Was fit by Jon Sinclair earlier this year for Driver, fairway wood and hybrid shafts. Best fitting experience I’ve ever had. The TPT shafts that I was fit into have given me both more distance and better dispersion.
In 2004 I was running around 118 - 121 with a 43" Titleist 983E. I could bomb it. The caveat was, the community as a whole was only scratching the surface of the factors of spin, launch angle, spin loft, AOA, all of that good stuff. With that old driver I was averaging over 3k. I still have a printout from the early About Golf launch monitor that my coach had at the time. How things have changed. My coach used to do long drive and they would use a grip for their tees. Essentially putting like a dowel rod in it to make it somewhat rigid to about half way up. But the idea was to increase the AOA to like +15 or higher with the low lofted and at the time 50" drivers. They also used as stiff as you could find too, not realizing that the softer flex gives you more launch. The kick point also plays a huge roll and is generally over looked. The higher the kick point the lower the launch and vice versa. The lower the kick point the higher the launch. The long drive guys were using a lot of Accuflex shafts at the time. No idea if they're still in business anymore, but they used to be some killer bespoke type shafts.
Here's what you need to know about TPT shafts: they are expensive and they do not give out discount's. Tough to justify the pricetag even for an extra 9 yards.
I’m not convinced torque actually impacts squaring the face like he’s saying. That’s TPT’s whole marketing pitch with the single fiber weave. All the other literature on torque says it’s a feel thing and the ball is not on the face long enough for torque to impact flight. It’s more about feedback to the player, and of course it feels gross to have the club twist in your hands on an off center strike, especially at high swing speeds. Plus lower torque is very typically highly correlated with stiffer flex or weight which are more impactful to the delivery. The “stable” word he said others feel when they try a TPT shaft is just that - a feeling based on les twisting AFTER impact, not actually more stable performance. It’s also because they just got fit, and when you get fit you find center face more often which also helps it feel more stable. He’s trying to make us think a TPT shaft twists less in the swing on its own than another shaft. Even if that was true, that difference would be so immaterial and unnoticeable. It would be a fraction of a fraction of the reason a club head twists where the players wrist release and forearms pronate / supinate pattern is the main reason for any significant twisting. He seems like a very knowledgeable fitter, but you gotta take everything with a grain of salt when he’s wearing a TPT shirt. This is the same shaft company partnering with LAB golf trying to sell a “more stable” putter shaft that costs $300. Their marketing ploys know no boundaries. No shade, I’m sure they are great shafts just as good as the market staples like a Ventus. But I wish for a 50 min video I got to see more shafts tested and learn about how kick points and flex and weight impacted your delivery and speed. The spin loft and longer isn’t always faster / better are good takeaways though.
I don’t understand the mentality of forcing something that clearly isn’t helping? It’s clear the 45 1/2 is much better for you. The extra mph from the 46 is pointless if you can’t hit it consistently. I understand you want to hit the 46, but it’s always best to go with what actually works for you at the time you’re fitted. It’s one thing with irons if your on the edge of maybe players distance vs players. I’d always say go for the players iron, so you don’t immediately outgrow the more forgiving iron. Plus I personally believe you get better faster that way. People that stay in game improvement irons are only hurting themselves. But in regards to the driver, it never makes sense to force something, because that’s what you want, even though it’s clearly worse for your game
Who is this guy? He seems to know a lot. This was very interesting. But I'm not sure how much of this is relevant to the average golfer who swings 90-95 mph.
Jon Sinclair! Amazing coach who's worked with tour players for years. Got into club fitting and now helping TPT create new shafts as a way to help his players. Love the mindset he brings towards improvement.
It “can” be pretty relevant. If you’re consistently at that speed, someone like this (if you have the money and time) could help you maximize your swing with more speed or help fix your miss. Too expensive for most of us, but this video helps us understand how to back yard “fit” ourselves bubba style.
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Jon is the best in the biz!
Was fit by Jon Sinclair earlier this year for Driver, fairway wood and hybrid shafts.
Best fitting experience I’ve ever had. The TPT shafts that I was fit into have given me both more distance and better dispersion.
In 2004 I was running around 118 - 121 with a 43" Titleist 983E. I could bomb it. The caveat was, the community as a whole was only scratching the surface of the factors of spin, launch angle, spin loft, AOA, all of that good stuff. With that old driver I was averaging over 3k. I still have a printout from the early About Golf launch monitor that my coach had at the time. How things have changed. My coach used to do long drive and they would use a grip for their tees. Essentially putting like a dowel rod in it to make it somewhat rigid to about half way up. But the idea was to increase the AOA to like +15 or higher with the low lofted and at the time 50" drivers. They also used as stiff as you could find too, not realizing that the softer flex gives you more launch. The kick point also plays a huge roll and is generally over looked. The higher the kick point the lower the launch and vice versa. The lower the kick point the higher the launch. The long drive guys were using a lot of Accuflex shafts at the time. No idea if they're still in business anymore, but they used to be some killer bespoke type shafts.
Wow 342 carry is huge! Nice work!
Thanks, Golf Science Lab and Jon Sinclair ! We're thrilled to see TPT shafts driving speed, distance, and precision !
We appreciate you guys!
6:16 finding out he is a spitter! Sick!
Great to be seeing a fitting with Swingweight being taken into consideration
Never realized what a big deal this was until this fitting! It's massive.
@@golfsciencelabit’s a massive key to strike.
Very interesting video ! I would love to try one of these shafts
You should!
John seems amazing. Would love to get a fitting with him one day.
I’d recommend it!!
A video on the speed gains that have made a difference in your irons?
Good idea. They go farther 😂
Very interesting vid 👍👊
Glad you enjoyed it!!!
Love ping drivers… but your should def test the new GT drivers…. They are fast.
I've long heard wonderful things about TPT shafts. Seemingly not a lot of pros play them though? Is that accurate?
Try one out! They have a presence on tour. I could see that growing as more players test it.
When John says high vs low torque, does he mean high = more or less twist?
low torque is less twist. (dispersion more left, generally)
more torque is more twist. (dispersion more right, generally)
Like the hair cut
Here's what you need to know about TPT shafts: they are expensive and they do not give out discount's. Tough to justify the pricetag even for an extra 9 yards.
what brand shirt is that?
UNRL is the brand! Good stuff.
@@golfsciencelab Appreciate you taking the time to reply, loved the video of your fitting, top class
I’m not convinced torque actually impacts squaring the face like he’s saying. That’s TPT’s whole marketing pitch with the single fiber weave. All the other literature on torque says it’s a feel thing and the ball is not on the face long enough for torque to impact flight. It’s more about feedback to the player, and of course it feels gross to have the club twist in your hands on an off center strike, especially at high swing speeds. Plus lower torque is very typically highly correlated with stiffer flex or weight which are more impactful to the delivery. The “stable” word he said others feel when they try a TPT shaft is just that - a feeling based on les twisting AFTER impact, not actually more stable performance. It’s also because they just got fit, and when you get fit you find center face more often which also helps it feel more stable.
He’s trying to make us think a TPT shaft twists less in the swing on its own than another shaft. Even if that was true, that difference would be so immaterial and unnoticeable. It would be a fraction of a fraction of the reason a club head twists where the players wrist release and forearms pronate / supinate pattern is the main reason for any significant twisting.
He seems like a very knowledgeable fitter, but you gotta take everything with a grain of salt when he’s wearing a TPT shirt. This is the same shaft company partnering with LAB golf trying to sell a “more stable” putter shaft that costs $300. Their marketing ploys know no boundaries. No shade, I’m sure they are great shafts just as good as the market staples like a Ventus. But I wish for a 50 min video I got to see more shafts tested and learn about how kick points and flex and weight impacted your delivery and speed. The spin loft and longer isn’t always faster / better are good takeaways though.
Entertaining
Glad you enjoyed it :)
I don’t understand the mentality of forcing something that clearly isn’t helping? It’s clear the 45 1/2 is much better for you. The extra mph from the 46 is pointless if you can’t hit it consistently. I understand you want to hit the 46, but it’s always best to go with what actually works for you at the time you’re fitted. It’s one thing with irons if your on the edge of maybe players distance vs players. I’d always say go for the players iron, so you don’t immediately outgrow the more forgiving iron. Plus I personally believe you get better faster that way. People that stay in game improvement irons are only hurting themselves. But in regards to the driver, it never makes sense to force something, because that’s what you want, even though it’s clearly worse for your game
You're right. I'm 100% trying to force it. 😂
Congrats you got pretty close to 180.
So close!
Did you go nitro or power
Went Nitro! So good.
You should have tried one at 45”….
Didn't drop below 45.5 in this fitting. And Jon had to really convince me to cut the 16lo down. I'm addicted to chasing club head speed 😂
@@golfsciencelab You may be surprised… nothing ventured nothing gained. Trim your old one down to 45” then you have one at 45”, 45.5 and 46 to test.
Who is this guy? He seems to know a lot. This was very interesting. But I'm not sure how much of this is relevant to the average golfer who swings 90-95 mph.
Jon Sinclair! Amazing coach who's worked with tour players for years. Got into club fitting and now helping TPT create new shafts as a way to help his players. Love the mindset he brings towards improvement.
It “can” be pretty relevant. If you’re consistently at that speed, someone like this (if you have the money and time) could help you maximize your swing with more speed or help fix your miss. Too expensive for most of us, but this video helps us understand how to back yard “fit” ourselves bubba style.
110+ balls in a driver fitting? I'd have to come back 4 times!!!
It was a long day 😂. For the video. Not normally like that.
Getting close, feel like you got to get to 122 chs even with a less than perfect strike should get there..don’t you think?
Kind of. I have done that and still not gotten the ball speed.
Much prefer the playing vlogs to the fitting videos , tend to lose interest in those after 10 minutes just a bit of feedback Gary not having a go pal
I promise you you will hit it better at 45 than you are playing it 46 . Even Rory made this conclusion and he got faster .
I like my shaft to be around 2.4 to 2.9 torque.
How'd you learn that? Fitting? Experience?
@@golfsciencelab yes, both. When I was using the Nunchuk shaft, being a tad heavy, I came across the Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue. It started from there.