I don't do any really either. I just make sure it's able to do the bandwidth I need....which is only hi-speed. Belkin cables have a fanbase lol. I'm still rocking the factory PS4 PRO HDMI 2.0 cable, and another nicer cable from Walmart, that has lit up RGB ends.
@@Coloradocaliber I do too, to an extent, but not with HDMI cables anymore.... I've bought enough over the years. I have enough of them as it is. Some of them are older 1.4 cable's though.
Researched for HDR and 4:2:2 for Xbox one x/Apple TV. Got Belkin HDMI and it works well on both devices using all the features. Thanks for the video it helps with the new tv OLED I am getting soon.
Hi FOMO! Thanks for all the great videos. The expensive AudioQuest HDMI cables you mentioned are not for home theater use; I can’t imagine them making a big enough difference to be worth their price in such a use case. They are really only for use in ultra high-end HiFi audio systems, where cables make a very big difference in the sound for critical listening. This week I obtained one such cable, and am using it as the I2S interface cable from a PS Audio SACD transport into a Holo Audio May KTE DAC. The main transducer system I use with this setup is a HiFiMan electrostatic headphone system, which is known as a ruthless microscope into the source material. In a system with this kind of resolving power, it is VERY easy to hear the difference cables make, this signal cable being no exception. But again, it is most definitely NOT for use in a home theater rig, where neither the sound equipment nor the video signal could possibly be made that much different by it while simply playing a movie.
Thanks for the no BS, no-nonsense advice/information. I use Amazon Basic and Monoprice 2.0 cables with my Samsung 4K set. - 6" cables and one 25' to my laptop. All work perfectly - of course, I mostly stream content and watch dvd/blu-ray discs. But I'm an OF. Subscribed.
One of only 2 presenters of HDMI capabilities (of a Half Dozen I Watched) that actually has his head Screwed On. Excellent presentation Technically, And Excellent Speaking - Articulation and Cadence. Good Job..............
I just bought a Sony x950h, on sale at BB, based on your really helpful reviews. Realizing that I better get HDMI cables before the TV is delivered, I jumped on Amazon this morning. After 30 minutes I had such a headache. I'm 65 and just wanted to know what $$#& cable will work with my TV. Thanks so much for the easy to understand use explanation AND product links. I stopped the video, hit your links, bought two cables on Amazon that didn't cost more than the TV, and jump back on TH-cam to finish your video. Perfect 👍
Monoprice AND Cable Matters work great! HDMI 2.1 cost is not much if any more than HDMI 2.0; for me I’d buy the HDMI 2.1 just future proof buy one and done.
Thank you for this review!! Just recently discovered you guys when shopping for my new OLED. Clicked your link, bought the cables. Liked and subscribed too! Keep up the good work!
Bought 5 hdmi 48gb cables, 3 just flat out didn’t work, one would work randomly but almost always cuts out,finally ponied up for an audioquest cable and haven’t had a problem since….I honestly never believed that paying that much made sense until I had to and now when it comes to my high end toys I will always buy them. Setup is lg cx, Ps5, Xbox series x, and finally bringing in the sound with the lg sn11rg.
Thanks for the information i'll have a look at monoprice's HDMI 2.1 cable once Sony adds the HDMI 2.1 update for the Sony 55 XH90 Bravia TV which i'm currently using.
Great video! My 2c on Audioquest cables based on my experience using and selling them-- for video, i doubt anyone would notice any difference at all. Either they work or they dont. For audio, it is a whole 'nother ball game. I've done the tests, and you can clearly hear a difference from a $5 cable to a $50 or hundred dollar one. Beyond that, clearly diminishing returns. With that being said, we are talking about speakers that are at minimum 2 grand for a pair with high end receivers etc to hear the difference. if you are using a home-theater-in-a-box or soundbar, of course the exotic cables aren't worth it. Point #2--for people who are building a 10k, 25k, 50k, 100k home theater, they arent going to hook everything together with a $8 cable. In the grand scheme of things, a $75 or $150 cable is pretty cheap. Looking forward to more content!
If it's analog (including speaker wire on modern digital AVRs), an audiophile MIGHT be able to tell the difference between cheap & expensive cables. Nearly everything else is now digital; as long as the next device receives it accurately it will be perfect.
i use Zeskit Maya 2.1 HDMI Cable. Works amazing. my old cables (one included with the ps5, and amazon basics etc,) had black screen flickering and drop outs. Zeskit fixed it. 0 dropouts all week
I've been using the stock Series X 2.1 cable on my 4K/120 TV and I've been having the same issues you were experiencing. I'm hoping this Monoprice one he's promoting has the same success as your Zeskit, just ordered it.
@@TheHabitualWordsmith be careful with promotion videos. Not saying it’s a bad cable but he’s definitely pushing his own link. You don’t have to overspend but no reason to underspend. I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I also know Amazon can have QC issues and would rather spend $15 on a future proof 2.1 cable of decent build quality knowing it’s going to last at least a decade… as it should. Using cheap subpar materials is a crapshoot for longevity. Again you don’t need $100 cable but I’m a buy once cry once guy. However, I wouldn’t spend over $30 on a cable and if I’m spending $20-$30 it’s because I want a braided cable that’s fairly flexible because I’m afraid it could put undo stress (probably not though) on the hdmi port. But something to be said for future proofing because HDMI 2.1 is good enough
@@greg6162 I appreciate the advice. I ended up going with a different cord that I looked into and I haven't really had any further drop out image issues, save for once in a blue, and I'm chalking that up to running 120hz in Destiny 2 PVP, which is notoriously bad for that and usually the only place the drop out happens.
Not sure if you read these comments or not but Ill take a chance. I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from you over these past 6 months. I am very active on reddit and I enjoy helping others when it comes to my experience with 4k tvs. In one board I was twice banned for either linking one of your videos or once just for mentioning the video. I dont like bullies. So I decided to start a new sub where people who want to discuss 4k tvs can do that and share links to video content like yours that will help others or at the very least give them another thing to think about as they ponder which tv is best for them. I limit the videos I source and link too, to only 4 or 5 content creators, you, HDTVTest, Digital Trends, Rtings, and randomly here or there maybe one or two others. I wont advertise or link the sub here as I am not trying to spam you and the fact is I only set it up the other day and have only 1 member so far. I have a lot of work to do to hopefully build it up with good information and attract people to it and build a reputation as a great place to come for good information with a friendly vibe and no censorship over sharing videos from youtube that are helpful when discussing 4k tvs. I love talking tech, learning new things, seeing what the industry does as a whole and its response to changes that come and go, I just really enjoy it and am an avid viewer of this type of content. Is it alright with you that I share your videos and reference your work in my reddit sub? I make and read comments on these videos as well, but I think over time they stop getting any attention or replies and I think the forum is a better place to archive some of this stuff for folks that come around looking for information and have questions months after the videos are made. As questions pop up on Reddit I often will refer to a video you made several months or weeks earlier and it creates a new discussion on the same topic with people who werent aware of your channel or the video before hearing it in the forum. I hope that you dont mind my sharing your videos and content and I hope that I can help others along the way who are just learning some of this stuff while trying to make an expensive purchase for their next tv.
Wow just dished out $3000 for a Samsung Q800T....And here I am wondering how much I’m going to have to pay for new 8K hdmi wires. You sir are a godsend and I thank you very much for your input on this topic! Straight forward and Cheap prices for cables that do the job!
I think it's worth it looking for the premium certified label for HDMI 2.0 cables and ultra certified for HDMI 2.1 when buying HDMI cables. I say this since I've tested plenty of HDMI cables and lot of noname brands aren't able to hit the minimum required 18gbps just for the HDMI 2.0 causing all kinds of annoying drops or other mysterious issues making it tough to troubleshoot bad TV, console, Apple TV, etc.. Quick way to test this is to try enabling or running RGB 4K@60hz since that will hit near the 18gbps limit 4K 60 4:4:4 (no HDR) = 17.82Gbps. Also won't be able to enable HDR in Windows 10 with weaker cables since won't handle higher required bandwidth! Cheaper cables won't be able to do it and I'd return those or get rid of them.
@@stopthefomo doesn't your audio receiver have a 8K cable test I watched another channel with a 2700h and he did a cable test by plugging the input to the output. Once he plugged the AK input to the output it did test at 40 GB per second... Doesn't your 3500 have the same capability?
True, I will continue to buy Audioquest or other renowned brands because experience is experience, isolation is very important and cheaper manufacturers do not have that.
I just got the Sony bravia x900h, waiting for the 2.1 upgrade that will be coming soon. Going to order the 13 dollar cable you mentioned. Thanks your knowledge is appreciated. 🤘
@Ernesto Hernandez Yeah bought another one week after. I mean, they are Ultra high speed ethernet cables with 48gbp bandwidth. Any cablr with these specs will do, just dont buy snake oil cables like Audio quest lol.
Monoprice makes you feel good because you didn't get ripped off. I have used them for years. Never has one not worked of failed. 2 PC's, 1 PS4, 1PS4 Pro, and 2 TV's in my house all have Monoprice HDMI 2.0 cables on them.
What I read was, both Audioquest and Club 3D were the only two 2.1 ultra hdmi cables to date with the official cerrification. But Club 3D are readily available online and Much cheaper. Did I hear correctly, about the certifications?
Ha, funny monoprice story. I got in a fight with the owner 10 years ago and he banned me from store when I stopped selling his products by the pallet because he refused to tag my pallets with a rebrand.... we bought over $1M of his products in 2009 alone. He held a grudge on me, i had to open an anonymous account just to buy smaller orders before Amazon got big and the Director of Sales and VP of company sold to me behind his back. So dumb... no wonder he hired a CEO
Hi great video and thanks for the info!!!! I seen on Amazon where they offered a ultra slim version are there any difference between the the two besides one slim
Hi there, thanks for the good content. Let me give you some technical reasons of why long HDMI cables ( non optical )are expensive and sometimes unreliable. Building a cable that is ready for transmitting 48Gbps means around 48 billions bits per second. This requires something called controlled impedance which is a technique that assures precise impedance on the entire conduction line. To do this manufactures place a bunch of fillers inside the cable along with the cooper line wires and they are all spaced out at a precise distance. This is much easier to do when the cable is short, but when the cable start becoming longer it is very difficult to keep all those parameter consistent. When the impedance start to miss-match at some point on the transmission line that creates signal reflections and the communication colapse ( other words, it does not work ) That is why the price goes up exponentially as the cable length increase. Let’s not under estimate this technology. It is pretty amazing we are able to transmit data at such high speed ( again, 48 billion bits per second ) that is smoking fast.
Excellent info Samsung 80a & Yamaha 6a. Where do I run my HDMI cable from avr to which hdmi slot Tv. Listen to lots of Bluetooth & Movies THX 4 ur time
I have always been an early adopter so this is very helpful, I appreciate it! I just bought the Sony X900H with eventual hdmi 2.1 support and hope to preorder the PS5. Looking forward to next gen!
I love your videos very helpful! I went with PS5, 1 gig Internet, 48 gbps hdmi cable, cat 6 cable, LGcx65, Klipsch speakers and a Denon processor. Respect the tech yo!
I've got a 3090 and lgcx, I was using a 2.1 zeskit cable before watching this video, and I am definitely a convert to monoprice 2.0, its cheaper and does exactly what I need. I paid a ridiculous amount for my zeskit cable, like 24 bucks or something, im going to see if I can return it. 2.1 is simply not needed right now and is a cash grab. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for the info. For me, the reason to spend a few dollars more and get HDMI 2.1 is so I don’t have to buy new cables as I upgrade my equipment. The difference in price is minuscule. Especially if you are running them through the walls. I have an old TV but just got a Sonos Arc. For various reasons I need some new cables. My TV is too old for ARC but the Sonos sound bar is capable of eARC. Spending a few dollars more and getting 2.1 means I don’t have to buy new cables later when I upgrade my TV.
Iv just ordered the Q95T, so will need the second wire. Can’t wait. The CX isn’t good for bright rooms which I have, plus burn in and also only transmit up to 40gb. The Q95T has a lot higher contrast and is brighter, apart from darker blacks in the OLED. Samsung is the winner for me.
Hey! Thanks for the awesome video. I bought a Samsung q80t and bought a 5 meter long 48gbps hdmi copper cable. I connected it to my nvidia RTX 3080 and the picture quality is horrible in HDR. With HDR off it gets a bit better but still terrible, blacks are pixelated and washed out and dark scenes are terrible. Would it be my hdmi 2.1 cable causing this because its too long? Thank you :)
Cheaper cables are more vulnerable to interference, thats why the expensive ones are thicker, also in longer versions, wich is what fomo said, the cheap ones dont work longer then 20 feet. What most people also dont know, is that ferro's and non ferro components have to match otherwise or both start to oxidize when there is moisture in the air or you life near the ocean(chlorides), But mainly these cables are for pro's and the input/output components are only be found in high class professional audio video products, and im not talking about products like sonos etc products for the mainstream. Of course these brands have to sell their products they dont hang on to only pro users, so there are way too many of them in store, but there is a huge profit for stores if the try to sell those cables to consumers.
Arcaneus Umbra 48gbps is what the standard speed is for hdmi 2.1. HDCP 2.3 is what is needed to transmit certain copyrighted data at some point in the future.
simplified: It either works or it doesn't ( at all or artifacts). The material and construction quality determine the output, just physics no magic where some people resort when they are lazy to think, want to believe or just want to justify their huge spending. Using local German DeleyCon HDMI 10 meters long for feeding my optoma beamer for 5 years with rough handling and works like a charm.
Next gen console PS5 or Xbox X will be 4k 60fps max.... 2.0 hdmi cable will be perfectly fine and also everyone who buy new model console will get one good quality hdmi cable.... I still use hdmi cable what i receive with ps4pro and working top
I currently have a 55” 4K HDR LG (UJ6300) and I have the PS5 preordered. I’ve watched your recent videos on what specs to look for in a gaming TV and I plan to buy a new one next year. So as of right now, I don’t need HDMI 2.1... however, I can get a big discount on AudioQuest cables, and with my PS5 already preordered and my plans to upgrade my TV in the next 1-2 years, would you recommend just buying the higher end HDMI 2.1 now?
This video simplifies the HDMI 2.1 gaming requirements in terms of just resolution, framerates, and HDR needs but there's way more to HDMI 2.1 than just that!
I have the LG CX and Emotiva XMC 2 and both support 2.1 HDMI so its a no Brainerd for me on which one to get l have the Xbox one X and have a 2.0 HDIM cable already Very good informative vid on HDIMI cables, job well done!!
I really love your channel and pretty much watch all your content for a long time. But now I have my first question. I am looking to buy HDMI 2.1 kabels for my Ps5 and Series X and would like to know if there is a certain length where latency starts or the signal will get a little bit less powerful. The kabels that came with the ps5 are only 1,5 Meter. I think I need around 3/5 Meters, I play a lot of competition shooters where you want the fastest and best signal going in my LG65GX. Does it matter the length of the kabel? Thanks and keep up the good work!👍
Once I had a cable that worked out of the box for my PC and monitor fine, and at some point I started watching some visualization on my screen with fast moving images and the screen went black every time I run it on the desktop. It was not even a game. In games the cable also worked... The cable was made to just "work" until it met something that caused not to work... I got faster cable and no more problems after that.
Funny I came across this video. I asked this question in another one of your videos before doing a search in your channel. I have a question, is the wire, the 2.0 Monoprice better than the standard hdmi cables that come with devices? I ask because I use a very good higher end android box to stream my movies. I currently just use the hdmi cable that came with the device. In my case would this Monoprice hdmi cable make a difference for the better? Thanks, and love your channel.
Question: I have a PS4 and soon PS5. I purchased a HDMI (1 input X 2 output) Splitter. I am about to purchase a 27" ASUS 144Hz game monitor for my PS4 & 5. Will the "Splitter" diminish the picture from console to Splitter to monitor? Also, it's splitting off to a TV as well... Do have recommendations on better "Splitters"?
Sorry if I wasn't paying close enough attention but will a 2.0 cable be good enough for EARC to connect my TV to my new Dolby Atmos sound bar and running a next gen console? Was gonna get the 2.1 for the console but not sure if it's better to have both on 2.1.
I have a LG 4K tv and the 2.0 cables I used never showed the tv properly. The cables I got were brand name from a site dedicated to selling cables and other things. Once I got hdmi 2.1 everything changed for the better and i didn't touch any settings. Only changed the cable.
Hi FOMO! I'm new in to 4K TV . I bought a Sony A80J 77inch wbich will be deliver on 1st week of Auvust and I'will use it mostly for watching 4k blu ray movies using Panasonic UB 820 .Which cable do you recommend to use. I'm confused which one to get. I also owned a Marantz AV7705 .processor which ony have arc connection and I believe it's only a 2.0. Please help .Thank you in advance!
With PlayStation five coming out I was a little wary of this HDMI 2.1, I’m not upgrading my TV till after Xmas lol - I still got a 2012 4k LCD Samsung - A normal 2.0 cable should be fine I just hope it doesn’t make my Ps5 run slower or not enjoy the hell out of the next gen gaming but you definitely helped me out - goin online - to get the same 4k gaming HDMI cable I used for my ps4 - and cancelling The AK 2.1 fancy HDMI cable probably fit in the 2.0 slot anyway Just wanted to make sure I can get the most out of the PS five as possible with what I have tv wise - thank your for clearing that up subbed and will be watching more for sure .
As someone who has spent big money on expensive hdmi cables for a pretty decent home cinema setup I honestly can’t tell the difference between cheap and expensive cables.
Don’t have any gaming needs but plan to get a tv that supports 4K, 120Hz, and HDR. But it doesn’t have 2.1 ports. I guess I need 2.0, right? Is the issue that there are no 4K, 120Hz, HDR sources other than gaming consoles? It seems my Apple TV 4K only supports up to 60Hz 4K HDR, but it’s a bit difficult to dig through the spec sheet.
It is my understanding that Hybrid Fiber Optic HDMI cables (such as the Ruipro 8k) use standard copper wire for Authentication and Handshake purposes, so no conversion to optical is going on there. Just a straight up copper wire connection like a standard HDMI cable. Is that correct?
thank you for being an awesome source of information. you are very informative, but also treat your audience with respect, and as you relay the information, you are slow enough pace, so that people understand rather than talking really fast and we can't keep up or comprehend . thank you.. again
Thank you so much for not only making this video, but also recommending and providing links for the relevant items. If I'm to be completely honest, I thought you might have been sarcastic when you told me "I'll make that video just for you" with how much effort that takes. I'm extremely humbled and thankful. Thank you. I bought 4 2.1 cables you recommended. Last time I checked, HDMI 2.1 cables didn't exist, so thanks for providing relevant links. Much appreciated!! Looking forward to your future content.
Hi, I have vention braided hdmi cable from my output of the receiver to ARC of the 4k UHD TV. I am not getting atmos sound in my apple TV 4k. Should I change my vention hdmi cable to belkin ultra HD cable. Thanks
What about 4k HDR Dolby Vision? Doesn't Dolby Vision require more bandwidth for it's 12-bit color depth? I just got the HiSense H9G which can display both HDR10+ and DV standards. I plan on buying an HDR Blu-ray that plays DolbyVision (because LOTR is DV).
hi i just got today my Vizio OLED 65 tv can you tell me what hdmi i can used the 8k for my tv experience and for the PS5 coming up grate video keep it up. hope you can point one cable link i will get it today thanx
Looking TV definitely doesn't do 4K120hz HDMI 2.1. However, plan is to upgrade the graphics card on my PC to something that will be able to push a minimum 4K@60fps and ideally 4K@120fps with HDR enables and ultra visual settings. So may just go with the HDMI 2.1 cabless
Any "HDMI 2.1" cables are just Premium Certified cables with a different name on them. There currently isn't a certification that rates cables to 48 Gbps.
At the 7 minute 48 second mark you say you are showing an HDMI 2.1 Certified cable? Last I heard the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification (CTS) for Ultra High Speed HDMI Cables was not released yet? I don't see the Ultra High Speed HDMI Certification Label?
For people who live in high-RFI/EMI environments (apartment complexes, large office buildings, etc.) a high-quality SHIELDED cable is critical for good sound/ picture. THAT is worth paying for.
How much research did you do before you bought your HDMI cables?
I do mad research on everything I buy.
I don't do any really either. I just make sure it's able to do the bandwidth I need....which is only hi-speed. Belkin cables have a fanbase lol. I'm still rocking the factory PS4 PRO HDMI 2.0 cable, and another nicer cable from Walmart, that has lit up RGB ends.
@@Coloradocaliber I do too, to an extent, but not with HDMI cables anymore.... I've bought enough over the years. I have enough of them as it is. Some of them are older 1.4 cable's though.
Researched for HDR and 4:2:2 for Xbox one x/Apple TV. Got Belkin HDMI and it works well on both devices using all the features. Thanks for the video it helps with the new tv OLED I am getting soon.
How about fiber HDMI cable STF??
Perfect plain simple English on the "WHAT hdmi CABLE SHOULD I BUY ??" Perfect delivery and consise information.
10/10 video breakdown.
Hi FOMO! Thanks for all the great videos. The expensive AudioQuest HDMI cables you mentioned are not for home theater use; I can’t imagine them making a big enough difference to be worth their price in such a use case. They are really only for use in ultra high-end HiFi audio systems, where cables make a very big difference in the sound for critical listening. This week I obtained one such cable, and am using it as the I2S interface cable from a PS Audio SACD transport into a Holo Audio May KTE DAC. The main transducer system I use with this setup is a HiFiMan electrostatic headphone system, which is known as a ruthless microscope into the source material. In a system with this kind of resolving power, it is VERY easy to hear the difference cables make, this signal cable being no exception. But again, it is most definitely NOT for use in a home theater rig, where neither the sound equipment nor the video signal could possibly be made that much different by it while simply playing a movie.
Thanks for the no BS, no-nonsense advice/information. I use Amazon Basic and Monoprice 2.0 cables with my Samsung 4K set. - 6" cables and one 25' to my laptop. All work perfectly - of course, I mostly stream content and watch dvd/blu-ray discs. But I'm an OF. Subscribed.
Thanks, FOMO. Now, my wife has a hairy vagina, do you have advice on that?
One of only 2 presenters of HDMI capabilities (of a Half Dozen I Watched) that actually has his head Screwed On. Excellent presentation Technically, And Excellent Speaking - Articulation and Cadence. Good Job..............
I just bought a Sony x950h, on sale at BB, based on your really helpful reviews. Realizing that I better get HDMI cables before the TV is delivered, I jumped on Amazon this morning. After 30 minutes I had such a headache. I'm 65 and just wanted to know what $$#& cable will work with my TV.
Thanks so much for the easy to understand use explanation AND product links. I stopped the video, hit your links, bought two cables on Amazon that didn't cost more than the TV, and jump back on TH-cam to finish your video. Perfect 👍
Monoprice AND Cable Matters work great! HDMI 2.1 cost is not much if any more than HDMI 2.0; for me I’d buy the HDMI 2.1 just future proof buy one and done.
The HDMI 2.1 cable is not that much more expensive. If you have X900h or you plan to upgrade, you might as well buy the better cable.
I am currently using cheap ten yr old HDMI cables on my modern TV and they perform great.
Thank you for this review!! Just recently discovered you guys when shopping for my new OLED. Clicked your link, bought the cables. Liked and subscribed too! Keep up the good work!
Bought 5 hdmi 48gb cables, 3 just flat out didn’t work, one would work randomly but almost always cuts out,finally ponied up for an audioquest cable and haven’t had a problem since….I honestly never believed that paying that much made sense until I had to and now when it comes to my high end toys I will always buy them. Setup is lg cx, Ps5, Xbox series x, and finally bringing in the sound with the lg sn11rg.
Thanks for the information i'll have a look at monoprice's HDMI 2.1 cable once Sony adds the HDMI 2.1 update for the Sony 55 XH90 Bravia TV which i'm currently using.
Great video! My 2c on Audioquest cables based on my experience using and selling them-- for video, i doubt anyone would notice any difference at all. Either they work or they dont. For audio, it is a whole 'nother ball game. I've done the tests, and you can clearly hear a difference from a $5 cable to a $50 or hundred dollar one. Beyond that, clearly diminishing returns. With that being said, we are talking about speakers that are at minimum 2 grand for a pair with high end receivers etc to hear the difference. if you are using a home-theater-in-a-box or soundbar, of course the exotic cables aren't worth it. Point #2--for people who are building a 10k, 25k, 50k, 100k home theater, they arent going to hook everything together with a $8 cable. In the grand scheme of things, a $75 or $150 cable is pretty cheap. Looking forward to more content!
If it's analog (including speaker wire on modern digital AVRs), an audiophile MIGHT be able to tell the difference between cheap & expensive cables. Nearly everything else is now digital; as long as the next device receives it accurately it will be perfect.
I've been a fan of the Secur-O-Max Braided HDMI 1.4b, 2.0 and I recently purchased the 2.1 version for my new LG E9.
How are you a fan of a cable lol
There is no such thing as a 1.4 or 2.1 cable lmfao the ""1.4 cable"" would run any 2.1 HDMI lol
I remember back when the ps3 came out. I went and bought a monster HDMI cable for $70. still works 14 years later though
I’m sure it works yes but doesn’t have the bandwidth as the new ones probably HDMI 1.3?
Got your monies worth then huh?
Really. My $2.00 EBay HDMI cable still works after 14 years too. You got hosed, Benji. You fell for the hype.
i use Zeskit Maya 2.1 HDMI Cable. Works amazing.
my old cables (one included with the ps5, and amazon basics etc,) had black screen flickering and drop outs. Zeskit fixed it. 0 dropouts all week
I've been using the stock Series X 2.1 cable on my 4K/120 TV and I've been having the same issues you were experiencing. I'm hoping this Monoprice one he's promoting has the same success as your Zeskit, just ordered it.
@@TheHabitualWordsmith be careful with promotion videos. Not saying it’s a bad cable but he’s definitely pushing his own link. You don’t have to overspend but no reason to underspend. I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I also know Amazon can have QC issues and would rather spend $15 on a future proof 2.1 cable of decent build quality knowing it’s going to last at least a decade… as it should. Using cheap subpar materials is a crapshoot for longevity. Again you don’t need $100 cable but I’m a buy once cry once guy. However, I wouldn’t spend over $30 on a cable and if I’m spending $20-$30 it’s because I want a braided cable that’s fairly flexible because I’m afraid it could put undo stress (probably not though) on the hdmi port. But something to be said for future proofing because HDMI 2.1 is good enough
@@greg6162 I appreciate the advice. I ended up going with a different cord that I looked into and I haven't really had any further drop out image issues, save for once in a blue, and I'm chalking that up to running 120hz in Destiny 2 PVP, which is notoriously bad for that and usually the only place the drop out happens.
Not sure if you read these comments or not but Ill take a chance.
I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from you over these past 6 months.
I am very active on reddit and I enjoy helping others when it comes to my experience with 4k tvs.
In one board I was twice banned for either linking one of your videos or once just for mentioning the video.
I dont like bullies.
So I decided to start a new sub where people who want to discuss 4k tvs can do that and share links to video content like yours that will help others or at the very least give them another thing to think about as they ponder which tv is best for them.
I limit the videos I source and link too, to only 4 or 5 content creators, you, HDTVTest, Digital Trends, Rtings, and randomly here or there maybe one or two others.
I wont advertise or link the sub here as I am not trying to spam you and the fact is I only set it up the other day and have only 1 member so far.
I have a lot of work to do to hopefully build it up with good information and attract people to it and build a reputation as a great place to come for good information with a friendly vibe and no censorship over sharing videos from youtube that are helpful when discussing 4k tvs.
I love talking tech, learning new things, seeing what the industry does as a whole and its response to changes that come and go, I just really enjoy it and am an avid viewer of this type of content.
Is it alright with you that I share your videos and reference your work in my reddit sub?
I make and read comments on these videos as well, but I think over time they stop getting any attention or replies and I think the forum is a better place to archive some of this stuff for folks that come around looking for information and have questions months after the videos are made.
As questions pop up on Reddit I often will refer to a video you made several months or weeks earlier and it creates a new discussion on the same topic with people who werent aware of your channel or the video before hearing it in the forum.
I hope that you dont mind my sharing your videos and content and I hope that I can help others along the way who are just learning some of this stuff while trying to make an expensive purchase for their next tv.
Wow just dished out $3000 for a Samsung Q800T....And here I am wondering how much I’m going to have to pay for new 8K hdmi wires. You sir are a godsend and I thank you very much for your input on this topic! Straight forward and Cheap prices for cables that do the job!
I think it's worth it looking for the premium certified label for HDMI 2.0 cables and ultra certified for HDMI 2.1 when buying HDMI cables. I say this since I've tested plenty of HDMI cables and lot of noname brands aren't able to hit the minimum required 18gbps just for the HDMI 2.0 causing all kinds of annoying drops or other mysterious issues making it tough to troubleshoot bad TV, console, Apple TV, etc.. Quick way to test this is to try enabling or running RGB 4K@60hz since that will hit near the 18gbps limit 4K 60 4:4:4 (no HDR) = 17.82Gbps. Also won't be able to enable HDR in Windows 10 with weaker cables since won't handle higher required bandwidth! Cheaper cables won't be able to do it and I'd return those or get rid of them.
agreed
@@stopthefomo doesn't your audio receiver have a 8K cable test I watched another channel with a 2700h and he did a cable test by plugging the input to the output.
Once he plugged the AK input to the output it did test at 40 GB per second...
Doesn't your 3500 have the same capability?
True, I will continue to buy Audioquest or other renowned brands because experience is experience, isolation is very important and cheaper manufacturers do not have that.
I just got the Sony bravia x900h, waiting for the 2.1 upgrade that will be coming soon. Going to order the 13 dollar cable you mentioned. Thanks your knowledge is appreciated. 🤘
Belkin HDMI 2.1 cable user here. I like the thickness of the cable making it also easy to route.
I got those when they first came out like 2 yrs ago.
are those good even or is there better ultra high speed cables?
@Ernesto Hernandez Yeah bought another one week after. I mean, they are Ultra high speed ethernet cables with 48gbp bandwidth. Any cablr with these specs will do, just dont buy snake oil cables like Audio quest lol.
Monoprice makes you feel good because you didn't get ripped off. I have used them for years. Never has one not worked of failed. 2 PC's, 1 PS4, 1PS4 Pro, and 2 TV's in my house all have Monoprice HDMI 2.0 cables on them.
Bought that monoprice cable back in February. Good choice it seems!
Club 3d hdmi 2.1 cables for us here in UK great quality and great value too 👍
Club3d is quality guaranteed 👍
What I read was, both Audioquest and Club 3D were the only two 2.1 ultra hdmi cables to date with the official cerrification. But Club 3D are readily available online and Much cheaper. Did I hear correctly, about the certifications?
Well it's outputting 4k 120hz from ps5 on my xh90 no issues with hdr on and it's silky 🤗
Ha, funny monoprice story. I got in a fight with the owner 10 years ago and he banned me from store when I stopped selling his products by the pallet because he refused to tag my pallets with a rebrand.... we bought over $1M of his products in 2009 alone. He held a grudge on me, i had to open an anonymous account just to buy smaller orders before Amazon got big and the Director of Sales and VP of company sold to me behind his back. So dumb... no wonder he hired a CEO
Hi great video and thanks for the info!!!! I seen on Amazon where they offered a ultra slim version are there any difference between the the two besides one slim
Can i use the hdmi 2.0 on elgato hd60s for phone live streaming 😀
Hi there, thanks for the good content. Let me give you some technical reasons of why long HDMI cables ( non optical )are expensive and sometimes unreliable. Building a cable that is ready for transmitting 48Gbps means around 48 billions bits per second. This requires something called controlled impedance which is a technique that assures precise impedance on the entire conduction line. To do this manufactures place a bunch of fillers inside the cable along with the cooper line wires and they are all spaced out at a precise distance. This is much easier to do when the cable is short, but when the cable start becoming longer it is very difficult to keep all those parameter consistent. When the impedance start to miss-match at some point on the transmission line that creates signal reflections and the communication colapse ( other words, it does not work ) That is why the price goes up exponentially as the cable length increase. Let’s not under estimate this technology. It is pretty amazing we are able to transmit data at such high speed ( again, 48 billion bits per second ) that is smoking fast.
Excellent info Samsung 80a & Yamaha 6a. Where do I run my HDMI cable from avr to which hdmi slot Tv. Listen to lots of Bluetooth & Movies THX 4 ur time
I have always been an early adopter so this is very helpful, I appreciate it! I just bought the Sony X900H with eventual hdmi 2.1 support and hope to preorder the PS5. Looking forward to next gen!
Thank you, you just settled what display im going to get for my ps5
I love your videos very helpful! I went with PS5, 1 gig Internet, 48 gbps hdmi cable, cat 6 cable, LGcx65, Klipsch speakers and a Denon processor. Respect the tech yo!
I've got a 3090 and lgcx, I was using a 2.1 zeskit cable before watching this video, and I am definitely a convert to monoprice 2.0, its cheaper and does exactly what I need. I paid a ridiculous amount for my zeskit cable, like 24 bucks or something, im going to see if I can return it. 2.1 is simply not needed right now and is a cash grab. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for the info. For me, the reason to spend a few dollars more and get HDMI 2.1 is so I don’t have to buy new cables as I upgrade my equipment. The difference in price is minuscule. Especially if you are running them through the walls. I have an old TV but just got a Sonos Arc. For various reasons I need some new cables. My TV is too old for ARC but the Sonos sound bar is capable of eARC. Spending a few dollars more and getting 2.1 means I don’t have to buy new cables later when I upgrade my TV.
Awesome channel. No nonsense information. Much appreciated bud
Iv just ordered the Q95T, so will need the second wire. Can’t wait. The CX isn’t good for bright rooms which I have, plus burn in and also only transmit up to 40gb. The Q95T has a lot higher contrast and is brighter, apart from darker blacks in the OLED. Samsung is the winner for me.
Hey! Thanks for the awesome video. I bought a Samsung q80t and bought a 5 meter long 48gbps hdmi copper cable. I connected it to my nvidia RTX 3080 and the picture quality is horrible in HDR. With HDR off it gets a bit better but still terrible, blacks are pixelated and washed out and dark scenes are terrible. Would it be my hdmi 2.1 cable causing this because its too long? Thank you :)
Great video, never fall for the "Monster cable" bs.
Love the background music man 👌🏼👏🏻🙌🏼
I wish you can do a cable comparison with some HDMI cables that will be really cool.
Cheaper cables are more vulnerable to interference, thats why the expensive ones are thicker, also in longer versions, wich is what fomo said, the cheap ones dont work longer then 20 feet.
What most people also dont know, is that ferro's and non ferro components have to match otherwise or both start to oxidize when there is moisture in the air or you life near the ocean(chlorides),
But mainly these cables are for pro's and the input/output components are only be found in high class professional audio video products, and im not talking about products like sonos etc products for the mainstream.
Of course these brands have to sell their products they dont hang on to only pro users, so there are way too many of them in store, but there is a huge profit for stores if the try to sell those cables to consumers.
Don’t over pay. For hdmi cables. Get them at Amazon or E Bay for 15 dollars or less.
Be careful for HDMI 2.1. Many don’t have HDCP 2.3 and could screw you in a couple years
@@bobs8005 what's that?
Arcaneus Umbra 48gbps is what the standard speed is for hdmi 2.1. HDCP 2.3 is what is needed to transmit certain copyrighted data at some point in the future.
I just uses my PS5 Cable with my new Sony A80J OLED I just picked up. Works Great..
simplified: It either works or it doesn't ( at all or artifacts). The material and construction quality determine the output, just physics no magic where some people resort when they are lazy to think, want to believe or just want to justify their huge spending. Using local German DeleyCon HDMI 10 meters long for feeding my optoma beamer for 5 years with rough handling and works like a charm.
Next gen console PS5 or Xbox X will be 4k 60fps max.... 2.0 hdmi cable will be perfectly fine and also everyone who buy new model console will get one good quality hdmi cable.... I still use hdmi cable what i receive with ps4pro and working top
My 4K TV support HDMI 2.1 and I plan to use it as a PC monitor. Is HDMI 2.0 cable sufficient or I have to go with HDMA 2.1?
I bought the VIZIO V Series 2020 that has HDMI 2.1 but only is 4K 60hz. Why put the HDMI 2.1 if it doesn’t go to 120hz?
Iv recently bought the same TV.. Curious to see what he says.
I loved the video, great information, I'd like to see the blind test of the premium HDMI cable to see if you can see "the last 2%"
What hdmi cable is best for Dolby Atmos?
His videos are the only ones that answer my questions
Thanks for clearing up an usage of length and Gbps requirements.
If you buy this for ps5 and xbox... When do you think they will have 8k gaming? In 10 or 30 years?
Is monoprice wall ready cables? Meaning CL 2 or higher rated? Its hard finding 2.1 CL2 cables.
I currently have a 55” 4K HDR LG (UJ6300) and I have the PS5 preordered. I’ve watched your recent videos on what specs to look for in a gaming TV and I plan to buy a new one next year. So as of right now, I don’t need HDMI 2.1... however, I can get a big discount on AudioQuest cables, and with my PS5 already preordered and my plans to upgrade my TV in the next 1-2 years, would you recommend just buying the higher end HDMI 2.1 now?
This video simplifies the HDMI 2.1 gaming requirements in terms of just resolution, framerates, and HDR needs but there's way more to HDMI 2.1 than just that!
AGREED. But most consumers are so lost, so I'm hoping this at least raises the lowest common demoninator!
Hi Fomo, how are you doing? Question regarding HDMI 2.1 cable. The brand Belkin a good product to use in this example?
I learned quite a bit from this video. Thanks for the education!
Thoughts on fiber optic HDMI cables?
I have the LG CX and Emotiva XMC 2 and both support 2.1 HDMI so its a no Brainerd for me on which one to get
l have the Xbox one X and have a 2.0 HDIM cable already Very good informative vid on HDIMI cables, job well done!!
I really love your channel and pretty much watch all your content for a long time. But now I have my first question. I am looking to buy HDMI 2.1 kabels for my Ps5 and Series X and would like to know if there is a certain length where latency starts or the signal will get a little bit less powerful. The kabels that came with the ps5 are only 1,5 Meter. I think I need around 3/5 Meters, I play a lot of competition shooters where you want the fastest and best signal going in my LG65GX. Does it matter the length of the kabel?
Thanks and keep up the good work!👍
Wow! Thank you for breaking this down to a plain and simple explanation. The best video here. 👍👍👍👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Once I had a cable that worked out of the box for my PC and monitor fine, and at some point I started watching some visualization on my screen with fast moving images and the screen went black every time I run it on the desktop. It was not even a game. In games the cable also worked... The cable was made to just "work" until it met something that caused not to work... I got faster cable and no more problems after that.
Funny I came across this video. I asked this question in another one of your videos before doing a search in your channel. I have a question, is the wire, the 2.0 Monoprice better than the standard hdmi cables that come with devices? I ask because I use a very good higher end android box to stream my movies. I currently just use the hdmi cable that came with the device. In my case would this Monoprice hdmi cable make a difference for the better? Thanks, and love your channel.
So which cable and which TV is good for ps5
Okay I have the Hisense U8H and I need a longer cable for the arc and EARC port so I can hook up my soundbar
I have a Sony X9007F and use a JBL 9.1 soundbar and was wondering now that I bought the Apple TV 4K if I need a 2.1?
I bought a Samsung (series7) last year. Would I gain anything at all by buying the HDMI 2.1 cable?
Question: I have a PS4 and soon PS5. I purchased a HDMI (1 input X 2 output) Splitter. I am about to purchase a 27" ASUS 144Hz game monitor for my PS4 & 5. Will the "Splitter" diminish the picture from console to Splitter to monitor? Also, it's splitting off to a TV as well... Do have recommendations on better "Splitters"?
Whats a good hdmi 2.1 cable that is 10 meters
Does pure copper matter in a hdmi cable !
Amazingly informative video. Thank you. I'll be sticking to 2.0 HDmi that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Sorry if I wasn't paying close enough attention but will a 2.0 cable be good enough for EARC to connect my TV to my new Dolby Atmos sound bar and running a next gen console? Was gonna get the 2.1 for the console but not sure if it's better to have both on 2.1.
I have a LG 4K tv and the 2.0 cables I used never showed the tv properly. The cables I got were brand name from a site dedicated to selling cables and other things. Once I got hdmi 2.1 everything changed for the better and i didn't touch any settings. Only changed the cable.
Hi FOMO! I'm new in to 4K TV . I bought a Sony A80J 77inch wbich will be deliver on 1st week of Auvust and I'will use it mostly for watching 4k blu ray movies using Panasonic UB 820 .Which cable do you recommend to use. I'm confused which one to get. I also owned a Marantz AV7705 .processor which ony have arc connection and I believe it's only a 2.0. Please help .Thank you in advance!
Are there any benefits to using an HDMI 2.1 cable when your using a 2.1 compatible tv but a 2.0 graphics card?
So what you saying I can still use the 2.0 HDMI for the eARC on my LG C1?
55UN74003LB or 55UN80003LA or TCL Smart TV 55C715?
I know this may sound a bit dumb but will a 4k120hz hdmi cable also support 4k60?
With PlayStation five coming out I was a little wary of this HDMI 2.1, I’m not upgrading my TV till after Xmas lol - I still got a 2012 4k LCD Samsung - A normal 2.0 cable should be fine I just hope it doesn’t make my Ps5 run slower or not enjoy the hell out of the next gen gaming but you definitely helped me out - goin online - to get the same 4k gaming HDMI cable I used for my ps4 - and cancelling The AK 2.1 fancy HDMI cable probably fit in the 2.0 slot anyway Just wanted to make sure I can get the most out of the PS five as possible with what I have tv wise - thank your for clearing that up subbed and will be watching more for sure .
As someone who has spent big money on expensive hdmi cables for a pretty decent home cinema setup I honestly can’t tell the difference between cheap and expensive cables.
Don’t have any gaming needs but plan to get a tv that supports 4K, 120Hz, and HDR. But it doesn’t have 2.1 ports. I guess I need 2.0, right? Is the issue that there are no 4K, 120Hz, HDR sources other than gaming consoles? It seems my Apple TV 4K only supports up to 60Hz 4K HDR, but it’s a bit difficult to dig through the spec sheet.
I think you are saying
if you wire it yourself or even make it lamp wire will sound the same as audio quest or cardas cable
It is my understanding that Hybrid Fiber Optic HDMI cables (such as the Ruipro 8k) use standard copper wire for Authentication and Handshake purposes, so no conversion to optical is going on there. Just a straight up copper wire connection like a standard HDMI cable. Is that correct?
can i use these cables if my Tv doesn't have an HMDI 2.1 port to help ?
Will optical cable work on a apple tv streamer and older marantz processors?
thank you for being an awesome source of information. you are very informative, but also treat your audience with respect, and as you relay the information, you are slow enough pace, so that people understand rather than talking really fast and we can't keep up or comprehend . thank you.. again
Hey FOMO, love the video. So what about 1440p gaming 120hz with HDR? Is HDMI 2.0 enough?
DAMN,YOU ARE GOOD, THE AVERAGE JOE BLOW NEED TO HEAR THIS,LIKE ME.NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ON THE INTERNET. AMEN.
Fancy outfit this time. 👍 thank you for the helpful video.
Thank you so much for not only making this video, but also recommending and providing links for the relevant items. If I'm to be completely honest, I thought you might have been sarcastic when you told me "I'll make that video just for you" with how much effort that takes. I'm extremely humbled and thankful. Thank you. I bought 4 2.1 cables you recommended. Last time I checked, HDMI 2.1 cables didn't exist, so thanks for providing relevant links.
Much appreciated!! Looking forward to your future content.
Hi there! For a 1440p 144hz gaming monitor, assuming HDMI 2.0 cable for PS5 will maximize the monitor and PS5 capability?
Hi, I have vention braided hdmi cable from my output of the receiver to ARC of the 4k UHD TV. I am not getting atmos sound in my apple TV 4k. Should I change my vention hdmi cable to belkin ultra HD cable. Thanks
Assuming both TV and Soundbar have HDMI 2.1 port, the eARC between TV and Soundbar should go for HDMI 2.1 or 2.0?
What about 4k HDR Dolby Vision? Doesn't Dolby Vision require more bandwidth for it's 12-bit color depth? I just got the HiSense H9G which can display both HDR10+ and DV standards. I plan on buying an HDR Blu-ray that plays DolbyVision (because LOTR is DV).
hi i just got today my Vizio OLED 65 tv can you tell me what hdmi i can used the 8k for my tv experience and for the PS5 coming up grate video keep it up. hope you can point one cable link i will get it today thanx
Looking TV definitely doesn't do 4K120hz HDMI 2.1. However, plan is to upgrade the graphics card on my PC to something that will be able to push a minimum 4K@60fps and ideally 4K@120fps with HDR enables and ultra visual settings. So may just go with the HDMI 2.1 cabless
Any "HDMI 2.1" cables are just Premium Certified cables with a different name on them. There currently isn't a certification that rates cables to 48 Gbps.
Thank you, now I'm just waiting for the shorter 2.1 cables to be in stock.
No such thing as a 2.1 cable. Your current HDMI cable is exactly the same.
can hdmi 2.0 25 feet handle eARC or do i need hdmi 2.1 what do you think
At the 7 minute 48 second mark you say you are showing an HDMI 2.1 Certified cable? Last I heard the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification (CTS) for Ultra High Speed HDMI Cables was not released yet? I don't see the Ultra High Speed HDMI Certification Label?
You heard correct, No CTS nor testing lab yet - therefore NO certified cable.
For people who live in high-RFI/EMI environments (apartment complexes, large office buildings, etc.) a high-quality SHIELDED cable is critical for good sound/ picture. THAT is worth paying for.
8K HDMI Cable 10ft, BIFALE HDMI Cable 2.1
is the one i like to know about .
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