My Dad flew F-84F's out of RAF Woodbridge in the 50's, right up to their transition over to the F-100's ... He became a member of the 'MACH Club when he went supersonic in the F-100 ... But he always told me he loved the F-84F the best ...
I flew the F-model 1968-1969 at Eindhoven, The Netherlands. Remarkable: there was no two-seat version. First flight doubled as first solo. Most remarkable flight in the transition training was going supersonic first time of your life. At 30.000 ft roll inverted and pull straight down. Watching the airspeed, Mach meter and altimeter and the ground came rushing upwards. At around 15-10.000 ft you would see M 1.01 at the Mach meter and time to pull up again without any hesitation with 4-5 G’s. Sensational, mwah, is that all there is, just a number on an instrument. Most sensational was the afterparty when the whole class had completed the boom-ride: the Boomparty. Good clean fun, and I guess highly illegal in this day and age. I liked the Thunderstreak although due to being seriously underpowered takeoffs on an hot summerday with 450 gallontanks full could be a challenge.
My grandfather Lyle Monkton (now deceased) was a test pilot for Republic in the 50's (and I think the 60's). I came along well after his aviation career and he didn't talk much about it with me. My dad (his son-in law) had given me some pretty cool magazine stories that mentioned him, one noted he eventually became their "Chief production test pilot." One story described that while testing the limits of a F-84 in 1955, he lost it. In that instance he was one of the 1st few people to "eject" from a plane with a propelled seat. He was okay. This wasn't his 1st out of plane experience, having been shot down in WW2 over france. Sounded like he and the plane were shot and had to jump out of the plane / parachute. With bullet wound, the French underground hid him until he could get back to friendly troops.
Thanks for posting this, my dad was a crew chief on one in Germany, he said it was a great jet but slow on take off, he got in a bit of trouble for reworking the plates and adding some kind of after burner, he told his pilot to open this valve that dumped some more fuel and they had watch a temp gauge and shut it when it started to over heat, to give it more boost on take off, his jet was airborne in half the runway distance than the others, his tail # was 27346
Republic Aviation has always been my favorite airplane company. They always produced by far the most rugged aircraft known to man and always did the most important and toughest war winning work both air to air and air to ground. Unbeatable!
The F-84 was and is an iconic 1st generation jet aircraft. The F-84F is a great example. After all, she was still in service in 1971. While jets like the far more notable F86, and all of the century series were gone. Republic was always known for building sturdy aircraft. Look for instance at the far more famous F-105.Without the F-105, an aircraft that nearly failed to go into production because it was a generation ahead of it's time. Yet in Vietnam, in spite of it being a mid fifties design provided the bulk of the fighter bomber presence over North Vietnam, where it encountered the best defense systems the Soviet's could provide. Had the F-84 been available with swept wing technology and a significantly more powerful engine, I think it could have been at least as lethal in Korea as it's more famous brother the North American F-86. In my opinion it deserves more respect than it got.
F100 , 101 , 104 , 105 , 106 were all still in service in 1971 in the U.S. Air Force . Several of the above were retired in the late 70's , but the F-106 flew into the late 80's . Other air forces flew the 101, 104 into the early 90's / 00's . Stop talking out your behind.
@@johnmilner5485 I was referring to front line active duty units. Not the reserves, Air National Guard, drone service,nor foreign service. I hope you don't talk to your mother with that finger. Talking out of my butt...really, wished I did. Could be a rich, demented comedian with a tablet such as that.
Actually the F-84 Thunderjet,mostly the "G" model prrformed very well in Korea flying 60-percent of all air-to -ground missions that were the most dangerous, along with night interdiction. The type shot down 8 Mig -15's while 18 F-84's downed by the Migs. But the F-84's had another 93 probable and another 125 Mig-15's destroyed on the ground. Wrecked havoc un the North Koreans.
Kind of amusing how over two generations of aircraft Republic built good workman like aircraft that started out as interceptors, but after being superseded by North American's newer fighters they came into their own as good ground attack aircraft.
I wish an original 'Thunder--' name could have been found. 'Warthog' would probably have stuck, since '-hog' nicknames are traditional , but 'Gunhog' would have been cooler, given that monster cannon it's built around.
Ken Mrozak dog fighting went out with buggy whips. Soon as modern jets proved themselves and missiles were developed that could follow a jet exhaust heat signature from miles away, dog fighting ended. Air to ground and air to air missiles are capable of three times the speed of sound and can turn on a dime pulling twelve Gs. No pilot is capable of these maneuvers.
Ken Mrozak the twin jet phantom had air to air missiles and in its own defense could hit 1300 mph. It turned out to be a better ground attack bomber than a dog fighter. It was very heavy and lacked the nimble movements of the north Viet Nam Russian supplied fighters.
@@timmayer8723 lol first and 2nd gen heat seeking missiles were so terrible in their performance that the Aim 9b data is still classified because it was an embarrassment . Early Aim 7's rarely tracked as well. There's a reason all tactical fighters since the original ( USAF ,C,D & Navy B,J,S ) Phantoms have all had a cannon ever since ( with the exception of the F-117 ) .
Yes the g model had straight wings and the f model went to swept back wings, j-65 with combustion starter a drag chute and in flat refuel capabilities ( top of left wing)
XF-91 was not a combat aircraft, and the F-100 is credited as the first U.S. supersonic combat aircraft. Also, the MU-2 is the loudest turboprop aircraft you will ever hear.
I never understand why pilots do the inspection walking around the plane like they are checking the guttering on their backyard shed for leaks in the rain. It looks so redundant. Maybe if it were a hundred years ago. Do they ever find anything? Surely, if they do, it is a major report in the works and heads will roll!
After countless walkarounds over decades of flying, I only found a few (minor) discrepancies. I may seem redundant, but there are so many moving parts, nooks and cranies on a modern jet that it is prudent for the operator (pilot) to make one last inspection before strapping in. you might do the same with your car if you knew that everything had to work properly until you got to your destination. You can't pull to the curb and call AAA if the jet breaks. Also, the mechanics usually have several jets under their care, so their workload is spread among their charges.
TommyTwobats I spent four years working on C-97 cargo planes. Prior to flight at least ten of us maintenance techs went over the aircraft and repaired any mechanical squawks written by the pilots on a previous flight. On going maintenance schedules were strictly followed. It was up to us to put eyeballs on every inch of the aircraft inside and out. The C-97 was a post Second World War design. I worked on them during the Vietnam war in the mid sixties. I never saw a flight crew inspect a plane.
Ed I spent four years as a flight line mechanic working on C-97 cargo planes. It was a massive complex piece of equipment. Every single part had a strict inspection schedule. Small crews were assigned to look at the portion of the aircraft on which they had been trained. For example, if a pilot had written a (squawk) on the radios, the radio crew would repair or replace the problem radio. The procedure was the same for every system. If the plane was scheduled to fly to Viet Nam which was about an seven thousand mile trip,one way, from my base in California it was not loaded or fueled until all the squawks had been cleared. If a critical system was not repaired/replaced in time, another plane that was ready would be put on the schedule and would fly the mission. The maintenance manuals took up a ten foot wall to a height of six feet in our flight line office. We had no computers at that time (early to mid sixties) and all paper work was written by hand. Very tedious.
When the thunderhog disintegrated it did it's best to kill my hero, who was ripped out of the harness and the seat was found in the cockpit; all that was found. Two more seriously injured pilots in his unit. Underpowered and worn out junk.
@@timmayer8723 Weren't they the old double sausage superforts which flew from '45? I heard about them...so old but still in the Pennsylvania Airguard as late as Vietnam and actually called into active service during Vietnam flying in supplies to whatever "that Kam r?? bay" was..and flying back corpses in bodybags.
The "Thud" was the F-105 Thunderchief, a later model produced by Republic. The name derived from the Howdy Doody show's character Chief Thunderthud (from a Thud pilot).
@@Ed-hz2um I was stationed at Hill AFB (419 TFW) when we had the 'THUD OUT', or the final day, and last official flights, of the last 105 squadron, to fly Thuds. It was great, and very nostalgic ... They transitioned to the 'new' (at that time) F-16's ...
The F84 was a turd , sorry but its the truth . Far from great ! It such a shame for Republic after building the P47 Thunderbolt , now that was a great plane !!!
“Structural fatigue”… at age 77 I know just how that feels. Thanks for the video… quite well done.
Do you still exercise?
My Dad flew F-84F's out of RAF Woodbridge in the 50's, right up to their transition over to the F-100's ... He became a member of the 'MACH Club when he went supersonic in the F-100 ... But he always told me he loved the F-84F the best ...
I flew the F-model 1968-1969 at Eindhoven, The Netherlands. Remarkable: there was no two-seat version. First flight doubled as first solo. Most remarkable flight in the transition training was going supersonic first time of your life. At 30.000 ft roll inverted and pull straight down. Watching the airspeed, Mach meter and altimeter and the ground came rushing upwards. At around 15-10.000 ft you would see M 1.01 at the Mach meter and time to pull up again without any hesitation with 4-5 G’s. Sensational, mwah, is that all there is, just a number on an instrument. Most sensational was the afterparty when the whole class had completed the boom-ride: the Boomparty. Good clean fun, and I guess highly illegal in this day and age. I liked the Thunderstreak although due to being seriously underpowered takeoffs on an hot summerday with 450 gallontanks full could be a challenge.
I was stationed at Tinker AFB with the 506th Strategic Fighter Wing which had 3 Squadrons of F 84 F's from 1955 to 1957.
VERY well done, glad I saw your channel suggestion: I have subscribed!!!
P-47, F-84, F-105, and A-10 (Fairchild Republic).
Republic Aviation.
Man, what a legacy.
My grandfather Lyle Monkton (now deceased) was a test pilot for Republic in the 50's (and I think the 60's). I came along well after his aviation career and he didn't talk much about it with me. My dad (his son-in law) had given me some pretty cool magazine stories that mentioned him, one noted he eventually became their "Chief production test pilot." One story described that while testing the limits of a F-84 in 1955, he lost it. In that instance he was one of the 1st few people to "eject" from a plane with a propelled seat. He was okay. This wasn't his 1st out of plane experience, having been shot down in WW2 over france. Sounded like he and the plane were shot and had to jump out of the plane / parachute. With bullet wound, the French underground hid him until he could get back to friendly troops.
It's astounding when you think about it that jet aircraft like the F-80, F-84, and F-86 got their start in the mid 40s during WWII.
Thanks for posting this, my dad was a crew chief on one in Germany, he said it was a great jet but slow on take off, he got in a bit of trouble for reworking the plates and adding some kind of after burner, he told his pilot to open this valve that dumped some more fuel and they had watch a temp gauge and shut it when it started to over heat, to give it more boost on take off, his jet was airborne in half the runway distance than the others, his tail # was 27346
That’s a pretty cool story… I would love to hear more details
Republic Aviation has always been my favorite airplane company. They always produced by far the most rugged aircraft known to man and always did the most important and toughest war winning work both air to air and air to ground. Unbeatable!
My father flew on bombers. He loved those little friends IE fighter planes!!
The F-84 was and is an iconic 1st generation jet aircraft. The F-84F is a great example. After all, she was still in service in 1971. While jets like the far more notable F86, and all of the century series were gone. Republic was always known for building sturdy aircraft. Look for instance at the far more famous F-105.Without the F-105, an aircraft that nearly failed to go into production because it was a generation ahead of it's time. Yet in Vietnam, in spite of it being a mid fifties design provided the bulk of the fighter bomber presence over North Vietnam, where it encountered the best defense systems the Soviet's could provide. Had the F-84 been available with swept wing technology and a significantly more powerful engine, I think it could have been at least as lethal in Korea as it's more famous brother the North American F-86. In my opinion it deserves more respect than it got.
Canada used the F 101 into the 80s. Many nations used. The F104 well into the 80s. The F8 was used into the 90s...
F104 s in service in Italian air force till 2004
F100 , 101 , 104 , 105 , 106 were all still in service in 1971 in the U.S. Air Force . Several of the above were retired in the late 70's , but the F-106 flew into the late 80's . Other air forces flew the 101, 104 into the early 90's / 00's . Stop talking out your behind.
@@johnmilner5485 I was referring to front line active duty units. Not the reserves, Air National Guard, drone service,nor foreign service. I hope you don't talk to your mother with that finger. Talking out of my butt...really, wished I did. Could be a rich, demented comedian with a tablet such as that.
@@randypurtteman1183 In 1971 all of the above mentioned were still in active USAF service. Try again.
Such a sexy looking Jet, i love the old Documentaries
Great stuff👍 Early jets have soul🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
They flew out of KSPI.. used to see them on a low level flight pattern over the farm that I grew up on in the 1960's
I also like the F84F, haven't worked on her for 3 1/2 Years, after 104 Widowmaker!
Actually the F-84 Thunderjet,mostly the "G" model prrformed very well in Korea flying 60-percent of all air-to -ground missions that were the most dangerous, along with night interdiction. The type shot down 8 Mig -15's while 18 F-84's downed by the Migs. But the F-84's had another 93 probable and another 125 Mig-15's destroyed on the ground. Wrecked havoc un the North Koreans.
I saw my dad's wing, the 49th in those Korean photos.
Kind of amusing how over two generations of aircraft Republic built good workman like aircraft that started out as interceptors, but after being superseded by North American's newer fighters they came into their own as good ground attack aircraft.
Trivia: the F-84F's were also tasked with carrying M7 Nukes during the 50's if we had ever gone to war with the USSR
Good video but background music is too loud I can't hear you. Anyway thumbs up.
Thank you for posting. Little error in the title: Thunderstreak
People are too busy and rushed nowadays to proofread their stuff.
Also the "Thunderjet,Thunderscreech,and Thunderceptor.
Cool plane! ✈️👍
Very good doku.
The A-10's granddaddy.
Pete Sheppard the p-47 is it’s great grand dad
Yep! Hence the official name, 'Thunderbolt II'.
Pete Sheppard I hate the name warthog. Thunderbolt 2 just sounds like iron balls.
I wish an original 'Thunder--' name could have been found.
'Warthog' would probably have stuck, since '-hog' nicknames are traditional , but 'Gunhog' would have been cooler, given that monster cannon it's built around.
Scrapped national treasures
Republic loved thunder
Thunder bolt
Thunder flash
Thunder streak
Thunder chief
Loved themselves some thunder.
And finally, the demonstration team was named "Thunderbirds"!!!!
Left out Thunderbolt II aka the A- 10.
The F-105 wasn't really a fighter, it was a ground attack bomber.
Ken Mrozak dog fighting went out with buggy whips. Soon as modern jets proved themselves and missiles were developed that could follow a jet exhaust heat signature from miles away, dog fighting ended. Air to ground and air to air missiles are capable of three times the speed of sound and can turn on a dime pulling twelve Gs. No pilot is capable of these maneuvers.
@@timmayer8723 Yeah, that's why no guns were initially installed on the Phantom II. Tell me, how did THAT work out! Dogfights STILL happen today!
Ken Mrozak the twin jet phantom had air to air missiles and in its own defense could hit 1300 mph. It turned out to be a better ground attack bomber than a dog fighter. It was very heavy and lacked the nimble movements of the north Viet Nam Russian supplied fighters.
@@timmayer8723 lol first and 2nd gen heat seeking missiles were so terrible in their performance that the Aim 9b data is still classified because it was an embarrassment . Early Aim 7's rarely tracked as well. There's a reason all tactical fighters since the original ( USAF ,C,D & Navy B,J,S ) Phantoms have all had a cannon ever since ( with the exception of the F-117 ) .
@@timmayer8723 Yeah you might want to read a little history of aerial warfare and come back and edit your comments
So, the F model came _after_ the G model.....
Yes the g model had straight wings and the f model went to swept back wings, j-65 with combustion starter a drag chute and in flat refuel capabilities ( top of left wing)
Due to the incredible noise, the F-84H was dubbed the 'Thunderscreech'
THATS BECAUSE THE PROPS WENT SUPERSONIC NOT F-84H,GOOGLE THUNDERSCREECH
@@skidzholeshot1316 Yep!
XF-91 was not a combat aircraft, and the F-100 is credited as the first U.S. supersonic combat aircraft. Also, the MU-2 is the loudest turboprop aircraft you will ever hear.
Ah the mitsubishi M-U2? Garret tpe-331? Side inlet axial flow compressors.
Laughs in Tu-95.
Reminds me of a 262
Yep, better used as a mud mover and recce bird.
16:40 those tanks are pretty beat up.
They were shipped in by UPS.
Fit a jet engine into a P-47??
They intended for it to fly backward?
Added background music? Boo, Hiss
I have collated over 100 videos of the F-84F 'Thunderstreak' & Thunderflash - - - - > click xo ox to see them !!
What is the original year of release of this movie?
This was one episode a TV series that aired on the Discovery Channel back in the late '80's/early '90's called Great Planes.
I never understand why pilots do the inspection walking around the plane like they are checking the guttering on their backyard shed for leaks in the rain. It looks so redundant. Maybe if it were a hundred years ago. Do they ever find anything? Surely, if they do, it is a major report in the works and heads will roll!
After countless walkarounds over decades of flying, I only found a few (minor) discrepancies. I may seem redundant, but there are so many moving parts, nooks and cranies on a modern jet that it is prudent for the operator (pilot) to make one last inspection before strapping in. you might do the same with your car if you knew that everything had to work properly until you got to your destination. You can't pull to the curb and call AAA if the jet breaks. Also, the mechanics usually have several jets under their care, so their workload is spread among their charges.
TommyTwobats I spent four years working on C-97 cargo planes. Prior to flight at least ten of us maintenance techs went over the aircraft and repaired any mechanical squawks written by the pilots on a previous flight. On going maintenance schedules were strictly followed. It was up to us to put eyeballs on every inch of the aircraft inside and out. The C-97 was a post Second World War design. I worked on them during the Vietnam war in the mid sixties. I never saw a flight crew inspect a plane.
Ed I spent four years as a flight line mechanic working on C-97 cargo planes. It was a massive complex piece of equipment. Every single part had a strict inspection schedule. Small crews were assigned to look at the portion of the aircraft on which they had been trained. For example, if a pilot had written a (squawk) on the radios, the radio crew would repair or replace the problem radio. The procedure was the same for every system. If the plane was scheduled to fly to Viet Nam which was about an seven thousand mile trip,one way, from my base in California it was not loaded or fueled until all the squawks had been cleared. If a critical system was not repaired/replaced in time, another plane that was ready would be put on the schedule and would fly the mission. The maintenance manuals took up a ten foot wall to a height of six feet in our flight line office. We had no computers at that time (early to mid sixties) and all paper work was written by hand. Very tedious.
When the thunderhog disintegrated it did it's best to kill my hero, who was ripped out of the harness and the seat was found in the cockpit; all that was found. Two more seriously injured pilots in his unit. Underpowered and worn out junk.
@@timmayer8723 Weren't they the old double sausage superforts which flew from '45? I heard about them...so old but still in the Pennsylvania Airguard as late as Vietnam and actually called into active service during Vietnam flying in supplies to whatever "that Kam r?? bay" was..and flying back corpses in bodybags.
THE THUNDERJET,OR AS THE PILOTS CALLED IT IN NAM THE THUD AS THATS THE SOUND IT MADE WHEN IT HIT THE GROUND.
That was the Thunder _CHIEF._ The F-105.
I heard it was the thud for other reasons
The "Thud" was the F-105 Thunderchief, a later model produced by Republic. The name derived from the Howdy Doody show's character Chief Thunderthud (from a Thud pilot).
@@Ed-hz2um I was stationed at Hill AFB (419 TFW) when we had the 'THUD OUT', or the final day, and last official flights, of the last 105 squadron, to fly Thuds. It was great, and very nostalgic ... They transitioned to the 'new' (at that time) F-16's ...
Fuel tanks at end of wings was a dumb idea...
Ask anyone that flies a light to medium twin
Redistributes load to the outboard of the wing usually increasing gross weight.
39:48 Confederate flag.
@mister kluge
Shut up, sir.
That's not a confederate flag
So what?
The F84 was a turd , sorry but its the truth . Far from great ! It such a shame for Republic after building the P47 Thunderbolt , now that was a great plane !!!
I love the f-84f, it's a great, underrated plane.
The MIG 15 is a best plane !
It was ground lover and need a long runway
I was crew chief on the 84 for 3 yr until the 101 came in. loved them