This is the biggest mistake in Magic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Grenzo, Crooked Jailer Rakdos Heist Alchemy Commander Brawl Deck for MTG Arena
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The thing at 7:00 is a known bug. When Grenzo gets removed before his ETB reolves, you have no option but to rope out your clock. Even reconnecting doesnt work.
Figured that's what it was. The opponent probably knew the bug too and waited to mess up his timeouts. Cunning...
There’s also a bug I reported of mindslaver and heist mechanic causing the same problem. If you heist while controlling your opponents turn, you can’t see options, automatically rope out and lose
@@ashleyhamilton5064 It's a right move without the bug anyways because it disallows to cast a heisted spell for free
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who plays more arena the 99% of the population, doesnt see the difference between their own and their opponent's rope...
@@ashleyhamilton5064 It's brawl, not ranked, so thats exploiting and low brow.
Grenzo is another commander, like Poq, where its fun to play as, but sucks to play against. Definitely one of the more busted commanders they made from Alchemy imo
True I want them to print poq in Paper so bad
@@andrewstandish7635kodama exists in paper, just play that lol
Poq is way worse
@@andrewstandish7635Thats a commander nobody will play against.
Dont forget rusko
At 7:00 that was really weird. Definitely thought the opponent was roping, too. The choice didn't pop up.
I was hoping he'd try reconnecting since the rope in the middle is yours. Your opponent's rope shows up around their icon.
But apparently, that wouldn't have worked anyway.
Glad to see some more brawl on the channel lately, but man Grenzo is about as fun to watch as it is to play against. It doesn't feel like there's much real gameplay going on, make a few plays that don't ultimately matter then slam commander and hope for a good heist.
Not only is it powerful it’s incredibly unfun to play against. People run the rope out reading your cards only to realise that casting the cards in their hand will have better synergy with their deck. It just slows the game down as you watch someone else struggle to understand how to play with your toys. Just mill me, at least if you’re playing mill you know what your cards do and won’t spend 3 minutes on every turn.
Good thing Florida has open carry (probably), since CGB is walking around with those guns out! Have a fun trip, thanks for the videos!
The moment I read the description on heist, I switched to standard. To hell with that
Every day I feel more and more inclined to get magic online.
its fun until you need cards... that $ adds up. grinding sucks if you initialy make a bad deck that wont grind by that i mean win a few games out of several. crafted cards made a deck and then new expansion released and my deck was unplayable. still play but i put money in every couple weeks. now its doable but that grind for gems and coins sucks early on!
I played against this deck last night and opponent hit the nuts on my simic deck with that bounce/extra turn spell followed by the expensive vorinclex that doubles manna and wrecks its opponents mana. Needless to say I lost
The Conspiracy is REAL. I HAVE YET to see my opponent Heist anything useless. Every Single time it’s Paradox Engine, Aetherflux Reservoir, Vein Ripper, Phyrexian Obliterator, River’s Rebuke. Every DAMN TIME!
Not only is Heist broken, it's also very unfun.
@24:50 I think the better play here is to take their Crucias, discard something so that you get a treasure, and then have the ability to infernal grasp their Grenzo with the heist trigger on the stack. This makes it so they can't heist removal from your deck to then kill your Grenzo since you will be denying them the ability to cast the heisted card for free. You then untap with Grenzo and it's basically locked up at that point.
It also ropes them out, thereby denying them the heist choice as seen in game one, so definitely the correct play
heist always gets my best cards
Casting everything ON ivy with other creatures on the board.... like what?
as a paper player, who plays the OG Grenzo, hate to see him catching strays from broken alchemy mechanics.
Do you like random (hello HearthStone and Trolden) of the only digital cards? 😂
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I would argue that free spell engines are always a mistake but at least Rakdos doesn't have as many of them as blue does. "Biggest mistake" is a wild take though. In a format where Paradox Engine is still legal that's something quite else.
Rakdos may not have the most, but they are definitely the most egregious. Blue isn't chaining spells that are mana positive because they're from exile, looking at you prosper.
Price of Prosper went from $15 to $25.
Waited for this video ever since I saw your comment to Prof's tweet!
Heist is SOMEHOW as annoying as Mono Red.
Idk how it's possible but it happened, the madlads made a deck worse then Mono Red
@35:50 do people say Campbell? I’ve always pronounced it Kum-ball lol
What would be a good removal-focused Brawl commander
lol
Look at his last brawl video with the orzhov alchemy commander.
Tergrid
I had a feeling heist was busted when I tried it out in the event a couple of weeks ago. Grenzo is just insane when he gets rolling.
That was a really fun event.
"get ready to pause" would be THE cure 4 planet eArTh
LOL i beat that deck just earlier today with a GW Aura-Equipments deck. All i had to keep doing was putting auras and enchantments that either exiled him or remove all abilities.
Right? It's not unbeatable. I run a heist deck and my only removal is Weave the Nightmare. I lose to guys who have faster decks, or sometimes I just get a less than optimal play out on my end. Such as not pulling any mana of one of the colors.
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I’ve barely watch so far. And maybe other people feel differently, but I know this video is gonna be great. However, I would love to see the MTGA deck list visually in videos because that shows the curve better, and has all the arts that I’m used to.
I've definitely seen some bugs with heist. I've been playing Grenzo, Getaway, etc in a few decks, but I'm pretty sure every single time an opponent cast a heist card then used one of my heist cards, they got an additional card out of my deck. Could have been a visual bug but I'm pretty sure they've gotten extra cards every time they heist my deck with my cards they heisted. Lol
At least he does to removal unlike voja
Shelly did some work in that first game.
game 1 why didn't they put the ancestral mask on their flyer?
Do a Prosper Historic Brawl deck. I slammed one together and got up to a 70% win rate last week. Think it's an underutilized OP commander.
Kind of waiting for the return of the Pillowfort
CGB got that Casey Neistat drip.
CGB I’m going down to Orlando for a Memorial Day weekend tournament and my team willl be staying in that building during the trip.
Against that Amalia deck it seemed like a mistake to throw palantir given how aggressive they like to spend their life. I'd definitely cut Palantir and the one ring, they don't fit with how the deck plays
I've had a deck called "Gonti and Friends" since Gonti came back to arena. It's a terrible deck with nothing really in it that wins a game but it does decent winning with the opponent's deck.
Where are the pillows?
"Deck list is gonna be on screen in: 3, 2, 1." Goes to a 15 sec Mobile game ad... insane ad placement lmao feels like a rick roll 😮
Time to put in a bug report it seems!
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I made it to Mythic with a Heist deck and the only removal card in my deck is Weave the Nightmare. Heist is only as toxic as the deck it steals from. If you think heist is the worst thing ever you probably have a really toxic deck build.
The problem with heist is that let You pick from 3 nonland card from the opponent every time you do it. That alone gaves you higher chances of drawing their best cards than the chances the opponent have drawing normally. It also feels very bad to lose to the best cards of your deck and realizing that You have lesser chances to get a copy of that card via normal draw because one copy was stolen
@@juanlopesss Again if you aren't running a cheap deck overflowing with removal(exile, counter spells, destroy effects, burn damage) then none of this bothers you. I ran into another person running a heist deck like my own and it was a pretty funny match. Who would have guessed that since I don't have a ton of removal all they could do was hope for good cards from my deck. Also if your "strategy" requires wiping the field to be effective it's not strategy it's just playing on easy. You wouldn't believe how frequently I heist someone and find nothing but removal looking back at me. 2 depopulate, and a wrath of God. No need to feel bad stealing from decks like that. Also you do realize that unlike say graveyard strategies heist decks still have to pay the cost of the card unless Grenzo is out and that's still only one free card per turn. How about the strategies that get omniscience, etali, and other high drops on the field for nothing by putting the cards in the graveyard first? The mizzix mastery combo, anything involving the paradox engine and aetherflux reservoir? Those are all worse than heist.
@@juanlopesss You says it's not fun anymore when someone uses your "best cards" against you. None of it bothers you if your strategy isn't cheap, and overflowing with removal ( exile, destroy, counter spells, burn damage) I played another heist deck and had a good match. If I heist someone then 2 depopulate, and a wrath of God pop up I don't feel bad for stealing from decks like that. Or ones running graveyard strategies, monster manual, the aetherflux reservoir, mizzix mastery, Planeswalkers and field wipes. At least heist makes you still pay to play the opponents card(unless Grenzo is out). If your "strategy" requires field wipes then it's not strategy. It's playing on easy mode. Like I said in my first comment Heist is only as toxic as the deck it's stealing from.
Good point.
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The one thing I didn't need more of on Arena was free spell. Why on Earth does he have the "pay 0" effect. Heist mechanic is fine, free spells are not...
I think the idea is "you paid 6 mana for this card, on average you will hit something of equal or lesser mana value, so it's alright if the spell you find is free because otherwise you just paid 6 for a 6/4 and passing" plus people will hold up removal if they think he is coming down that turn so you don't get to cast whatever you find for free. But in practice it's still obviously pretty nuts. Doubly so if you happen to have a scam card in hand to profit off of your opponents removal. Especially if you have something that makes you go mana positive from it like Prosper or Lootmonger.
It definitely could have been "cost 2 less" or something like that instead of pay 0, WotC really trying their best to make me quit Arena (99% of my playtime is on Brawl and the format is full of bullshit nowadays)
Went against this deck and opponent went Primeval Titan -> Portal of Phyrexia off of my deck for free. I don't know why Wizards is so hesitant to tweak Arena only cards when that was supposed to be the whole point of Arena only cards. We're probably stuck with this crap until Wizards decides to print something else that doesn't belong in standard queue. (2) less to cast taking off the once per turn restriction would definitely feel better to me or at least don't give him heist since it gives you choice, just give them a random card ffs.
Heist isn’t fine, indefinite steal effects have always been an issue. They banned agent of treachery for that reason. But this is an agent of treachery that costs 1 less and can steal non permanent spells, can steal spells your opponent doesn’t even have the mana to cast and does it every turn.
Heist is mill if mill gave you card draw. Whoever looked at mill and said “let’s make this worse to play against” need a wellness check.
@@dittmar104 Agent of treachery is a STEAL effect, which is very different. Also, it was banned because of the Winota combo, not because it was inherently broken (go read the notes regarding its ban).
I've had opponent play cards from my deck since I started in 2014, it's totally fine to me. Heck we even just got a Commander Precon that was entirely themed around playing cards from your opponents' decks. Totally fine with that. My issue is with the COST. The 1 mana heist card should have been 2 mana, and grenzo shouldnt be able to cast them for free.
If you don't have an issue with the Gonti deck, then you shouldn't be worried about Heist. If you have an issue with the Gonti deck, then you should reevaluate what you have issues with.
TLDR : heist is a fine mechanic, the problem is the cards with the mechanic printed on them.
Just played against Grenzo and it was the worst experience playing magic since Nexus of Fate
04:20 CGB doxxing himself is legendary
i just scoop when i see grenzo its just not fun. The rule for commander is if you cant have fun, dont let your opponent have fun.
I'm tragically awful at Magic, so I love commanders like Grenzo, Poq, Etali, etc... that play the game for me while I sit there - comatose - pretending like I'm doing something while my commander wins for me and in spite of me. Fun commander!
21:40 brawl is just zoomer commander, snow lands are also good flair with very little downside
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Oh Grenzo seems gross as a commander. Also love your fit today. Lol
I absolutely hate this commander. I swear in 5 out of 7 games, they got etali out of my deck (out of that 5 etali triggers they hit ulamog twice). When they not hit etali the worst they get is usually something like terror of the peaks. It is not that I cant handle losing, I just get so salty when they get so unbelievably lucky. I only got to resolve etali once with my deck, I got Utopia sprawl and llanowar loamspeaker. It is pissing me off
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I see Alchemy i close the video.
200K Done WOW GG WP
I see one of those, I scoop. By the way, the guy who invented heist mechanic is on my hit list - alongside every single one who played this thing as their commander.
I almost wish that card was playable in paper. It would bring back old good "face value" aspect to the game. Basically, every deck you could play in paper back then had its own "face value". It was an uncertain amount of your own physical face you could end up sacrificing outside the store after you`ve played something disgusting.
what a cool card!! fantastic!!! wonderfull even!!!!!
Ok last time we got a hot tub stream. This time are we going to get a swimsuit stream of worst possible? We all want to see ben in a purple polkadot bikini! Give the people what they want!!! Ok obviously just kidding please dont do that. Hope yall are having fun and can't wait to see the worst possible Florida edition!
OTJ and OTJ Alchemy had a ton of fun commanders I feel like. Grenzo is definitely one of them
Be careful in Florida. Most of the “Florida man” stories never make it out of here.
not a single falcon in the deck list, trash……..😂
Why is your mic quality bad?
Heist is such trash
Last game was so bad. Why not pick all the worst options eh?
YES!!! When he got Gronzo on the board immediatley followed by WHAT!! YOU MONSTER!! That is exactly how I feel,its such an expensive card to get on the board and the majority of ppl play a lot of removal and counters nowadays,but when it resolves,its a nasty card
Dude... You've been playing this game for years. And you can't understand when you're the one roping out? 🤦🏻
My Fuse is orange.
Your Fuse is Blue.
And I’ve only been playing this game about a month.
Grenzo, Krenko's uglier and more broken older brother...
I think he's okay. Absolutely amazing if your opponent's deck is crammed full of generic value cards; Very awkward if their cards are supposed to trigger off each other.
At my level, it feels similar to Etali and I'd much rather face Grenzo than Voja, Atraxa, or Jodah.
Heist is unfun, broken and ruined alchemy. Everyone should stop playing heist
I fully admit Grenzo is overtuned; I also admit that it's possibly the most fun I've had in Brawl in a while, while acknowledging that a lot of that fun comes from how busted free stuff is. That said, I hope they tune Grenzo rather than heist overall, because heist is definitely one of my favourite keywords in a while (up there with crime).
alchemy sucks and ruins yet another format
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I hate this trend of putting spoilers in the beginning of the video
* Alchemy is the biggest mistake in Magic
Fixed it for you
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