The MAJOR Issue with the 2020 Yamaha R1... (and how to fix it)
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There's one BIG issue with the 2020 Yamaha R1. One of the best mods you can do on your motorcycle is an ECU flash. It's the quickest, most cost effective way to dramatically improve the rideability and performance of your bike. But you see, if you have a 2020 Yamaha R1, that's just not an option. Here's why, and here's the next best thing.
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Omg i just realized iv been watching your channel off and on for 8 years
Mee too.. 7 years here though.
Since I was like 15 riding a bicycle, now I'm 24 haha 😂 and owned 2 bikes
Dude, I'm legit in love with ur bikes...
I mean. I don’t know about everyone else. But i love the burbles and backfires.
My bike does it and I like it. I might try to get rid of it though just because it doesn’t feel smooth enough with the popping
After a while it can mess with your vents
it's nice, but if the bike is too loud it's not soo nice
You'll love it untill you end up with burned exhaust valves because your engine is running too lean.
@@1guy3cylinders32 uh popping can come from lean or rich. And actually do it even when the engine is running perfect. Brand new bikes pop and crackle. Same with high performance cars.
The problem with Rapidbike is it only manipulating the existing status.
No more performance is gained with this type of device.
None of the restrictions are removed and the throttle behavior is not changed.
Piggyback unit on a restricted US ECU is going to not cost effective.
On the unrestricted Euro bike it’s a different story.
Bottom line is it is a waste of money on a US bike 👎
100 % agree with you. you may get slightly better A/F with the piggyback, maybe, but it's not changing anything like an ECU flash does. The TPS and intake flap and all the other restrictions. If yamaha stops with the firmware changes, Woolich can get an ecu flash out.
Nick Santo Woolich haven’t even been into the ECU once yet.
I suspect they won’t be for quite a while. Bad news for Kawasaki fans it looks like the upcoming ZX10 refresh will use a similar MCU and not have tuning for a while.
Let's get it on the same dyno again and see how badly (or not)the rapid bike flops for its cost and pain of installation.love how bren tuning can flash bmws!
Did you guys see the new Mt-09? 🤢🤢🤢
You don't like the front of the bike?
V v v ugly
I love the new features but that headlight looks like a gen1 duke🙂
@@sjcorona1940 yeah agreed. Everything else is cool but I'd need an aftermarket head light.
Looks like they had HD design it!
This guy deserves more subscribers
i ordered myself a 2020 R6 waiting for them to drop one off to the dealer since the virus are making them harder to get upgrading from my R3 but keeping the R3 R1 will be another 10 years lol
You’re going to love the new 2020 R6! It’s a beast!🔥🙌🏻👊
Hell ya dude. Got my 2020 mt09 like 3 months ago and I’m in love with it
Congrats! That bike looks super fun !!!
Do the R1 upgrade after 3 years, but take your R6 to the track for at least 2 of those years. You'll be fine with an R1 by then
You have good point Chase ! I am definitely taking my bike to track one day !☝️😎
Motonosity makes best quality videos than any other biker vlogs period!
😂... C'mon 'Chaos Causes' is Up there as well
@@ParadiseBiker true, but he doesn't milk videos sometimes though.
Fortnine is the best
650ib is better at least he rides the bike and races
Bring it in dyno test 🔥🔥🔥🔥🏁
Dude! Where's the Grom, the suspense is killing us 😭😂
Your soo right! Last I saw they were waiting on parts n shipping is legit a year 😢
I’ve asked before, he doesn’t answer 🤷♂️
$600 and it's a half tune? Come on brah. This is aint nothin but a commercial. I'll save my money and wait for the ECU flash.
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Can someone help me out to find that background music? Thanks
Damn it every video I watch of your R1 I go on cycle trader and look for one my wife's gunna freak out next spring 🤫
20R1 here and I got the austin racing GP1RR de-cat exhaust system its beefy with muscle noise and that CP4 with it sounds like lions fighting till death. Last week I had the power commander V believe that's the 5 but had that installed and mapped I noticed instantly how fast the response is now i can be in 3rd gear and still it wants to lift away. I'm in love with the new performance on it smooth 🌩 fast sounds like no other but what else should I do with the bike performance wise
Nice mods, except for the cloth media air filter. More dirt and air gets through at first, then once they clog up a bit and start to filter well, they have less air flow than paper. Unless you're at the track and actually racing at WFO, I would use the well made OEM filter and maybe cut off or modify the plastic cone if you're l,ooking for more peak rpm flow. The cone might be there to stabilize the crossplane's strong air pulses using the venturi effect and smooth out the airflow at part throttle - which is most of the time on a street R1. Easy enough to switch back and forth to test the air filter mods. The clean, racy looking pipe sounded just right and no badges or gaudy stickers - a big plus.
Any chance you could swap the ecu for a 2019, I don't think yamaha made huge changes to the bike it might work love your bikes dawg
It's not possible. However, there is another option and that is YART Race Ecu and costs around 2000$ and probably disables the lights on the bike. Since it's for race bikes.
Burbles and backfires are essential to my mind parts being happy tbh. My Supermagna caresses my mind with them :D
whats wrong with the power delivery of the 20 R1? is it notchy?
Good ole Timthetatman vibes from the music but man does that thing sound and look sweet!!
I thought someone was watching Tim in the background at first 😂
I hate how many fairing fasteners the 2020 R1 has, hard to put back together.
Hence why you'll never see a 'short' canister exhaust on the WSBK , BSB Yamahas....the cross planes need that extra length...I mean JHChristmas isn't 180 HP enough..want to go really really frighteningly quick, change the sprockets....-1 front +4 rear. Once you start flocking around w/ the ECU, your warranty is voided...The dealers are fed up w/ owners corrupting their ECUs..I know.....wasting their time and money doing good faith ECU recovery, or replacement. Which is also not only costly, but time consuming labor wise as a new ECU must go thru several processes adaptation, zeroing out TPS...sometimes this needs to be done more than once...cause your dealing with a NEW ECU...Change the sprockets, gear the bike down, add a K&N, air filter of choice, Akrapovic full system...plenty of HP....leave your filter DRY if filtration oil required..
Fresh cut AND fresh exhaust!!!! I wonder why they can't unlock the ECU to our bikes! Is there anywhere we can this information and updates??? Great content man!! I actually went with the Power Commander V. I'm not sure what you had installed is very different from what PCV.
They update the firmware to the ecu data so the tuners have not been able to completely unlock it yet.
@@selectrideorrace6344 Oh!!!! I see now... Ugh!! If I can only yank an ECU from a 2019 R1 and place it on this one so I can custom-tune the damn thing that would be great!!!
The micro controller is not accessible at this time.
Expect all future ECUs to behave in a similar fashion.
The days of the easily cracked ECU are over.
the crossplane sounds really awesome. a
incomparable uniq sound
I think the main issue with Yamaha's are the damn stators. I don't know why it seems yamahas have more issues than others. Yamaha always stator issues but no issues with stator on kawi, suzuki, honda...I had an R1 loved it but the stator issues I got tired of throwing $$$ at.
You go to the bikeshop and fix it yourself , dude you are great ! True bike lover .
Probably a bit late to the party here - aren’t the lower injectors accessible when you remove the air box? 🤔
Wooling racing would have been more simple
Damn that’s a lot of plugs holy hell. Good work brotha now u need a Louie moto seat
This doesn't make sense; unless the Yamaha ECU has a variable in it that will make periodic adjustments depending on other elements of the bike to determine how best to map the fuel delivery (which is HIGHLY unlikely), there should not be any learning curve to the system. The Bike doesn't need to ride 100 miles to determine how to deliver the fueling, the programming is instant.
I would have waited for the ECU to be cracked. Under 6k and under 40% throttle is most normal riding on a sports bike. Stock bikes especially Yamahas run lean as shit at maintenance throttle and down low for emissions, this does nada to help that. Of course you still have throttle limitations, stock ignition, fan temps, etc, that the ECU flash would take care of...it’s half of a band aid fix for tuning. But I do like seeing other options, and seeing a fuel controller that’s plug n play is nice.
Rapid bike = TRASH.
I'm so glad I'm in the Honda community where we actually have direct connections to HRC to get proper ecu maps, direct for racing.
What are the options for US spec 2021 cbr1000rrr? Comes 188hp vs 215hp outside US.
@@enigma5192 I know of one American who's already cracked it, and honda has boasted an increase on their ecu encryption. Ask RC45 on 1000rr(dot) net.
you kindda sounded like you spent soo much money on that controller that you kindda wanted it to work. was the controller even worth it? or would you just wait for the ECU to get flashed and custom maps put on?
I thought you were called Moto nazi for a second lol
do u still need that tuner if your bike gonna Flashed
I'm a bit confused. What's the difference between this and the ECU flash?
Ok I’m a 50 something never drove a bike but always wanted to know what it is to fly with the wings of eagle with out ever leaving the ground . I get the impression that that is what a sports or super bike does for you….. just one of many
Has anyone else tried this kit yet?
backfire has nothing to do with lean!
It’s working for r1 2015+?
Is the R1 too powerful for a first bike or?
PCv does 4 injectors ..Rapidb 4 injectors ...someone know if Bazzaz does 8 ?
Great video, pls do more like this. Are u near Brent Tuning? Rapid bike should do an option to control the bottom 4 injectors (ie de-pin with a high quality splice and crimp) + with a narrowband O2 signal simulator for the closed loop area
the bike would run normal if the cat was still on right? alternate sollution, just change the muffler instead of doing a cat delete and run stock mapping
EJR performance tuned a yellow r1 called rocket taxi
Can i be part of your next giveaway i ve just had an accident and my bike is trash i was working 3 years to buy it and now lost it cause one guy did not see me in the mirror😑
More cars arriving with ECU locked. Emissions people looking at motorcycles
I hope the 2020 ECU FLASH comes out soon!!! Low key sad for you 2020 R1 owners.
Brent you still haven’t put the sticker on your exhaust!!!!!!! Smh 🤦♂️
I said I wasn’t going to...
@@motonosity Ah my bad bro still..... it would look good with it on but fair enough 😂
@@Way-M just goin stealth 😉
Why not just use Power Commander? They have one available for 2020 model
Crossplane... Umm umm
Doing this as I type. What if your wot under 6k or do both parameters matter?
Get you a fast bike. Called the zx1400r se👍👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍
Literally just started looking into RapidBike before this video came out. I want to ECU flash the R3, I wanted to go with Norton Motorsports, but they can’t seem to ECU Flash a 2020 with ABS. I hate piggy-back systems.
2wheeldynoworks just had a video of them tuning one. They used a gytr ecu. I don’t know what that would cost. But it’s an option! Bike looks beautiful!
First of all thanks for the information and review. I have a 2016 Yamaha R1 and I have had the ECU Flashed but there still seems to be issues with flat spots around 5500 rpm. Tuner could never resolve this issue. Running a Two Brothers S1R Exhaust with the Cat removed. Do you believe that this product could resolve this issue? No real issues with performance above this rpm.
When TH-cam is turned off by the IRS, you should be a mechanic.
So on my ninja 400 I have a slip on, a DNA air filter, and a power commander v.so do i need to ecu flash or is that what the power commander v doee
So can they access all the injectors on a 2015 r1 ? Same model just the first year they came out
I from indonesia 🙏🇮🇩
Here early AF🤟🏼🔥 NOTI GANG
Bro make a video showing what you are using to make your bike shiny thanks
The wobbling drill chuck was driving nuts, but still a good video thanks guy
Dang they still haven’t gotten into that ECU?! That’s a bummer! I plan on getting my 19 flashed this winter. I have a filter coming tomorrow so pretty cool ya happened to show that process
Cool video! You should have dyno'd it before and after?...The Dynojet Power commander 5 for the 2020 R1 is similar to the Rapidbike tuner only controlling the top injectors but since that initially came out, Dynojet has now came out with a Secondary Fuel Module to control the lower set of injectors so all the injectors can now be tuned. Just food for thought, tho im patiently waiting for FTECU to come out with their flash since they claimed to have unlocked most of the ecu and just fine tuning a few other things so they can release it...fingers crossed who knows as I have a 2020 R1M with a 2bros slipon and cat delete pipe and need something soon🤙
Did you found any solution mate?
so what your saying is dont buy a 2020 model r1..
I've owned many bikes, but the R1 has been my very favorite! Not even close!
@@ForeverCello R1 2020 runs very poor because it's lean even with stock exhaust.
great job man! u F****** pro and all ur videos are so interesting !
keep doin this!
ps : u reposted my post today on insta ! PEACE MAN !
Euro 6 coming up for bikes. Cars already Euro 6
Does the Rapidbike Tuner cause any dash lights to come on?
FTECU is supposed to release their ECU flash in November. Are you going to take off the Rapidbike tuner when the ECU flash comes out?
Why would I? It can still auto tune an ecu flashed map
The one thing i really dont like about Yamaha sports bikes they make it super hard to get to everything the new 636 makes it super easy to work on and take things apart
The backfire need a smog block plate to install bro ...the ICU unit need to replace coz U.S region they hv block all the bypass try to get the Euro version
Mine still backfires like crazy with the block off mod
why using the rapid bike evo? why not the rapid bike racing?
Too much trouble to install. My R1 is powerful enough. Cannot use what it offers now even on track.
You don't understand Scott. This is not about the power, it's about better AFR. When you remove the cat., you are risking engine failure. There are many things that can go wrong on a natural aspirated engine that runs lean. And this new R1 is lean even with the stock exhaust. If you don't trust me, do the research and then dyno your bike.
Anyone else hear TimTheTatmans outro music or was that just me? 😅
The thing I hate about it is that it's not in my garage lol
When you first plugged it in the first few miles it looked like VTEC was kicking in 😂
You need to get in touch with 2 Wheel Dynoworks in Kirkland, Washington. They got into tuning the 2020 R1 WITHOUT a piggy back. They tuned my FZ-10. They do a lot of Yamaha tuning. Check them out. Very professional and great customer service!
I don’t believe you lol
@@motonosity 😂
Check their Facebook page, email em or give em a call! It's not up on their website yet. But they are working on it! 😎
Yup. More expensive pc5 for the new R1
I mean i got no prob woth back fires cuz i love em
U should race 650ib
I installed a power commander and had it tuned after i installed my 3/4 AR exhaust, it still pops a bit when letting the throttle down but sounds amazing
Does your bike get hot in slow or stop an go traffic??
Does anyone know of DNA filters?
major issue is not putting sc project sticker on your can
Watching from Philippines bro.
I like the fact that the main beams of the r1 seem like an afterthought. It feels like a bolt on part that is required to make a racing machine "road legal"
Nice hair cut bro.👌🏻 Take care, ride safe and keep rocking.❤️
Men i love your R1 so much, want to more video on it
You’re not putting the sc project sticker on the exhaust?
what do you think of aprilia rsv4?
Why are you doing yourself bro?
Why you dony ever wheelie a bike? Id love to see
Blacked out r1 will be super cool looking
So is flashing your ecu really all you need to do? I wanna cut my cat, but I hear so many people saying you need a power commander, need a proper map or tune, and then some say ecu flashes are fine. Idk🤦🏼♂️
You gotta admit that the bike is already pretty nutty as stock. Of course everyone wants upgrades because stock is gross but it might be better to keep it stock until the ECU tune comes out and then do the total overhaul all at once with the new tune.
ecu flash is all you need. A power commander is cool if you plan on dyno tuning the bike otherwise it’s fairly useless as your bike is going to run different than the day it was tuned anyways. For example if you tune it on a 70 degree day it’s going to run different on colder or hotter days unless you have a auto tune and a computer at home to constantly tune your bike everyday lol
I just got the same bike. Is the rapid tune still working ok? I hope this ecu is cracked soon.
I can’t speak for his experience. But I had rapid bike on my 2018 R6. I also got mine from motivation and had an SC project crt. Exact setup. It worked for a year and died. It stranded me 3 times before dying completely. It’s very invasive and once it goes, your bike will not run. The times it went out my bike stopped generating power and started lugging before dying completely mid ride. Had to grab the clutch to keep rolling. I pulled it out and flashed my ECU had no problems since. Maybe it will buy you enough time until someone cracks the ECU, but that’s up to you if it’s worth the price.
@@RiderZer0 thanks for the info.
BT Moto cracked the ecu and I flashed mine. It’s a night and day difference. I’m glad I waited.
Remember motomumble? That sounds like ages ago
watchu mean “expecstations”
Could you put a 2019 ECU on it?
shove it alll in!!!
I noticed you have a lead-acid battery in your R1. Would have thought you had already upgraded to Li-Ion.
Probably the cheapest weight savings upgrade you can do. I remember a Motonosity video where the goal was to shave as much weight from a particular bike and the battery swap gave by far the biggest bang for your buck.
Normally you wouldn't upgrade the exhaust on an R1 unless you're taking it to the track.
Nothing, I feel like an idiot commenting on TH-cam Videos sometimes, LOL
are you feeling more power in the top end as well ? (not mid range)
Until the throttle tables can be edited in the ECU the power will never be able to altered upward.
Not possible on a throttle by wire motorcycle without going into the ECU