Path of Exile - The Review - IGN is a Joke
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You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
savage
The BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRNN
Where's the lie?
IGNorant lol
Got'em
I can bet IGN will give 9/10 to Diablo immortal.
Randall Draco enough money and they will give 10/10 to TETRIS
@@Hangman1 but Tetris is actually a great game 😂
they did it with diablo 3 when it was utter shit, so yes, they will, 100%!
its a big conglomerate. ofc blizzard had their hands in.
1 week before major content patch/addon they review the game, yeah nice timing uh i mean coincident.
let alon they give POE mediocre ratings, which is a bad joke. poe is the undisputed king on the arpg landscape, and it has very very very deep mechanics and interactions.
people can say what they want, this was psyops from blizzard.
Saying that the games combat is "underwhelming" is hilarious. The sheer amount of impact and customization you have over your character is crazy. I can't help but think that they just played through the game once without thinking too much about linking and optimizing and just left it at that (And they most likely only played with a single character with the simplest build you can find).
It's ok, blizzard made sure PoE got an influx of new players :)
Yep im one whos just now downloading
I'm waiting till December to play on ps4
@@hypnoticrobotgaming Same. Psn?
Ignorant players maybe. Grim Dawn is better.
@@bigfatnuts699 DestroyerBearus
"Should game reviewers be good at playing games in order to review them?"
Yes, in the same way I expect book reviewers to be able to read the language of the book they're reviewing.
At the very least. I'd contend that I would expect them to actually be well versed in literature, in general. I really would hate to read a review on, say, a Steven King novell by someone who ever only read Danielle Steel drivel.
@Thalanox / Dmitry Nutels ... 2 years later and this is still a fucking great comment
Hello fellow ex-Blizzard fans!
Blizzard said Diablo Immortal, fans said 'Path of Exile' I Started playing 2 hours ago, No regrets, Can't believe it's been under my radar for so long.
Yep me too, totally got hooked! It's like we've been under the Blizzard spell for too long lol
WakerWanderer I’m downloading it now
I just downloaded Diablo 1...with a few convince mods it's so fun..better than D3
Totally looking to start playing this game! So glad i found this excellent video.
Long time Diablo player, love those games. But after years of playing it I got bored with it. Decided to give PoE a try. As a new PoE player I have NEVER felt as lost in a game as this one. There are so many skills, systems, and whatever that I felt like I was on a tiny raft in a ocean of the unknown. Watched videos/guides and such just to get some sort of lifeline to this game. If I was to compare the two games, Diablo is tic tac toe, and PoE is 3d Chess. Diablo holds your hand, PoE gives you a rusty sword and says go kill that dragon good luck.
If this feels like I am hatein on PoE I'm not. I absolutely love this game! So many things to learn and figure out that when I succeed I feel rewarded that I got over that hill. Something I haven't felt since Dark Souls.
Not to say PoE doesn't have faults it does. But overall I plan on playing PoE for a long time yet. GG GGG
That's why I enjoyed the game so much. I love having the ability to manipulate so many mechanics. At the beginning, it was alot, but I saw all this gear, and equipped it, and watched my character have different stats. I wanted to push the boundaries of my character with specific defenses/skills.
That's why I play PoE.
"Rusty sword and kill that dragon good luck" ❤️
I would highly recommend Grim Dawn
New uptade is out since about a month ago with the Metamorph league, but yall probably already knew about that
The problem is (please leave the fanatism aside for a second) : a game is not a better game just because is more complex, Diablo 3 doesn't respect your intelligence but POE doesn't respect your time, even the tutorial says that you should have selected what you are gonna do with your character in game before starting the adventure, are you fucking kidding me? How Im suposse to do that if Ive never played the game before, even I have played all the Diablo saga tons of hours and Torchlight and I felt UFFF the first time I played POE I can't imagine a complete new player of the genre.
7:19 Funny thing about PoE. You CAN play a Warrior(Marauder in this case) and use wands and still do well if you know what you're doing.
You don't even need to be that good, just know the mechanics and use up some of the regret orbs to fix your mistakes. I have a level 93 Marauder in this league where I decided to go with a random melee skill and pure fire damage. I ended up with an ice crash marauder with full fire conversion and while things could be improved for sure, I still do tier 10 maps with ease. I never followed a guide or whatever, I just did some trial and error.
I could spend days criticizing the game for many reasons, but if you're going to criticize something at least use legitimate arguments.
you can be a marauder caster with the unique that give iron will witch take your strength for spell damage.
@singular on1 what
@@andrea9751 yeah, i got confused there lol
Well this is post Betrayal launch now but crafting my weapons amped my damage by 40k, tho it is expensive to craft i admit.
I've ignored PoE for a long time. Now I cannot stop playing the game. Thanks Blizzard :-)
Thanks Blizzard
@@cefirodewinter9086 I actually came back to this game because of Blizzard, Keep releasing mobile games Blizzard keep doing that...
same 4 me man
After watching this video I will try it out tomorrow, gotta get some sleep first though :D
@@SuperDrAnders I recently got back into it. Has so much more depth then Diablo 3, which I also own and barely play. Doesn't push micro transactions either, never felt the need to spend money.
IGN gave this game a low score because it's not published by one of the big names (EA, Activision, etc).
saying its a good game and giving a 7.5 out of 10 is a low score? Not everyone is going to think its the best thing sliced bread because it certainly isnt
How can anyone give a decent review of something they clearly don't grasp? We're right to be irritated with a 7.5 score. Anyone that comes in to break a game down and explains how it took them 2-3 times longer than the average player to finish it has totally invalidated their own opinion. Especially when, as this video explains, the story is just a precursor to the real game.
@@maodox6312 because your whining that a game ypur biased towars didnt get a glowing review. They said the game was good, why do you care about a review so much? Just because you think it belongs up there with God of War, Breath of the Wild and Red Dead doesnt mean everyone else does. Its niche. Why would a game deserve a 9 or higher if "the real game" takes awhile to get to. If a games content doesnt become gripping in depth and the best it can be until the end game why the hell should it get higher than damn near an 8? No one said the game is bad. Thw dude gave an unbiased honest opinion and gets flamed for being honest? So because hes not "good enough" in your eyes his review means less? Pointless to get upset over my dude. Its 1 review. Only Diablo fana are going to want to play it anyway and already know about it and dont say this review hinders new players from getting i to because youd bitch about "casuals ruining your hardcore game" anyway
Ign gave even lower score to fallout 76, which is a AAA- game
@@eetusillanpaa Yeah, they actually gave Fallout 76 5/10.
IGN is an out of season April fools joke,
IGN is the joke itself.
And IGN's credibility is dangling on by a thread... just like that silly comma chilling at the end of your comment.
Most games journalists nowadays aren't even gamers, they are failures that couldn't make it anywhere else so they decided to come into gaming due to its low standards for journalism.
Which is why Gamergate will always be hilarious to me. Expecting professional standards from people who got their start as fanboy blogger hobbyists is just barking up the wrong tree entirely.
Game journalism is a thing of the past (at leat in this form) if you need information on a title you can check out ppl playing it on yt, reviewing it free or you can just watch streamers and decide if you like the game or not. Why would you need a text description of a concert, in a sun set when you can be there to see and hear all ?
and if they fail as game reviewers they end up on CNN
CraftyF0X this!
I have over 2k hours on D3 and 10+ on POE! LoL I know shit about POE, total NOOB!
Warframe and Path of Exile are the crown jewels of the F2P category.
Sir Caco you’re half right at least.
@@TimmayKane And fully right at most.
@@lightblueghost Hell if you know something I don't, I'd love to hear it! Always room for another quality free game in my library.
@@SirCaco If you are looking for F2P without any freemiums then TF2 and Paladins are good choices too
@@aryamaansingh1894 Last I heard of paladins is when they brought in some shit that was straight up p2w. Haven't played since and can't force myself to come back
Actually IGN is still a joke before the update.
- 75 hours to complete the main caimpaign. I guess if you do it with your eyes closed it takes 75 hours.
- Never once mentioned any endgame in thier review.
- Took off points becuase they didnt understand how the gem system worked.
They just need to stop.
They didn’t get advertising money to promote the game.
haha yeah. *Looks at my 76 hour playtime and just now barely getting to endgame and sweats. Thinking about all the porn that was watched during loading times*
I've been spending way too much time in Delve this season instead of doing the campaign, have taken excessive AFK's, and been going at a slow pace. I'm near the end of Act 7 now after almost 10 hours. Fairly certain I will finish what remains this evening. I can't even fathom how you can spend 75 hours in the campaign.
just watch some of his gameplay, it takes him like a full minute to take down a rare monster. and like 20 seconds for a group of mobs.
Also that he does not understand that his "class" doesnt matter beside his starting point on the skill tree and the node types surrounding it already speaks volumes. Complaining that he has to have the right gear to stay alive. Yeah, well, but he does realize that RPGs and aRPGs usually revolve around gearing, right? No mentioning about crafting and loot. For someone who played 85 hours, he maybe should have watched a few guides to begin with. There are so many out there that help you get on track and give you a glimpse at how an experienced player plays the game.
5ean 5ean
I don't know how the beginner experience has changed but over a year ago when I started everyone I knew told me that in PoE your first couple of characters will be a failure and won't make it to endgame and that held true for me.
I had to reroll twice before I had a character that managed to get through all difficulties and then I still got stuck on low tier maps.
And I had extensive experience with other ARPGs, it's just that there is so much to learn in PoE and it does so many things differently.
However that doesn't excuse that this reviewer basically stopped reviewing the game while being fully aware that the game offers a lot and the reason for their failure was because they didn't grasp the complexity of the game.
I knew fully well that my first characters weren't performing well because I built them incorrectly and didn't understand the games mechanics so I continued trying until I figured stuff out. PoE makes it very clear that when you are failing, it's because of a lack of knowledge on your part - This reviewer blamed it all on the game anyways.
Did you know: Notch (the maker of Minecraft) plays PoE, and he even made a custom item called the Infractem Bow. It's meh, but cool.
Infractem is also an anagram for 'Minecraft'
Any diablo fans here because they're curious?
Yep!
Diablo immortal = #NotMyDiablo
@@mhkojima I couldn't agree more. Diablo immortal is to the blizzard customers as Winblows Vista was to windows customers. as in " We NEVER asked for this abomination level of asininity...it's NOT meant to exist. get it the fuck out of our sight"
tpcs hey at least PoE is far from the insanity of Diablo immortal
any diablo fan would knew about this games years ago tbh
waiting for it to come out on ps4
75 hours to complete the 10 acts OMEGALUL
It took me 22 hours with my first character, now it takes me about 6~7 hours.
Path of exile, mediocre? The hell do they mean!? This shit's more addictive than Vicodin!
you nearly made it into a haiku
POE is aggressively bland in terms of its gameplay loop and objectives...
@@roundishcap then why am i loving it?
I'm pretty new to this game. I played for a bit in Bestiary and now I'm back for delve. I played tons of Diablo 3 every season until the point where seasons didn't even have patches anymore. I must say, path of exile has to be one of the best games I've ever played. The amount of depth and unique features this game has is off the charts. Heck, even trading in this game is fun and not linear at all. In WoW (another game I play frequently) you just use gold to trade for items, and most of the items on the market aren't worth anything because of raiding and dungeons. Yet in this game you use multiple different currencies which are more than just money or gold, they're actual things you use to craft in the game! I really love that aspect of the game.
Bestiary? That was like the worst time to start playing xD (no hate, just saying that the league was shit and besides the items it won't be included in the core game)
Tip if you're not heavily invested. If you sell unidentified yellows (1 of each item slot. 2h weapons count as 2. Total 9 or 10 items) item level 60 or higher (all must be) you get 2 chaos orbs as a reward. Any vendor.
2 rings. Amulet. Helms. Armor. Belt. Gloves. Boots. Weapon and shield (or 2h weapon). PROFIT
It was a nice league for ssf, I guess a noob could have use the league material.
It wasn't great but hardly the worse league ever. We have just been spoiled as of late with awesome leagues.
kreeperrock i skipped bestiary, but not becouse it was bad, i just spend the league before about 500hours in the game and needed a break.
Glad to see you're on this title. This game is absolutely incredible. By the way, I'm running a poison bow build so I'm going to need you to contact me if you come across a bow with 60% chance to increase poison damage by 100%...
Seriously, the game is great. Please cover the update that is going to occur today regarding the future of Delve and the next expansion. Thank you, thank you
Seventy Five Hours. B O Y wtf was he doing? playing with his feet?
Trying to zoom up on yeena.
@@i_is_patrisha2578 did so, still took me 65-60 less hours than that
The best part of the IGN review is the comparison to how they rate Diablo 3.
Things get really really dark if you see that, it gets a 9.5 / 10.0 , its laughable ... and really sad ...
Not to defend IGN at all, but it's actually just a bigger problem with review culture. Not to get into the whole business side of it, but rather there are these life style games that just can't be reviewed by any regular means. Warframe leaves a pretty raw impression at the start: Granted the combat is excellent, progression is slow, crafting takes days, prime frames seem like an eternity away etc. But of course, it gets better and more rewarding the more time you sink. However, game reviewers simply aren't afforded that luxury.
Just to reiterate, I'm in no way crusading for IGN, I personally find their reviews to be pretty off the mark most times. However, I think there's just a bigger discussion to have with the nature of having to review dozens upon dozens of games accurately, when most gamers might not even purchase or play 5 games in a year. Time is a critical factor. Some games shine with more time given, and others dull (warframe vs Destiny2).
I personally find reviews to be a very technical craft. Sure some games are very short experiences that can be accurately assessed after a playthrough or 2, but many games releasing in the contemporary space are real time sinks. I think in that sense, the idea of the review embargoes and rushing reviews out the door to meet demand is counter productive to the shift in the market. They often misrepresent experiences and it's to the detriment of not only gamers and themselves, but game developers who need to appease companies.
The tl;dr: Game review channels really need to reassess their models to catch up to evolution of the gaming landscape.
If someone sticks with a game for a long time, the chances are they really enjoy it, otherwise they had stopped much earlier and simply played something else.
So a rating should reflect exactly that. Played for X hours, "early impression". A long term impression is something different and a normal tester can never provide that as it means you have to play it for multiple of hundreds of hours and pretty much stick to a game for weeks and months.
A good way to reflect a rating might be to have a rating for like "the first 10 hours" , then "30 hours" and a long term one that really requires the opinions of people that actually stick to the game for that long. That would result in a much better and realistic review, especially as a lot of games cannot even provide 30 hours of entertainment at all, and for others its like a 10 hour campaign and then its only multiplayer after that.
If a game can output you 100hours atleast, specially when it's free to play, it has high value...
if a single player game provides you with 100 hours of gameplay and costs you 30 ... it means your getting entertainment for 30 cents / h... compare the price of a movie ticket for example..
atleast that's how i evalute games objectively
but the games i truely love.. to me they are "Priceless" anyways...
for example ive played dota2 for like almost 10k hours clocked on steam... sure ive bought most of the compendiums etc.. considering how many hours i've played.. i feel like ripping off gaben lol : ))) godlike value and replayability (wich PoE also has, not many games these days have that... )
I think you've got a point about the amount of time required for a deep dive review on PoE - There's no reason why an IGN reviewer can't take their time with this game. It's been out for years already. This isn't a day-1 launch review for some anticipated title where IGN needs to have their review out to compete with other online reviewers. It's bizarre to rush out a review on a game as deep as PoE; you may as well not do the review at all.
That Diablo 3 review was written by a completely different person though. I don't know if IGN have some background boardroom that predetermines what the scores are going to be, but until we know for a fact that that's true we need to keep in mind that there are multiple people that comprise IGN's reviewers and each one has their own opinions that don't necessarily mesh with each other.
it's Izaro not Ivaro though
Morgan the Love Organ Ivaro is the rusian version of Izaro
Ivan is russian name
Ivar is scandinavian/estonian name
i am pretty sure it's Johnny
gold
I call him Iolaus (from Hercules tv series with Kevin Sorbo), same person.
one of the things my friend told me when i started this game is to go to path of building pick a build out of there list of starter builds and follow that build for my 1st character so that i don't waist time in making a wrong character and to learn the skill tree a bit i picked a cyclone build and it was amazing after i killed my 1st white elder :P i was ready to make my own build Path of building is an amazing tool i prob spent 4-6 hours playing around going back and forth to poe trading website making sure i don't pick 25 Ex items after my build was completed and i started playing my own built character it really felt like my own character and truly fell in love with the game.
7.6 when nothing on the market comes even close to scratching it.
meanwhile d3 has 9.5
Imagine him only playing without ascendancies and 0% ele Res...
Maybe not even 4linking his skills.
No Wonder it Took him so long
most of ign reviews are a joke. So many times i hear this game has perfect combat, best graphics ever, i will play this for a long time, 7.0 because it's not fortnite. My favorite of all time, they compliment ninja gadien not saying 1 bad thing other than it's too hard then gave it a 6.0.....if you suck at the game it doesn't deserve a bad review.
tehf00n ya ign makes it obvious they get paid to push games. Many of their "top rated game" i wouldn't have given higher than a 7 and 100% regretted buying.
And your an extreme minority. And completely wrong. But sure, that's your opinion.
Braindead people still get opinions though. Remember.
Alondor hmmm 94 ppl seem to agree with me but hey no need to call ur self braindead tho, think positive about ur self buddy!
Tekstil Art sadly what games are not filled with bugs.
2crazt98 If you take a look. I replied to Tekstil
You forgot to mention the awesome soundtrack that POE has, some of that music sticks with you long after having played through the game.
i started playing this game cuz of osts. i was addicted on poe's osts, now im addicted to the game too
Lol did you see his passive skill tree. It was a total joke even for a noob. No wonder he wasn't having fun.
If someone wonders: www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/23/path-of-exile-review-2018
Just watch the video in the beginning. You see it at around 0:45
wow i never saw such a baaaad passive skill tree.. did this guy even used his brain while playing this game? lol ... i mean .. C'MON
My god. I'm not someone who copies the most effective builds but rather make my own.
My builds have been bad at times.. but never like this. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick! What was he thinking?
@@colman123456 I think I threw up a bit in my mouth when I saw this.
that is why took him that long to get 10 acts done
"no game ever deserves a 10" is an opinion I never understood.
10 shouldn't be considered "perfect". 10 should be, at least in my opinion, given to those titles that raise the bar of excellence/expectations even despite their flaws.
When a game is of such quality that, suddenly, it becomes a point of reference for other games.. Then yeah, It may deserve a 10;
"this is the peak at this point in time. You want a 10? Innovate and improve on it"
How often? Very sporadically.. And when I say sporadically I don't even mean "once a year" or so.
In my head I can think about no more than 4 or 5 games that may could be considered for it.
Dark Souls 1 may be a good example.. Or Baldur's gate 2. Do they have flaws? Yyyep... Definitely...
Yet there is a reason if the entire industry was shaped so much by them
I'm one of those who takes ages to get through the basics, I felt I finally did some progress when I got to the 2nd Act... Although I did say to myself "Wait, that was it?", since before getting to Act 2 I tried some characters and spent like 20 hours total without getting halfway through Act 1, I'm that slow
You aced it, good work! Played the game since jan 2013 and I've got about 12000+ hours of playtime which is a testament to how good the game is. It's a nobrainer to anyone interested in aRpg and want deep character customization.
So, if you like a game enough to make you play 12k+hours it makes the game good?
Nice logic there.
I've heard it's more like 13 000~ h
You sir, got no life!!!!
@HoneyButterCashewNut unless mommy and daddy pay everything for them, I hate those types of people. He needs to get laid
@HoneyButterCashewNut more than likely he's reading 13k off of steam and he just kept the game open for like days/weeks at a time. No doubt hes played a lot but not 13k hours lol
Path of exile is awesome, going to have to come back and check this out
As a new poe player myself I only spent 15hrs on the 10 acts and reach lvl 70. I think that's good but the game has more to offer than what iGN is saying . they are not gamers they are normies
To be fair if you don't watch guides and like exploring the 10 acts do take 70+ hours
You can't expect a new player to just know where to go and what to do, they will just spend way too much time just looking at gear to understand it, waste time on the league mechanic, looting without a filter, exploring maps to reveal 100% of the map just in case there is a secret and all kinds of stuff like that
I would know that because that's what i did when i first started playing a few months ago
Love PoE! 1300+ hours! Like you said, I love how I can take a 6-8 month break and then comeback to a very different game, with new content and updated skills.
This review makes me want to play path of exile again. I played it way back when it first came out and didn't have much content and found it fun then but got bored. Sounds like its grown a LOT since then. Though I'm not the type to grind out end game hard content just for the sake of making my character better like most games like this are built around. But I'd likely still get many hours of enjoyment tell I hit that end game wall that I don't care to climb and latch onto as if its a never ending professional rock climbing session of half dome in yosemity with no end in site.
Go for it, nothing's stopping you!
Just go for it, Chris Wilson needs more souls anyway
Go for it, it's a completly different game!
Also an amazing thing about PoE's endgame is that it's not only grinding levels and gear blindly there are real challenges to be found. I have around 1200 hours in the game and the only "endgame" boss i have defeated is atziri which is one the weaker ones. There is even a real questline which makes the endgame have its own lore which is awesome, so i really recomend playing again.
I'd recommend giving it another shot. I personally don't grind end game content that much, in 800+ hours I've never even hit level 90 because I go play new builds instead. As you learn what does and doesn't work as a build, and keep an eye on what others in the community are doing, there's so many ways to make a good character.
I have 400+ hours of PoE and every day I learn something new about the game. I couldn't explore the entire endgame yet.
75 hours to beat the 10 acts is a joke. Come on!
But I recognize PoE is not for everyone. It's for hardcore gamers.
ahh the "hardcore" gamers rhetoric. How dare anyone make/play a game that isnt for people who want to devote their lives to a single game for months at a time. damn "casuals" (99% of actual gamers lol, people that pick up madden for 20 minutes a day are not gamers so calling them casual gamers is redundant) ruining the "true" gaming experience. This rhetoric is toxic to gaming as a whole and utterly pointless. Some of the most "casual focused" cod for example, have the most dedicated, decorated, and rewarding competitive scenes in gaming where people who actually dedicate their time to getting good at a game make money off of it. i doubt poe will ever have a million dollar prize pool with dozens of teams competing at a high skill level for the prize. Id rather call a gamer with a collection of 50 games that they play and dedicate their time mastering a "hardcore" (XD such a sad title) gamer than a person that plays dark souls, poe, and bloodborne exclusively for months at a time because git gud.
@@MoistFishTacos You sir, have very much missed the point, I agree the term "hardcore gamer" is poor and carries many connotations but nevertheless he's not wrong.
The game is not played by people that play multiple different titles in an evening, if you play PoE it's unlikely you're currently playing anything else. I don't consider myself a "hardcore" gamer but PoE is a game that requires a certain amount of commitment (as does getting good at CoD or any other competitive game especially to the level you're discussing).
*Side note* I'd love to see PoE racing blow up competitively, it's very fun to watch as players push to go faster and faster meaning they start to make mistakes and die and as content gets harder you see their numbers dwindle and can focus more on individuals.
Like the original poster I have a large amount of time in the game (550+ hours), but many people would consider that amount of time to be insufficient to learn and progress enough each league (limited time expansion) it's a game that for about 1-2 months takes up most, if not all, of peoples gaming time most then take a 1 month break playing other things (steamcharts.com/app/238960 shows this very clearly).
As I said I agree with you that there is a toxicity in seeing gaming as casual OR hardcore but PoE falls into a heavy commitment category and someone with no prior knowledge of the game shouldn't be doing a review of the whole thing. If you're new to the game then review the early game so you can tell newer players what to expect, if you're a reviewer that has reviewed the game in the past maybe you should play it further and then you'll be able to review the rest of the content without it being disregarded. :)
@@MoistFishTacos lmao a dude with 500 hours into path of exile is considered a beginner so it is quite literally made for the "hardcore" crowd.
@@MoistFishTacos Total bullshit, iam a casual player in terms of play time (2-3 hours per day, 5-10 per weekend) , but a hardcore player in terms of complexity of the game I choose to play. PoE is very complex game especially in hardcore mode for end-game content, and there are many complex games out there (dota, eve online and so on), while casual gaming is Fortnite or Overwatch.. learn the terms cause u mess them
It's not strictly for hard core gamers. Casual gamong is perfect for this game. Put in a couple hours a session and you feep like you got something done, or at least progressed to something you're working toward. No need to exclude other people from the audience of the game. Anyone can roll up a character for some grinding good times. And PoE does this without pandering because the core game play is so satisfying.
Clearly the reviewer didn't know what he was doing though.
It's 2018 let's be honest, Blizzard probably paying people to bash their competition for Diablo 4
how'd that go for them? xD
blizzard doesnt exist, its just activision now
This is one of those games that I put on my list for "Games to download" once I get the money to build my pc. There is just so much to learn and do in this game that I know once I get my hands on it I'll be sinking in a good couple thousand hours into it.
It's actually very interesting to hear the views of an PoE newcomer and you as a hardcore player. I personally also got bored 2 times when I started to play it. But then again in my field of study I saw two guys sitting in the classroom and instead of listening to the teacher they were building PoE skill trees in a specific tool FOR HOURS... LIKE WTF :-) Great for them though if they found their passion in a game. Oh and I guess the game gets better the longer you play it as it's like an incremental game.
Also, Mathil has 10mil dps on his Consecrated Path.
I V A R O
who's Ivaro anyway ? lol
Izaro and Ivara's (Warframe) love child
Erick Travis XD
THIS REVIEW IS A JOKE!!!
"/global 820"
Tbh, 600h into poe, made so many characters, still no idea what Im doing lul, and I love every second of it
I'm over 2k hours. I'm still not smart enough to make my own builds. Thank god Mathil exists
@@nilleftw Thank god people like you exist so I can just look at what mathil is playing and charge you 2x for the items. LUL
@@malgorzatakawken meh pretty normal
watching you play and talk about this makes me realize how much content has been added since i originally played the game way back when
One thing that I really like about the game is that it has its own economy. The fans control what everything is worth. I think that is really cool.
Ugh! I keep trying to wait till October to play this (when Fallout 76 is bundled with Xbox One X), but this game has been generating so much buzz my excitement to play it has peaked. I think I'm going to dust the ol' Xbox One off and download this tonight.
soooo, how is it so far? :D
Uninstalled it already right? xD
Honestly i feel the fact that IGN reviews should alltogether be ignored needs to bee common knowledge
strange, I was in a similar situation a long time ago; I've started playing PoE in open beta, I've made a few characters, but never got over lvl70.
back in the day there ware only 3 acts and you had to go through them 3 times (d2 vibes).
I died a lot, got bored, my build was bad (in hindsight) and left the game.
But I only told others, that its good, it might become even better, its just not for me.
I came back when Betrayal launched, and was surprised how much I've missed. Omg that was joy and a half.
I've played through Betrayal, Synthesis, and now in Legion.
IGN sucks :D
I re-installed the game a couple days ago and I was overwhelmed with the amount of content I had to review with my Witch, who is at level 45. So decided to start a new character, a Duelist, and even after all this time, feeling like a noob, I knew elemental resistance is not the only factor to consider.
Honestly, I am very lost right now with this game, but that is part of the beauty of it, it's been a long time since I had an actual "adventure" instead of an equipment farm run (i.e. Diablo 3)
I am actually having fun and yes, IGN is a game news dumpster.
Are there stat resets of sorts to easily rebuild characters if you mess up? Or is the tutorial stage just so simple to sprint through that creating a new character wouldn't really be that bad of a grind for restarting as a new character?
*Izaro
Not Ivaro. Worst review, 7/10.
Journo: 75+ Hours to finish the 10 Act story
PoE Player: Reaching level 100 in a new league in less than 24 hours
To be fair, most of what you said in your rebuttal isn't a reason to play or not play a game. I don't care if you can roll weapon stats... is the game fun? Maybe the reviewer was just speaking to a different audience.
So, I have only recently started watching your videos. and to be honest, the more I watch, the more I like. I want to thank you for your honesty, and I love the fact that you give no f***s when it comes to what other people think of YOUR opinions. I think I am subscribed to like MAYBE 10 channels. I'll gladly add yours. Thanks for the content.
no other game that makes me wanna replay it WHILE I AM PLAYING IT. i was thinking of making another build while i am playing a different one. i am a big fan of arpgs this is the genre that got me hook when i got my eyes on it the first time when it was counter strike and red alert were the most popular pc games. i saw diablo 2 and fell in love with it and through the years i tried to find a diablo style gameplay without any cheats and when i've heard about path of exile, i was so hyped with how they showcase it. the selling point which is the freedom of building your own character.
The game is so underrated and the more i play, the better it gets. Thanks for this.
Gamespot is a joke too.
I gotta disagree a little, a person doesn't have to be good at games to be a good reviewer. Remember, not everyone is good at games, and the opinion of someone who isn't very good at games is valuable to them. I would never recommend POE to most people, it's a punishing game that's as as deep as it is unapproachable. It took me more than 150 hours before I started feeling comfortable with the game, and I still suck even after 350 hours. POE was my first ARPG, and I loved it... But i hated my first 100 hours with this game.
If not for a friend who played with me at the start, I'd have dropped it after a few hours.... I only learned most of the mechanics because that friend spoon-fed them to me. After three failed attempts at getting into the game, it finally stuck with my third attempt where I got to the see a little of what the endgame looked like. I love POE and I will champion it as one of the best games of my generation, but it's not a game I would recommend lightly.
Not everybody is good at games, sure. But the review is supposed to be for the "masses/average player" and the average player is like it implies, *average*
The reviewer is several folds worse than the average
As a PS4 owner I have just been gutted that the poe devs weren’t considering a PS4 conversion,but today my wishes have come true,can’t wait to get my hands on this
Thanks for video. I might have to try this game again. I must play really slowly then, I get so annoyed when my bags fill up after 10mins then return to an area and all the enemies respawn, I find I don't get anywhere.
The 10 acts of story mode are just telling a story through tutorials on boss fights. The real game, like you said, is the endgame where you'd be crying for a tutorial mode after getting stomped by dozens of bosses you otherwise would have no idea how to fight. But don't get me wrong, I think the story is interesting and would love some kind of webcomic telling Atziri's story and the rise and fall of Vaal. That would be sick.
For new players, you gotta be ready for the skill curve. See the passive tree, don't panic, look at a few build guides to see how the tree is used and you'll come to appreciate it for what it is: complicated and takes a lot of failure to get good at, but rewarding with layers of creativity to take advantage of and really make your builds your own. It's the only game I've played that truly makes me feel "you can literally just do anything". Also, accept that you'll die a lot. The game is designed to not let any build just roll over everything. Embrace those two facets of PoE, and you'll have a great time.
im running a COC whirling blades... not like casts a good skill no it casts WB when i crit and im already in t5 and i hate myself... but yeah i agree with the "do literaly anything you want"
IGN is a joke
Hello I'm a Diablo fan, and I switched to the Path OF Exile
You don't understand IGN flame the bad laggy combat ? Which is BAD AND LAGGY
"PLAYERS WILL ENCOUNTER A SUPER BOSS" at was at this point I knew I had to change everything in my life.
"QUIT AFTER JUST 85 HOURS" of a computer game
I've literally spent 50 hours on the game and I'm not passed act 7 ._. Guess I'm a casual dingus.
you should apply at IGN
That's fine- so long as you don't advertise yourself as some paid authority on video games
I usually spend 10 days to reach maps - 1 act per day, if i decide to clear all monsters in the zone etc.
If rushed - it takes around 10-12 hours.
I have 300 hours and I haven't finished the story once
I keep making a new character whenever I hit lvl 60
All the recent Diablo fail really make me wanna start playing PoE again....
Words...
This game is so addictive! I started playing three days ago and I've barely left the house since. This is extremely rare for me as I lose interest in games very quickly or else just stop and start every few days.
how did that end up going? did you get to be super buffed up dude or ended up quitting?
The worst part about Path of Exile is it's technical state. The loading take minutes, assets take a while to appear and you still get random lag spikes or kicked out of the instance for no reason. Sometimes you're lucky and you get an uninterrupted 4 hour game session. Other times, you take 3 times to log in, Oriath loads for 3 minutes and then the game kicks you out of the server after 10 minutes of gameplay. It's a shame because otherwise, the game is technically well made. The graphics look great and the game has very stable and optimized FPS, especially thanks to dynamic resolution which is a blessing unfortunately rarely seen in other PC games.
75 hours? I'm so casual and yet I finished it 10 hours
Idk about your point about clear time. I have about 150 hours logged and I can't beat Kitava. I've gotten to him and can clear the mobs around him quite easily, but taking down Kitava is almost impossible without deciding to just "die 100 times to get it done" cause that isn't rewarding for me. I'm not one to defend IGN but the mere fact that this individual reviewer put in 75+ hours for a review shows dedication for his or her craft. I love these games. Diablo I and Diablo II were some of the first games I ever played and I love path of exile but.. i wouldnt be so quick to shit on the reviewer for being slow. I grew up with these kinds of games and I'm slow as fuck to complete them anyway.
you have to get gud m8, this even on SC poe is hard, you have to accept It, D2 is easy in comparison. If you want to get better on PoE I recommend you to play on HC. You will master the mechs and understand what is worth and what is not.
I dont agree with many of the maker of the video points, one of which is the beign slow, there is nothing bad with that.
PD: delve is not much HC friendly so be carefull if you want to go there
Team with folks in act ten. He will go down fast and you can move forward to maps.
your build probably sucked, bad gear, low max life, bad resists etc. but thats expected from a new player/first run. I didnt even get to act 10 until my third character.
@@choke- That was my thought as well. Weak build.
Whos here after diablo 4 fiasco?
The best way to look at Path of Exile is to decide what skill you want to play, and build your class around that. Its different from other games where you decide what class (witch, warrior, thief or whatever) you want to play.
As a new player my main complaint is that fights are far to graphically cluttered. I've built a pretty tanky character, but I still feel like a glass cannon whenever I go delving. I get one shot out of the blue pretty frequently. Mobs can either beat on me for a prolonged period without shifting my health much, or I get squished in a moment. I thought maybe it was my negative chaos resists, and so worked on improving that. But even with all resists greater than 30% one shots happen pretty often, even on delves where my character is 15 levels higher than the mobs.
Instant like for insulting IGN :)
I don't think the review is wrong.
He's not reviewing the game for the fans, he's trying to review it for the average person.
And PoE is a very niche game that can vary from 10/10 for a D2 fan, to a 4/10 for a new ARPG fan.
A score of 7.6 is very fair, it's a good game, and that's a good score. Remember, these reviews are for everyone, and if they tell average gamers that PoE (a hardcore ARPG niche game) is a 9/10, then those gamers will lose trust in IGN because it's a niche game.
Your score is purely emotional and panders to a specific ARPG niche audience. It's too subjective.
But then you are implying newbie players can't have the mind to delve deeper into this game so they should trust IGN? If anything that would make people lose trust in IGN more when they found out the game is much more than what he wrote in the article, because the inability of the author to actually does his research.
Being a niche game has nothing to do with the score. It can be niche and it can still get 10/10. Reviewer should know they are reviewing the game for what it is, not to please the readers who don't bother to do their research.
Its not subjective, IGN reviewer did only review 1% of the game. Meanwhile chucking in tons of false information into its review. It is indeed a joke. Although 7.6 is decent for an average and new ARPG gamer, it scored this only by its 1% of the content... Makes you think doesnt it?
No 9.5 is a bit too much i think. Atleast not for new ARPG gamer. For someone who is experienced then 9.5 is just right.
If you are average person, just trying PoE, youll either get sucked in or quit in act 2.
This YT vid, is a bit emotional but mostly right anyways. This is not a simple Diablo 3. The review doesnt do the game justice.
You could say that he reviewed only a tutorial.
Anyways, cant force an opinion on anyone just throwing my piece out there.
@@MrFlupsik I would bet that the 1% of the game the IGN reviewer played is the part most people will ever play.
@@13b78rug5h That is probably true, but if I am playing the game based on IGNs review, then I'd probably stop where they stopped since their review doesn't talk about ANYTHING end game, I wouldn't even really know about it. Where as if you watch other reviews that go deep into the end game of it and spend more than just the tutorial of it, then I would want to see that content too and actually keep playing the game so i can decide for myself how to rate it. I'm 300 hours in and I still haven't killed shaper or elder. (granted my first play through I didn't make it to a T6 map.) and then this league i've already leveled 3 characters to 85 because idk what I want to play for end game. :( Now i'm about to level a 4th so i can have a speed delve build to farm a bunch of stuff in the mines for my explosive arc build. and I STILL haven't killed Elder or Shaper. lol I suck at this game though. I still think it's fun.
they should not review it for the average person. They should review it for GAMERS, which is the market this very game targets.
It also works the other way around. Would you want a casual mobile game to be reviewed with a hardcore competitive min-maxing professional gamer? No.
On the one hand, yeah, it's a little unfair to leave out what they did and to time it when they did. I'll grant that. Missing some of the things that make the game shine definitely lowers the value of a review considerably. Maybe he would've progressed faster with a better build...but on some levels, that actually IS a downside of the game. If there are only a few "right ways" to play and countless "wrong" ones, that does speak something to the design of the game.
On the other hand, they did play it for EIGHTY HOURS. Do you know how many games are not only done, but 100% complete in even HALF that many hours? That's two entire workweeks for a full time waged employee. Most reviews probably don't even receive half that time before being written. Let's not underplay that just because a dedicated player might consider it "casual" or "introductory." Calling the entire single player story is "a tutorial" honestly just feels...kind of elitist.
I kind of like path of exile's approach to character growth and builds, but no matter how long the game goes on, one must acknowledge that at the end of the day it IS still just another isometric roomsweeper. It may be one of the more divergent diablo clones out there and it may be standing the test of time in doing so, even earning respect as a F2P title that resists P2W choices, but it is what is.
so you want a handholding game where you can do nothing "wrong" and just beat the game without issues no matter how little you interact with the game and its mechanics to optmize your way of playing? should try diablo 3. youll love that game
there is an endless list of builds. ive played 3-4 builds into endgame every league only played 1 or 2 builds twice ever and after 4 years of poe and 2000+ hours of playing i still have about 30 builds that i know about that i would like to try this league because i havent come around to do so yet. all of those are amazing builds that faceroll any content up to and including shaper. your point is lost on me.
the key point is that there is a ton of builds that dont work before you have some key uniques. but even for leveling builds that transition into the vast diversity that is endgame builds there is a BUNCH of possiblities.
TL DR poe is no handholding game if you want to be efficent do your homework first.
A couple key points:
-Diablo 3 bored me to tears. I played a hardcore crusader, turned up the difficulty to "expert" (expert my ass) and my health globe didn't sink below 90% until act 5. I didn't even finish the campaign because it put me to sleep so hard.
-I actually PLAY PoE right now with a few friends. We've made a guild and have a few stash tabs and are having fun losing hardcore characters to bosses we haven't seen before.
-You're defending something that isn't under attack here. Acknowledging a game's weak points isn't the same as calling it a bad game or saying anything about it's players.
-Once again (because apparently this didn't sink in:) EIGHTY HOURS IS TWO FULL WEEKS OF WORK FOR A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. That part is more important than one might think here because it's very easy to lose perspective on time when you're accustomed to multi-thousand hour grinds. Again, I'm not attacking, just pointing out facts.
No matter how much one might love the game, there is a physical hard cap on how many hours one person can devote to it and that limit is different for everyone. It's one thing to say a game can't be fully explored, mastered and completed in any reasonable time frame like that, but if it takes less time to finish your average Final Fantasy than it does to START enjoying a game, one honestly has to question whether the "endgame" is overvalued as opposed to the parts of the game everyone will have time to actually experience. Doubly so when you consider that most reviewers wouldn't even give half that time to a game before providing their critiques. Frankly, eighty hours seems extremely generous for a review. There are games out there that I've completely skipped because of a four minute gameplay trailer showing me a checklist of things I no longer want to see in a game. Those games will now never get any money from me, much less anything resembling a review. Doesn't that sound like a missed opportunity on their part?
God of War (the first one, not "Dad of Boy") taught us a very important lesson in game design: You have to grab your players' interest NOW, not twenty hours in. How many parts of GoW fell flat but we kept playing because starting the first level impaling an honest-to-Zeus HYDRA was so F*%&ing awesome? The HOOK matters and it's one of PoE's weakest points in terms of design. The emphasis on "endgame" may be what the hardcore audience is concerned about, but it's not going to keep grabbing new audiences forever. Diablo Immortal may have disgusted a bunch of people into moving to PoE, but...if your biggest audience only comes to you because their favorite franchise has betrayed them then they'll only be your audience until said franchise gets its shit together.
@@therealbahamut Agreed, I played PoE for about 10 months,made 4 or 5 builds,never got to 100 because I got bored and one of my builds was fail (was fun trying to make it work though). I liked the game a lot but the grind became too much so. It is designed for a very niche audience and I always thought a mid 70's score was a must have for niche audiences but will not be loved by all gamers kinda score? That being said IGN should not be your go to for game scores lol (pssst they take handouts for better scores)and if it is god help us all....I look at this game as a grinder's paradise and a great game to stream if you have that fan base but anyone can agree this is not a game which will appeal to the widest audience or is a trend setter in any regard.
I would have given it an 8/10 if compared to all categories AND only because it gets bonus points for having an ethical cash shop and I think companies should be rewarded for that because the industry as a whole is out of control. When compared to ARPG's it is a 9.5/10 as IMO no game gets a perfect score,not even Witcher 3 when that first came out and I was absolutely blown away by that because as you say it HOOKED me in like no other but its balancing and diversity ultimately was rather lacking by end game.
I have yet to see a game that hooks you in ethically,has amazing balance and diversity and can check every box, it just is not possible unless you want to lose money. Maybe some day an ageing billionaire will make something like that as the last chapter of his/her life and make an epic game,hiring all the best programmers/artists/designers for one last hurrah but until then won't see it lol. A project truly for the masses and one which modders will work on for decades because after death the source code will be released to all :P
Yeah that about sums it up. It HAS appeal, but due to the F2P nature it kinda HAS to squirrel away some of the value behind play hours. It's not without its fun factor, mind you; my little guild and I have 4 bank tabs now and are basically playing hardcore tag with our deaths around act 5 or so. It's just...cluttered. Having extreme granularity in progression unfortunately comes with the inevitable downside of extreme micromanagement and that part is ALWAYS going to chase off some audiences. I do think it could stand to make some of the gameplay appeal more visible and less spreadsheet-y in order to slightly frontload the entertainment value a bit more, but every game could stand to do that. For a F2P game though, it is by far one of the better values for your time.
If it weren't F2P though...fuuuuuuuuuck that.
As a massive Blizzard fan, I recently(this month) made the jump into Path of Exile. So far it's interesting and exciting to create builds even if all of mine are crap, it's just fun. Although I'm pretty sure I ruined my first character being too indecisive on the skill tree. Is there a quick way to level up a new character or do I have to go through the whole campaign again?
Update on Delve progress, over on the Singapore gateway there's an account called Givemethatrankbitch which is past depth 4,200, seen on my last login, and steadily diving deeper.
Just got on the ps4 and I'm hooked.
To be honest the guy did play 85 hours of the game. You cant just say yea the first 50 hours are kinda bad but it sure gets better after that.Yea i dont want to commit 1 week of playing the game to see if you are right
The only way he spent 85 hours on this game and got to where he was, was if he downloaded it on dial up and counted that as game time. The first 50 hours could be considered a tutorial but its of a game you can spend 5k hours on and still do new stuff, I understand you don't want to spend a long time playing to then see if you'd like it, would be nice if someone else could do that for you and give you a review of sorts telling you what to expect, seems like IGN couldnt be bothered either
you dont want to spend a week on the game, plz dont play it this is not a "casual"game or a match ish game, its a game that requires you to STUDY EVERY CORNER OF CONTENT EXISTENT dont start if you not planing on spending at least 200 hours
You only go into this game and stick with it if you have the commitment to beat the game. Thats kind of what every aRPG is about. Find ways to break the game, the meta and come up with insane builds. And Path of Exile allows for exactly that. What it does well, it does well, but at the same time, if you are not interested in these gameplay aspects, then the game will probably fall flat for you. And I would consider the reviewer as one of those people.
A quick google search on other reviews of people who play this game for years would quickly revealed that this game is complex and should be approached as such. The reviewer instead went in as if the game would play itself. As a reviewer I should approach a game depending on its genre and what type of game it wants to be. You can then still tell people, that the game is complex and difficult to grasp for new players. As a reviewer it is your responsibility to do that research, be as unbiased as possible, provide different viewpoints and show hand-on-gameplay in order to make a solid conclusion to present to the viewer/reader. Provide information why this game might be worth playing and who might be the target audience. I dont see this in the review. The review does the game no justice, most of the gamemechanics were not even remotely explained, only the most basic reddit complaints used as selling points and nitpicks, while outright ignoring all the content the game provides once you start looking for it.
I really hope they put this game in a reviewer who cares about complex aRPGs next time, espacially once the 4.0 expansion hits next year or in 2020. The game should be a solid 8 or 9 out of 10.
@@pedrobarrosguima Sooo School 2.0?
Downloading now
At 1st it may seem boring but it gets better if you're lvl 10+
I find the start the most fun and as stuff starts flying all over the place it's no longer an ARPG but becomes an action top down shooter.
Same actually!
Not even gonna mention that THICC talent tree? I first played POE after Pandaria where they stripped the talents in WoW. Seeing that massive web of talents brought a tear to my eye.
I feel grim dawn has a fairy great character building system, all the classes and build seems viable in that game.
Currently playing Diablo 3.
POE is the real deal.
Diablo 3 is like diet cola.
how many hours played do you have on each game?
Road to 80k
am loving delve and path of exile. i did my first delve run under level 10 and have no problem finding fuel. i have to stop adventuring to burn through the fuel
took me a while to get up to and finish act 10. I was enjoying the game until I found out I need to upgrade/optimize gear. LOL I got owned on the first white map I tried....several times. I try to stay away from Wikis, discovering things on my own. I'm still discovering new abilities I'd like to try on other characters.
I played thousands of hours in Diablo 3. Then played PoE for many years on hardcore, even did 40/40 in one league. Then I tried playing Diablo 3 again after patch 2.6.1 and simply can not go back to PoE. Yes, there's much more to do in PoE than in D3, but an hour in D3 brings so much more joy than an hour in PoE. Everything: the visuals, the dynamics, maps design, character movement, stable frame rate... simply put, everything is smoother and better crafted. Sure, not enough depth. But the post is not about "D3 > PoE". It's about "can't enjoy PoE anymore after D3".
gotta keep that serotonin dripping.
It's a hard truth, but I have to agree. As much as I want to hate Diablo 3 and love Path of Exile, the first is extremely polished, both graphically and mechanically while the latter is kind of clunky and not very pleasing to the eye. I hate the art direction of Diablo 3, but goddamn, killing stuff in that game feels a lot better. I really wish a big company like Blizzard would make a game like Path of Exile and ensure it's a good experience for hardcore players, but that's not going to happen.
I agree as fuck. Take a like from me.
casual
So you like getting rewards as fast as possible . Nothing wrong with that, we like our games to actually be hard .
GGG released an update that was essentially a massive escort quest. And it's fun. Let that sink in for a moment. They made escort quests fun.
I have clocked 90h in PoW never went past act 5? Why? Because I keep rerolling to try out different things, class, skill, archetype combinations and I am loving it.
You should add that this game is friendly enough for casual gaming and at the same time it has an uber hardcore content for those who like a challenge.
And with community that big, there is always forum with tons of builds to not mess up a character. Part of this game and the biggest asset is that U can be creative and create a character with a unique skillset, abilities, stats, gear, that fits your style and gameplay. Its the core of the game, massive content to explore and to try different approaches.
I don't think game journalists have to be good at a game to properly review it. I do think they should recognize their shortcomings and not blame them on the game.
I'm downloading it right now. Seems fun but confusing. I also heard it takes forever to update if you're on Steam.
Don't use steam. They have a stand alone launcher.
i love the furious tone of the review against IGN, but also staying calm. Thumbs up!
So many great points made! You cant review a game if you have only scratched the surface. It's definitely not for everyone but if you like arpg it is a MUST play!!!!
I started the game and played around 14 hours atm and im in Act 8. I readed the questtext and looked at the skill tree a long time. Im a complete noob at the game, but for my first play through i will not go to guides or anything, i will figure it out myself and play a charakter like i want. It will be a trash charakter, but i enjoy the journey through all Acts.
Then im done i will look deeper in the game and guides , create a new charakter and try to build a End game charakter. After the Story comes the Endgame and the Grinds, looking forward to all of it.
POE is a very funny game and i like the style of it. Reminds me in some aspecs of Diablo 2 and that feel is great.
Warframe veteran here o/ i was looking into path of exile cause i was a bit bored of warframe. since raids got removed a few years back there's really nothing entertaining to do when you sink 1500 hours into this game unless when new big updates launch or fashion frame of course. i was looking for some fresh air. after seeing your review i will try out path of exile.
What is that ninja dagger forward lunge move that is being shown at 8:40? I am thinking of getting back into this game.