Detailed Tutorial on 2018 / 2019 Automated transmissions for Peterbilt trucks.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 เม.ย. 2018
- This video explains how Peterbilt changed the position of the shifter to the steering column. It also explains the safety features available to enable your drivers to keep their eyes on the road and manipulate the truck to conduct multiple functions without having to take your hands off the steering wheel. Safety and ease of operation are the keys. For a demo, feel free to contact me: JW 970-518-5520
Thank you for this. This is the first video I've found after searching for several hours explaining how the automated manual transmission works when driving.
Thank you for posting, amazing technology for old gear heads like myself...
You are welcome. I will likely redo this video when I can get the actual Eaton Rep involved.
I'm older than dirt and started driving with two sticks. What amazing technology ... Tks
Thank you for the explanation video! Very well done 👍!
very informative, and straight to the point. thanks
Thank you for the feedback!
Our company is taking delivery of 3 brand new 2021 579 Daycabs with the Auto trans, can't wait to try them out!
Thank for all the information
Awesome machines. I hope I get to drive one one day.
LOVE THIS TRUCK
I been driving a manual shift for 35 years and the company gave me a new Pete today with an automatic like the one you are driving. I had to figure out how to drive it on the way back home. I fell in love with the auto transmission but didn't know about the different settings. Going on 500 mile trip tomorrow and will experiment. This video answered a lot of my questions. THANKS.
Most dealers don't take the time to program the tranny to the driver's preferences. We bring in each driver and go through the possible settings with them. It makes a huge difference.
@thronic you are 100% correct. Many dealers just push them out the door and expect you to pay later to set parameters or the sales person won't go the extra mile. When I sell a truck, I take the driver out and show him the basics of automated tranny's and learn what he does with driving habits, terrain, etc.. I pay a tech 1 hour after the drive to sit with the customer and set parameters to his liking thus giving them a much more positive experience. 👍 Great comment by the way!
@@LargeCarjw You're telling me! We've got slew of Kenworth T610 loggers, they're all different and they're all shit! NZ distributer won't let anyone set the parameters because " it might void the warrenty." In my opinion it's void if you DON'T set them. But what do I know, I've only been driving 40 years...
Excellent video.....
I suppose automatics ain't so bad after all. Your video really helps to bring an insightful perspective, for the manual drivers who might be apprehensive towards automatics. I do see there is a slight learning curve, but overall very doable.
The only problem is the expensive clutch for those things.
The transmission in this truck is not Automatic, it's Automated (as the title of the video says)
very well done,i learned a lot,good job
Thank you Tadd. I will probably be updating this video in the next 6-12 months with more content. Stay tuned...
Great video
this kind of truck and transmission is pretty convenient for me if i ever have to pull double trailers like Super B’s here in Canada.. but as a new driver im trying to get experience in a manual first just to be able to better my driving overall, my dad has a truck that i practice on a farm so as much as possible i wanna practice on lots as long as we have time..
Great job!
Damn good video!
Very informative!
Thank you Matt. I was just visiting with my Eaton Fuller Rep the other day. I learned many things about these. We updated some 2014 trucks with these Automated trannys. We can put many many variable parameters specific to the driver's preferences. I may do another video on that at a later time. Stay tuned!!
Awesome vid. Covenant Transport is using these type of transmissions.
Thx for info on manual shift and creep, been wandering about it.
Love automatic transmissions easy life on the road
Thanks been driving a 2018 kenworth going to be driving a 2019 Peterbilt..
Do u have a video of shifting and hill assist with a trailer conected?
lindo, parabéns
What models is the ultra shift available
Wish I was young and buying one of these.
Never too late Norm!
Well done thx. Maybe add an example of an upshift and downshift.
Mi pregunta es el 579 2016 automático es bueno para trabajar con un dump truck?
Drive one everyday and think it’s great, but wondering , when in reverse how to shift between 1 and 2 ?
I just got assigned a new one last week. Comfortable ride, but why would they put the emergency flasher in such a bad location? (low, left of the steering column). I was in a Volvo automatic with the D13 motor. I would have liked to had this Paccar transmission in that Volvo. Volvo had a more driver friendly interior.
Why doesn’t the suspension dump work with brakes depressed?
In the snow going down like wolf Creek pass??
Were you lifting the accelerator pedal or was the transmission/ECM doing that for you? The video did no show your foot.
Can you set the Jake break on cruise control for steep downgrades like the freightliner Cascadia i just got a 2020 ultraloft and everything is different than the freightliner i was in thank you
Yes, you should be able to in the parameter settings at a dealer. You can be pretty specific. I usually set up a tech to go through all these settings before the customer takes his truck off the lot. Especially with automated tranny's.
You can gave the trans programmed. Then you will have two settings.
NICEEEEEEE
Is it good with 389?
Question im just getting into a 2029 peterbilt after being in a freightliner.
Is setting the hiil assist for steep declines the the aame
I don't believe so Eugene. Now that your clutch leg is free, give it a whirl!
Can I pull 125,000 gross with this?
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I have a 2018 the transmission will not shift past tenth gear and my speed was at 45 will not go past that could it be the shift solenoid don't went out
Is a 2018 peterbilt
How long do those transmissions last? How often are the serviced? Is it designed like a car transmission with clutch packs and torque converter?
no its an AMT so its an automated manual transmission, also known as junk. i drive a 2017 KW T880 18 speed manual, sadly its probably one of the last manuals my boss will buy. all of the trucks he is buying now are automated. i think if you are going to drive you should be able to shift.
@@ad356 you are able to shift.
Its basically a manual transmission. But a computer controls the shifting and clutch. You can "request" a shift but if the computer thinks the rpms will be to high or low in the gear you asked it to go to it will not shift. Theoretically it decrease drivetrain wear snd tear.
Should have shown how to shift in manuel while moving
If it’s in manual mode and you go to stage 3 jake will it still bump it over 2000 rpm or do I get to shift to what gear I’m in?
“Cant believe I’m asking about this lol”
It will not over rev without up shifting Joe. I might redo this video with the Eaton Representative to give better clarification. Many things have changed since I have done this video. Stay tuned my friend and thanks for asking.
Can you skip gears in the manual setting.
You can paddle shift to the necessary gear. In some cases, it may not let you if the engine is to over-rev. I have also driven some that I wanted to start in 4th and it will only let me paddle shift to 3rd. This is a parameter setting.
Great video , Thay handled very well in the snow and black ice roads , What about the electric trucks coming up .... ?
We have full electric refuse trucks on the road for the past 5 years. Still far out on the road trucks. That is why Elon Musk- Tesla is still buying Peterbilts to haul his toys around 👍🤔😜😂
@@LargeCarjw Thanks, Used deliver his car parts to his assembly plant in Fremont CA .......👍🇺🇸
would have to drive one before I could judge it;seems like a good thing and that it integrates the shifting and jakes.I have run 777 Cats and they are auto so I do not see why this would not work
James, I have found that driving with this tranny in heavy traffic is great. This feature saved my bacon a couple times when I was cut off in Indy. I am looking for more feedback on these with heavy loads on mountain passes, ice, and icy mountain passes! Keep your ear to the ground.
👍😉
What’s the difference between automatic and animated manual transMission? Are they reliable for local construction hauling? All I hear is how often they breakdown.
I am glad you asked.... I am going to do an updated video on this very topic. The Automated Tranny like in this video has a true clutch that automates shifting. A true automatic transmission has a torque converter like most pickups out there today and there is no drop of torque or power between shifts like the automated. To answer your question, either of these are a great option for Vocational applications but in refuse the automated does not perform as well. Call me if you need further clarification 👍
Peterbilt SoCo how’s the durability difference between manual and automatic? More breakdowns? More electrical problems?
Peterbilt SoCo how reliable are they compared to manual? Lots of people say more electrical issues and more expensive to fix?
thought we would see the manual mode in action. only part he left out
I wish the engine brake actually did something when I’m loaded. It does absolutely nothing. I really dislike this transmission
the gearbox is opticruise...scania!!!
So they're very proud that their automatic transmission works just like an automatic transmission? Wow. I'm staying home now.
Good for you and make sure watch Netflix all time.
I see a code.
I just got cut off...
1. No brakes
2. Jake brake
😂
(I drive in L.A., anything more than 1 click just to aid with engine braking when you lift makes the whole driveline act goofy.)
still way behind on tech... should have more controls on the steering wheel
Just switched over to one of these. But I totally disagree with you saying it won’t roll back it sure will roll back and it will even on what looks to be very flat ground. I don’t like how long it takes to shift, people behind you think you don’t know how to drive because it takes so long to shift. I did not want an automatic but that’s what companies are going with these days. Was also told that for fleet trucks Peterbilt isn’t even making the manuals anymore. That if you want one as an individual you have to special order it. I want my manual back!
Sandy, I suggest you take it to a dealer who can change the parameters for you. ALL the Eaton / Paccar come with pre-set parameters that need to be updated. Call me and I will update you on what I have learned. 970-518-5520.
Peterbilt SoCo the manual even warns you that the truck can roll back! I will give you a call. Thanks for the response!!
It's important to learn whether the truck you are operating has engine overspeed protection or not. My engine plate reads 1600 rpm max. Yet the transmission tries to surpass that all the time. The reason I ask is that I saw your engine's rpm in the video violently downshifted to over 1700 and wanted to know if you knew about the overspeed protection. If it doesn't have it then driver is responsible for protecting the engine from costly catastrophic damage.
There isn't a single engine in the 13-litre class that's not capable of mechanically revving up to at least 2100rpm. You need that rpm to get in the effective engine speed range for the engine brake. That's why it shifted into that area in the video, it won't do that unless using the engine brake. The 1600rpm on you engine plate means that it won't turn over 1600rpm when firing (i.e. not braking) because max power is at 1600 and there's no point in revving it higher, it just wastes fuel. But it has nothing to do with the mechanical capability of the engine or where you should be when using the engine brake.
@@CreRay I drove this type of setup over the road for four years across America. The truck "turned over" 1600rpm all of the time. I thought that the engine plate which read "Max Engine Speed - 1600rpm" meant that 1600rpm is the maximum engine speed it could take. Also I never experienced it cut-off fuel above the 1600 max engine speed. In fact it never cut fuel and always "fired" above that.
Let's say that after his demonstration of the engine brake, he then quickly disengaged the engine brake by using the accelerator pedal. Then he held his foot on the accelerator pedal about 2/3 full for five to ten seconds. In this scenario, the engine would resume "fire" and even accelerate to more than 2000rpm before shifting into the next appropriate gear.
Finally US trucks have automatic tranny😉
Gee, so simple...nothing can go wrong.....NOT !!!
PACCAR???
The transmission is actually an Eaton Fuller Endurant 12. Just branded Paccar when behind a Paccar engine. Thanks for watching.
These do everything for you transmissions make it so people that have no business driving a truck think they know how to drive and getting into trucking and causing accidents. Yes their design is intended to make it safer and more convenient but the people that now think they can drive are negating any positive effect these types of transmissions are having.
I like the overall functionality of what I saw but still not sure it's a benefit over the good ole tried and true manual.
You make some good points Mike. America is experiencing a massive shortage of drivers. Hopefully, we can all find a positive solution to fill some driver seats!
@@moncho2000 um that would be a big negatory! These new wheel holders that are flooding the industry dont have the first clue what they are doing even after they graduate from the so called "trucker training" that places like crst, prime, swift and all the others offer. Anyone can be a mindless wheel holder but few can be a consistently safe and legal trucker. There is a big difference!
Back in the day my father told a story about his father. When more and more cars and trucks were going to an automatic transmission him and his friends thought there was no way a machine could be as smart and reliable as a human. Now most every car is an automatic. Same is happening to big trucks. Something youre going to have to live with. If having a manual is THE factor that determines a drivers worth then there are deeper problems with the trucking industry.
@@LargeCarjw don't worry about this idiot who putting down people who drive automatic trucks hes just one of those super truckers who got something to prove.
I agree here. You can definitely tell a real truck driver from the wannabe type.
Automated ≠ automated-manual
Automated was designed by Paccar and Eaton Fuller to be fully controlled by the computer and missing the components that are used in a standard transmission. There are no components that allow a stick to be installed or used on these transmissions whatsoever. The connections to the gears themselves are more direct and do not use a gear shifter or a clutch linkage. This increases the level of control over the transmission and clutch to such a degree that the perfect algorithm quickly and smoothly changes gears and even skips gears rapidly.
Automated-manual transmissions are a standard transmission that are partially controlled by the computer physically moving the shifter and clutch pedal linkage for the driver using the existing manual transmission and electric solenoids to actually move the gear shifter. (These suck mostly)
I have the KW T680 with the 10 speed. I can manually shift without being in manual mode. Not sure why the "manual mode" is there.
Great feedback, I will check next time I am around an ultrashift and see if it is the same on a Pete. Stay tuned...
@@LargeCarjw 👍
I drive a 2016 Pete 579- when the piece of crap isn't out of service. Latest breakdown was a de-rate fault that has had the truck down for 2 months now, and counting.
Manual mode allows me to lock out a higher gear than the one I want to cruise in.
For example, I routinely cross the Allegheny Mountains on the Pennsylvania turnpike. If I allow the truck to automatically shift all the way to 10th gear, the engine is lugging down so much that I am moving slowly enough to cause a traffic hazard. However, if I use manual mode, I can lock out 10th gear and cruise in 9th. At the governed speed limit of 68 mph, the engine is running right at 1500 rpm, and I can maintain road speed until I hit the steepest grades under a heavy load. Another advantage of manual mode is when descending a grade, especially with the Jake brake on. In automatic, mine wants to downshift at fairly high rpms then engage the Jake. This causes a fairly violent deceleration. In manual mode, I can control the downshift point, thus allowing me to maintain speed or smoothly slow down without needing the air brakes until I'm down to about 20mph. Below that point, my Jake brake won't come on at all.
When they add the automatic backing up feature I'll get into trucking
Haha
They should left the Jake switches on the dash
That cheap switch failed on me after a year of using the truck for otr use. It had 75K when I got it They are unreliable so be careful.
They basically copied The 2017 Frieghtliner Cascadia I used to operate.
@@thomasb4838 Not really. I mean it has exactly the same stalk setup controls as my 12 speed in the Cascadia.
It's a cheap copy of Volvo IShift and FHT DT12, either way still better than manual and shifting bullshit gears
I'd rather teach a student how to shift a manual then try to get them to remember all that shit.
The enduranceTrans 12 speed is a junk actually Not the mechanical it’s all the software , up shifting Uphill 6 & 7 gears blinks 4-6 then engaged & downshifting uphill from 12 in to 11,10 & 9 gears takes 4-6 blinks before engages again , with 80,000 pounds 4-8 grades hill you’re losing to speed and momentum , the engine break thanks 3 blinks about 2 seconds downshifting in lower gear every time on downhill 4-6 Grade in till it’s thinking to downshift it’s too late needs to go back in a higher gear , this software is a junk I don’t recommend to any to buy this junk Transmission, does a problem they’re testing a brand new and bobtail try after 100,000 miles And full loaded truck , and every time they doing a software update they charging you $$$$ but there is no difference even worse it gets , that’s my advice stay away away but you’re choosing not me I already did and I regret I should get Allison CT10, Paccar don’t listen to customer :(
thronic that’s why I keep telling don’t ever update the software LOL
All the drama started when they starting doing updates the more they doing the worse they get and plus is there on junk and you have to pay for each one 700 or 900 something dollars
Stop lying
Creep mode is a b.s
Does not work
I wouldn't want one and I wouldn't drive one with a automatic transmission if you can't atleast shift somewhat good then you shouldn't drive a truck
@@karangrewal2711 yeah I just caint see myself with a automatic
go to hell then idiot
@@rajsood7571 fuck you bitch you probably can't drive a 9 or 10 or 13 or 15 or 18 so you probably need a automatic
@@dakotajohnson9846 i agree. i have driven 8LL, 9, 10, 13, and 18. my current truck is a 2017 T880 manual 18 day cab, sadly all they are buying now are automatics. looks like im going to have to keep that truck as long has he allows me to have it. if im still there 10 years from now then i will still be driving that truck unless he forces me out of it. in that case i might look for another job with a manual.
i have only had my CDL 2 years and it seems like i am among the last to be able to shift a real transmission. sadly.
@@ad356 yeah I understand if ur working for a company and if that's all they then that's all they have I know you got to do what you got to do to provide for ur family and urself but I couldn't or wouldn't own one with a automatic transmission bud I was taught by a old time chicken hauler my paw paw I just bought a 2001 freightliner day cab with a n14 Cummins and 9 speed I love it and I'm home a lot more than I was cuz I used to be over the road going to California and Oregon but I quit cuz I have a 2 year old little boy and my little girl will be here in 2 months so I found something local and making just as much or more
Cuestión when is recomendación oil change in that automatic transmission 2020 piterbilt 579 ?
"Safety features". Peterbilt is a joke. There hasn't been a good truck built by them in over a decade. The 579 is a fucking travesty to the industry. No quality control (serious electrical accessorial issues from the factory), lacking features (insulation would be a good fucking start, leather seats with actual cushioning), serious design flaws (poor button placement, useless electronic nannies).
The fact truck manufacturers sell trucks with anti idle, not requiring an apu to be sold with those trucks, makes them as uncaring for truck drivers as the driver's employer.
is eaton transmation? if it is paccar transmation not good, like paccar engine 👎