The Price Of Magic: The Gathering Cards Is A Lie

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    I'm giving away 40 fetchlands to viewers this Monday, October 21 at 11am Pacific on Whatnot! Sign up at www.whatnot.com/invite/tolariancollege for $15 credit towards your first purchase!

    • @cruthius6154
      @cruthius6154 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whatnot never gave me my credit when I signed up with your invite and then, when notifying them issue, they said "oh well and here's the steps on how to delete your account from Whatnot." This is a Whatnot scam and I'm sorry Professor, I will not be ever supporting scams.

    • @markusreed5447
      @markusreed5447 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wait so what is it 40 Single Fetchlands or 40 SETS of Fetchlands you switched what you said about that Giveaway throughout this Video

    • @tonyhickey2187
      @tonyhickey2187 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How about just to illustrate your point, during the next booster box game, you include the prerelease price?

    • @alexanderhenderson5583
      @alexanderhenderson5583 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What, not original dual lands?!

    • @jbwilliamson3471
      @jbwilliamson3471 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My birthday is the 21st, Prof!

  • @eegles
    @eegles หลายเดือนก่อน +2293

    Wow, people accused you of general incompetence? At its worst, this channel is guilty of second lieutenant incompetence.

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +653

      A+ comment

    • @ILikePi31415926535
      @ILikePi31415926535 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      Captain Incompetence reporting for duty 🫡

    • @brady3126
      @brady3126 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Major Incompetence 🫡

    • @jb95467
      @jb95467 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      My own goal is to only ever achieve private incompetence.

    • @SightedAxis
      @SightedAxis หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Commander Incompetence was right there. They blew it

  • @yaarman4964
    @yaarman4964 หลายเดือนก่อน +768

    "There are a lot of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing."

    • @beach_lion
      @beach_lion หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Speculation is a childish hobby 0: ) See: Pokemon TCG, Beanie Babies, crypto, day trading, booster boxes...

    • @Highwaym4n
      @Highwaym4n หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought those were 'Cynics'....

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FOMO is a card. Concidence? I think not!

  • @LeonaDX
    @LeonaDX หลายเดือนก่อน +1614

    It will always be funny watching an English professor try to tell people in the nicest way possible to get better at reading comprehension

    • @TheYoutubeUser69
      @TheYoutubeUser69 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Well, listening comprehension technically?

    • @johnkerber9578
      @johnkerber9578 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He was an English professor after all.

    • @nickpress9078
      @nickpress9078 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Profs just out here busting his ass to get the level of rhetoric in the MTG community downgraded from homicidal to merely vitriolic 😂

    • @JaredBruner
      @JaredBruner หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      "Reading the card explains the card"

    • @imperialcitizen4811
      @imperialcitizen4811 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He never was a professor. That is a title he never held or earned. The channel name is built on stolen valor.

  • @matheusfmmmartins
    @matheusfmmmartins หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    People talk trash about you and you lecture them for 20 minutes to protect them, mostly, from themselves. Never change, Prof!

  • @thetrinketmage
    @thetrinketmage หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    Unless you find some hidden gem nobody else realized was good. Pre-sale prices are basically like throwing money away

    • @kennystamper7873
      @kennystamper7873 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Inn keepers talent was that for me. Got it pre sale for $2. I was shocked it was valued so low

    • @VreskHyena
      @VreskHyena หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Can attest the the latter lol; I’m a newer player and didn’t know better so I spent $15 on a showcase Dragonhawk and the price is now less than half that

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@kennystamper7873 Players tend to evaluate cards that need additional mana to "get good" after you play them to be not worth it most of the time. They see 8-9 total mana investment for all effects and immediately dismiss the card.

    • @grahamlarsen2082
      @grahamlarsen2082 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah tell em Trinket!!! Be smart with your money folks

    • @scaredycat3146
      @scaredycat3146 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ironically those hidden gems are one of the reasons for the high presale prices - predictions are hard and nobody wants to leave money on the table.

  • @jaredwonnacott9732
    @jaredwonnacott9732 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    That last point of, "You may not agree, but you should at least stop and consider why someone else believes that" is the most teacher thing you've ever said. It also might be the most valuable piece of advice you've ever given.

  • @stephleobisson
    @stephleobisson หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    I remember correcting a University Prof as a 1st year student due to a single study. Was told, "we'll see" and by my 3rd year, multiple studies came proving my Prof right and I wrong. He'd just smile every time he saw me and the only "I told you so" he did was "It's experience." I feel the same with you

  • @RazgrizAce67
    @RazgrizAce67 หลายเดือนก่อน +388

    Alternate video title: Explaining supply and demand to plebs 101

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +148

      I mean...

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@TolarianCommunityCollegeMagic players desperately need a video on this subject.

    • @raiserofchickens
      @raiserofchickens หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I used to get in to arguements all the time with certain players at my old LGS about value and worth and price of cards. I always used a booster pack as my example, and that cards were only ever worth the price of the booster divided by the number of cards in the booster, which worked out to somewhere around fifty cents per card at the time, and the fact that a card could be resold or rebought as a single at a different price tag was subjective based on supply and demand. A 5 dollar rare was only worth 5 dollars on the secondary market because that is what the majority of people were willing to pay for it.

    • @matttran7161
      @matttran7161 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@spamtonto I blame rudy for this nonsense. Eight figure position of magic cards in my basement so you can get rich, too.

    • @Dskinny23
      @Dskinny23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is the negative way the professor would put it. You're right lol

  • @Tedisabear
    @Tedisabear หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I sold that foil ponder for a $100 credit at magic Con Chicago. I am so happy.

  • @francescocastelli4707
    @francescocastelli4707 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    It always baffled me on EDH changed pricing. Ten years ago, I played legacy and the expensive cards were cards were tournament staples (e.g. Tarmogoyf, Snapcaster mage) and that always made sense to me: you want to play competitively, and the cards you need are more expensive, if you want to play just for fun, your experience will be cheaper. That's what draw me to commander, as it was a fun new format that was really cheap, but that also allowed you to create strong decks. I remember buying a Cyclonic Rift for $6 back then, or a Chrome Mox for $10, as both were not competitive cards. Now instead value is merely dicated by supply and demand, which is interesting because there are no incentives to play with real cards. Sorry if I said that, but it is true: if you play for fun with your friends, why spending thousands of dollars? If you go to a tournament, you are instead forced to play cards.

    • @raze667
      @raze667 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I pay for and play with real cards so I can trade those cards with my real life friends who also buy and play with real cards.

  • @antoniocinotti9686
    @antoniocinotti9686 หลายเดือนก่อน +456

    "NO"
    "NO!"
    "HOW LOW?!"
    "WOAH"
    "GOTTA GO!"
    "OH!"
    "HELLO"
    prof exercising his doctorate to the max lol

    • @Chiavica
      @Chiavica หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Show don’t tell!

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      It's the only thing it is good for.

    • @mikeharter5195
      @mikeharter5195 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont sell yourself short. It shows in the delivery of every video you put out​@@TolarianCommunityCollege

    • @DrArthropod
      @DrArthropod หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lots of P alliteration throughout as well, pizza ponder promo I suspect was the prompt.

    • @AlexofZippo
      @AlexofZippo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TolarianCommunityCollegehey, I’ve heard with some lamination English degrees make excellent placemats!

  • @onimcm
    @onimcm หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Ever since Jace, the Mindsculpter was on presale for $40 and jumped to $100, the retailers decided they were going to get the money upfront.

  • @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
    @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Ever since "FOMO" became a term in the public consciousness, I've marked nearly all pre-sales for singles as such. Their pricing is strictly based around the fear of missing out, both in terms of a product potentially having limited quantity and the possibility of the card's price rising even higher because of some unforeseen circumstance.
    The reality is that such circumstances rarely come about. For every One Ring, Fallout Mana Vault, or Phyrexian Mental Misstep... you have hundreds (or even thousands) of cards that tank in price after being out in the wild for less than a week.

    • @beach_lion
      @beach_lion หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yup. The "near hit" effect of seeing all the missed opportunities is what keeps gamblers coming back.

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht หลายเดือนก่อน

      That general assessment is rather useless. There are some simple considerations to keep in mind:
      - for print-to-demand sets, box EV will always level out to average wholesale box price, and most of the value will sit in no more than ten cards of the set, mostly only in 2 to 3 chase cards for the set. Check previous still in print set's prices to anticipate current set.
      - even if special versions of cards manage to hold a higher value, the market for those versions is much thinner than for the regular game piece, so good luck running into a buyer at your regular place of play
      - reprints in limited print run sets, unless they crush the price completely, tend to not break price trends in the long run. So if you want a particular card, this is the place where FOMO makes sense, get it while it's dipping.

  • @KarimJovian
    @KarimJovian 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love these type of videos where you go deep into prices and the oddities of it. It’s a pleasure

  • @thePrinceofFrogs
    @thePrinceofFrogs หลายเดือนก่อน +390

    No real turtle would eat a Chicago "pizza" TURTLES EAT NEW YORK PIZZA!!!

    • @WangerZ3291
      @WangerZ3291 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      HA!

    • @jamesgasik3424
      @jamesgasik3424 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      We're talking about teenagers who will eat ice cream and anchovies on a pizza. I don't think they'd suddenly turn up their noses at a stuffed crust or deep dish.

    • @thePrinceofFrogs
      @thePrinceofFrogs หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @jamesgasik3424 Chicago isn't deep dish, it's tomato soup with cheese and sausage in a bread bowl. What's wrong with anchovies and ice cream?

    • @jamesgasik3424
      @jamesgasik3424 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thePrinceofFrogs Probably the same thing that's wrong with pineapples and ham, lol. It sounds like something you'd find on a Californian pizza!

    • @SeanRodgers-kj2rp
      @SeanRodgers-kj2rp หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For this I revoke his water pass for this he shall be a tortoise

  • @papaflowers5726
    @papaflowers5726 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    If youre working on expensive secret lairs, heres some fun stuff:
    The Evil Dead secret lair shot up crazy to 190 being the lowest on tcg player sealed.
    In addition to the wild fanbase, the Evil Dead secret lair drop was NOT INCLUDED in ANY BUNDLES. People just clicked to buy the bundle not realizing that it wasnt in there and got the worst case of FORCED fomo EVER.

    • @SeriosSkies92
      @SeriosSkies92 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that pretty thassa's oracle.

  • @ethanglaeser9239
    @ethanglaeser9239 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    I can’t help but think of Thor:
    “All prices are made up”

    • @Medowokha-bp5lq
      @Medowokha-bp5lq หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Each card valued straight from the source is $0.10, no more, no less. Value on the secondary market is all in the minds of people just like NFTs and crypto, collectables are entirely made up worth.

    • @iskabin
      @iskabin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Medowokha-bp5lqeverything is

    • @julius6803
      @julius6803 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Money itself is of made up value

    • @Dinkbass
      @Dinkbass หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Medowokha-bp5lq people get mad at me but I give them choice. They say this card is $10 but I say I will only give you $5 take it or leave it

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Medowokha-bp5lqThe value of everything is made up. What is the intrinsic value of an ounce of gold?

  • @zombiepainter2169
    @zombiepainter2169 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    10:27 this is the ebay mentality that 99.99% of collectors have.. “well it sold for $____ that means it’s worth!that much”…no, some goober paid that much, once..

    • @TheClone37
      @TheClone37 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      As somone in the surplus firearm market, very much this. "Somone paid $$$ for a X rifle, therfore i can sell mine for $$$+$ because it's in good condition"
      No, your 5 decade old rifle made in the millions is not worth 1200$, just somone was dumb enough to buy one once.

    • @minervadetauro7646
      @minervadetauro7646 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Most of the price of presale cards is essentially what I call the "dumbass tax"

  • @freezekitto4370
    @freezekitto4370 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I picked up a Festival in a Box. It was my first big Magic purchase and I was super stoked to get it. I'll be honest, I love the chibi art secret lair and I love the Mystery Booster 2 product.
    I was fortunate to open a Gix, Yawgmoth's Praetor in Future Sight and sold it immediately for $350 and recuperated the price of the box. What blew me away with Mystery Booster 2 wasn't the flashy cards, but all of the cards were, dare I say, good. Every pack I opened I felt had some cards that I would genuinely love to play, and cards that would fit in my decks or help me make new ones.
    I genuinely feel Festival in a Box was the best Magic-related purchase I've made in a long time. My only regret is that I didn't grab a second one.

    • @georgiopapakonstantinou1580
      @georgiopapakonstantinou1580 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's how I felt as well. I got it to try it out and got a lot of value and usable cards. I wish I got another since they are so expensive now. The new borders and arts were a great idea

    • @JasonFanelli
      @JasonFanelli หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same! As someone who got back into MTG in the last two years, it felt like a great "catch-up" for me. Pulled Thassa's Oracle, Bolas' Citadel, Natural Order, and a few others...oh and the Urza Future Sight frame foil, but that's another story lol.

    • @BARadiantDawn
      @BARadiantDawn หลายเดือนก่อน

      I pulled mirri :) very pretty card

    • @earthpond8043
      @earthpond8043 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a really cool set for sure very interesting and unique treatments all around.

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    The way I see it, Hasbro shouldn’t be allowed to have it both ways:
    Not re-printing cards in order to ‘maintain reprint equity’; AND not re-printing cards, therefore reducing the value of every product they make.
    However, if people buy these products instead of singles or proxies… they won’t stop.
    This game just isn’t the stock market, and trying to evaluate it like one is more often than not just going to leave you confused, if not out a lot of money.
    Buy the cards you want to play with and can afford, proxy the ones you want to play with and can’t. If you _have_ to invest in Magic, buy sealed products instead of individual cards.

    • @Medowokha-bp5lq
      @Medowokha-bp5lq หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Nah don't invest in Magic, invest in a index fund like a normal person. You'll get way more money than with Magic in the same timeframes. Hell buy US bonds, invest in a Roth, fucking anything other than collectibles is better in both return and safety.

    • @Azeria
      @Azeria หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Medowokha-bp5lq I mean that is what I was saying. I specifically said if you _have_ to invest in Magic because I don't think you should, even if sometimes some people are good enough at it to make money.

    • @TheYoutubeUser69
      @TheYoutubeUser69 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Play sealed events at the lgs, proxy everything else

    • @technoturnovers7072
      @technoturnovers7072 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I honestly kind of hate it when people use the term 'reprint equity', because that's literally just a bullshit made-up MTGfinance term. Like, what the hell is 'equity' supposed to mean in this context? Equity implies ownership in something of (at least nominally) intrinsic value; for example, if you own stock in a company, you literally own a small portion of that company's assets, and in the rare event that that company liquidates without having any outstanding debt, you will receive a share of the liquidation equal to how much stock you own. MTG cards have no intrinsic value, you have no equity in them

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Pokemon manages to be extremely collectible while remaining extraordinarily cheap to play. Magic just sucks.

  • @chrishogan9143
    @chrishogan9143 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You're telling me that THE Professor knows his stuff and has good insight into the secondary market of the game and community he's basically the face of? Inconceivable.

    • @brianmarsal9717
      @brianmarsal9717 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Face of ? Lol the dudes a stooge

  • @Parkourjumper1
    @Parkourjumper1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great handling of the people talking trash to you. Man I love how calm you are. Great video and thank you for your insight :)

  • @Pirsival
    @Pirsival หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Lmao convention in a box selling out before the convention in it's name

  • @Elnato23
    @Elnato23 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You were the architect of awesome alliteration in this adaption 🤣

  • @jotun9988
    @jotun9988 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Prof is one the few creators I listen to all the way. HIs videos are just coherent and well said.

  • @oldmanyeet3301
    @oldmanyeet3301 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    My dude really made a 20 minute, I told ya so video 😂 Love it 🤣

  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I bet if the turtle had four colored variants, they'd be worth more.

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Always appreciate videos addressing problems like this! You do a lot of this community so thank you tons man! 🤘

    • @CyberBuster93
      @CyberBuster93 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also I hope you've been feeling much better lately! Don't push yourself too hard! 😄

  • @zachshowalter-castorena6130
    @zachshowalter-castorena6130 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

    Somewhere in England Spice8Rack is screaming into his monitor "you were close. you were THIS close to interrogating the underlying flaws of Capitalism"

    • @cherry9787
      @cherry9787 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      The underlying flaws? Greed, as with everything lmfao

    • @Shinius
      @Shinius หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      I mean, the dude who created modern capitalism has assumptions built into it that are absolutely not accurate to reality.
      Capitalism requires...
      1. Perfect information - A market where people have secret information will lead to irrational actions, yet we know insider trading is widespread and rarely caught.
      2. No extranalities - A transaction between two people cannot affect a third party, otherwise the transaction does not accurately reflect in the outcomes. A person hiring a second person to mow lawns at 2 A.M. will cause other people to wake up from the noise, hence extranalities.
      3. Rational actors - People will always act rationally, if products are equivalent, people should always purchase the product with the most utility, like, no name cinnamon vs name brand cinnamon. But we know people will buy the brand name one.
      Among many other requirements that are absolutely not accurate to reality. Like perfect mobility, a large number of sellers and buyers, etc. From a person who studied the history of markets and economics.

    • @xileets
      @xileets หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@cherry9787 Yes but he's British, so "underlying flaws" is more non-committal. Though, perhaps a more embellished phrase like, "...inherent flotsam of capitalism, which forces us to endure the tedium of our social discourse in an ultimately mundane effort until end of days and trumpets sound," would have been more English.

    • @iskabin
      @iskabin หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Shinius It doesn't require any of this though, just look around...

    • @__-be1gk
      @__-be1gk หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He's saying that like its a bad thing, there's a reason I unsubbed from Spice

  • @chantryfolkedahl3098
    @chantryfolkedahl3098 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Perfect timing. Showed up exactly as I was looking for something like this

  • @tangsprell1812
    @tangsprell1812 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For me, the worst part about playing TCGs nowadays are the hordes of "investment bros" who show up at every event and never ever participate other than sitting at the sidelines and trying to grift people into buying from their boxes full of identical graded cards. Pokémon is the most popular TCG in my area, so I play that. During any casual game night at my LGS, there's like a small handful of us actually playing the game, and then there's half a dozen adults priming future gambling addicts with no regard for the damage they're causing. I've had a kid start sobbing after they lost their first ever game because they were not getting the maximum amount of prize packs their 30-year old dad next to them told them they should be hoarding.
    It's all about money all the way down, and any fun we can have is immediately undercut by a bunch of sweaty adults teaching people in the most formative parts of their lives that these social gatherings are nothing but arenas to make money at any cost.
    I like to hang out at my LGS and frankly I'm getting so tired of watching kids and adults alike gamble their money away for the one card they think is going to unsink their cost. Barely anybody plays Pokémon even though the game is quite fun and cheap to get into. You can build a good deck for like 20-30 bucks easily but these people just don't care. We try to host frequent beginner and casual events and teach as best we can. Hell, we give beginners free decently powerful decks we've made for them so the cost of entry is literally zero, but all anyone asks about is whether the Scream Pikachu or 151 full-art Charizard will go to the moon in a month and how many they should buy.
    I want to support my LGS because it's the only one left in the area, but the mentality of TCGs being a vehicle for making money has gotten so strong that it's dominating the entire social space and making those of us who aren't cool with reckless gambling for jackpot cards very uncomfortable. Can any of you Magic players let me know how this is for you? I hear more people actually play Magic, so maybe I should just move on and find a place to play that.

  • @ConFusi0n
    @ConFusi0n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Several years ago when I was first getting into magic, I saw people swearing that Damping Sphere was going to be a modern staple, so I speculated and bought a playset of it presale (for about $5 apiece iirc). Lo and behold, when Dominaria actually came out, the presale price turned out to be way too high, and I decided not to buy presale again. I'm gald I was able to learn my lesson without losing too much money. Thanks Professor for bringing attention to it.

  • @NoxiousWhat
    @NoxiousWhat หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Me, printing cardboard: So is this worth anything?
    Them: NO, IT’S NOT THE RIGHT PRINTER!
    Me: But it’s high quality and plays the same.
    Them: NO, IT’S NOT ABOUT THE CARD, IT’S ABOUT THE CARDBOARD.
    Me: Wait, the cardboard?
    Them: YES, IT HAS TO BE EXACTLY THE CARDBOARD FROM EXACTLY THE PRINTER.
    Me: Oh, I get it, it's all about copyright, right?
    Them: NO, IT’S NOT ABOUT COPYRIGHT, IT’S ABOUT AUTHENTICITY AND FAIRNESS.
    Me: Fairness?
    Them: YES. IF I HAVE TO PAY $200 FOR A PIECE OF CARDBOARD, WHY SHOULD YOU GET TO PRINT IT?
    Me: You could buy a printer, or I could print you one-or ten. That’s fair, right?
    Them: NO.
    Me: Why??
    Them: BECAUSE IT RUINS THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME!
    Me: The spirit of spending hundreds on cardboard?
    Them: NO, THE SPIRIT OF COLLECTING, TRADING, AND OWNING THE REAL THING!
    Me: But if it plays the same...
    Them: IT'S NOT ABOUT PLAYING! IT’S ABOUT HOLDING A PIECE OF HISTORY IN YOUR HANDS!
    Me: What if I sign the copy I give you and give it a collectible number. It'll be a 1-of-1.
    Them: THAT'S EVEN WORSE! NOW YOU'RE DEFACING IT!
    Me: Okay then. What if I don't sign it?
    Them: IT’S STILL NOT REAL!
    Me: What is real?
    Them: REAL IS THE OFFICIAL CARD, WITH THE OFFICIAL INK, FROM THE OFFICIAL PRINTER, APPROVED BY THE OFFICIAL COMPANY!
    Me: So, reality is just corporate approval?
    Them: ... NO, IT'S-WELL...
    Me, turning to the printer: Whew. I don't think I'm smart enough to understand. I'll just stick to this.
    ~~~ PRINTER GOES BRRRRRR ~~~

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Enough of you already proxy cards that I can't imagine why any LGS would take the risk of holding any Magic set. They all dump viciously below distribution. Soon enough you guys will have your wish of all proxies and a player owned Wiki I suppose.

    • @NoxiousWhat
      @NoxiousWhat หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@spamtonto Magic would already survive WotC dying; most people don't tend to proxy cheap cards, but most people will proxy if they want custom art, or if a card's price on the secondary market is above a threshold they're personally not willing to cross.
      Each person has their reasons to proxy if they do, and there really aren't any wrong reasons, aside from trying to pass them off as real in a counterfeit sale, and maybe if you're joining official competitive events that specifically forbid proxies/playtest/custom cards.

    • @lVideoWatcherl
      @lVideoWatcherl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spamtonto And even at the prices the sets are sold, they aren't worth the money! Curious, almost as if the prices that are demanded of the consumer in this hobby are actually absurdly inflated and should be nowhere near what they are!

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lVideoWatcherl I wouldn't pay anything for Magic because Magic players don't even value Magic cards. I've never seen a hobby where the participants hated the item more than Magic.

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @NoxiousWhat Magic would definitely survive, someone would buy the IP. And even if no one bought the IP I'm sure you guys would make some kind of Wiki and continue on with proxies beyond my death. Still worthless cards when the participants don't even value them lol

  • @captainflapjax7240
    @captainflapjax7240 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dang prof, I admire you and your team's restraint and professionalism and overall maturity. I would not have been able to hold myself back from some more...scathing remarks towards those people.

  • @JoshOfFire
    @JoshOfFire หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    As an economics student, I feel more magic players should take an economics class or two. I've found it's genuinely helped not just with assessing purchases but with actually playing the game itself, by making me look at the game in a different way and assess things like opportunity costs of my plays.

    • @andrestorres1799
      @andrestorres1799 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would read your blogpost regarding this topic...

    • @Thad-Dunkems
      @Thad-Dunkems หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only took intro to microeconomics in college, but it was one of the most valuable courses I took. I agree more people (especially magic players) should take economics classes.

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should just buy Pokemon instead lol

  • @TheCactusMad
    @TheCactusMad หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for your keen eye on card evaluation and being a voice of reason amid a sea of well yeah. keep up your amazing work Prof!

  • @2Solstice2
    @2Solstice2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thank you professor for this video. I bought the festival in a box and I am very happy with it. However, I don't sell cards, ever. MTG is a game that is there for me to throw money at and go out and have a good time with friends. If I open a pack with a expensive card it just tickles me and goes into a deck. Cards are for playing.

    • @gspoiler
      @gspoiler หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love watching people play with "rare" and "high value" cards. People like Andrea Manguci playing legacy. It's sad to see cards in slabs unless you're Wubby and play with the slabs on.

    • @brianmarsal9717
      @brianmarsal9717 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well it is a collectible card game. You dont get to decide what people collect

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe that there must be a threshold for everyone. I usually only sell cards when they spike heavily or when they are more than due for a reprint. I sold all my Mana Vaults for 90€ when the bans hit and have since rebought all of them for ~50€ each. I also offloaded my Sorin Markov since I believe it will be reprinted in Innistrad Remastered. Whenever I squeeze out some bucks like this, I put those back into "eat your vegetable" cards like lands. So it's akin to trading, I'd say.
      Just out of curiosity: If you had pulled the 1/1 The One Ring, would you have kept it or would you have taken the life-changing money?

    • @2Solstice2
      @2Solstice2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oelboy You are correct. If I did pull the one of one ring I would have sold that card ASAP, as I do not have the resources to own something that valuable. However, that card is an outlier.
      Once again you are correct that there is some threshold of what I will put in a deck. I don't like throwing down a deck with over $500 of value. But for cards valued under 2.5 million do not sell.

    • @Crushanator1
      @Crushanator1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@2Solstice2lots of cards below $2.5 sell. Even if you just go into your LGS and take their cash offer, eBay is a thing for spiky cards.
      I've gotten a lot of cards in the $5-10ish dollar range from eBay at about half price what I'd play if I bought it online during the first month or so of a new set release. I'm paying a bit less, and likely buying the card from another Limited player

  • @tapedeccard
    @tapedeccard หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:40 I’ll be excited to see the prof add a dimension to my perception when he gives away those 4D fetchlands

    • @punkaerials
      @punkaerials หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are beautiful ❤️

  • @charliebirdnba
    @charliebirdnba หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I love it when Prof includes easter eggs as a language professor, like the rhyming in the beginning
    "no"
    "NO"
    "how low?"
    "WOW"
    "gotta go!"
    "Oh, hello!"

  • @mateastman1765
    @mateastman1765 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can not get enough of the professor's in-depth realism! Do not let those pre-release prices suck you in!

  • @christhompson8003
    @christhompson8003 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The reason to go by the regular price is because its fine to own the cheep version of a card and proxy the fancy art version. A lot of places will allow this, so long as you have the actual cards with you and the proxies arent "marked"
    Like with how bent foils are handled.

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LGS' are going to allow proxies their way into not carrying Magic products anymore lol
      Every set can't just dump massively below distribution or stores literally won't carry it anymore

  • @vDeadbolt
    @vDeadbolt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are essentially getting scammed from buying presale cards. A majority of LGS do this scummy tactic:
    If a card drops in price once the card comes out, you still pay the initial price.
    If a card raises in value after it was released, then they will cancel the order and charge someone else for the card.

  • @broman1449
    @broman1449 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    LETS GOOOOOOO PROF!
    Call it out and let it be known

  • @mfernandezsoberano
    @mfernandezsoberano หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most LGS know and are aware of the market trends in this video, if not they really should be. As a manager of an LGS please keep spreading the message to support your local LGS, it is the most volatile market and it’s hard for shops to get by because of it. Thanks Prof.

  • @melind82
    @melind82 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The most frustrating part about buying singles is while normally you want to wait a bit after a set releases to pick up the cards you are interested in, its very hard to predict which cards are going to be the bangers and continue to rise in price after release, but I suspect that this is why everything is really so inflated before release.
    I also used to pick up cards after they rotated out of standard, but thats really no longer a thing since rotations are glacially slow, and the eternal formats are much more popular than standard these days.

  • @einstein951
    @einstein951 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    14:44 Same also applies for Dust Bowl before the OTJ bonus sheet print (only had a single non-special print), or Priest of Titania (previously only available in precons and Urza's Saga)

  • @d43m0n412
    @d43m0n412 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I give you an A+ on this assignment of going na na a boo boo i was right and you were wrong... i think people truly forget how long you have been playing mtg, how long you have been making content, and just how long you have been evaluating products like this for... I am truly thankful to have our level headed professor who knows everything about the game of magic except how to win but once at a gameday (long time ago in a seemingly different dimension), and somehow on a game of game knights? which i still need to go back and watch to figure how you pulled that one off... but anyway to my good professor... enjoy your victory! may it last all of your days!

  • @MommaGart
    @MommaGart หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have lamented not purchasing the 2023 Festival in a Box for a year because I love chaos draft and still need a copy of Mox Opal. I will never think about the 2024 box again after this video.

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Aged Instructor" BAH, you don't look a day over 40!

  • @chuckawood
    @chuckawood หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a couple boosters from your shop a while back during one of your whatnot streams. Ended up pulling Exploration. Super exciting

    • @TheSareus
      @TheSareus หลายเดือนก่อน

      WhatNot is so underrated. People sleep on it so hard.

  • @benjamincruzj
    @benjamincruzj หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Good time to lunch and watch the Professor.... On other notes, any takes about the upcoming Foundations set?

  • @IgorDellaPietra
    @IgorDellaPietra หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I fully agree, but sometimes it's worth checking pre-sale prices because they in fact may not be inflated. I bought a playset of force of negation for 40€. But deals like that are rare

  • @Obelix0815
    @Obelix0815 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Prof., i got my ShuffleUp and Play Tokens today....they are awesome..greetings from austria

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wait...you got the Season3 ones already in Australia? Dang, shipping usually takes FOREVER to get out there! Congrats (and glad they arrived safe!)

    • @DenMedSvartNos
      @DenMedSvartNos หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@TolarianCommunityCollegehahah Prof., AustrIA, not AustrALIA 😄

    • @Obelix0815
      @Obelix0815 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege there are no kangaroos in austria ;)

  • @worstcyberpunkdystopia2188
    @worstcyberpunkdystopia2188 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always enjoy the sheer volume of alliteration you squeeze in your videos.

  • @mawortz
    @mawortz หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Magic cards are just the "OG" of NFTs, buy cards that make you happy to play. Don't buy them expecting to become a millionaire from them.

    • @lasselindkvist2051
      @lasselindkvist2051 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You missspelled "print"

    • @MTG69
      @MTG69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      buy = print

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is such a brainrot comment when the arts, especially pottery, crafting, and painting, have existed for millenia.

    • @nicolivoldkif9096
      @nicolivoldkif9096 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A better example is modern magic finance is the same as the comic book Balloon in the 90s. Only the really old and rare stuff is going to hold any value.

    • @nandopaiva4848
      @nandopaiva4848 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oelboy you are retarded but it's ok :)

  • @JTByrd386
    @JTByrd386 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Initial skepticism can be a healthy way to approach things, but failing to evaluate beyond that starting point is its own form of naivete.
    Also, love all the alliteration.

    • @spamtonto
      @spamtonto หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beyond a starting point every Magic product simply dumps forever.

  • @JohnFromAccounting
    @JohnFromAccounting หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Resale value doesn't matter if you don't sell the card. If you intend to add a card to your collection and not sell it, the monetary value is 0.

    • @yurisei6732
      @yurisei6732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Resale value still matters to collectors, in the sense that it's a measure of desirability. It feels good when your luck gives you a card that lots of people want.

  • @slackreviews
    @slackreviews หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone new to magic this is the one concept that makes complete sense.

  • @olaf.forkbeard
    @olaf.forkbeard หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "Invest" in your insecurities everybody.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your capitalist masters demand it!

  • @sadmiqoxiv
    @sadmiqoxiv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LGS recently started doing a $1 lucky dip, every single card that has come out of it has been $1+ cards.
    This is how you make value from bulk.
    Friend pulled a DCI Promo Command Tower worth $120AUD
    I would rather buy these than buy boosters.

  • @lucyarisato6850
    @lucyarisato6850 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    A 25 minute video from Prof is the best way to start the day.

    • @isit_faun
      @isit_faun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      couldn't have said it better myself

    • @shabadootv493
      @shabadootv493 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro it's 18:00 o clock

    • @isit_faun
      @isit_faun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shabadootv493 i am simply in a different time zone than you

    • @cheesedoodledad4255
      @cheesedoodledad4255 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yess.

    • @mogar4372
      @mogar4372 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      unfortunately i have to wait till my lunch break :(

  • @starchyarchie9743
    @starchyarchie9743 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video made my day! I actually looked up the price of that ponder when it first came out because I love the art and couldn’t justify $40. Saw the thumbnail and they’re indeed less than $2 now so I’ll pick one up today. Thanks prof 😅

  • @GraemeGunn
    @GraemeGunn หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love the phone gag all the time. It's such an easy gag to do to, he just needs an unplugged phone lol
    Edit: don't know why I said rotary, I know it's a touch-tone lol

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      hey hey, not rotary, just an old landline. It's still a touchtone.

    • @PlayaGuitar
      @PlayaGuitar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@TolarianCommunityCollege just wait for the "what does touchtone mean" comments to come in to twist the knife of age a little.

    • @GraemeGunn
      @GraemeGunn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege wait, my mistake, I don't know why I said rotary
      either way, never stop the phone gag!

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez หลายเดือนก่อน

      TOUCH-TONE TELEPHONE MENTIONED‼️

  • @mollygladwin8160
    @mollygladwin8160 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I, like a lot of people, really only bought the festival in a box for the mystery boosters 2. I love drafting and it looked like the best draft experience in recent memory. I wasn't looking at the promos as an investment, I was just excited about the draft.

  • @anthonyrasmussen1916
    @anthonyrasmussen1916 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    NOOOO! THAT'S TOO LOW!

  • @reezethevampire
    @reezethevampire หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had an insanely good experience with the festival in a box, but I also got very unlikely pulls, I think. Such as a foil Future Sight Stifle and a foil Future Sight Forest Bears, etc. I popped most of the cards into a list and have been tracking the prices and I'm sitting at well over $400 in value from the box and that DOESN'T include any of the promo cards or Collector Booster cards. Honestly, that was my favorite MTG opening experience of all time and I seriously, hugely regret not buying the maximum 3 boxes. Part of me really want them to do a normal retail release so I can buy 2 or 3 more. I know this will tank the prices of what I pulled, but man, the cards were just so fun. I got to see so many new cards that I didn't know about, experience MTG history, and really, the cards were just so playable.

    • @Welverin
      @Welverin หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got two foils!?

  • @enternamehere5498
    @enternamehere5498 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Hehehe, Prof coming in to rub it in people's noses really is delightful.

    • @Meibu1
      @Meibu1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really is nice.

  • @Dskinny23
    @Dskinny23 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the biggest issue is looking them as a financial valuable at all.
    Yes, maybe some magic Christmas land you will buy it and resell it for huge profits.
    Buy them because you enjoy them, want to collect them, or want to play with them. Same for opening packs, if it brings you joy and you can afford it, go for it.
    These aren't stocks and being treated as such is toxic for the community.
    Good video prof

  • @cheesemaster113
    @cheesemaster113 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    so many black women in mtg art...I've never seen a black woman play magic the gathering lol

  • @andrewduckydutkiewicz
    @andrewduckydutkiewicz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DANG! That green phone really goes well with the outfit! Good choice!

  • @LadyLunarSatine
    @LadyLunarSatine หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vid starts at 5:16

  • @Mischievous_Moth
    @Mischievous_Moth หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Presale prices are so unbelievably inflated that I cannot fathom the thought process that would lead to preordering a card.

  • @omegaoz
    @omegaoz หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    First?

    • @iacskys5962
      @iacskys5962 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No you silly goose

  • @Zackie_
    @Zackie_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was happy with my festival in a box this year, however, I feel I was pretty lucky to get a Fierce Guardianship, Ur-Dragon, Urza’s Saga, Divining Top and a Wasteland out of the box to mention just a few. Not everyone had the same luck and while I got some cool cards out of the collector boosters I would have preferred play booster boxes instead. (Just started playing magic this year so I treated the box as a way to increase my collection with things I knew I didn’t have)

  • @ScottieScottie-uw4xs
    @ScottieScottie-uw4xs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks, Prof. I’ve always known that presale numbers are bogus, but FOMO took over just once for me. I pre-bought Elesh Norn from Phyrexia All Will Be One. I was influenced by Sheldon’s opinion of the card and the fact that Sheoldred from Dominaria United was rocketing up at the time…didn’t want to miss on this one.
    Result? I spent $40 on a $20 card. Lesson learned.

  • @Tal_Thom
    @Tal_Thom หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something I’ve always loved about single prices is how scarcity is usually secondary to the meta when creating demand. And, as stated, popularity of the art/artist can really drive up price when scarcity is introduced.

  • @Tubluer
    @Tubluer หลายเดือนก่อน

    First rate video, Brian. You have some good reasons behind the ideas. Market expertise is a much needed thing in the MTG world.

  • @nick.hammes
    @nick.hammes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Professor's particularly pointed aggressive alliteration in this one just made me smile the whole time

  • @vassago42
    @vassago42 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This rebuttal is made of the stuff of Legend. I love this

  • @fazer8924
    @fazer8924 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well the price of that special lair Ponder is now skyrocketing soooooo 😅

  • @yaboiDD
    @yaboiDD หลายเดือนก่อน

    Informative video. It is also important not to overreact to card prices at pre-releases since it takes some time for the marketplace to settle on new cards.

  • @Phe0nix1986
    @Phe0nix1986 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’ve got this Prof. i really appreciate your price evaluations and methods. :)

  • @TheTobaccoman
    @TheTobaccoman หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with your price assessments. I feel that some want things to be contrary to that so much they lash out but power and scarcity are the keys to value. With an honorable mention to limited run arts of very wonderful artists also driving some costs.

  • @minervadetauro7646
    @minervadetauro7646 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an economist, I give you my applause for this video. You'd be surprised how many people don't seem to understand how markets work at a basic level.

  • @BLKW4RDR3M0N
    @BLKW4RDR3M0N หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing people always misunderstand is card promos are technically worth just above their lowest printed version once the market is saturated that much especially based on rarity.

  • @reinaldovilla4149
    @reinaldovilla4149 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure this is my first comment on one of your videos, I love your "I told you so" videos. It's almost like you've been doing this for SOO long.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @joe_h_Redwire
    @joe_h_Redwire หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing will top “Is it worth it to be a sellout shill” Prof. Your advice is always levelheaded.

  • @levethix
    @levethix หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing alliterations as always - awesome!

  • @SoulXCross.
    @SoulXCross. หลายเดือนก่อน

    You and Mario's Gaming World are my favorite content creators for any TCGs cuz y'all speak the truth and save me money. Cheers 🥂

  • @CentaurionArcher
    @CentaurionArcher หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well put, and great video!
    I was tempted by Festival in a Box more so because I wanted to play some limited but I waited until your video on it came out and grateful I did as it really made me realise I was just eager to open one or two of the reprints.
    There are one or two Secret Lairs I regret not getting because I love the art so much and they have held that value (Kelogsloop's secret lair specifically) but I've also managed to get some of the singles I ummed and erred about for super cheap.

  • @KapustaCuber
    @KapustaCuber 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t even play MTG anymore, but I love the artist behind that Ponder promo card and have two of his prints on my wall. Might have to pick one up.

  • @Nerex7
    @Nerex7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure if it was on my end or if it was the video but that intro was so loud, thank god for subtitles.

  • @Gonzomaster2OO5
    @Gonzomaster2OO5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldn’t agree more. To me a foil 7th Edition Evacuation is worth more to me than most because of the art and flavor text. I also value foil Biorhythm more than most. They have a special place in my heart.

  • @Welverin
    @Welverin หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did pick up Festival in a Box and I was happy with it, but I got it for the Mystery Booster 2 box and the promos and Collector's packs were just nice bonuses.

  • @TheAutumnLeavesPodcast
    @TheAutumnLeavesPodcast หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Prof for your never ending mana of Knowledge !

  • @GethYourMagic
    @GethYourMagic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needed to see something like this. Thank you, professor!

    • @GethYourMagic
      @GethYourMagic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      P.S. Need that fetchlands.

  • @Lil_Noot
    @Lil_Noot หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the Tolarian Winds that’s just a 15 second clip of you saying blah over and over 😂

  • @der_paddo
    @der_paddo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two weeks ago I've bought my first ever Secret Lair Cards. The Peach Momoko and Tome of the Astral Sorceress drops. Card's that don't fit my playstyle but the art was just so incredible. In this case I was fine with paying more than market value for those cards to put them on my shelf.

  • @6wild6flower6
    @6wild6flower6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spicy title! I'm excited!