When we bought our home in El Monte the former owners were rockhounds and apparently jewelry makers. We had five extremely large orange Abalone shells that were well over eight inches the long way on the shell. Decades later diving in Calif. all the way up to BC Canada I never saw live abalone larger than four inches!! Obviously these shells were fresh and from the 1950's; we bought the house in 1963,
This has one of my ancestor in it "George Nidever” was a captain of a ship that brought the lone Indian woman back to San Marcos California I own the book I have read it more than 90 times I lov the book
Such a well presented and informative update to this ongoing research. Thank you Steve Schwartz and channelislandsnps. I've been following your work on San Nicholas for several years. Where is the Redwood Box Cache be displayed?
Imagine the couple pre Russian centuries when the Spanish interacted with the Chumash/Tongva on the islands and mainland, The Spanish were not interested in trading for pelts, more so their objective throughout the America's was in Converts/Slaves for Gold & Silver mining , cattle ranching, crop tending and mission building. So later in time the Russians come along with a huge European market demand for Otter pelts, & As the speaker states strikes a trade deal with the local islanders for pelts, Soon after Russians realizing these local hunters were not proficient enough for profitability so the Russians conscript Alaskan Hunters and sail down to the Islands to Hunt. After a relationship was established the Local hunters realized they were being double crossed & replaced so a dispute occures ending with the death of 1 alaskan hunter and many channel islanders die in a vigilante response.. I imagine the conflict occured because the locals realized that these new hunters and their untrustworthy Russian masters would soon exterminate them and deplete the entire otter population, leaving nothing..Little did they know the Americans like the Spanish before had big plans for them, their islands & their mainland holdings .Removing them from their homelands and natural habitat and relocating them on reservations, rancherias with hopes to assimilate them to once again become sub-citizen slaves to menial work their fields and provide domestic servitude. Feeding them a nutrient poor Euro-American based diet of which dissentary and malnourishment was commonplace throughout the history of the north american occupation.
Spot on Pamela, this guy is manic with the laser & almost impossible to focus on the images he is trying to share.. Maybe he is OCD or ADHD challenged or in early stages of alzheimers or parkinsons or possibly took way too many hallucinagenic drugs during his school days in the 60's or 70's, Definately has eye- hand control problems a bit like a bored kid in class scribbling and doodling because he has either heard or said it all so many times before. I don't mean to sound critical but he is not alone, alot of these archeologist/ speakers act so confident in their conveying of 3rd and 4th hand information that they pass on as fact or knowledge about other cultures. His condescending description of the song as a frivilous thing with no meaning shows his ignorance, as Juaneno/ Gabrielino and Chumash people all know the majority of indigenous people in North America pass on knowledge and history orally and teach children through stories & song.. very important fact.. the song is not a mumbo jumbo of la-la-la singing as the speaker says. I always wonder if any of these modern academics every actually spoke with respect with the living elders & descendants of the Juaneno or Gabrielino & Chumash. earlier ethnologists gave it a try and figured out the Chumash to the north are completely different people than the Tongva & different than the San Diegito or Yuman speaking people south of what is now called Orange County.
Every time this supposed "expert" said, "San Pedro." I cringed. We do not pronounce the name of our town : Paydro. It is pronounced by every local (Pedronian), Peeeedro.
@@jonmacdonald5345 haha,as you Rothschild's of puppets denigrate thef white man and strive to put the brown/ black slaves in place on the nwo..the fact still remains that the only dna from a captured neanderthal (Alma's-siberia) came from zana s great grandson ..the fna tested SUBSAHARAN...AFRICAN!! curiously enough,encounters of the Alma's ( neanderthals) mention the skin on the face was black!
@@jquest43 No you should! now get down on your knees so we can sacrifice you to Molooch! Lol Fuck boy hahaha you're probably some teenage skank that takes advice from Cardi B!!!!
When we bought our home in El Monte the former owners were rockhounds and apparently jewelry makers. We had five extremely large orange Abalone shells that were well over eight inches the long way on the shell. Decades later diving in Calif. all the way up to BC Canada I never saw live abalone larger than four inches!! Obviously these shells were fresh and from the 1950's; we bought the house in 1963,
I am a grade 5 teacher...I am fascinated about this story and teach this novel.
Outstanding presentation.
This has one of my ancestor in it "George Nidever” was a captain of a ship that brought the lone Indian woman back to San Marcos California I own the book I have read it more than 90 times I lov the book
Such a well presented and informative update to this ongoing research. Thank you Steve Schwartz and channelislandsnps. I've been following your work on San Nicholas for several years. Where is the Redwood Box Cache be displayed?
Just found about this today I wonder if there’s any follow up ? Would love to hear any updates
cool.
Imagine the couple pre Russian centuries when the Spanish interacted with the Chumash/Tongva on the islands and mainland, The Spanish were not interested in trading for pelts, more so their objective throughout the America's was in Converts/Slaves for Gold & Silver mining , cattle ranching, crop tending and mission building. So later in time the Russians come along with a huge European market demand for Otter pelts, & As the speaker states strikes a trade deal with the local islanders for pelts, Soon after Russians realizing these local hunters were not proficient enough for profitability so the Russians conscript Alaskan Hunters and sail down to the Islands to Hunt. After a relationship was established the Local hunters realized they were being double crossed & replaced so a dispute occures ending with the death of 1 alaskan hunter and many channel islanders die in a vigilante response.. I imagine the conflict occured because the locals realized that these new hunters and their untrustworthy Russian masters would soon exterminate them and deplete the entire otter population, leaving nothing..Little did they know the Americans like the Spanish before had big plans for them, their islands & their mainland holdings .Removing them from their homelands and natural habitat and relocating them on reservations, rancherias with hopes to assimilate them to once again become sub-citizen slaves to menial work their fields and provide domestic servitude. Feeding them a nutrient poor Euro-American based diet of which dissentary and malnourishment was commonplace throughout the history of the north american occupation.
Very interesting presentation, but I was hoping to hear her songs and for GOD'S sake stop zooming that laser pointer all over the place.
Spot on Pamela, this guy is manic with the laser & almost impossible to focus on the images he is trying to share.. Maybe he is OCD or ADHD challenged or in early stages of alzheimers or parkinsons or possibly took way too many hallucinagenic drugs during his school days in the 60's or 70's, Definately has eye- hand control problems a bit like a bored kid in class scribbling and doodling because he has either heard or said it all so many times before. I don't mean to sound critical but he is not alone, alot of these archeologist/ speakers act so confident in their conveying of 3rd and 4th hand information that they pass on as fact or knowledge about other cultures. His condescending description of the song as a frivilous thing with no meaning shows his ignorance, as Juaneno/ Gabrielino and Chumash people all know the majority of indigenous people in North America pass on knowledge and history orally and teach children through stories & song.. very important fact.. the song is not a mumbo jumbo of la-la-la singing as the speaker says. I always wonder if any of these modern academics every actually spoke with respect with the living elders & descendants of the Juaneno or Gabrielino & Chumash. earlier ethnologists gave it a try and figured out the Chumash to the north are completely different people than the Tongva & different than the San Diegito or Yuman speaking people south of what is now called Orange County.
Instead of fish hooks, those two artifacts are probably ear rings!
Seems like a collection of washed up trinkets and treasures on the beach.
Every time this supposed "expert" said, "San Pedro." I cringed. We do not pronounce the name of our town : Paydro. It is pronounced by every local (Pedronian), Peeeedro.
IDRATHERBREADINGMYDX well peyyydro is Spanish incase you didn't know. 👍
The locals are wrong.
@@jquest43 the locals call it that because the area smells like peeeeee now
Any Caucasian giants buired on the island?
Nah they never lived there not enough caves!
@@jonmacdonald5345 haha,as you Rothschild's of puppets denigrate thef white man and strive to put the brown/ black slaves in place on the nwo..the fact still remains that the only dna from a captured neanderthal (Alma's-siberia) came from zana s great grandson ..the fna tested SUBSAHARAN...AFRICAN!! curiously enough,encounters of the Alma's ( neanderthals) mention the skin on the face was black!
@@jquest43 LMFAO hahaha I'm black you racist fuck!!!
@@jonmacdonald5345 shouldn't you be serving your massa Rothschild you racist fuck boy?
@@jquest43 No you should! now get down on your knees so we can sacrifice you to Molooch! Lol Fuck boy hahaha you're probably some teenage skank that takes advice from Cardi B!!!!