@@thisisntsergio1352 when Covid wasn’t crazy it was about 8k in price difference. Now those Elantra N’s are going for like 40k in my area and the GLIs are like 30k.
@@swagstevo2442 The GLI Autobahn dsg is 40,000 CND here, even the GLI from second hand with 35,000km are now being sold 37,000$. The N is depreciating WAY faster.
That's true, this Saturday I go to Road Atlanta, to test in the track. I'm crazy go to the mountains in the Carolina's to feel the body roll, suspension, tires and power.
Car is definitely under rated! I ran my friends DCT in my stock Type R from 30 to 150+ and we were pretty much dead even. I’m a much bigger guy than he is and I was really flat foot shifting too! But I knew right there the EN was way underrated!
@@christianservin7635 What's funny is my friends GLI stage 1 (manual) is head-to-head vs a type R on a roll. He posted the video on TH-cam and it has a lot of views as well. The GLI in the USA is 250 pounds lighter and the tune he has is APR which is very reputable. The tune this GLI has is an IE which has the worse reputation. As you saw there wasn't much difference between their stock race
People need to stop thinking KIA/Hyundai are the same as they were 20 years ago. It reminds me of Honda in the 90s when they just came out absolutely swinging. The N division cars are no damn joke. This thing is literally 90% of a Type R for cheaper and the timespan Hyundai did it in is nothing short of impressive. You can see the M linage already Albert brought from BMW. Awesome stuff 💯
@@SergioHernandez-zv5wc damn.. the latest one I saw was oil consumption.... Where it literally uses a quart every 1k miles. The solution from kia/Hyundai... To constantly check it LMAO.
That Elantra N is something else. I'll stick with my GTI though, if I go to another car it'll have to be RWD. Edit Integrated Engineering tunes are garbage. I think the GLI would have done better with an EQT tune
The GLI ( manual) beat the type r on a roll with a. Low TQ APR stage 1 tune. A type R beat the Elentra N on this channel easily. The GLI with any other tune apart from IE or Cobb base map would have won the rwce
Tips from a Pro GLI Owner. Number 1. Use Custom mode, set everything to sport, except engine sound. This gives you sport mode without the fake sounds. You can also adjust suspension to comfort, if you want to feel less road. Number 2. Use custom mode for spirited driving, always have it on S mode. But before you come to complete stops, go back to D, the auto downshift from 2nd to 1st is janky. Number 3. If you really want to do pulls, hold the traction control button for 3-5 secs, puts it in sport ESC. Computer doesn’t hold back any power this way. Number 4. USE YOUR PADDLESHIFTERS. Coasting in 2nd gives you on demand power. The paddle shift are instant, zero delays. Whenever I need to pass on a 60 roll I just drop 2-3 gears and I’m gone. Number 5. Utilize your stock wheels until it’s time to replace, they’re horrible but might as well not waste them. Get higher quality sticky tires. Number 6. All you need is a new intake and tune, now you basically have another 100hp. The N is a clown cart, we all know that, people with proper knowledge about cars know that. You're in better hands with the GLI, even more if you're willing to invest for a stage 2 or 3.
You're just a mechanic, what would you know, SFA is what you know. If you had studied a little harder at school and got good grades at school, you would have achieved something in life.
Hey do you have eyes? Because if you do they don't seem to work. The Golf got smashed by the N big time. VW brake pads and discs don't last more than 20,000Kms. What a piece of junk. $3000 to replace a thermostat on the VW the list goes on and on. VW what a piece of crap. I should know, all my mates that own them complain non stop. Sorry that you're just a mechanic and couldn't do better in life. You should have done better at school. Why do you need to modify the VW, oh that's right, it's junk from the factory. Get over it, the N is a better car.
@@marcolucchini8173 Lol, I make more than you in a year, period. That being said the braking system of the GLI is the GTI R system, the exact same, renown and respected. Everything you say here are opinions separated from the facts, you know nothing and it's laughable 🤣
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer I can tell you, you don't make as much as I do in a year champ. And that's a fact. Remember just one thing you said before, you are just an uneducated mechanic. I have a Mechanical engineering Degree, so that means you are outranked, and that's a fact. I have found mechanics to be the biggest lying K U N T S out there besides car salesmen. Isn't a mechanic defined as a failed car salesmen, always full of shit! Also, the VW got walked by an N how embarrassing for you. You have filled my day with laughter champ, keep it up.
Was that a gravel road you guys were on? I've never heard so much garbage being thrown into the fender liners before. Hyundai is really bringing it in the performance segment right now. I'm glad to see that at least some manufacturers are interested in making performance cars that aren't crossovers.
It’s just a weak IE tune on the GLI. Possibly the worst in the market. APR EQT UNITRONIC all would have made this an actual race. If you notice the results weren’t much DIFFERENT from stock. That should tell you a lot as everyone knows the MK7 with a proper stage 1 tune is far from stock
@@MeltingRubberZ28 no they are quite equal in terms of stage 1 power. But UNITRONIC actually delivers its power well unlike the IE tune. IE is honesty not much better than a Cobb base map. There is a video of a JB4 MK7 vs ELENTRA N and they were head to head. I’m also thinking this GLI was on automatic mode on a roll instead of manual mode. The automatic mode on Elentra N is designed to utilize maximum power. The GLI is not. You need to go manual on the DSG. I mean APR STAGE 1 low TQ tune ( manual) beat the type R on a roll and was neck and neck most the time. The TYPE R beat the N easily on a roll on this channel. This video if anything shows how conservative the IE tunes are
I’m a big fan of both of these cars, Hyundai and Kia does make some interesting lighting decisions however. Kia and Hyundai have become so obsessed with unique and most of the time beautiful LED lighting, whether it be the headlights or the tail lights or ambient lighting. However even the most expensive Elantra does not come with LED front turn signals, first thing I noticed was this Elantra has LED bulbs installed instead of the stock halogen Ambers in the front lol. Of course other companies do it as well, but for example the refreshed 2023 Telluride and Palisade both just over $50k have halogen license plate bulbs, easily rectifiable but still it’s weird….
There are mercedes, audis and even bmw that don’t get full leds and they are far more expensive ! There’s even 50k audis that don’t have push to start so idk why you complaining about leds when you can buy them for less than 50 bucks for everything!
I respect the value proposition the N line gives, I'm personally a VW guy. If I was going to stay with a stage 1 or 2 tune, I'd highly consider the N line. The reason we love VW is the potential. I have an MK7 Golf R with 575 hp and 505 tq . Stock block, and DSG runs flawlessly with those numbers with just a tune, running over 100,000 km like that. Not saying the N line can't do it, it just hasn't proven itself yet... if it does prove to run bigger power reliably then I'd consider it.
The VW is running one of the weakest tune here hence why it preformed like their stock GLI race. There are videos of stage 1 GLI tuned by APR or EQT, beating type R on a roll. Not even DSG but a manual GLI. The type R beat the N on this channel. IE has some of the worst reputation. When it comes to tuning
Tubing hasn't caught up to the KDM cars. Hyundai/Kia ECUs are notoriously difficult to unlock and not many companies are willing to make that investment yet aside from one's based in Korea, or a few here in the US. Mechanically, they seem all there. There's 600whp stock block Stingers in Korea and different versions of the N engine have gotten into the 400s easily enough, but the tuning isn't readily there to really uncork them.
@@mgoad08 my Cobb focus didn’t blow up and it had their stage 3 tune, the gearbox blew and along with the recall issue that Ford australia refused to fix even though it was a known issue to millions of cars. Awesome car but ford customer service ruined it
Since when is IE not reputable?!?! I have Uni stage 2 on my mk6.5 GLI solely because it's the only available stage 2 out there. I wish IE supported the EA888 gen3 nonMQB.
@@punkindrublic001 congrats on the purchase!! Be sure to bring some content to us! I can’t trade in my Fiesta ST, I like it too much! Lol But I will eventually get the EN when they’re more available. I really like how roomy it is compared to the FiST and need a daily.
@@georgevigil7001 thanks man! After 7 years and 115,000 miles it was time for an upgrade. I loved my FiST, but oddly wasn’t sad to see her go. The Elantra N shares many of its rowdy characteristics, but adds stability, luxury, and practicality. It just didn’t make sense to own two FWD performance vehicles capable of daily duty. My two kids in car seats are also much happier, and the wife now doesn’t have her knees to her face sitting in front.
Yea sixth already dyno'd it and got I believe 272 to the wheel no dsg on, so it's most definitely underrated. Honda did the same with the new civic si, not sure why tho. I guess to make sure they are only competing in a certain "performance" group. My guess is, hyundai is doing the same
I don’t think the N products were made for 0-60/drag race? The N would smoke this car on a track. I think that’s were all the engineering was allocated.
@@malice930 and we alll know VW underrates their cars also. What is the true whp of that gli factory? The type r does the same. 306 hp but dynos like 300ish There’s no way to tell the crank hp. Alll we can tell is what it dynos and even that can change dyno to dyno.
That was a surprise, for sure. I thought the tuned GLI would have an edge over the Elantra N. For Run 2, it looks like the Elantra N driver using manual shift on a straight run? If so, without the Elantra N LC, if the driver just let the DCT do the shifting, it would been much closer. Regardless, great video! Sam - glad you were able to properly use the launch control on the Elantra N. Cheers!
Hey thanks for your comment! The EN has a cool down on NGS and LC and I was not able to meet the ECU conditions to activate either of them. That’s why you see me pull much slower off the start then his car which had LC enabled. Also I did not manually shift, the car did it’s thing and that was the result. Cheers.
Would like to see the 2.0t A3 Quattro version of the gli (same hp and tq just awd) go against the Hyundai. Awd would definitely help in this style of racing.
So this Stage 1 GLI walks an Accord 2.0T but a stock Accord only loses to the Elantra N by maybe a car from a dig per Throttle house... I'm so lost on these comparisons now lol. Based on this video a stage 1 GLI should lose to a stock Accord but I'm pretty sure all of Sam's videos show otherwise. I would say all three cars running together with GLI stage 1 should hopefully end the debate if you guys could pull that together. Great video👌
We don't know what tires owners have installed. Weather conditions. Etc. Etc. Also every tune performs differently. They should've at least picked a tune that has a good reputation, like APR. I.E. is meh.
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer dumb azz clown still lives under the rock, keep dreaming about explosion while your azz gonna get left in the dust with your lame azz gli 🤮🤡😂😂😂😂
@@alexcastillo6032 so MAP1 and Map2 run very similar to stock N mode responses when not WOT which is nice. Map3 is only if I'm trying to go all out bc the throttle and boost seem to be different (duh). I am enjoying it right now definitely feel a huge difference on MAP2 over 30mph. Have not launched it yet
The DCt makes about 285 to the wheels That gli is making 298 to the wheels The manual EN makes about 265 to the wheels. Glad to see the launch control was finally being used in a N car!
Probably true about the N about it possibly making more hp? The reason I kinda agree is my 2022 Elantra N Line beat Audi A3 and smoked a Chrysler 300c. But I am running Ruthenium plugs and Amsoil signature oil with a diamond like low friction ad. Still getting 41.7 miles per gallon Average. Of course the fuel mileage these days is the best part.
Jumping in on this one. What is the TUNE on the GLI. i have APR stage and i do not get gaped by any hyundai. im not sure the people that tuned the GLI but if anything i would say go get your money back on that one. My 2019 35an GLI that i have keeps up with stock Scat packs and 5.0. It mite not be so hot off a dig do to traction control never turning off. Ty for the video
that tuned gli had the same results as the stock one xD . That's why you should choose your tunes proprely. APR EQT UNi tune would have been a totally different story.
No it wouldnt have, they all make similar power on low toque file… i own a mk7 gti and looked into all of them, people seems like know nothing about tunes lol, There is only so much you can do with stock hardware!
Hyundai group it's just bringing out some really compelling products and the N versions are pretty amazing! The VW just needs a "Tuned" window sticker that will give it an extra 20 horsepower... bwahaaaaaa.
I really think you should wait to hit the NGS until you're moving. I think hitting it before you're even moving wastes the time you could have it in NGS mode during the drag since it runs out after around 20-30 seconds. It's quite possible NGS could have run out before the drag was even over, since it appears (according to the edit) you hit it before you even started revving the engine and definitely before a "go" was called--so, it's just sitting there running out the NGS at a standstill.
The NGS mode won't activate till your moving or your rpms are up. If you hit it at idle it says " condition not met" . It looked like on his first run when he showed the dash it was never activated..
@@jmk101211 Ahhh, ok. That makes sense. I have the manual version, so mine is the rev matching function. It just looked like it was being activated too early because of the edit, I guess. Thanks for the info.
@@bradleyscarreviews can’t wait to find a tuned Elantra to run close to me, I have awd disadvantage from a roll but I’m still confident my vw would win.
@@davidsanderson6400 I would love to see that for sure!! I believe the only high performance trim available for the Sonata (at this moment) is the N-Line. Which makes roughly close figures as this Elantra N (with the Elantra N coming at 200ibs lighter and has apparently more HP and Torque than stated) So it'd still be apples to apples. However, once the Sonata N comes out, I'm 1000% sure the Sonata will take the win. (Hopefully it'll have an LSD)
I could’ve missed them mentioning tires but, I do know the GLI at least this one which is 2019, cones with crappy tires. With the tune, the DTC might be trying to fight for grip with the launch control.
I own the Autobahn 2023 and it's the same story, probably the only bad aspect about this car. I would say utilize your stock wheels until it’s time to replace, they’re horrible but might as well not waste them. Get higher quality sticky tires.
Can't say I wasn't pleasantly surprised by the outcome in this one. I totally expected the tuned GLI to run away with that one. That Elantra N is punching WAY above it's weight. Thanks Sam.
Just got done watching the previous video of the Elantra N racing a Jetta GLI (stock). I can't say the tune Stage 1 helped the Jetta GLI in this situation...
I have a strong feeling the upcoming 2023 Civic R is going to embarrass the Elantra N. That takes nothing away from this lovely little beast, I just think Honda is going to make sure it does.
I’m a pretty seasoned parts salesman and have spent time working as a mechanic off and on. The car is neat from a brand new hop in it and drive perspective but there is zero chance I would ever own one. Even after clawing a section of the automotive industry in North America they still have an absolute garbage parts distribution system hardly any aftermarket, warranty work takes forever and they constantly try to weasel out of it, and we keep seeing the rinse and repeat game of “oh no this is the engine that doesn’t have problems” only for it to develop issues and become a recall magnet. Don’t confuse my opinion on Hyundai and Kia as an excuse for VW because they have some really bad clangers too.
Not really. It’s an IE tune. Weakest reputation in the market. There is already a stage 1 APR tune GLI that beat the civic on a roll and that same civic beat the N. Also the GLI has had mostly wins on this channel. Beating the accord, K5, mustang ecoboost. Tuned accord. Civic Si, Elentra N line Mustang GT 5.0 etc. On the other hand the Acura Tlx type Shas been nothing more than an Embarrassment.
With those tires, and a poop tune, not surprised. An APR car would've performed much better. Much. But again, with the crap tires VW puts on the car out of the box, not surprised. The N comes with max summer performance tires. The Jetta comes with Hankook Kinergys 😅 If VW would just read the reviews and forums they would know their cars could perform much much better by just spending a tiny more on rubber. Oh well. VW owners just need to budget for a tune and tires is all. Which isn't bad. I'm going APR Stage 3 with the IS38 turbo Monday. I will eat Ns nom nom nom.
Definitely beats the accord lol, the Gli is about the same as the accord 2.0t. You can see races all over TH-cam of them beating each other just barely. The accord seems to be a little quicker at lower speeds and puts the power down better and the Gli seems to be quicker up top Throttle house has a video on it
@@sharktin240 um yeah it is? C&D 0-60 times for the accord sport and auto are 5.4, and for the GLI its 5.6. The GLI is about 0.2-0.3 seconds behind on all metrics.
Hyundai reliability is a big concern for me! The newer vw models have improved significantly over the years in terms of reliability! The gli's interior feels just as nice as the Elantra and more spacious which are big factors for me to get the gli!
Gli is ass, vw engines are very unreliable, Hyundai made their vehicles much better and much more reliable. Gli big and bulky grandma car, looks like for d fusion
My only "problem" with the Elantra is the styling. I just don't like the body lines; the front, the sides, the back. I just can't. I think the previous generation used to look a lot better. BTW, I have a 2023 GLI stick shift (hahahahaha). I was considering a Kia Forte, even the Forte looks much better in my opinion.
I'd rather get a car that looks okay but much much more fun to drive than slow turtle that looks better, and tbh I've seen both of these cars in person and gli is uglier, it's bulky, it reminds me of those Ford police sedans🤣
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer cope harder clown. If you think gli fast then I'm an astronaut. Them shits slows af and one of the most unreliable cars on the market today. VW is the worst German brand ever
To be fair on the GLI, IE isn’t the best tune. APR EQT all are 300+HP. Was he using manual mode on roll? Cause automatic mode isn’t designed well for the GLI
He has to have the low torque file to make that much power, ie tunes are pretty weak. Cobb ots tunes are just as quick 😂 He also didn’t have a dsg tune so he doesn’t get to truly use all of the power the tune gives him.
The real problem is GLI dint use Paddle shifters. The N is designed to maximize speed on automatic sport mode. The GLI is NOT. The only way to get the most out of the GLI on a roll is paddle shifters
That was a low torque file… people just dont listen lol, if he would gotten dsg tune and went high torque then he wouldve been over 300 hp… they are all practically the same when it comes to stage 1 tunes😂
Everyone is bashing IE tunes here without realizing that at stage 1 low torque they are all practically the same lol… i got ie because of how convenient it is vs me driving to a shop to get apr!
Wow I really thought it would be closer. It proves how underrated the N is. Especially with them both being the same price now.
When was it a different price? Genuinely wondering, thanks!
@@thisisntsergio1352 back when they made the S GLI. My aunt got one brand new for $22,000.
@@thisisntsergio1352 when Covid wasn’t crazy it was about 8k in price difference. Now those Elantra N’s are going for like 40k in my area and the GLIs are like 30k.
Lol it's the opposite, and Hyndai is garbage,w e all know that. @@swagstevo2442
@@swagstevo2442 The GLI Autobahn dsg is 40,000 CND here, even the GLI from second hand with 35,000km are now being sold 37,000$. The N is depreciating WAY faster.
the N shows every day that the car has really 280 HP under the hood but the best place for this car is the race track with a lot of curves.
That's true, this Saturday I go to Road Atlanta, to test in the track. I'm crazy go to the mountains in the Carolina's to feel the body roll, suspension, tires and power.
It actually has 280 to the wheels
@@whosdondada sure ? I think thats a little bit to much.
I like the idea of the U drag race it's a short race there and back with a hair pin turn
@@alengreen589 the manual had 268hp and the DCT had 278hp on the dyno
Thanks for backing me up Sam. 310+ HP easily for the EN.
Now imagine a stage 1 tune with thee Elantra n…..🤌🏼 that’s a race I’d like to see again with the type R 🥹
336 using ngs
Car is definitely under rated! I ran my friends DCT in my stock Type R from 30 to 150+ and we were pretty much dead even. I’m a much bigger guy than he is and I was really flat foot shifting too! But I knew right there the EN was way underrated!
@@christianservin7635 What's funny is my friends GLI stage 1 (manual) is head-to-head vs a type R on a roll. He posted the video on TH-cam and it has a lot of views as well. The GLI in the USA is 250 pounds lighter and the tune he has is APR which is very reputable. The tune this GLI has is an IE which has the worse reputation. As you saw there wasn't much difference between their stock race
Lol you guys are dreaming.
Liking your content!! I like the fact you test and drag race cars in variety. Cheaper cars and expensive cars/suvs.
I'm so excited about this race!
yeah, Sam launched an N car.. that was awesome Sam, keep it up and going. just lovely man
Elantra N sound very nice 👌 👍
He doesn’t have the TCU tuned which makes a huge difference
People need to stop thinking KIA/Hyundai are the same as they were 20 years ago.
It reminds me of Honda in the 90s when they just came out absolutely swinging.
The N division cars are no damn joke. This thing is literally 90% of a Type R for cheaper and the timespan Hyundai did it in is nothing short of impressive. You can see the M linage already Albert brought from BMW.
Awesome stuff 💯
Idk Hyundais having some major recalls with cars catching on fire
@@SergioHernandez-zv5wc damn.. the latest one I saw was oil consumption.... Where it literally uses a quart every 1k miles. The solution from kia/Hyundai... To constantly check it LMAO.
Ive seen a video where one beats a type R
Ik they had those recalls a few years ago. Are they having them again?
We're in front of ending of combustion engine era, but Hyundai/Kia are still struggling to deal with Engine mechanic stuff as mentioned by others .
Sam, I'm glad your doing much better on the Launching. I guess it takes a few more races to learn exactly how to best use it.
Very nice I have a IE Stage 1 ECU/TCU GLU it's stupid fun that Elantra N must be over 300hp.
Good luck 👍 Mohammed and thanks Sam . Really it's nice vedio
Very interesting race I own a vw GLI35th so it was really cool to watch these beautiful cars power
That Elantra N is something else. I'll stick with my GTI though, if I go to another car it'll have to be RWD.
Edit
Integrated Engineering tunes are garbage. I think the GLI would have done better with an EQT tune
The GLI ( manual) beat the type r on a roll with a. Low TQ APR stage 1 tune. A type R beat the Elentra N on this channel easily. The GLI with any other tune apart from IE or Cobb base map would have won the rwce
Apr is old reliable
Tell me you know nothing about tunes without telling me you know nothing about tunes😂😂
@@randomvideos21015 Butt hurt because you spent money on one of the worst tunes on the market? 😂
Hyundai and Kia's notoriously sandbag the horsepower numbers. N lines have dynoed at 310 stock.
This tune made the GLI become slower it seems x)
Tips from a Pro GLI Owner.
Number 1. Use Custom mode, set everything to sport, except engine sound. This gives you sport mode without the fake sounds. You can also adjust suspension to comfort, if you want to feel less road.
Number 2. Use custom mode for spirited driving, always have it on S mode. But before you come to complete stops, go back to D, the auto downshift from 2nd to 1st is janky.
Number 3. If you really want to do pulls, hold the traction control button for 3-5 secs, puts it in sport ESC. Computer doesn’t hold back any power this way.
Number 4. USE YOUR PADDLESHIFTERS. Coasting in 2nd gives you on demand power. The paddle shift are instant, zero delays. Whenever I need to pass on a 60 roll I just drop 2-3 gears and I’m gone.
Number 5. Utilize your stock wheels until it’s time to replace, they’re horrible but might as well not waste them. Get higher quality sticky tires.
Number 6. All you need is a new intake and tune, now you basically have another 100hp.
The N is a clown cart, we all know that, people with proper knowledge about cars know that. You're in better hands with the GLI, even more if you're willing to invest for a stage 2 or 3.
You're just a mechanic, what would you know, SFA is what you know. If you had studied a little harder at school and got good grades at school, you would have achieved something in life.
Hey do you have eyes? Because if you do they don't seem to work. The Golf got smashed by the N big time. VW brake pads and discs don't last more than 20,000Kms. What a piece of junk. $3000 to replace a thermostat on the VW the list goes on and on. VW what a piece of crap. I should know, all my mates that own them complain non stop. Sorry that you're just a mechanic and couldn't do better in life. You should have done better at school. Why do you need to modify the VW, oh that's right, it's junk from the factory. Get over it, the N is a better car.
@@marcolucchini8173 Lol, I make more than you in a year, period. That being said the braking system of the GLI is the GTI R system, the exact same, renown and respected. Everything you say here are opinions separated from the facts, you know nothing and it's laughable 🤣
@@marcolucchini8173 Hyundai is total trash, every mechanics agree on that touch grass fan boy 🤣
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer I can tell you, you don't make as much as I do in a year champ. And that's a fact. Remember just one thing you said before, you are just an uneducated mechanic. I have a Mechanical engineering Degree, so that means you are outranked, and that's a fact. I have found mechanics to be the biggest lying K U N T S out there besides car salesmen. Isn't a mechanic defined as a failed car salesmen, always full of shit! Also, the VW got walked by an N how embarrassing for you. You have filled my day with laughter champ, keep it up.
Was that a gravel road you guys were on? I've never heard so much garbage being thrown into the fender liners before. Hyundai is really bringing it in the performance segment right now. I'm glad to see that at least some manufacturers are interested in making performance cars that aren't crossovers.
The Elantra N is a great car. Definitely more focused vs GLI. However, I prefer the EA888 engine, DSG transmission and the design.
Why!!!!!
It’s just a weak IE tune on the GLI. Possibly the worst in the market. APR EQT UNITRONIC all would have made this an actual race. If you notice the results weren’t much DIFFERENT from stock. That should tell you a lot as everyone knows the MK7 with a proper stage 1 tune is far from stock
@@sharktin240 surprised you're saying IE makes less than Unitronic. Isn't unitronic like the lowest numbers of all?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 no they are quite equal in terms of stage 1 power. But UNITRONIC actually delivers its power well unlike the IE tune. IE is honesty not much better than a Cobb base map. There is a video of a JB4 MK7 vs ELENTRA N and they were head to head. I’m also thinking this GLI was on automatic mode on a roll instead of manual mode. The automatic mode on Elentra N is designed to utilize maximum power. The GLI is not. You need to go manual on the DSG. I mean APR STAGE 1 low TQ tune ( manual) beat the type R on a roll and was neck and neck most the time. The TYPE R beat the N easily on a roll on this channel. This video if anything shows how conservative the IE tunes are
you should put the accord 2.0t against the elantra would be a really good race or put the civic tuned
I don't think so. EN would easily win
Throttle house did this recently elantra beat it in every aspects especially the roll race
Always have the best match ups.
Did he just tune the engine or the dsg as well? Makes a big difference.
Does everyone usually tune.their GLIs on 93 octane or can they still make good power with a couple mods on 87 regular gas?
Any chance of knowing which rear lip spoiler on the GLI?
I’m a big fan of both of these cars, Hyundai and Kia does make some interesting lighting decisions however. Kia and Hyundai have become so obsessed with unique and most of the time beautiful LED lighting, whether it be the headlights or the tail lights or ambient lighting. However even the most expensive Elantra does not come with LED front turn signals, first thing I noticed was this Elantra has LED bulbs installed instead of the stock halogen Ambers in the front lol. Of course other companies do it as well, but for example the refreshed 2023 Telluride and Palisade both just over $50k have halogen license plate bulbs, easily rectifiable but still it’s weird….
There are mercedes, audis and even bmw that don’t get full leds and they are far more expensive ! There’s even 50k audis that don’t have push to start so idk why you complaining about leds when you can buy them for less than 50 bucks for everything!
This guys probably running some piss water 87 octane tune because that GLI looks stock slow. Needs an EQT E30 or E85 tune and a DSG flash.
I respect the value proposition the N line gives, I'm personally a VW guy. If I was going to stay with a stage 1 or 2 tune, I'd highly consider the N line. The reason we love VW is the potential. I have an MK7 Golf R with 575 hp and 505 tq . Stock block, and DSG runs flawlessly with those numbers with just a tune, running over 100,000 km like that. Not saying the N line can't do it, it just hasn't proven itself yet... if it does prove to run bigger power reliably then I'd consider it.
The VW is running one of the weakest tune here hence why it preformed like their stock GLI race. There are videos of stage 1 GLI tuned by APR or EQT, beating type R on a roll. Not even DSG but a manual GLI. The type R beat the N on this channel. IE has some of the worst reputation. When it comes to tuning
Worst reputation? Idk about that...IE cars may not be setting WRs but they also aren't out there blowing up like APR and Cobb tuned cars either.
@@mgoad08 every tuner blows up cars. Apr cars are fine. The only Cobb cars that blow up are the ones that run other hardware with Cobb software.
Tubing hasn't caught up to the KDM cars. Hyundai/Kia ECUs are notoriously difficult to unlock and not many companies are willing to make that investment yet aside from one's based in Korea, or a few here in the US. Mechanically, they seem all there. There's 600whp stock block Stingers in Korea and different versions of the N engine have gotten into the 400s easily enough, but the tuning isn't readily there to really uncork them.
@@mgoad08 my Cobb focus didn’t blow up and it had their stage 3 tune, the gearbox blew and along with the recall issue that Ford australia refused to fix even though it was a known issue to millions of cars. Awesome car but ford customer service ruined it
This was a big surprise to me! I thought the VW would for sure be faster!
Would have been nice if the GLI had more reputable tuner. APR or Unitronic Stage 1+.
Since when is IE not reputable?!?! I have Uni stage 2 on my mk6.5 GLI solely because it's the only available stage 2 out there. I wish IE supported the EA888 gen3 nonMQB.
@@klaveren3108 APR has a stage two for MK6 Gen 3 as well. Unitronic also offers stage 3 for Mk6 Gen 3.
@@derek8425 negative, they caved to the EPA and pulled it.
@@klaveren3108 Might want to look again. Just checked...
@@derek8425 go back, keep scrolling, look for software pricing guide, and as I mentioned, stage 2 is discontinued.
Sam Hyundai will have to sponsor you with all the wins your getting. I'm pretty sure you sold some folks on that Elantra.
He def sold me but they're so hard to find. I haven't been this excited for a car since I bought my Fiesta ST!
Definitely agree with this
@@georgevigil7001 I just traded in my Fiesta ST for a MT Elantra N 48 hours ago, no regrets!
@@punkindrublic001 congrats on the purchase!! Be sure to bring some content to us!
I can’t trade in my Fiesta ST, I like it too much! Lol But I will eventually get the EN when they’re more available. I really like how roomy it is compared to the FiST and need a daily.
@@georgevigil7001 thanks man! After 7 years and 115,000 miles it was time for an upgrade. I loved my FiST, but oddly wasn’t sad to see her go. The Elantra N shares many of its rowdy characteristics, but adds stability, luxury, and practicality. It just didn’t make sense to own two FWD performance vehicles capable of daily duty. My two kids in car seats are also much happier, and the wife now doesn’t have her knees to her face sitting in front.
Yea sixth already dyno'd it and got I believe 272 to the wheel no dsg on, so it's most definitely underrated. Honda did the same with the new civic si, not sure why tho. I guess to make sure they are only competing in a certain "performance" group. My guess is, hyundai is doing the same
Man, that Elantra N is crazy underrated! Anyone who's seen them at autocross can tell you that.
You guys send give the track and sweep🤣 bs aside good fucken video the N a beast!!
I don’t think the N products were made for 0-60/drag race? The N would smoke this car on a track. I think that’s were all the engineering was allocated.
Why's that? GLI has dynamic chassis control, LSD, Golf R brakes
@@MeltingRubberZ28 probably because the N is much more of a focused driver/track car.
Cant wait for a tuned Elantra N vs.... i really thought the VW would take it.
The.real hp of the N dct is more like 336
@@doom5489 its 285ish to the wheels for the DCT.
@@RcCrawlerGuy He's stating that Hyundai underrated the car. It has more horsepower than the manufacturer suggests
@@RcCrawlerGuy so that's like what 327 hp? Close to what I mentioned
@@malice930 and we alll know VW underrates their cars also. What is the true whp of that gli factory?
The type r does the same. 306 hp but dynos like 300ish
There’s no way to tell the crank hp. Alll we can tell is what it dynos and even that can change dyno to dyno.
That was a surprise, for sure. I thought the tuned GLI would have an edge over the Elantra N. For Run 2, it looks like the Elantra N driver using manual shift on a straight run? If so, without the Elantra N LC, if the driver just let the DCT do the shifting, it would been much closer. Regardless, great video! Sam - glad you were able to properly use the launch control on the Elantra N. Cheers!
The GLI needs a TCU tune to be able to fully take advantage of the upgraded power from going Stage 1. The TCU tune really makes a huge difference
Hey thanks for your comment! The EN has a cool down on NGS and LC and I was not able to meet the ECU conditions to activate either of them. That’s why you see me pull much slower off the start then his car which had LC enabled. Also I did not manually shift, the car did it’s thing and that was the result. Cheers.
@@Momospeare I like ur name 😂
@@muneerkhan7 thank you
@@Momospeare where'd you get that front liscense plate bracket from?
Thanks for having me Sam!
Your car looks very nice! Should have been an easy win. Blue is a nice color
@@sharktin240 thank you so much!
@@Momospeare I am an MK7 fan but I got to admit your N looks great! The GLI looks great too! Both great fast cars
@@mk7gti533 thank you
Would like to see the 2.0t A3 Quattro version of the gli (same hp and tq just awd) go against the Hyundai. Awd would definitely help in this style of racing.
Are those true 1/4 mile runs?
Let’s go!
So this Stage 1 GLI walks an Accord 2.0T but a stock Accord only loses to the Elantra N by maybe a car from a dig per Throttle house... I'm so lost on these comparisons now lol. Based on this video a stage 1 GLI should lose to a stock Accord but I'm pretty sure all of Sam's videos show otherwise. I would say all three cars running together with GLI stage 1 should hopefully end the debate if you guys could pull that together. Great video👌
to be fair we do not know exact power figures, the gli could be on APR+ which is not a very high powered tune.
We don't know what tires owners have installed. Weather conditions. Etc. Etc. Also every tune performs differently. They should've at least picked a tune that has a good reputation, like APR. I.E. is meh.
Lmao and what if EN gets a tune, bye bye 🤣🤡
@@i.d.6492 Tuning a Hyundai ah ah ah ! I would love to watch this clown cart explode 🤣🤣🤣
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer dumb azz clown still lives under the rock, keep dreaming about explosion while your azz gonna get left in the dust with your lame azz gli 🤮🤡😂😂😂😂
GO N 💙
Nice race! Put the kia k5 gt or sonata n line against it. Most likely the elentra N will take them.
I got a Kona N with JB4 running Map3. Wish I was closer
How do you like the jb4 tune??
@@alexcastillo6032 so MAP1 and Map2 run very similar to stock N mode responses when not WOT which is nice. Map3 is only if I'm trying to go all out bc the throttle and boost seem to be different (duh). I am enjoying it right now definitely feel a huge difference on MAP2 over 30mph. Have not launched it yet
You in Cali? I’ll run you with my stage 2 A3
Wow that N is no joke
The DCt makes about 285 to the wheels
That gli is making 298 to the wheels
The manual EN makes about 265 to the wheels.
Glad to see the launch control was finally being used in a N car!
Gli is making 298 to the crank dork
@@LoXHumaN somebody is pissed 🤣 tuned GLI is still slower then a stock Hyundai 🤣 awww. 🤣
@@RcCrawlerGuy my tuned gli would fuck up an Elantra or veloster n lmao
@@Jake-jj3gr You mean the standard Elantra not the N. Enjoy your sweet dreams
@@noobz5056 I push 350 whp for $5,000 less than a Elantra n
Dope race never heard of a 4 cinder tho pretty impressive for Volkswagen 😂
Now we need Elantra N vs Golf R
From a dig using launch control, the R will smoke the N...
Probably true about the N about it possibly making more hp?
The reason I kinda agree is my 2022 Elantra N Line beat Audi A3 and smoked a Chrysler 300c. But I am running Ruthenium plugs and Amsoil signature oil with a diamond like low friction ad. Still getting 41.7 miles per gallon Average. Of course the fuel mileage these days is the best part.
oh yeah it makes more hp it dynos 280 at the wheels but thats the dct the manual dynos at 265 whp
Elantra N DCT vs Kia Stinger GT Series next please Sam.
Stinger GT is definitely faster
@@vadim7131 I want all the Elantra N DCT owners put to shame.
@@lukemothug why? lol
@@DriverJ-N probably owns a gli
Albert Bierman…
Jumping in on this one. What is the TUNE on the GLI. i have APR stage and i do not get gaped by any hyundai. im not sure the people that tuned the GLI but if anything i would say go get your money back on that one. My 2019 35an GLI that i have keeps up with stock Scat packs and 5.0. It mite not be so hot off a dig do to traction control never turning off. Ty for the video
IE stage 1
@@NBABY-J No. just being a internet bully. im guessing you have a N?
IE stage 1 91 octane low torque. If he would have the high torque file with the dsg tune, it’d be a completely different result
298 BRAKE HP AND 348 TORGUE ..for the Jetta...for sure the Elantra N....IS underated
They are, specifically the dct has been hitting the dyno around around 275 whp so they more around 320hp stock.
Would like to see a 2.0t Accord sport vs this Elantra N1.
that tuned gli had the same results as the stock one xD . That's why you should choose your tunes proprely. APR EQT UNi tune would have been a totally different story.
No it wouldnt have, they all make similar power on low toque file… i own a mk7 gti and looked into all of them, people seems like know nothing about tunes lol,
There is only so much you can do with stock hardware!
@@randomvideos21015 i own a mk7 gti too, and if you see no difference between those tunes, then you certanily need to check your car man
Elantra N vs Sonata n line or k5 GT please
Hyundai group it's just bringing out some really compelling products and the N versions are pretty amazing! The VW just needs a "Tuned" window sticker that will give it an extra 20 horsepower... bwahaaaaaa.
I really think you should wait to hit the NGS until you're moving. I think hitting it before you're even moving wastes the time you could have it in NGS mode during the drag since it runs out after around 20-30 seconds. It's quite possible NGS could have run out before the drag was even over, since it appears (according to the edit) you hit it before you even started revving the engine and definitely before a "go" was called--so, it's just sitting there running out the NGS at a standstill.
The NGS mode won't activate till your moving or your rpms are up. If you hit it at idle it says " condition not met" . It looked like on his first run when he showed the dash it was never activated..
@@jmk101211 Ahhh, ok. That makes sense. I have the manual version, so mine is the rev matching function. It just looked like it was being activated too early because of the edit, I guess. Thanks for the info.
Really depends what tune the gli is on whether it wins or loses
@Ed Findlay what?
@@LoXHumaN Either way, the Elantra has more power and if you tune, cya vw.
@@bradleyscarreviews can’t wait to find a tuned Elantra to run close to me, I have awd disadvantage from a roll but I’m still confident my vw would win.
@@LoXHumaN why though? The Elantra N already has underrated Hp and Trq? Not to mention, the Kia k5 GT absolutely smokes the GLI.
@@bradleyscarreviews It's a Kia though. They don't look bad, but I'd never buy any Kia products
I'd love to see a Stage 3 Tuned Honda Accord 2.0T vs the Hyundai Elantra N, that would be an epic race!
Then you need the Sonata N... apples to apples..
@@davidsanderson6400 I would love to see that for sure!! I believe the only high performance trim available for the Sonata (at this moment) is the N-Line. Which makes roughly close figures as this Elantra N (with the Elantra N coming at 200ibs lighter and has apparently more HP and Torque than stated) So it'd still be apples to apples.
However, once the Sonata N comes out, I'm 1000% sure the Sonata will take the win. (Hopefully it'll have an LSD)
@@Soulmatic25 absolutely correct.
My bad... Sonata N Line.
@@Soulmatic25 The Elantra N does have a LSD!!!
@@davidsanderson6400 I honestly want one so bad, but they're so hard to find and the dealer mark up is mad crazy 😭.
I could’ve missed them mentioning tires but, I do know the GLI at least this one which is 2019, cones with crappy tires. With the tune, the DTC might be trying to fight for grip with the launch control.
I own the Autobahn 2023 and it's the same story, probably the only bad aspect about this car. I would say utilize your stock wheels until it’s time to replace, they’re horrible but might as well not waste them. Get higher quality sticky tires.
it makes 275 south Korean horsepower🐎
Can't say I wasn't pleasantly surprised by the outcome in this one. I totally expected the tuned GLI to run away with that one. That Elantra N is punching WAY above it's weight. Thanks Sam.
The claim of 274hp is probably wheel HP so is over 300hp
Elantra N made in S. Korea tested in Germany
Just got done watching the previous video of the Elantra N racing a Jetta GLI (stock). I can't say the tune Stage 1 helped the Jetta GLI in this situation...
The stage 2 is doing the job just fine.
Sam, N vs Stinger plz
I have a strong feeling the upcoming 2023 Civic R is going to embarrass the Elantra N. That takes nothing away from this lovely little beast, I just think Honda is going to make sure it does.
for sure it will be faster (assuming it will be faster than the previous gen), but embarrass? I don't think so, not unless they are priced the same.
It better for what it’s gonna cost. It still won’t embarrass the N.
I’m a pretty seasoned parts salesman and have spent time working as a mechanic off and on. The car is neat from a brand new hop in it and drive perspective but there is zero chance I would ever own one. Even after clawing a section of the automotive industry in North America they still have an absolute garbage parts distribution system hardly any aftermarket, warranty work takes forever and they constantly try to weasel out of it, and we keep seeing the rinse and repeat game of “oh no this is the engine that doesn’t have problems” only for it to develop issues and become a recall magnet. Don’t confuse my opinion on Hyundai and Kia as an excuse for VW because they have some really bad clangers too.
Sam always struggles launching these cars but still great race and I expected Elantra N to take it so this just confirms it.
Track weather was cold and I think that also was hard on the GLI. Would love to do a re run with more cars in the summer!
Why does the interior in the n sound like its gonna fall apart. For a 36 grand? Sounds like my 100000 mile chrysler when its going over bumps.
Hyundai is bad, always been. The N is having major issues. I am surprised, nobody is talking about it.
VW guys are gonna have a meltdown in this one. 😂
Not really. It’s an IE tune. Weakest reputation in the market. There is already a stage 1 APR tune GLI that beat the civic on a roll and that same civic beat the N. Also the GLI has had mostly wins on this channel. Beating the accord, K5, mustang ecoboost. Tuned accord. Civic Si, Elentra N line Mustang GT 5.0 etc. On the other hand the Acura Tlx type Shas been nothing more than an Embarrassment.
With those tires, and a poop tune, not surprised. An APR car would've performed much better. Much. But again, with the crap tires VW puts on the car out of the box, not surprised. The N comes with max summer performance tires. The Jetta comes with Hankook Kinergys 😅 If VW would just read the reviews and forums they would know their cars could perform much much better by just spending a tiny more on rubber. Oh well. VW owners just need to budget for a tune and tires is all. Which isn't bad.
I'm going APR Stage 3 with the IS38 turbo Monday. I will eat Ns nom nom nom.
@@ruthlessruth846every car you named there are slower than the N stock for stock
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Bro do the accord 2.0t vs the Elantra N
The GLI already beat the 2.0 in another video so...why?
You should race a kia stinger gt or gt line vs hyundai elantra N.
Kia Stinger would take the Elantra N - two different classes, my friend.
@@sirprince888 what about kia stinger gt line?
@@gabrielyoung7504 Perhaps the Stinger GT-Line without AWD option. Then.... this would be a fair match-up.
@@sirprince888 still a race worth seeing.
I like the GLI. But it's getting gapped. We already saw it get gapped. What's the point of it again
Elantra N vs Acord 2.0 ? Id like to see that,
I want to see the Elantra N vs the WRX manual. I feel if the wrx get a good launch it may win
Wrx is a 14sec car. Stock vs stock it will lose to the n.
What? The GLI stock beat the WRX on the roll 🤣
Elantra vs veloster n
What about comparison in build quality?
😴😴😴😴😴😴😴🥱🥱🥱🥱
Hyundai is laughing material, leave it at that.
Why aren't you using the NGrin Shift button??
It was used for the first dig and the roll but the second dig I couldn’t use it due to the track conditions/car restriction.
@@Momospeare ahhhh, okay got it 👍🏼
@@Momospeare I work for Hyundai, that is why I was asking...no worries.
Want to see EN VS 330i
2022 Lexus LC500 vs Jaguar F-Type
Dude, it makes what Hyundai says it does. The Veloster N does the same thing.
I’m curious if the Elantra N can beat the Accord 2.0. The Elantra is proving to punch far above its weight, but so does the Accord 2.0.
Of course it will, the stock gli is only slightly slower than the accord.
Definitely beats the accord lol, the Gli is about the same as the accord 2.0t. You can see races all over TH-cam of them beating each other just barely. The accord seems to be a little quicker at lower speeds and puts the power down better and the Gli seems to be quicker up top
Throttle house has a video on it
This is the perfect statement. The Accord launches better but the GLI has better top end. Which is why they literally trap the same speed of 102-103.
@@macaron3141592653 GLI is not slower than accord
@@sharktin240 um yeah it is? C&D 0-60 times for the accord sport and auto are 5.4, and for the GLI its 5.6. The GLI is about 0.2-0.3 seconds behind on all metrics.
Hyundai reliability is a big concern for me! The newer vw models have improved significantly over the years in terms of reliability! The gli's interior feels just as nice as the Elantra and more spacious which are big factors for me to get the gli!
Gli is ass, vw engines are very unreliable, Hyundai made their vehicles much better and much more reliable. Gli big and bulky grandma car, looks like for d fusion
@@i.d.6492 Gibberish, you clearly have any proper knowledge 🤣
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer cope harder npc
@@i.d.6492 VW > hYuNdAi 🤣
My only "problem" with the Elantra is the styling. I just don't like the body lines; the front, the sides, the back. I just can't. I think the previous generation used to look a lot better.
BTW, I have a 2023 GLI stick shift (hahahahaha).
I was considering a Kia Forte, even the Forte looks much better in my opinion.
I'd rather get a car that looks okay but much much more fun to drive than slow turtle that looks better, and tbh I've seen both of these cars in person and gli is uglier, it's bulky, it reminds me of those Ford police sedans🤣
The problem is that the Elantra doesn't even come close to looking "okay".@@i.d.6492
@@i.d.6492 Lol, the GLI is far from being slow, again you're talking non-sense. The N is comically ugly, touch grass.
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer cope harder clown. If you think gli fast then I'm an astronaut. Them shits slows af and one of the most unreliable cars on the market today. VW is the worst German brand ever
2022 EN DCT vs 2022 VN DCT let’s gooooooo!
To be fair on the GLI, IE isn’t the best tune. APR EQT all are 300+HP. Was he using manual mode on roll? Cause automatic mode isn’t designed well for the GLI
He has to have the low torque file to make that much power, ie tunes are pretty weak. Cobb ots tunes are just as quick 😂
He also didn’t have a dsg tune so he doesn’t get to truly use all of the power the tune gives him.
The real problem is GLI dint use Paddle shifters. The N is designed to maximize speed on automatic sport mode. The GLI is NOT. The only way to get the most out of the GLI on a roll is paddle shifters
That was a low torque file… people just dont listen lol, if he would gotten dsg tune and went high torque then he wouldve been over 300 hp… they are all practically the same when it comes to stage 1 tunes😂
IE is a good tune. They are all pretty similar. If you don’t do the DSG tune, you aren’t maximizing the power.
@@randomvideos21015 they’re not all the same, most are similar, but you can make more power with other tunes.
Dynos show they make rated power at the wheels
Ex bmw employees working at Hyundai ..concept of underestimating true specs..but I love it ...good lies and benefits ys consumers..
Might be that the gli is running the stock tires which suck while the n line come with the power pilot4
When you put sticky tires on it you have a different car. That is coming from a GLI Autobahn 2023 owner with sticky tires.
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomersame here 6mt
@@emendez88em DSG, what tires did you pick?
In my opinion this shows how conservative how IE tunes are. Rather weak in my opinion
Gotta get that EQT sauce 😆.
Everyone is bashing IE tunes here without realizing that at stage 1 low torque they are all practically the same lol… i got ie because of how convenient it is vs me driving to a shop to get apr!
Well, instead of keep speculating how much power the car has, why not just test to see how much it does have?
Don’t use the shift paddles for DCT, let the car drive for you if you going to race…
Exactly. This isn't a tuned vehicle where the sweet spots in the rpms may be altered. It's a stock EN! Dang let the DCT do its thing.
The car was is in auto, I did not use the paddles. I was only resting my finger there.
Just put it on a Dyno and get back to us with the numbers 🤔
lmao, wasn't even close. RIP those tunes
we really need to see a elantra n vs a Golf r 😳
MK8 Golf R would totally destroy the Elantra N. It wouldn't be pretty. Of course the Golf R is considerably more expensive.
@@johnwjeromejr Golf r got destroyed instead 🤣🤣🤣
Elantra N vs Golf R vs Type R three way now lol.
I want to see N VS K5 GT
Me too