven't seen that kind of thing before, usually if one end is painted then so is the other, unless there's an obvious barrier like a protruding kerb. Agree that Monaro is legally parked, providing his nose was behind the sign.
@@Scottyy788 someone say rude words to you sookum's. Hahaha
I really don't miss the toxicity on their Facebook page anymore and if their TH-cam page is anything to go by, its a lot more "upper-class" lmao I legit got banned on their fb page for sticking up for another member of the page after the admin was an ass hole to her lmao. 🤣
Some streets in Australia are so poorly planned its pure cancer
Almost no streets were planned in Melbourne or Sydney (probably Brisbane either)
that's just anyone in a government or council position
I mean you're playing with fire parking that close to a roundabout when theres also a car on the other side... If its not an illegal park the truck is still at fault though.
Am I allowed to crash into illegally parked cars?
Truck is still at fault illegally parked or not, they have the higher duty of care to avoid a collision
The cars on the other side had come to a stop to allow the truck through.
@@Nutsaur Not illegally parked
@@Nutsaur If you're a famous or powerful person, sure.
You cannot park on the side of the road when there is less than three meters between the edge of your car and the center-line, or the other side of the road (on narrow roads). The Monaro was parked with less than three meters between it and that line so that is against the road rules. Note how the marked car parks are located in an area of the road without a center-line? The center-line is near the intersections to keep them clear to allow safe passage of traffic, which unfortunately the Monaro driver didn't do. The truck should not have crashed into it however, so maybe the Micra was coming at it or jammed it who knows as I cannot tell.
The 3 metre rule only applies if the dividing line is continuous. There is a break in the dividing line which can be seen between the yellow and blue cars. Also, there is a No Standing sign just ahead of where the car was parked - which legitimises the location where the yellow car was legally parked.
@@AnotherDoug Where the car was parked the line was continuous as the line was coming from the roundabout. You can't park that close to the intersection industrial by the continuous line. The gap in the line was behind the car (or at the rear of it). Common sense - why would he stop there? Theres no room.
A good driver would’ve known not to park there lmao
Too many parked cars on the streets now, leaving 2 lanes of carriage way down to a single two way lane, and not enough room for large bin trucks etc.
The council of the area is at fault for allowing parking on such narrow streets
Not a council truck nor is it even Melbourne council
Why do councils allow narrow streets? It's their greed.
@@MelbourneGarbo. don’t it say tight MELBOURNE street so it’s Melbourne council decision to allow parking on them narrow roads
@@rickeyeversen4420 plenty of councils within in the Melbourne metro area. This is Glen Eira council
@@BadDriversOz the new suburbs are worse, so that's a lame excuse.
Truck driver at fault, but between the Monaro and Micra drivers, this was an accident waiting to happen. What would happen if a fire truck needed to get through?
Also just cause someone hits your car doesn't give you the right to walk all over the road.
gee i dunno, guess they might.... move for the fire truck, a garbage truck is NOT an emergency vehicle and has no special privileges
@@tom5051666 common sense courtesy >>> rigid rules
Not sure about that. The bloke underestimated the size of his vehicle, was travelling too fast and he crashed into a parked car. Pretty stupid.
Am a firie, in situations like this we are told to just push the cars out of the way if it isn't going to jeopardise other motorists, tell the boss and it's their issue to sort out
@@wazaagbreak-head6039 Garbage truck is not an emergency vehicle.
Since the car isn't moving, and the truck ran into it, that's the truck's fault.
No way!
By law your not allowed to stop or park any closer than 10 mtr from a corner so the commodore is actually at fault.
Look at the no stopping sign before the roundabout sign, commodore driver may not be at fault here the car was well behind the no stopping zone as indicated by the arrow on the sign
@@aussiecamperman8382 That's not how it works. You can't run into visible stationary objects even if they are in the wrong location.
And the truck runs into a few trees down the road
The truck is at fault. The Monaro was stationary on the side of the road. The Monaro was parked/stationary within the designated lines. The truck should have stopped and waited for the blue and silver cars to backup on the opposite side of the road to move before continuing to the roundabout.
Both cars illegally parked. Can't park next to a solid white line, or 20 metres from an intersection entry. 10m on exit.
@@arendeepropertymaintenance Theres quite clearly a no standing sign before the roundabout, which the Monaro is parked before. The truck is at fault, but thats why its called an "accident". Roads too tight, cars parked both sides, shit happens share details and move on.
Monaro parked illegally. Parking spots clearly marked in the street behind it. However, truck driver has no right to hit even an illegally parked vehicle.
@@arendeepropertymaintenance "both"? What other car makes up "both"?
All car's were illegally parked and those 2 car's on the other side of the road no one was in them
The council is to blame. We have lots of stupidly tight streets in my area of Sydney and they’re just asking for issues like this. I can only imagine what it’s like to navigate a truck like this, with the driver often on the left side of the cab, having to dodge all the parked cars.
not when they start filling streets with duplexes
This was in Melbourne
Same where I live, new estates have 2 lane streets and people park on both sides overnight, hell even during the day at times, streets are a nightmare for anything bigger than a van, I hate to think what happens when a fire truck needs to get through.
@@dallasgrant firetrucks got them steel bumpers! I'd almost love to see that!
@@RexColt I know its Melbourne, I'm just saying I know the frustration of poorly planned residential streets and I'm not even a truck driver.
Truck should not have attempted to drive on when the way forward was obstructed.
When I saw the title I guessed Monaro at fault- generally when you have a run in with a garbage truck it's your fault.. they move slowly and are pretty hard to miss... This one though was just flying down the narrow street and clipped a parked car. Whether the car should have been there or not is beside the point- garbage truck didn't even attempt to slow down to navigate the narrow space. No one should be going that fast down obstructed roads anyway where the visibility is do poor- I would be worried about hitting someone crossing the road who hadn't seen me coming from behind all the parked cars!!!
Or what about kids running out onto the street.. it's just completely reckless driving.
Unless there is a sign saying that you can, you are not allowed to park, stop or leave your vehicle within 10 metres of: either side of an intersection without traffic lights. either side of a safety zone. Monaro shouldn't have been there
@@bernielennox1031 or opposite the unbroken white lines. they are there for a reason. amazes me how few people know this
@@bernielennox1031 The presence of the No Stopping sign implies that you can park behind it. Whoever decided that people should be permitted to park vehicles in such a narrow street is an idiot and should be sacked, but there's implied permission to park. You don't spend the money to put up No Stopping signs, and don't then use them to denote all the no stopping areas.
@@bernielennox1031 Beside the point whether Monaro should have been there. You can't plough through a child running out onto the street and claim that the child shouldn't have been there. If you have the ability to stop and avoid the accident then you have a responsibility to do so. That truck driver just drove down the street like s/he was the only one on the road.
@@bernielennox1031
So, if you need a new wing or a headlight, you should just find an illegally parked car and ram it?
Thanks, mate! 😆
The fault lies with council for allowing developers to build such ridiculously small streets.
"NOT the MONARO !! .. I just vacuumed the exhaust pipe .."
Council's fault (and truck drivers) - the "No Stopping" sign pointing the other way suggests you can park there, but in fact you can't because you need to leave a 3m clearance to the solid line markings in the middle of the road. Council would claim he was illegally parked, however he could argue that given the presence of the sign "any reasonable person" would assume it's ok to park behind it....
That sort of stuff is tough on truck drivers - but if you don't know if you have room you stop rather than ploughing through cars (unless you're in a fire engine responding to a call).
Besides, who said he was parked? He was just making sure nobody was in the roundabout. Truck driver illegally overtook.
Only need to leave clearance “unless otherwise indicated” such as by the parking bay lines and signage that says parking there is legal.
The 3 metre rule only applies if the dividing line is continuous. There is a break in the dividing line which can be seen between the yellow and blue cars. Also, there is a No Standing sign just ahead of where the car was parked - which legitimises the location where the yellow car was legally parked.
@@AnotherDoug "Continuous dividing line or a dividing strip" - Island and lines around it are a dividing strip. The parking bays maybe changes things (the law is actually unclear on that - 208.6 only mentions parking control signs signs, and 208.9 mentions road markings, but seems to suggest it relates to angle parking) - and I hadn't noticed them originally. The sign doesn't mean anything - just because you can't park forward of the sign doesn't actually mean you can behind it. That said, if you got booked parking and took it to court you would probably (successfully) argue "any reasonable person would assume if it explicitly says 'No Standing' in one direction then it must be ok to park in the other direction, but technically the sign pointing the other way doesn't mean you can in the other direction
@@TheDocSRKA "unless
otherwise indicated by information on or with a parking control sign"
Doesn't mention parking bays (there is bays mentioned in another subrule, but that seems to suggest it applies angle parking). While there is a sign there, it only shows that you can't park in one direction not that you can in the other. In any case my original point is it's partly the local council's fault for creating the situation (although the collision itself is the truck's fault).
Poor choice to park your car there considering it's legal or not, because well this video sums it up
Truck 100% the fact there’s oncoming traffic and the truck is still trying to push his way through was silly 🙃
Got a job to do.
Typical truck driving flog
@@wade4699 Flog or not, he’s still got a job to do. Get rid of your own garbage and the trucks are gone
@@iDrive123 Most garbo drivers are flogs , but i suppose they hire rubbish to collect rubbish
@@iDrive123 but is hanging back for a few seconds to let a car or two through really that much of a problem? I don't see why the bin truck drivers gotta be in such a rush all the time. The traffic is a pain the arse but still, being patient sometimes has gotta be better than ending up on youtube getting blamed for a prang 😆
They may've been legally parked but man that is tight with a car on either side on a fairly busy street.
The car on the other side isn't parked, just stopped. And it's stopped too far to the right
no worries, some eucalyptus oil and it will rub out.
Regardless of how the Monaro is parked it's up to the truck to judge that there is enough room to pass a stationary vehicle without a collision.
@SaltyBrains not sure if you're replying to me but if you think I said the Monaro is blameless you need to get your glasses checked.
A few years ago, a nearby council, with similarly narrow streets, carved (for want of a better word) sections out of the grassed areas next to the foot path, for cars to park.
Traffic hazards, anxious garbage truck drivers, parking problems.. Solved.
That sounds good. It would be good if sections of the grassed areas are carved out in more similar narrow streets. Or people could park their vehicles on the grass instead of on the road.
@@kyrollos0208 Yes, it's neat and tidy, and there is still space for the footpath.
They have the light rail going through their area, and had to stop on street parking, on the main road.
It's not every day I congratulate a council for their foresight, but credit where credit is due.
@@jasonayres While they're at it put the power underground, rates would go up but so would home values.
Ooh, difficult one...!
Reckon the driver of the garbo truck should have stopped & asked the dopey parker to "please move, we can't get through".
Conversely, dopey in the Monaro should NOT have parked/stopped there, as he had seriously affected the width of road available to other road-users.
(A car or tradie's ute could probably have got through ok, but a larger truck [ or a garbo truck], not a chance.
It was just a wee bitty silly of Mr. Garbo trying to get through, and he was going far too fast, he should have "edged" through...."The Garbo must get through" (Shades of the Pony Express, "The Mail must get through".)
The people that suggested that the yellow monaro was at fault or at least partially, you're all wrong! It's legally parked as the road signage suggests...have a look people!!
Hat's off to the Dash Cam car managing to record the whole incident... Talk about right place right time!
damn shame, a beautiful Monaro all buggered up. Garbo was not cautious enough in his manoeuvring. A tight fit but still he was not cautious enough.
Hits the tree when pulling over too. One of those days...
When I got my licence, a long time back now, I recall a law that says you must not park parallel within 12 ft, (approx 4 metres), of an unbroken centreline. Is that still a thing?
Sad about the Monaro.
You must not park within 20m of an intersection with traffic lights, unless a sign says you can. You must not park within 10m of an intersection without traffic lights, unless: a sign says you can
Monaro was in a designated park and not moving.
Usually, 10 meters is about the end of the solid white line from the intersection
@@justincondello like I said, long time, 56 years and also New South Wales. From looking at the clip I don't think I'd be parking my valuable car in that position be it lawful or not. It has been said, "It's not who's in the right that counts, it's what's left after the incident/accident". The trucker was careless in his run through but it's not his truck that'll need repairs.
@@jasonderp5933 The rule is you can't stop within 10 metres of an uncontrolled intersection. Yellow car was outside the 10 metres. Also, there is a No Standing sign just ahead of where the car was parked - which legitimises the location where the yellow car was legally parked.
I love that he then goes and hits a tree as he’s pulling over lol
probably just the branches
@@jeremysun7365 exactly, goes and hits a tree
The council has failed to leave more than 3 metres for parking near an unbroken line (See rule 208 of the Victorian Road Safety Road Rules 2017). However the truck driver was also negligent in his action of crossing over an unbroken line to pass the Monaro, he should have stopped and waited for all on coming traffic to pass before proceeding to the intersection.
There no space to stop in his lane without crossing the centreline.
The 3 metre rule only applies if the dividing line is continuous. There is a break in the dividing line which can be seen between the yellow and blue cars. Also, there is a No Standing sign just ahead of where the car was parked - which legitimises the location where the yellow car was legally parked.
@@AnotherDoug no, the single small break isn't going to let yellow off here. The sign is no standing but the yellow car was in a no parking zone. You can see the unbroken line ends for the nearby marked parking spaces.
Lmao that title, should be "Garbage Truck Hits Parked Monaro" not sure how the driver of the blue car couldn't read the situation and move closer to the kerb though, oblivious.
What an amazing accomplishment for the council who approved that street, and whoever handed over the licence.
The Council members who approved that street probably all died over 130 years ago - motor vehicles were not a consideration
@@AnotherDoug more whoever allowed parking on both sides
Oh that poor Monaro 🥺 must've been worth a fortune before the truck hit it 🤦
I guess 30k is a fortune to some people. They share too many parts with a commodore to become worth 'a fortune'
Truck is at fault, and council need to move the "no standing" sign back from the round about
yes truck driver is at fault so is the Manaro driver. regardless of what and where the sign is, he is illegally parked, his parked less than 2.5 meters from an unbroken line...Check the rule book regarding this.
@@Ausmerica The law is 3m
Don't be silly, the council will have to spend some money, putting up a new pole!
Truck should have waited for the blue car to move over to the side of the road more before driving through
Garbo had plenty of room...still could've been a good foot to his right and missed not only the blue car but also the Monaro...blue car had and was no part in this accident...albeit for being there and being the point of discussion of many posts...garbo's fault soley (amidst other Council related issues but can't do sh*t about that so it shouldn't really be a discussion topic) for driving through there like an impatient entitled di*k and not paying careful enough attention to the situation at hand, or clearly the size of the truck.
Luckily a company caused the damage. Companies have money.
@@Nutsaur 😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it
This would be considered a wide street in a lot of London🤣
As someone from moved from Australia to Japan, a country where in the city I now live in has a population FAR more than ALL of Australia. The problem isn't narrow roads.
The problem is narrow roads. Not sure why you think your house move is relevant to that.
@@Matt_Alaric have you seen the avg width of. Japanese road? Do you know the avg density in city areas? There is less room and more people. Yet this sort of occurrence is far less common. So it's not the roads that are the problem.
My house move was only mentioned for validity to my claim, as I've seen it first hand both ways.
@@jpHouse it’s the parked cars on the road that’s the problem
@@jpHouse It's an anecdote, nothing more, with all that carries. Of course the small roads are the issue, the truckie had barely any spare room either side of him which massively increases the chance of scraping a vehicle.
@@Matt_Alaric smaller truck. One side parking/no street parking. 1 way road. Just to name a few things that could drastically reduce the chance of this occurring. All without changing the width of the road.
You just cant hit a stationary vehicle. so it doesn't matter if the cars are legally parked or not.
Try parking your car in the middle of the freeway at night... and let me know when you court date is so I can come hear you explain that to the judge
Not correct, if you hit a parked car that is illegally parked, the parked vehicle is at fault because they shouldn’t be parked there!
@@joshgardner2831 He’s legally parked though?? Check time 0:50 and look at the sign
@@crocodile2006 stop using completely different circumstances to illustrate something irrelevant, obviously there are exceptions but they don't apply here
@@lexacutable starting to think crocodile might be the truckwit in video
Lmao didn’t notice the first time I watched but the truck got caught on a tree
One thing I don't miss about living in an Australian city is every single suburban street has 3000 cars parked on the side turning the street into a one lane road.
and one thing I don't miss living else where is that I spend 20 minutes driving and then 30 minutes to look up a carpark which is another 20 minutes walking to the building want to visit.
Definitely council at fault for allowing parking on both sides when there isn't room for that
There’s a solid line in the middle of the road, so you aren’t allowed to park there.
@@just_passing_through That is not a law in any state.
@@tommygun801
You must not stop or park in an intersection. You must not stop or park on a road within 20 metres from the nearest point of an intersecting road.
The lines merely indicate the intersection. The law states you can’t park at an intersection. So, take it for granted, wherever you see the lines indicating the intersection, you can’t park there.
@@just_passing_through it's 20m from a controlled intersection. 10m from uncontrolled.
3m from a solid dividing line UNLESS there are parking control signs and other information.
Monaro was legally parked
@@traj7196
Still, that Monaro news too close to the intersection, whatever metric you use.
Garbo … and he hits the tree 😂
"Whos at fault?" lol
🤯🤯 directly outside my house and I didn’t even hear it!?
The Monaro was already in the lane (regardless if it is parked or moving) with the truck doing an overtake where there wasn't enough room. 100% garbo at fault.
It's the roundabout in Bentleigh East, VIC 3165
100% the truck's fault. Streets are always narrow with parking cars in that area.
An experienced garbage truck driver should have handle that easily.
However, there has been a shortage of garbage truck driver for more than a year now.
That Monash Council had made apologies multiple times for missing the garbage collection day.
Perhaps because of that, SOLO's truck drivers driving manner has become increasingly aggressive and very different from pre-pandemic.
They are so rush to collect the next bin in front of them nowadays, and don't care about other drivers, even incoming traffic in a narrow street like this.
They never give ways. I have had a few near misses from these SOLO drivers.
The truck should have stopped and let the blue car go first.
So yeah, no surprise of this video.
That doesn't seem like a street that would be safe to park on, so thin.
The word you're searching in vain for is "narrow."
I was not expecting the guy coming out of that car to be so short... lol
The truck is at fault. He should have waited till there was enough room for him to clear the vehicle - he could even have "tapped" his hooter (horn) to ask the car to move to a safer place......
Councils need to start conceding half the width of their oh-so-precious nature strips in these tight streets. Indented parking spaces should be required and paid for by any new sub-dividers and developers. Im sure they can do it without the need to remove trees as well.
I guess everyone missed the fact the garbage truck then stopped when it HIT THE TREE on the other side of the roundabout - methinks maybe someone was driving while distracted
Did the garbo hit the tree after he went through the round a bout hahahaha
Well, it seems to me that if council permitted parking on the street and the garbo truck was permitted to operate a truck of that size and GVM, then the council has some responsibility in that matter for the service it supplies. Of course the collection firm may need to acquire vehicles more relevant to the requirements in which they operate.
The yellow car was illegally parked. Unbroken dividing lines mean there needs to be at least 3 metres space between them and a parked car. Notice the line stops near the nearby marked parking spots. Doesn't entirely let the truck off though.
And he hit the tree when he stopped
So, you’re asking if the fault lies with the stationary Monaro or the moving garbage truck? Okaaaaaaaay …
I like how the how video is just this clip. Pure gold.
Truck's fault for underestimating distance and width of vehicle/s. Better course of action would have been to alert driver to park more closely to side or move ahead.
That blue car should've moved over as close to the curb as possible to allow a truck to go through. But despite all the elements that made this truck drivers job much harder (narrow street, parked vehicles on both sides, stopped traffic not over far enough to allow the truck plenty of room), he should've stopped, told the blue car to move over more, then proceed.
You can 13 other people are terrible drivers if thats what you believe. The blue car did nothing wrong, they were driving, in their lane, and only had to stop because the truck passed over into their lane. If YOUR lane is obstructed, then YOU have to give way to all other traffic before crossing into other lanes to move on.
@@RACGump You do realise the blue car and silver car would've had to drive into the middle of the road to do exactly the same thing as the truck....that is to partially drive on the other side of the road to get around the parked ute they stopped behind. So their side was just as obstructed by parked vehicles.
The garbo truck driver definitely owns a Ford. 🤣
The truck driver thought the yellow monaro was a recycling bin...you should see what he does to "non-recycling" bins!
Why would you ask who is at fault? Your obligation as a driver is to avoid a collision if where possible
Isn't it an obligation as a driver not to basically park your car on the round-a-bout though?
@@crocodile2006 He was clear of the no standing sign
@@crocodile2006 You're one of them hey
@@crocodile2006 Come on, he’s legally parked. Open your eyes…
@@crocodile2006
There’s something wrong with you.
Hand in your licence.
Who cares who’s “technically” at fault? Would I park my Monaro there? Hell no, because my brain functions and I would look at that spot and go, looks like a prime spot to get hit. But each to their own🤷🏻♂️
How is this entire street not no parking?
Bentleigh, those 1950's streets look narrow & round abouts were rare & cars have become wider particularly since the 90's.
Driving a dirty big through tight streets ain't my cup o tea and I always give truckers plenty of respect but I just can't help but think that this bloke was being just a little complacent.....hindsights a beautiful thing, if he was going a little slower and eyed the driver of the blue car I'm sure he'd have moved over for the truck....Bugger! lesson learned either way
@Aqua Fyre Why?
@Aqua Fyre So I've said I have respect for truckers....that the street is tight....that the trucker was driving a little too fast...that it's easy to comment after the fact...that he should've looked at his surroundings a little more carefully and that he'll learn from his mistake.....Your drunk boofhead
Clearly a nearby cyclist aggravated the truck causing it to take its anger on a yellow monaro and a tree
It’s obviously the law of attraction, the garbage car was attracted to the garbage truck!
Getting hit by a rubbish truck is exactly why we got dashcams for each of our cars. Rubbish company washed their hands of it and tried to contest it 12 months later. I ended up liaising with the insurer's legal rep, who said that this particular company Clean***y does this all the time.
I reckon neither took reasonable care and precaution - both are at fault. The Monaro stopped in a spot that makes it extremely difficult for the truck and the truck probably could have made it through if they were going a bit slower and a bit over to the other side.
Where the monaro parked was perfectly fine.
Where the blue car stopped is the problem
@@traj7196 I think it's the other way round - the Monaro stopped right in front of an open parking space and it looks like there is someone in the blue car, in the middle of their lane probably because they're waiting to go around the black ute.
@@Ess_Chalk The yellow car stopped in its own legal parking space. What other spaces were available are irrelevant
The council and the state and federal government's is at fault for building tiny roads, tiny carparks and never using any foresight when it comes to construction or water management.
Agreed. If you want to build streets that narrow, there should be no on street parking, at all.
Sure - all this was planned by the governments!
@@AnotherDoug the allocation of roads and infrastructures? Yes, they are decided by a combination of state, federal government along with local council. They don't grow out of the ground lol
"hey mate I got it on camera"
Well I don't know about anyone else but I sure as hell wouldn't be parking a Monaro on that street, especially right in front of the roundabout.
It was 100% the truck driver's fault. The Monaro was legally parked, and the truck driver took a risk by trying to fit through the gap.
He really enjoyed his legal parking. You wouldn't catch me parking in a spot like that.
You want to go back and read your road rules, regardless what the sign says, road markings have meaning too. The Monaro was actually illegally parked, you can't not park less than 2.5 meters from an unbroken line. It's the truck drivers fault for going a tad quick, but the Monaro would not of been hit if he parked legally and remembered ALL his road rules.
@@Earthneedsado-over177 He wasn't legally parked, I can't understand how you worked it out. It's regardless of what the street sign says, you also need to observe road markings too which so many people fail to observe and notice. Go back to your rule book and you will see, that YOU CAN NOT park less than 2.5 meters from an unbroken line.
Truck for sure!!
Yep used to live in a shit suburb with lots of tight narrow streets with everyone parking each side of the road. I saw on numerous occasions mirrors getting clipped or taillights smashed. So ppl started doing the logical thing and parked up on the curb and the council would come round and fine every single person.
Look how far that blue Nissa micra is parked off the curb that played a part to I reckon but yerr I drive trucks in suburban areas if I don't think I'd Fit stop and look but there's heaps of factors that don't make it easier for them either
Should've been parked there in the first place so close to an intersection got to love them council rules.
The rule is you can't stop within 10 metres of an uncontrolled intersection. Yellow car was outside the 10 metres. Also, there is a No Standing sign just ahead of where the car was parked - which legitimises the location where the yellow car was legally parked.
It's a tough gig driving something that size through these streets. The law states that you must leave 3 meters clearance. The truck is about 2.5m wide. Monaro parked legally, not at fault. Blue car failed to leave 3m clearance, partially to blame. Truck driver mostly to blame unfortunately. Probably very tired and frustrated (no excuse tho).
Agree with you there! Those Micra drivers are almost as bad as Camry drivers!
Blue car is not parked (it was waiting for the truck to pass) so 3 metre rule doesn't apply
@@AnotherDoug not parked, but certainly stopped. Not sure on the legal difference.
@@dynevor6327 if the blue car had better awareness they could have easily given the truck more room. Truck driver still at fault but I can tell you we get frustrated when cars leave insufficient room, especially when it is clearly there. If I was driving that truck, I would have stopped, blocked the road and waited for the blue car to move over. Truck driver got impatient and fucked up.
@@dynevor6327 you're missing my point. I'm not saying the truck driver wasn't at fault. Clearly he was. I'm saying that the blue car saw him coming, could have easily given him more room but didn't.
Some other things of note in this incident are as follows.
This is a dual control truck. The driver was sitting in the right seat and that tells me a few things.
Either he was just starting a run or just finishing a run, especially if that time mark is accurate.
And when on a run in those narrow streets would usually be driven from the left seat.
It was probably a situation he could have avoided if he was in the more familiar left seat.
No excuse. You just can't drive these big things like that, but you're driving a car and see an incident like this about to happen, leave as much room as you can. And maybe everyone will avoid making it a bad day
We have the same problem where im from, and we have to literally drive half on the wrong side of the 2 way streets to get through because parking is allowed.
Why are the streets so narrow???
A century ago, the entire district that this suburb is in, only had 7400 people living in it. And being 14km from the cbd, back when horses were the fast way to get around, it would have been a poor, rural fringe area. Here we are 100 years of bad town planning and dodgy development deals later, and you have this, a suburb full of million dollar houses with 100k people living in it, on roads that were essentially designed for horse and buggy.
I’d say the Truck driver since there’s nothing wrong with where the Monaro is parked and the moving Vehicle is usually at fault.
How ever that Blue Nissan Micra that’s sitting about 10miles off of the curb and could have moved over an extra foot or two to give the truck a bit more space certainly didn’t help.
You can't park without leaving at least 3m space to an unbroken dividing line.
@@JamesAAshton doesn’t matter Monaro was stationary and parked. The truck stupidly decided to try and cram through completely on the truck driver. He could have just as easily waited and asked the Monaro to move the driver was right there.
So even if the Monaro was parked wrong it’s still the truck drivers fault.
I’m voting for the truck driver. He could’ve & should’ve waited for the other oncoming cars to pass before trying to squeeze through such a narrow gap with a vehicle that size.
It's a Holden...it'll buff right out...down at the scrap yard. 😅
The fact the Garbage truck ends up crashing into the tree tells me the driver is either fatigued or under the influence of something. Very tight but he is trained to drive
Everyone saying the Monaro is illegally parked must be watching another video. But it's also irrelevant since the rubbish truck driver still needs to avoid hitting stationary cars. It's pretty clear they just went for a gap that wasn't wide enough.
Crash was approx outside 5 Joy Street, East Bentleigh (VIC) if anyone wants to visit it on Street View. It just a typical pre-war Melbourne suburban street and not an especially narrow one.
The driver of the blue car had every right to be where they were...looked to be waiting for the garbo to come through and had moved left as far as practicably was available.
Old mate in the garbage truck could have taken the path past the Munro rather slower (or stopped), and a bit straighter well beyond the Munro, instead of cutting it so close...that said old mate in the Munro could have parked further back from the No Stopping/Standing sign (looked to be a good car length behind him at least and nfi if something might've been parked there prior)...but he was a bee's dick off the kerb, so did the best he could to get as far left as possible.
For mine...and being a truck driver...was pretty reckless actions of the garbo to go through there as he did...and he'd likely cop blame from the Police and Insurance co. on that basis. He could have avoided that situation quite easily instead of being in a hurry to either tip off...or get to the next street to get the quota of bins plus some...smh!!!
And the parking restrictions should also have been placed well back further from the roundabout as well, and street parking limited to one side...shame Council shame!!!!!
take a close look, the truck is braking before the car bonnet dips, as the blue car brakes, cant see clearly but looks like blue car enters the road after the truck has already straddled centre line. but yes the truck is way too fast for a street that size and will cop 100% of the blame as truck drivers always do. That's why so many good drivers are walking away.
I agree to most of what you say here regarding how the Garbo driver went through, he could of went a tad slower and would of missed it. Regardless of the sign, we do have line markings, that marking is classified as Unbroken line. one can't park or stop less than 2.5 meters from an unbroken line. Even that Blue Ford ute is illegally parked.
I too am a truck driver of over 35 years, and come across this way to often some cases I can't even go up the street, and that's when both the council and the Police are called in to take action, as the clock is ticking.
WTF is a Munro?
@@swinetrek old school talk for Monaro...real old school
@@Ausmerica yup agreed, and with the ever much cramming of property into new developments, the roads and streets become more tracks than anything else, where you're lucky to squeeze much more than largest of 4wd's through...ridiculous
people" where should we plant all these trees?"
council. " under the powerlines seems like a pretty good spot."
Yellow Monaro parked next to unbroken white line and too close to intersection/roundabout.
The government is at fault. Clearly such a small street can't be two ways
It can be.
But it can't have on street parking.
Ban car parking there and the street is incredibly wide. Too wide in fact, so you can then add a cycle lane
The government form 1870 is at fault!
@@dynevor6327 I didn't
@@hayloft3834 No, I am blaming the governments, from the one that decided that street should be two ways to all the others that didn't fix the problem
Both parties should be arguing with the council about parking on such a busy narrow street. However, the truck should have waited behind the Holden he would have been fine. Either the Holden would move through or the traffic going the other direction would clear up.
Was nothing to really wait for...garbo should've just been a few seconds more patient and he would've got through there no probs...had a mile of room to his right...and yes...the whole parking thing seems a valid issue here i.e. parking sign so close to roundabout, parking on both sides of a narrow street etc etc...but in this case it is what it is...garbo should not have been in such a rush...plain n simple, drive to the conditions...he didn't.
Both parties need to send the bill of repair to council.The brake lights on the holden only came on after the hit, the holden was parked right on the edge of the no standing zone, if the holden was parked 2 metres back from the sign the garbo would have had the room to swing back into his lane. Also if the nissan and the car behind it, could of given the garbo more room this wouldn't have happened. Everyone needs to have common sense and courtesy.
@@dirtyfox5060 It is irrelevant how much parking space was, or was not, available behind the yellow car
@@AnotherDoug actually it is, there is an island before the roundabout. To avoid driving over the island, the garbo was moving back into his lane when he hit the holden. If the holden was back from the sign, this wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying the holden is in the wrong, I'm looking at how this could of been avoided all together.
The Truckie was definately at fault. He should not have proceeded when clearly he knew he didn't have the room to pass.
Why was Monaro driver stopped there? He was just sotting in the car right in front of the roundabout?