So basically Eggman gets betrayed by another one of his creations, except this time, instead of taking it like a bitch, he goes into "ow hell naw" mode and enters a fist fight with Emperor and Sonic for the gem.
Know your comments old, but it's the same thing I was thinking when I first got to this boss. Refreshing to actually see Robotnik really try for once. Got to love his makeshift Egg Mobile.
I think I know how classic sonic got to the other sonics world because when classic sonic defeated the extra boss then sonic and the phantom ruby got transported in the other sonics world which was why sonic forces was added with classic sonic
Just so you know... The gem happens to be the power of Infinite. After defeating the final boss (with all Chaos Emeralds), (Classic) Sonic is then transported into Sonic Forces.
So only that means, that Crystal Gem can only defeat Infinte? (Spoiler Alert) Well, it can warp through time i think so. since Little Planet was vanished into the Modern Sonic world
Nobody is going to praise and acknowledge how powerfully insane and OP super sonic is? He took on and defeated the phantom king and eggman who were both using the phantom ruby while time was being distorted around him and the phantom ruby is op and more powerful than the chaos emeralds with its insane hax on top of it. Super Sonic is a god tier transformation, that in itself deserves praise.
@@jadendafinger true but hyper sonic may come back in the future and it's still a canon transformation. Hyper Sonic would probably solo over 90% of fiction if he came back, he would be too broken and op beyond repair.
In hindsight, this is actually pretty hilariously sad. Classic Sonic goes through all of this trouble to fight off the Phantom Ruby, follows it through dimensions all to be thrown aside so that another version of himself and some random joe with a gun can finish the job for him.
To be fair classic Sonic is fighting with them when they finish the phantom ruby once and for all. Not to add Modern Sonic went through shit too. (Was beat up so bad by a phantom ruby maniac to the point he was assumed dead and was literally tortured by Eggman. Then he was going to be basically executed.)
I like the fact that Heavy King can damage Super Sonic because it uses power blasts (like magic can be defeated only by magic) while Eggman cannot damage Sonic since he uses mechanisms
Actually, not all of Eggman’s machines are worthless. Big arms in Sonic the hedgehog 3 is actually capable of hurting Super Sonic too, and he doesn’t even use any special power source.
So basically timeline wise mania and forces are linked because that gem atop the robots head was the phantom ruby the duplicate later used by the oc character in forces clever girl
A level in a classic sonic game, where you can fly as super sonic, constantly lose rings, and two bosses in one, and it's not super easy. SEGA, you are applauded 👌
TheOPN it's not canon anymore If modern sonic doesn't know classic sonic since sonic forces takes place into a diffrent Dimensions. This Even confirms it by eggman
Ricardo Gutierrez it's still not canon anymore since sonic forces takes place in diffrent Dimensions, and modern sonic dimension is probably a diffrent from the one from generation
GravityZero It’s retarded. Should have left Mania and Forces as two separate things. Mania is great, Forces is garbage. There’s your translation, hope this helps!
*sonic mania ends* *sonic forces begins* *when sonic forces ends* Tails: eh, I really miss sonic. 😢 Knuckles: well, he probably won’t be back in a long- *sonic just appears in the house* Edit: wait no, *sonic mania adventures begins*
I had my suspicions, considering Infinite makes the exact same sound when he uses his powers, but now it seems especially clear that The Phantom Ruby is going to be used in Sonic Forces, and must somehow be involved in the creation of Infinite, or something to that effect.
Here's how we know Sonic Mania is tied to Classic Sonic's appearance in Sonic Forces: 1. Classic Sonic and the Phantom Ruby went to a different dimension. 2. Only Classic Sonic went through the portal as stated that Classic Tails and Knuckles weren't confirmed to be in Sonic Forces. 3. The kick after Classic Sonic spins through the portal, which shares a relationship to that same kick in Sonic Forces when he saves Modern Sonic from a pile of rubble. All these clues tie together the very reason how Classic Sonic is joining alongside Modern Sonic in Sonic Forces. Agreed?
Would had been nice if they try to connect it to Knuckles Chaotix as well for example instead of just Classic Sonic going through the dimension, Classic Tails should had gone with him to the Modern Sonic dimension too then all that's left is Classic Knuckles staying behind. Since Classic Sonic and Classic Tails aren't around to handle Classic Robotnik anymore, Classic Knuckles then joins with the Classic Chaotix and then the event in Knuckles Chaotix happen. Then after Knuckles Chaotix end, Classic Sonic and Classic Tails returns. Someone here on TH-cam also was trying to connect Sonic Forces to the Game Gear Sonic series as well through a theory that Infinite is Tails from Sonic 2 GG's bad ending. Even better if they also connect it to Tails Adventures, once Classic Sonic is gone, Classic Tails went to do his own adventures while Classic Knuckles joins Classic Mighty and the Classic Chaotix.
even more of a connection: When Classic Sonic appears in game for the first time, the song that plays is a remix of Discovery, the title theme for Mania
iv'e just noticed... every time the purple gem is used in the Titanic Monarch fight, after using it it flashes and goes dark for a second and then back... Maybe the amount of negative energy that eggman poured into the gem manifested itself to either A: Distort the time-space continum, or B: Created Infinite's infinite power,(and maybe his edginess) and allowed forces eggman to use infinite to take over the world with. I'm kinda leaning towards B... but if Infinite as a gem could in fact do that, then forces wouldn't exist because he could send sonic, classic, and your avatar to a dimension of... Water? idk, but that leaves the rest of the group vulnerable to attacks if sonic isn't out there doing things fast, plus, Infinite could as well teleport the entire group into the dimension, leaving the world to the bad guys... tbh... i *Really* don't know... tell me what you think.
Actually, the gem is called the Phantom Ruby. As for the flashing, that when its energy was being used as its capable of manipulating time and space. I think the ruby did once belong to Infinite, using it as a focus for his power. But sometime in his life, he was defeated and sealed into the ruby, much like what Tikal did to Chaos with the Master Emerald. The power the gem is said to have is actually Infinite himself, and he used the energy given off by the Chaos Emerlad's to strengthen his own until he escaped his prison, which also warped this Sonic into Sonic Forces.
This is a CANNON Super Sonic fight in 4 years...worth it. Unless you count the 'Modded' Super Sonic in Forces. Still can't figure out why Sonic is not using the emeralds anymore.
Wait, so what's happening during this battle? I was a little confused when it first happened. Robotnik ended up using the Ruby when he lost in his Titanic Monarch form and then the Heavy King stole it so Robotnik and the Heavy King are fighting each other? Or are they just fighting Sonic? Or is Sonic just in the way? At first I thought they were just working together and tossing the gem to each other, but you can see Robotnik wrestling with the Heavy King at the beginning so?
Fun fact: Titanic Monarch = Heavy King The final boss is not a Titanic Monarch form, it's the big robot thing he was inside that you saw explode at the end. Eggman and Heavy King are fighting for the Phantom Ruby, and Sonic is fighting them both.
launch base zone another fun fact: the heavy king, in this new and improved form, is now known as the phantom king, and the vehicle that eggman/robotnik uses is a thrown-together bunch of past scrapped vehicles, named the kleptomobile.
Eggman and Heavy King are fighting over the Phantom Ruby since Heavy King decided it was the right time to turn on the doc. Sonic, having all seven Chaos Emeralds, takes an opportunity to beat them both by going Super and tossing himself into the fight.
That would need some lock on technology kind of stuff. Because the Forces game soft ware wouldn't know if you got the good ending or not in Sonic Mania, cuz they aren't linked.
Robotnik actually has another mode that I don't think anyone has seen yet, if you say far from him, he starts using the Phantom Ruby to charge up at Super Sonic, once he's done charging up, Robotnik dashes up at full speed, it kind of makes it impossible to hit him
So what evidence i found to what the portal took classic sonic to. The Portal took classic sonic to sonic forces to where he met Modern Sonic again and the gem that classic sonic teleported/warped with created the powerful one " *Infinite* ". Infinite got his speed,strength,And powers from that one gem. When classic sonic got pulled into that portal doesn't that sound familiar to you? Its that sound that played when Infinite made all those blocks in the sonic forces trailer! Oh and that pose classic sonic did in the good ending, that pose was from the Sonic Forces Trailer
I really like how you stuck the related videos button right over the cutscene that people are trying to watch at the end, good stuff, you definitely earned my subscription
wait classic sonic cam from another dimiension in sonic forces this is classic sonic and he goes through a portal SO THIS MEANS SONIC MANIA TOOK PLACE BEFORE SONIC FORCES
RedNinjaPuffle 4:04 that sound ! its infinite It sounds like the cubes that infinite summon in sonic forces trailer! Is this the birth of infinite? Is sonic infinite? Is infinite actually sonic that got sucked in the black hole with The purple ruby in 4:04 It would make sense because infinite has a purple gem in his chest & hes time travel through time to recruit shadow,metal sonic,chaos and zavok =O
Mak Arnaut oh stop it, the thumbnail did not show the ending of the game. And the final boss (heavy emperor) was shown in the animation so stop crying like a little bitch.
You two don't have a point.At this time,there are MILLIONS of videos showing the final battle against Empowered Heavy King and Super Sonic. This isn't the only damn spoiler.
+Starbrand Fan DO YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT SPOILER IS?!?! spoiler is just like a muffin you bought it and then you wait for a while to eat it then you're gonna eat it THEN FROM NOWHERE A RAMDOM GUY APPEARS AND LICKS ALL THE MUFFIN THEN GIVES IT BACK TO YOU yes you still have the muffin but since it's all corvered with saliva so you don't want it anymore then your throw it at the trash bin. -tamago2070(or 2170 who cares) GET IT NOW?!? DUMBASS NOW DELETE THE COMMENT OR YOU'RE NEXT TO GET SPOILED
2d sonic games are my favorite lol, so I love sonic mania. This final fight with the robot was very difficult for me. I was so happy when I beat him, and all thanks to this video that served me as a tutorial XD
it's epic how eggman is laughing cuz he realized that there's no way to damage super sonic and he just push him to stall the time until sonic loses his rings
Much better than what Forces got... Super Sonic ISN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THE LATTER!!! Also, Forces should've had a remix of this music for it's final battle, along with a better final battle.
I mean, Super Sonic not being in Forces kinda makes sense since we see here that the Phantom Ruby can disable Super Sonic, so why would they try that during the Final Battle?
@@RobinDJoker Because it's doubtful that Eggman would know that the Phantom Ruby can do that since at no point in Forces is it demonstrated. In fact, the Phantom Ruby seems to behave completely differently in Mania to the point where I'm thinking that it's powers *actually* change depending on whenever it's in Modern verse or Classic verse. So for all we know, the Ruby has no anti-Emerald powers in Modern verse.
@@lunatic0verlord10 is it really different though? The main difference between how the Ruby is used in the two games is the fact that Infinite is using the Ruby in a way more similar to how Shadow uses the Chaos Emeralds in the 3D games pre-Unleashed, and the fact that the Ruby can be replicated,which can be attributed to Eggman's intellect. The Ruby's powers have been fairly consistent in both games: creating portals, creating illusions (Eggman uses the Ruby to create illusions of the Hardboiled Heavys during the fight before Egg Reverie and Heavy King). And another reason they didn't gather the Emeralds is because as far as they knew, Shadow was with Eggman,and Sonic was assumed dead, so they didn't have anyone who could use the Emeralds as well as those two (aside from Silver, but the only time he went super was in '06, which was retconned at the end of that game).
@@RobinDJoker The Hard Boiled Heavies themselves are proof that the Ruby behaves differently in Classic verse. In Forces, the Ruby does *NOTHING* even remotely similar to the creation of the Hard Boiled Heavies.
@@lunatic0verlord10 those could just be an application of the Ruby's illusion powers, like how it was able to create clones of Shadow, Chaos, Zavok, and Metal strong enough to pose a threat to Sonic. and Infinite could also have been powered up the same way as the Heavies
3:22 Listen to this specific part of the music. Sound familiar? IT'S FIST BUMP FROM SONIC FORCES 4:01 The same exact sound effect Infinite used when preforming his cube attack in SONIC FORCES villians trailer. 4:46 See the pose Classic Sonic is doing? The same exact pose he did when he was revealed in the SONIC FORCES reveal trailer! Call it coincidental all you want, but 3 COINCIDENCES IN A ROW!? C'mon this whole boss fight is basically screaming "HEY DIPSHIT! MANIA'S CONNECT CONNECTED TO FORCES!"
*Eggman Uses Phantom Ruby* Me: "Christian Whitehead, Is This A Freaking Jojo Reference?" Christian Whitehead: "Dr. Stylish From Akame Ga Kill Do a JoJo Poses in Some Scenes. DR. EGGMAN uses Phantom Ruby Just Like Za Warudo By Dio. I'll bet These are A JoJo References."
You said, in your defense, that while you were okay with seeing Sonic Mania thumbnail spoilers, you weren't okay seeing Splatoon 2 thumbnail spoilers. There's a flaw here: you posted this comment on a Sonic Mania video, whereas your argument seems to say that your problem with spoilers comes from him putting the bosses from Splatoon 2 in the thumbnail. Point is, your argument was weakened because you used it in the wrong place. If you were to comment this on a "Final Boss - Splatoon 2" video (or something of the like), it would've been stronger. Which you've probably already done, but that leaves this comment.
Hm...it seems that, even though the Phantom Ruby's distortion can affect Sonic even while under the protection of the Emeralds, it seems unable to affect the Emeralds themselves. (that thing at the end is how they used to work, splitting apart DBZ style)
Steventhe2nd well Sonic was sucked to a portal from the reaction of the Chaos Emeralds and what I can assume to be a Time Stone from CD. It's pretty clear that portal is what leads him to be in Sonic Forces as Eggman states "you've got a lot of nerve for a pint sized Sonic from another dimension" from the Egg Dragoon fight he has from the Demo
The Hard Boiled Heavies and Eggman were both fighting for the Emerald for their own reasons. Sonic beats the shit out of both of them. The Phantom Ruby sucks Sonic through a portal. Sonic ends doing the exact same pose Classic Sonic does in Sonic Forces. Seems this game is a prequel to Sonic Forces.
I just realized... Since this is OBVIOUSLY connected to Forces and since Mania's emeralds were sucked into the modern universe too, that means there were 14 emeralds in the events of Sonic Forces that didn't get used... *They could've brought back Hyper Sonic* (yes, I know 14 emeralds doesn't create the hyper state, but the super emeralds do. But Super Emeralds seem to be upgraded versions of single emeralds so there's nothing saying 14 emeralds wouldn't work as well)
Don't Forget to check out All Bosses of Sonic Mania: th-cam.com/video/VDjMQWKxIB4/w-d-xo.html
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ProsafiaGaming pls stop spoiling me!!!!!
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So basically Eggman gets betrayed by another one of his creations, except this time, instead of taking it like a bitch, he goes into "ow hell naw" mode and enters a fist fight with Emperor and Sonic for the gem.
Know your comments old, but it's the same thing I was thinking when I first got to this boss. Refreshing to actually see Robotnik really try for once. Got to love his makeshift Egg Mobile.
@Soniclover 2012 no, the heavy King.
The94Venom heavy king,you meant
Imagined if they stopped fighting and the player had to deal with fighting both at the same time.. true hard mode
Then the classic Sonic appears in Sonic Forces
All of a sudden, the achievement named "See you next game." makes so much more sense.
yeah... classic sonic in sonic forces
No he is in "PLUS"
I think I know how classic sonic got to the other sonics world because when classic sonic defeated the extra boss then sonic and the phantom ruby got transported in the other sonics world which was why sonic forces was added with classic sonic
@genji kill182 chill bro
@genji kill182 oh ok
Just so you know...
The gem happens to be the power of Infinite. After defeating the final boss (with all Chaos Emeralds), (Classic) Sonic is then transported into Sonic Forces.
Possible, since the gem is related to Infinite and cause some kind of attraction to the Chaos Emeralds.
So only that means, that Crystal Gem can only defeat Infinte? (Spoiler Alert)
Well, it can warp through time i think so. since Little Planet was vanished into the Modern Sonic world
You don't say? (Sarcasm)
"The gem happens to be the power of Infinite." " the gem is related to Infinite"
Where are you guys getting this information from?
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT ITS CANONED XD
I see no one praising Dr.Eggman for building a machine with parts being held by bandages that can rival the other robot
I thought it was awesome :0
looks like a failed bog arm mk 2 and it was the only powerful thing eggman had to fight sonic and the heavy king
Nobody is going to praise and acknowledge how powerfully insane and OP super sonic is? He took on and defeated the phantom king and eggman who were both using the phantom ruby while time was being distorted around him and the phantom ruby is op and more powerful than the chaos emeralds with its insane hax on top of it. Super Sonic is a god tier transformation, that in itself deserves praise.
Brownieman Scrilla if super sonic is god tier then think about how powerful HYPER sonic could have been had SEGA not gotten rid of him
@@jadendafinger true but hyper sonic may come back in the future and it's still a canon transformation. Hyper Sonic would probably solo over 90% of fiction if he came back, he would be too broken and op beyond repair.
tails “what’s the time sonic?”
super sonic: (looks up) “half past, uhhh....”
MisterBlueCat lol
It's 8'10"19.Oh,now it's 2'87"95.Now it's 7"10'72.
TinoPosts
Sonic: Uh... tree fiddy
Tails: Uhh??? Oh crud my shows on! See ya Sonic
In hindsight, this is actually pretty hilariously sad. Classic Sonic goes through all of this trouble to fight off the Phantom Ruby, follows it through dimensions all to be thrown aside so that another version of himself and some random joe with a gun can finish the job for him.
Sonic Forces
And Little Planet is still destroyed
To be fair classic Sonic is fighting with them when they finish the phantom ruby once and for all. Not to add Modern Sonic went through shit too. (Was beat up so bad by a phantom ruby maniac to the point he was assumed dead and was literally tortured by Eggman. Then he was going to be basically executed.)
PlanetBloxSteve No.
*encore mode*
I like the fact that Heavy King can damage Super Sonic because it uses power blasts (like magic can be defeated only by magic) while Eggman cannot damage Sonic since he uses mechanisms
If you let Eggman push you back for too long he will charge at you using the ruby to damage you
Actually, not all of Eggman’s machines are worthless. Big arms in Sonic the hedgehog 3 is actually capable of hurting Super Sonic too, and he doesn’t even use any special power source.
Correct : phantom blast
@@alexabrams6392It was a glitch so Big Arms in some way is worthless too
@@theceoofeggmansempire5214glitch or not you know the saying: everything is canon
He absolutely goes to Forces at the end. He does that exact same pose in the Forces trailer xD
So basically timeline wise mania and forces are linked because that gem atop the robots head was the phantom ruby the duplicate later used by the oc character in forces clever girl
Thunder Dragoon yea but when classic sonic comes in and saves tails its not through the phantom portal.
fdan2 oogly bubily it’s the same portal
And the part of egg reverie zone is similar to sonic forces first bump
You mean the pose that's blocked by a video? :/
Thank you Prosafia you helped me beat the game
H o W
@@christianrodriguez581 good question
No one likes Prosafia he spoils endings in games before they EVEN COME OUT, probably secretly works at Kotaku or something
@@EnigmaticGentleman wat
@@EnigmaticGentleman you know, you didnt HAVE to watch the video.
Has anybody notice that the Time was being wack?
You can't count the time,because it's nuts.
The time is being wack becuase its sending him to sonic forces, thus explaining the two sonics
Klaw Schafer he meant the timer
Thanks I know
M.C.DragonMasterX yup, because "fun is infinite"
4:40
I must go. A resistance in another dimension needs me.
Lol that game suck
In a shitty dimension
That’s actually a nice quote in that clip
A resistance in another time?
Just plz dont say that it is another dimension because Sonic timelines are already TOO complex
A level in a classic sonic game, where you can fly as super sonic, constantly lose rings, and two bosses in one, and it's not super easy. SEGA, you are applauded 👌
this confirms that classic sonic is now in sonic forces
Demetrious Dibrell and generation not canon anymore
Yup
Generations is canon. It's just that this is a Sonic from a different dimension.
TheOPN it's not canon anymore If modern sonic doesn't know classic sonic since sonic forces takes place into a diffrent Dimensions. This Even confirms it by eggman
Ricardo Gutierrez it's still not canon anymore since sonic forces takes place in diffrent Dimensions, and modern sonic dimension is probably a diffrent from the one from generation
I can't get enough of Sonic transforming into super sonic being perfectly timed with the 1,2,3 at the beginning
Listen closly in the boss and you will notice.. Its a Fist Bump Remix.
I thought I got bad ending this is TRUE?
Yes
fist bump is a remix of this because LOGIIIIIICS!!! "one does not simply remix something from the future. :3 "
PLZ Tell Me How Can I Unlock The Secret Boss
M7MD gaming
You have to get all 7 chaos emeralds. You can find them in the bonus stages that you play when finding a big ring.
I like how the time got crazy
Robert Griffin woah dude can you teach me how to play forces too?
Robert Griffin Your spelling and Grammar pretty much says it all.
Robert Griffin Can someone decipher what you just said?
GravityZero It’s retarded. Should have left Mania and Forces as two separate things. Mania is great, Forces is garbage. There’s your translation, hope this helps!
*sonic mania ends*
*sonic forces begins*
*when sonic forces ends*
Tails: eh, I really miss sonic. 😢
Knuckles: well, he probably won’t be back in a long-
*sonic just appears in the house*
Edit: wait no, *sonic mania adventures begins*
Adventure is not canon but plus is
Correction: Sonic Mania + begins
wut bout Encore mode
MC-ATE-BIT IDK
@@Hypesutube adventure 2 is canon too
I had my suspicions, considering Infinite makes the exact same sound when he uses his powers, but now it seems especially clear that The Phantom Ruby is going to be used in Sonic Forces, and must somehow be involved in the creation of Infinite, or something to that effect.
It was, but.....it was destroyed.
Well the ruby was taken into the portal with sonic... sooooooo
Yes
Here's how we know Sonic Mania is tied to Classic Sonic's appearance in Sonic Forces:
1. Classic Sonic and the Phantom Ruby went to a different dimension.
2. Only Classic Sonic went through the portal as stated that Classic Tails and Knuckles weren't confirmed to be in Sonic Forces.
3. The kick after Classic Sonic spins through the portal, which shares a relationship to that same kick in Sonic Forces when he saves Modern Sonic from a pile of rubble.
All these clues tie together the very reason how Classic Sonic is joining alongside Modern Sonic in Sonic Forces. Agreed?
Would had been nice if they try to connect it to Knuckles Chaotix as well for example instead of just Classic Sonic going through the dimension, Classic Tails should had gone with him to the Modern Sonic dimension too then all that's left is Classic Knuckles staying behind. Since Classic Sonic and Classic Tails aren't around to handle Classic Robotnik anymore, Classic Knuckles then joins with the Classic Chaotix and then the event in Knuckles Chaotix happen. Then after Knuckles Chaotix end, Classic Sonic and Classic Tails returns. Someone here on TH-cam also was trying to connect Sonic Forces to the Game Gear Sonic series as well through a theory that Infinite is Tails from Sonic 2 GG's bad ending. Even better if they also connect it to Tails Adventures, once Classic Sonic is gone, Classic Tails went to do his own adventures while Classic Knuckles joins Classic Mighty and the Classic Chaotix.
even more of a connection: When Classic Sonic appears in game for the first time, the song that plays is a remix of Discovery, the title theme for Mania
TheBlueSorcerer101 [BlueScr101] yes everyone knew that
i am agree
Also, the true final boss theme has the fist bump leitmotif in it
1:10 I love how Tails just stares at nothing.
He saw a badnik doing something I guess
Dang... That true ending brought me tears to see how beautiful a Sonic can be.
A singular Sonic, one of many in its majestic herd, prancing across the open fields of Green Hill.
Knux: why my ending just only have 1 pic?
Tails: still better then me . I don't have anything. no nothing.
Kanna Hakuya not even a special super form, level, boss, animation for chemical zone, etc
JADEN JACKSON I'm on ps4 😭 and how do you get it? Medals?
The book is called
Sonic Mania and Knuckles lmao
16 Medals. You can still unlock everything with only silver medals. The Gold ones are only for completion satisfaction.
GabrielGamer BR is there something wrong with my game? Cause everytime I get a medal it doesn't display the screen with all of them
1:10- Sonic: Tails! Look!
Tails: where?
Cowboy brickbattle brick Productions pfft I get the joke
Wouldn't be surprised if tails was watching heavy king transform
Fun fact: The dimension this true final battle takes place is a dimension where time doesn't exist, resulting in the timer going bananas
iv'e just noticed...
every time the purple gem is used in the Titanic Monarch fight, after using it it flashes and goes dark for a second and then back... Maybe the amount of negative energy that eggman poured into the gem manifested itself to either A: Distort the time-space continum, or B: Created Infinite's infinite power,(and maybe his edginess) and allowed forces eggman to use infinite to take over the world with.
I'm kinda leaning towards B... but if Infinite as a gem could in fact do that, then forces wouldn't exist because he could send sonic, classic, and your avatar to a dimension of... Water? idk, but that leaves the rest of the group vulnerable to attacks if sonic isn't out there doing things fast, plus, Infinite could as well teleport the entire group into the dimension, leaving the world to the bad guys...
tbh... i *Really* don't know... tell me what you think.
Actually, the gem is called the Phantom Ruby. As for the flashing, that when its energy was being used as its capable of manipulating time and space. I think the ruby did once belong to Infinite, using it as a focus for his power. But sometime in his life, he was defeated and sealed into the ruby, much like what Tikal did to Chaos with the Master Emerald. The power the gem is said to have is actually Infinite himself, and he used the energy given off by the Chaos Emerlad's to strengthen his own until he escaped his prison, which also warped this Sonic into Sonic Forces.
This is a CANNON Super Sonic fight in 4 years...worth it.
Unless you count the 'Modded' Super Sonic in Forces.
Still can't figure out why Sonic is not using the emeralds anymore.
Maybe because the emeralds flew up and now they re lost again, which means C Sonic cant use his super anymore
Modern Sonic uses them in Sonic Frontiers. Actually, he uses them in every major boss fight in the game.
Just finished it about a couple hours ago. Got all the emeralds and the ending.
Fantastic game! Worth every penny. 👌
Its taking me hours to beat this, took me 14 lives now idk what to do
1:12
Eggman: ZA WARUDO!!!
TOKI YO TOMARE!!!
1:21
Eggman: Toki wa ugoki hajimeta...
TOKI TO BASHI
Kevin Gs WK NO
Toki wo tomaregg*
Luke Tillery look it up
KONO EGGUMAN DA
So much detail in the game. This is why I like Sonic games.
I clicked this video then paused it immediately just to say:
CHANGE THE GODDAMN THUMBNAIL
Cosmicon you are like the 40th person to say that
OKEYLETSGO
And they have a reason to say so.
@blue red It kinda is cause it spoils people that still don't know about the final boss
People say that this boss is underwhelming but its so cool and intense it captures the meaning of final boss
1:10
Sonic: OH SHIT HE'S EXPLODING
Tails: Oh look a pretty butterfly!
And that's how classic sonic ended up in sonic forces
No really that's how it happened
Man, that timer is going crazy
Well The True Ending explains why classic sonic is in sonic forces
Good video Prosafiagaming!!! I love your work!
Wait, so what's happening during this battle? I was a little confused when it first happened. Robotnik ended up using the Ruby when he lost in his Titanic Monarch form and then the Heavy King stole it so Robotnik and the Heavy King are fighting each other? Or are they just fighting Sonic? Or is Sonic just in the way? At first I thought they were just working together and tossing the gem to each other, but you can see Robotnik wrestling with the Heavy King at the beginning so?
Fun fact: Titanic Monarch = Heavy King
The final boss is not a Titanic Monarch form, it's the big robot thing he was inside that you saw explode at the end.
Eggman and Heavy King are fighting for the Phantom Ruby, and Sonic is fighting them both.
launch base zone another fun fact: the heavy king, in this new and improved form, is now known as the phantom king, and the vehicle that eggman/robotnik uses is a thrown-together bunch of past scrapped vehicles, named the kleptomobile.
TheredK10 I knew the other ones but I did not know the name of the mobile Eggman was piloting! That's so cool
Eggman and Heavy King are fighting over the Phantom Ruby since Heavy King decided it was the right time to turn on the doc. Sonic, having all seven Chaos Emeralds, takes an opportunity to beat them both by going Super and tossing himself into the fight.
I'm pretty sure TMZ isn't Heavy King, they just look similar. Because.. TMZ is a giant mech so large it's its own zone, and Heavy King is a robot.
0:14 Titanic Monarch controll unit
1:22 Phantom heavy king and destroyed big arm
4:12 True Ending
1:08 is when the fight starts.
Notice that the pose sonic makes at the end is the EXACT same pose he makes when he shows up in the sonic forces teaser.
This might be the first time in a game that ive seen Eggman attack his own robot
(1:34)
Purposefully, yeah I think
It would've been so cool if they made it so depending on the ending you got in Mania, it would depict whether Classic would appear or not.
In Forces
That would need some lock on technology kind of stuff. Because the Forces game soft ware wouldn't know if you got the good ending or not in Sonic Mania, cuz they aren't linked.
@@ryank2780 ever heard of checking for save files in a folder
@@i_am_strixyou have no idea how games and files work
Robotnik actually has another mode that I don't think anyone has seen yet,
if you say far from him, he starts using the Phantom Ruby to charge up at Super Sonic, once he's done charging up, Robotnik dashes up at full speed, it kind of makes it impossible to hit him
So what evidence i found to what the portal took classic sonic to. The Portal took classic sonic to sonic forces to where he met Modern Sonic again and the gem that classic sonic teleported/warped with created the powerful one " *Infinite* ". Infinite got his speed,strength,And powers from that one gem. When classic sonic got pulled into that portal doesn't that sound familiar to you? Its that sound that played when Infinite made all those blocks in the sonic forces trailer! Oh and that pose classic sonic did in the good ending, that pose was from the Sonic Forces Trailer
I really like how you stuck the related videos button right over the cutscene that people are trying to watch at the end, good stuff, you definitely earned my subscription
And with that, Sonic forces his way into... Sonic... Forces!?
TheMerkLikesToPlay Why Else would that portal and the crystal be there?
Sonic just wants some chili dogs
wait classic sonic cam from another dimiension in sonic forces
this is classic sonic and he goes through a portal
SO THIS MEANS SONIC MANIA TOOK PLACE BEFORE SONIC FORCES
yup and the Jem controlled the power of Infinite and the new villain controls the power of Infinite
RedNinjaPuffle Well... duh? This game took place directly after S3&K
RedNinjaPuffle you don't say
RedNinjaPuffle 4:04 that sound !
its infinite
It sounds like the cubes that infinite summon in sonic forces trailer!
Is this the birth of infinite?
Is sonic infinite?
Is infinite actually sonic that got sucked in the black hole with
The purple ruby in 4:04
It would make sense because infinite has a purple gem in his chest & hes time travel through time to recruit shadow,metal sonic,chaos and zavok =O
Tony Richards this is not an original theory, in fact, it's theory that most, if not all, of the fanbase has heard about and accepted
This was the best 2d sonic game for me and I found it even more satisfying getting super sonic before seeing this scene
Is Super Sonic playable in all of Sonic Mania's levels?
Dustin Nunn likely
Dustin Nunn yes
YES
Yup but he cant fly like in the true final boss :(
Yes
I think it's hilarious that the normal final boss becomes a joke with super sonic yet with normal sonic it's difficult and frustrating
Goddammit I'm trying to avoid spoilers and then there is this thumbnail showing the fucking ending of the game
Mak Arnaut oh stop it, the thumbnail did not show the ending of the game. And the final boss (heavy emperor) was shown in the animation so stop crying like a little bitch.
You two don't have a point.At this time,there are MILLIONS of videos showing the final battle against Empowered Heavy King and Super Sonic.
This isn't the only damn spoiler.
Wew you're wrong on so many levels it's embarrassing.
+Starbrand Fan DO YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT SPOILER IS?!?!
spoiler is just like a muffin
you bought it and then you wait for a while to eat it
then you're gonna eat it THEN FROM NOWHERE A RAMDOM GUY
APPEARS AND LICKS ALL THE MUFFIN
THEN GIVES IT BACK TO YOU
yes you still have the muffin but since it's all corvered with saliva
so you don't want it anymore then your throw it at the trash bin.
-tamago2070(or 2170 who cares)
GET IT NOW?!? DUMBASS
NOW DELETE THE COMMENT OR YOU'RE NEXT TO GET SPOILED
Best sound ever.
1:33
Best Super Sonic Boss fight!
Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds is probably one of the most powerful beings in the universe.
In my opinion, video games have already surpassed anime and the real final boss of Sonic makes it clear to me.
gee thanks for putting the final boss in a thumbnail
I like how time itself gets confused in the uhhh "Subspace"
Egg reverie zone is the right name
AWSOME GAME AWSOME BOSS BATTLE AWSOME ENDING I give this game 10/10 maybe even more
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Watch video: 1,000 views
Now this is a very good final boss
NICE THUMBNAIL DUDE
Nice job dude
I saw the thumbnail and i wanted to expirence the game for my self.... I got the spoilers
the fact that time is going crazy in the final boss is cool.
Considering Modern Sonic still exists he is definitely very alive
2d sonic games are my favorite lol, so I love sonic mania. This final fight with the robot was very difficult for me. I was so happy when I beat him, and all thanks to this video that served me as a tutorial XD
Hey, i can react to this vid for my spanish viewers?
I would give you credits of course ^^
1:10 "you thought you were fighting just another eggman robot, BUT IT WAS I, DIO!"
1:12 "ZA-WARUDO"
So THATS why he's in Forces! That's clever, Sega.
All of this because of a single gem
Sonic is back
SonAze Tails fan my man.
Lol
it's epic how eggman is laughing cuz he realized that there's no way to damage super sonic and he just push him to stall the time until sonic loses his rings
I believe that at the end Sonic might be warping to Sonic Forces
he got so pissed off that he gained 50 rings out of nowhere
In order to become Super Sonic you always needed at least 50 rings, and in final fights, without rings left you just die
Much better than what Forces got... Super Sonic ISN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THE LATTER!!!
Also, Forces should've had a remix of this music for it's final battle, along with a better final battle.
I mean, Super Sonic not being in Forces kinda makes sense since we see here that the Phantom Ruby can disable Super Sonic, so why would they try that during the Final Battle?
@@RobinDJoker Because it's doubtful that Eggman would know that the Phantom Ruby can do that since at no point in Forces is it demonstrated.
In fact, the Phantom Ruby seems to behave completely differently in Mania to the point where I'm thinking that it's powers *actually* change depending on whenever it's in Modern verse or Classic verse. So for all we know, the Ruby has no anti-Emerald powers in Modern verse.
@@lunatic0verlord10 is it really different though? The main difference between how the Ruby is used in the two games is the fact that Infinite is using the Ruby in a way more similar to how Shadow uses the Chaos Emeralds in the 3D games pre-Unleashed, and the fact that the Ruby can be replicated,which can be attributed to Eggman's intellect. The Ruby's powers have been fairly consistent in both games: creating portals, creating illusions (Eggman uses the Ruby to create illusions of the Hardboiled Heavys during the fight before Egg Reverie and Heavy King). And another reason they didn't gather the Emeralds is because as far as they knew, Shadow was with Eggman,and Sonic was assumed dead, so they didn't have anyone who could use the Emeralds as well as those two (aside from Silver, but the only time he went super was in '06, which was retconned at the end of that game).
@@RobinDJoker The Hard Boiled Heavies themselves are proof that the Ruby behaves differently in Classic verse.
In Forces, the Ruby does *NOTHING* even remotely similar to the creation of the Hard Boiled Heavies.
@@lunatic0verlord10 those could just be an application of the Ruby's illusion powers, like how it was able to create clones of Shadow, Chaos, Zavok, and Metal strong enough to pose a threat to Sonic. and Infinite could also have been powered up the same way as the Heavies
3:22 Listen to this specific part of the music. Sound familiar? IT'S FIST BUMP FROM SONIC FORCES
4:01 The same exact sound effect Infinite used when preforming his cube attack in SONIC FORCES villians trailer.
4:46 See the pose Classic Sonic is doing? The same exact pose he did when he was revealed in the SONIC FORCES reveal trailer!
Call it coincidental all you want, but 3 COINCIDENCES IN A ROW!? C'mon this whole boss fight is basically screaming "HEY DIPSHIT! MANIA'S CONNECT CONNECTED TO FORCES!"
Hes not dead he just telaported to sonic forces look it has the same pose in trailet 1 in sonic forces
Can we be real here and say this fight is awesome seriously super sonic fighting against eggman fighting against egg bot is awesome
Now If only I could get all the Emeralds and stop falling off the bonus stage
Many people believed that classic sonic shouldn't be on forces but what will happen to that secret ending should scrap that ending?
Forces supposed to be better. It's not Mania's fault
So sonic mania was actually connected to sonic forces
Also the sound the gem makes is the same sound infinite makes in the e3 trailer
... Just a few Hours after its Release and you are already showing us the Secret Final Boss xD
*Eggman Uses Phantom Ruby*
Me: "Christian Whitehead, Is This A Freaking Jojo Reference?"
Christian Whitehead: "Dr. Stylish From Akame Ga Kill Do a JoJo Poses in Some Scenes. DR. EGGMAN uses Phantom Ruby Just Like Za Warudo By Dio. I'll bet These are A JoJo References."
Notice how the time keeps continually changing in the Ruby Realm, with no real end. Damn, that is a nice touch.
In the future, can you not put bosses in the thumbnail? I wanted to see the bosses in sonic mania, but i did not want splatoon 2 to be spoiled.
Lol!
You said, in your defense, that while you were okay with seeing Sonic Mania thumbnail spoilers, you weren't okay seeing Splatoon 2 thumbnail spoilers.
There's a flaw here: you posted this comment on a Sonic Mania video, whereas your argument seems to say that your problem with spoilers comes from him putting the bosses from Splatoon 2 in the thumbnail.
Point is, your argument was weakened because you used it in the wrong place. If you were to comment this on a "Final Boss - Splatoon 2" video (or something of the like), it would've been stronger. Which you've probably already done, but that leaves this comment.
1:44 that should be the way sonic always transforms in game
Notice how Robotnik is so irrelevant in this fight that he’s just a joke nonthenless
I wonder if we get a ending animated the same way for Classic Sonic in Forces once he returned to his timeline.
nope
Yea... the ending is somehow really lame but they didn't gave Mania Sonic the same treatment that Classic Sonic had in Generations anyway.
Hm...it seems that, even though the Phantom Ruby's distortion can affect Sonic even while under the protection of the Emeralds, it seems unable to affect the Emeralds themselves. (that thing at the end is how they used to work, splitting apart DBZ style)
Eggman lied to us. He stated that he invented the Phantom Ruby, but he just modified it.
lol this is the first video I ever came to early like this was posted a minute ago XD
Is no one gonna talk about how awesome the music is?
can anyone explain what happened in the end?
Steventhe2nd well Sonic was sucked to a portal from the reaction of the Chaos Emeralds and what I can assume to be a Time Stone from CD. It's pretty clear that portal is what leads him to be in Sonic Forces as Eggman states "you've got a lot of nerve for a pint sized Sonic from another dimension" from the Egg Dragoon fight he has from the Demo
That wasn't one of the Time Stones, but a new gem called the Phantom Ruby. And timeline wise, this takes place after Sonic & Knuckles.
The Hard Boiled Heavies and Eggman were both fighting for the Emerald for their own reasons. Sonic beats the shit out of both of them. The Phantom Ruby sucks Sonic through a portal. Sonic ends doing the exact same pose Classic Sonic does in Sonic Forces. Seems this game is a prequel to Sonic Forces.
It's not a fuckin time stone
It doesn't warp time
It warps reality
why would they find a damn time stone on Angel Island
*casually snaps eggman out of fucking existence*
Fuck that thumbnail, i didnt want any spoilers!!!
then why are u watching
4:02 "So do the chaos emeralds just resonate with everything?"
Hold on! You think this might be connected to Sonic force?
It is
How did you not Know this before
I just realized...
Since this is OBVIOUSLY connected to Forces and since Mania's emeralds were sucked into the modern universe too, that means there were 14 emeralds in the events of Sonic Forces that didn't get used...
*They could've brought back Hyper Sonic* (yes, I know 14 emeralds doesn't create the hyper state, but the super emeralds do. But Super Emeralds seem to be upgraded versions of single emeralds so there's nothing saying 14 emeralds wouldn't work as well)
The master emerald might be more powerful than 14 chaos emeralds