No matter your taste, you have to give Pavarotti credit for becoming an international pop culture figure. I mean you don't have to know Opera or any Classical music...to still know who Pavarotti was and what he sounded like. Most of us can even distinguish his voice from the other famous male tenors...which says something. Just brilliant.
Yes, you absolutely know when it's Pavarotti singing and I can't say that about too many tenors, not that I don't think they're impressive but a lot of tenors have a similar sound and I probably wouldn't be able to point out who was who. I could however point out Pavarotti very easily by both his unique beautiful voice and by his eyebrows lol. There will never be another like Luciano
And his commanding stage presence, there was something very special about Pavarotti and it wasn't just his voice. He seemed to have the whole package, it's great if you have natural raw talent but you also need that certain star quality and I strongly feel Luciano had it in spades
He wasn't called "EL MAESTRO" for nothing. If he isn't the greatest opera male tenor of all time, then I don't know anything. We may never hear a voice like his ever again but at least while he was alive, we had some SERIOUS magic being made. Placido Domingo is my personal favorite tenor but I know quite well the power, passion and near perfection that is Luciano Pavarotti. RIP El Maestro.
Don´t forget Jussi Björling, who Pavarotti always referred to when he was studying a new piece to sing - "how would Jussi Björling have approached this", he said.
He was also known by the doormen at ROH as 'fat Lucy.' They loved him although he was the only opera singer that they had to open both sides of the stage door for.
Pavarotti was a master at his singing voice his vibrato was a little fast for me and his high notes were a little sharp at some points when he holds out his notes he had such a wide range little sharp fast vibrato but all the way around he had his headvoice and placemnt mastered had great control in his voice
In Australia decades ago, there was an arts show on TV every sunday and in amongst the intro snippets, they always played the final crescendo to this song and it always gave me goosebumps... 😄
My eyes opened to his greatness when I saw The Three tenors. All obviously fantastic operatic voices but it really showed how Luciano Pavarotti shined. To me there was no comparison he was the best ❣️
I liked those performances too --- and Pavarotti was many times standing slightly behind the others as they performed - with a smile on his face that said to me "When you get done, I'll show you how it SHOULD be done". We have all been blessed with Pavarotti, Yo Yo Ma and Itzhak Perelman in the same time period.
Pavarotti part 2..🙂 My husband never got into opera until we went to see one of the traveling Tran Siberian Orchastras Christmas concerts. We heard a lady singing and she happened to be standing in the isle next to my husband. It was a famous opera song that I never caught the name of. But when she hit that high note live right next to him he thought it was so cool. He often talks about it in conversation with other people. I also felt something wet on my cheek and it was snow. They made it snow. We don't get music like that where we live too often but it's something we appreciate when we do get it. Sometimes it takes a cool experience to appreciate. Thank you for this analysis. 👍🙂👍
Pavarotti, a great tenor, and Caballe, IMHO the greatest soprano of all, were both fired from The Lyric Opera here in Chicago. I saw Pavarotti opposite Sutherland in Lucia. Part of Caballe's Maria Stuarda from here is online at TH-cam.
Phil --> for many years and since his album "King Of The High Cs" came out --- I immediately noted that he never had to slide to that C5 ... he just nailed it. Other operatic singers have to feel their way up to that note as if they weren't sure they could find it. I wonder how you could have missed this singular astounding ability of his. PS: if you really want a thrill, find recordings/videos where Luciano was singing with his father - who had a voice not to be sneered at either!
Sliding to the C5 can increase tension, hitting it straight is easier technique wise as you can maintain your vocal cord configuration without having to change as you slide. It's just a question of hitting the pitch accurately.
@@wingsofpegasus when time permits ...... Ceciiia Bartoli , or Sylvia Frigato, sing SI DOLCE IL TORMENTO < > always great to see and hear your fine work
on the video of Sylvia Frigato , SI DOLCE IL TORMENTO , be sure to note the musician seated middle playing the VERY early version of the Jr, Brown, Double Git-Steel guitar
Like all great singers it's not just a measurable skill which adheres them to an audience it's an unmeasurable connection to the audience which Pavarotti has in spades, there may be others who appeal to the higher brow Opera audience, but Pavarotti just captured peoples imagination. it was brilliance not luck
Very fine analysis. The great Luciano was a force of nature. Besides his masterly singing talent he had such a warm and amiable voice, with a "next-door" familiarity. That made him a well-known iconic figure to all kind of public. And his 1990 "Nessun Dorma" from Puccini's Turandot became the one and only opera aria that topped the pop charts all over the world.
I have heard many well known and even "famous" male Opera singers try their voice with this song. In my personal opinion and my operatically untrained ears, some did a good job, some did a great job, and some just should not have ever even tried. There are other channels where several male opera singers are compared singing "nesum dorma" and it is very interesting to hear just how different the singers' voices sound when you can hear them just a few seconds apart and still have the sounds of the previous singer still resonating in your mind. I know that a lot of people love Andrea Bocelli. I am sorry that he is blind but has overcome his blindness by becoming a popular Opera singer. But....when I heard his version of this great song, I felt and saw absolutely no emotion from him; it was empty of any feelings, he was hitting all the notes but they were hollow and dry. Not so with Pavarotti. You can see and hear him put his whole soul into that song. I have seen him where it looks like he is almost going to cry after hitting that last note. Incredible...!! Pavarotti was and still is the proverbial 'diamond'; at the top, and unique in the classic definition of 'unique'...one of a kind. And as Theresa Howard, below, has already mentioned, even if you are just listening, such as with the great "Three Tenors", Pavarotti's unique voice is immediately recognizable. Thanks Fil, for this part #2.
@@georgeedward1226 I think you are slicing that nuance rather thin. An 'aria' is the name that the Italians gave a 'song', or part of a 'song', that is sung as a solo in an opera. In a non-operatic musical, when the character sings a song by themselves, it is generally called a "solo". It could as easily be called an aria, but that term has historically come to be associated with the Opera.
That's true but I worked in the opera business for 5 years and dealt personally with a lot of the top artists, aministrators, music critics and managers including Mr. Pavarotti and would not be taken seriously if I referred to an aria as a song. You might not be corrected outright but you would get an eye roll.
@@georgeedward1226 I certainly understand, and agree. In whatever business you are involved with, you have to learn the 'language' and the proper jargon to use if you want to be accepted and respected. If I was talking with people who were involved with Ballet and said something like: "She sure is good when she spins around like that", they would also probably look at me with those same eye rolls...and perhaps even a sneer: " Why, this unsophisticated and un-cultured man doesn't know the term 'pirouette'..!"
The 'Big Vincero' is one of the big 'tells' for tenors. Despite Nessum Dorma being sort of theme song through his career, he did not perform the actual opera - Turandot. Now as hard as his famous Mes Amis at the Met in his first NYC performance where he hit 9 high C's and earned the longest standing ovation ever. The Daughter of the Regiment was an opera he performed often. He had an amazing 'sweet' tone to his voice he kept well into his later years despite losing his easy high C's.
My voice coach, who had a phD in voice and a masters in linguistics, explained tongue position this way: The shape the sound waves pass through is what determines the vowel. A small-ish round shape gives you an o or u, while a wide flat shape gives you an ee. To hit a nice full note at high pitch, you can't make a wide flat shape with your mouth, because you need that jaw wide open. So you have to contort your tongue to create that shape without closing off the back of the throat. It's hard, takes a lot of practice, and will be different for each person because the roof of the mouth isn't exactly the same for everyone.
Right on with all the tongue talk...ha! But seriously it is so true, my mouth is incredibly small and my tongue is comparatively big for my mouth. Hey you have to work with what nature gave you💯‼️
Now this is my territory, having played for so many singers (rehearsals, lessons, operatic baritone husband) over decades. Nice to see a video with Pavarotti doing Nussun Dorma - great choice for an aria. Not my favorite tenor but professionally and technically wonderful for years and years. At this stage in his life and career, he could do anything he wanted - stand however he wanted, do whatever with his face, place his tongue in a way that felt right for him, etc. However, for singers who are in training and just starting out, it’s good to know (from teachers who are very good) what the preferred method is (for instance, tongue position depending on the vowel, etc). Then, after years of experience and some success, see what works best for you. Thanks for this video.
Feeling very lucky running onto Part 1 and Part 2 at the same time. I enjoyed your analyses very much. I used to play Nessun Dorma, along with other Puccini arias, while caring for my Great Grandson a few years ago, he just turned 5. He loved Nessun Dorma the most! Lately, we have been listening to Queen! He really likes the Play the Game official video where Freddie appears to jump up on Rogers drums. He thought that was the funniest thing. I've been taking him back and forth to pre-school recently, and we listen to Queen. When Play the Game comes on, as that part of the song comes starts, he just looks at me and smiles! Watched your analyses on Live Aid tonight, too. We have spent the entire evening together. Thanks!!
Pavarotti was just on another damn level. That thing about how relaxed he looked is something I've always noticed. He just made it look so damn easy, but without losing that expressiveness. The contrast is especially pronounced when you see him in the Three Tenors next to Carreras and Domingo (both also brilliant, but differently so), who always looked like they were seconds away from taking flight. Meanwhile, from the neck down, Pav looks for all the world like he's chairing a town meeting. It's all in his face.
Enjoying your wonderful treatment of many talented people. Your smile of appreciation for the work is why I subscribed and tune in. Thanks for the insights you share.
I love what you said about the tongue and doing things in the way that it's most natural for you... I am a singer and I had tons of teachers contradicting themselves when it comes about technic... And I feel that it's missing the forest for the tree when people tries to study "proper technic"... At the end of the day the most important thing is feeling vocally healthy when you finish singing and finding identity and expression of what you are doing! Great video... Thanks! I've always been curious of what pavarotti's sound looks like!!! 🙏😊
My entire thinking about singing has changed from these videos. I admit I knew nothing about singing before watching . I feel like a whole new world has opened up for me to enjoy. Thank you Fil.
Brava Fil !!!! I had a tenor here at LA Opera explain certain things in more detail. I think he liked your analysis too ! Great job love ! Getting singers to subscribe one voice at a time🤘🏿🤘🏿❤️❤️
You never talked about rolling your Rs 😁 Now that's a talent all on it's own. Pavarotti also had that. Thanks for being so thorough with this analysis. Keep on rocking Fil 🤘❤️
He was Italian. That's just a normal part of their language. Honestly, it's extremely easy to do if you start doing it when you're a child. That said, when singing in Italian, Latin, French, etc...a rolled r is really just a soft d sound. For example, if you want to sing "Ave Maria" and don't know how to do the rolled r, you just say "Ave Madia" but soften the d. Typically, when singing, one doesn't do a lengthy rolled r, so that trick will do the job.
Fil, I enjoyed your commentary on this! I have watched this version of Nessun Dorma many many times. Your description of Pavarotti's voice is a great analysis. The crescendo level and the letting go of the last note is greatly explained. The relaxation technique is exquisitely described including Pavarotti's unique arched tongue placement! 🙂❤️
I absolutely loved this analysis, Fil. Nessun Dorma is one of my favorite Pavarotti songs. My mom’s all time favorite. Can you take a look at Jose Cura’s version or his singing with Sarah Brightman? His voice is powerful. But I’d like to hear what you have to say about his voice ❤
In an interview, he was once asked what one piece of advice would he give singers. He said, “ I cant begin to tell them how high the back of the tongue must be.” This is the same position I was trained in. A flat tongue, or ( god forbid) sticking out...will never produce a ringing resonant sound.
I have just noticed that when I sing in my operatic voice, I do the very same thing with my tongue. I don't do that with my lower pop voice. Interesting! Thanks for the great video!
Thanks Fil! Super cool analysis of one of the greatest singers of our lifetime. As a trained singer, I learned some new things about him from your unique analysis. I never noticed his tuning because his beautiful unique metallic tone and vibrato and slide was out of this world. His tongue position was always an anomaly that confounded most of us. Yet it worked. And his stillness and relaxed face and jaw in his high notes was unparalleled. You can see that he was totally in flow as a resonant container for the optimal sound. He became the arias he performed and he was a consummate interpreter of the music. Thanks for featuring him!
I'm not sure if you still check back on comments for your older videos, but I wanted to share a text message I received from my 78 year old mother (a teacher and trained singer) after sharing the Pavarotti and Julie Andrews videos with her. "..with all that analysis by Fil, it's easier to actually appreciate what's being achieved vocally and aurally, isn't it? Thanks for putting me on to his technical explorations and analysis of the operatic sounds, I have been blessed by his presentation, information, and commentaries". Keep up the great content, I also share them with my daughter. She now knoes what to listen for and isn't discouraged by hearing the pitch corrected 'live / bedroom vocalists' and wonder why her voice isnt "perfect" like them.
What an absolutely amazing voice Pavarotti had. I’m into mainly rock and classic rock songs but there are only two classical songs of his I enjoy, one of which is this one I tried this at a karaoke once and it is extremely difficult to sing and it’s difficult for a baritone to sing. A request I like to see you analyse Roy Orbisons “I drove all night” please and keep up the good work Rock on 🤘🏻
A perfect voice, as clear as a bell. Man he could really sing. Despite liking all music, I am so glad, my Father opened my mind up to both classical and opera, as a small child. Your as brilliant as always Fin.
Anatomically the arched tongue is in fact a relaxed tongue. That's how it is shaped when you have your mouth closed and don't do anything with it. Any other shape of the tongue is produced by using the muscles in it. So, as you also pointed out, he's just sooooo relaxed, even the tongue shows.
David Phelps did nessum dorma too. It was less formal polish but so much more move. Please take a look at David Phelps body of work. He was a Christian singer, but he did Christmas (O Holy Night is singing) , patriotic music and things he wrote . He also did I Have Nothing (Whitney Houston cover
Thank you, for the tasteful analysis of this and prev Pavarotti. I feel unholy when looking at the purity... But, happily, the quality by far compensates!
If you listen to his masterclass (th-cam.com/video/I2LUqOHA8hY/w-d-xo.html), he seems to know _exactly_ what he is doing. Whatever you see/hear, he may have intended.
Thank you for this 2 part analysis. I used to play vinyl records of Luciano so loud when I was home alone. I had the pleasure of seeing him once when he came to Philadelphia. What a night! The man was simply magnificent. I get goosebumps listening to him.
I am the great fan of italian singer MARINA FIORDALISO. She is the great singer and personality. She has 4-5 different voices. You could see ORAMAI song (duration 3:34 - Sanremo festival `83) and some others.
😮 I appreciate all your videos. I've loved opera for a long time, so it's fascinating to see it analysed for the first time. I'll look out for a soprano opera singer next.
I enjoy your analysis and comments in each your videos....I have learned so much. It is a topic of which I knew practically nothing. I'd like to suggest that you do an analysis on Tim Foust's version of "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow/Stay".
He has such a wonderful voice , I really enjoyed him Pavarotti and friends. He sang with anyone and respected all talent. Have you ever done an an analysis on a-ha Take Me On. Would be interested because of the range in his voice.
I enjoyed listening to parts 1 and 2 of your analysis of Luciano Pavarotti. He was, to me, one of the best male opera singers of all time. He was truly gifted with an incredible voice indeed. May he RIP! ❤
I was recently watching Mario Lanza, an old favourite of mine and hoping that you would someday do a comparison, and then I came across this one of Pavorotti. Mario, in my opinion had the richest voice of all the tenors ever and because of this was able to add much more emotion than such as Pavorotti, who was rather monotone in comparison. Mario also had the ability to sing popular songs with one of the sweetest voices ever. I understand that you are not really comparing the attributes of one singer with another but in my opinion tone and tonal variations is what sets the greatest apart from those with mainly just technical ability.
I forgot to mention yesterday on your comments on the livestream about reactors. You do have a point about the phonies but over here there is a small population of people who have not heard a lot of rock because they are so into their own culture. Back in the 50s kids were told not to listen to rock n roll because it was not of their culture or devil music and later on the other kids were told not to the same thing so they missed out on so much good music. I do think some of the reactors are genuine. Everyone however should be exposed to opera and classical music. Have a nice day!😉
At some point you will need to take a look at the vocals of a woman who was instrumental in giving Pavarotti legitimacy early in his international career, La Stupenda herself.
Interesting comments about the tongue. I have a friend that is an opera singer who is American. I'd like to ask her about her tongue. She speaks American, French, German and Italian but also Russian. I've heard that Russian has the largest tonal range of any language and so it is easiest for Russians to learn other languages.
This was a great analysis video. Luciano Pavarotti is definitely in a class by himself, when it comes to singers. May he rest in peace. Cheers, Fil! ✌️
I have never been a fan of Pavarotti but my father was and we had discussions about it. I used to really admire Jose Carreras and his version is better! So try analysing his his version. If not try looking at his version of core 'ngrato which is absolutely wonderful. My father always said about Pavarotti that it was not the vibration but the gap between the vibration that made him good. Hewas never able to explain what he mean but he did have a very good ear
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@@zenawarrior7442 I like it when it's really dark sometimes during the day and you have the windows open a bit and it rains all day and you can hear it and the cats love it. It lulls them to sleep. If you have no place to go and you can stay in and just relax and watch a couple movies, it's great. Had a long day myself. Long practice. Got a busy Thurs. and Fri., then completely taking the weekend off. I can't wait. When I have time for myself, I usually get some recording done, which I love. Recording is alot of hard work, but the payoff when you get something sounding exactly like you want it to, is the best. When you hear through the monitors the same thing that you heard inside your head, it's a high like I can't explain. So, what were you up to today ? Any mischief ?👻...🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹
@@scottsteel4230 Oh yes those dark stormy days with the fresh smell of 🌧...very relaxing if you can stay home, just watch movies, windows open. Being 104 here today that sounds nice haha. Your recording sounds very rewarding...I think I can understand the high a little. I started work at 6, busy day, saw Mom. It was hard tho as she wouldn't let me leave so been down a bit since then, so no mischief 😉👻(I love your little ghostie)💞. Just watching 48 hrs, Guys Grocery Games...but you perked me up let me say as so nice to message 😘💛💫💛💫🌙⚘⚘💗💗💗I love your emojis too🥰
@@scottsteel4230 PS Sorry I just missed your comment on the live yesterday!! That was sweet.💜 They move so fast, if you type you lose responses 😁🙄I'll have to watch closer next time 💙🙂🔍🔎🔍🔎
Hi Fil, A couple of things to disagree with in this video. 1. At 2.30 the difference between the performances. In both instances Pavarotti has a low larynx. The difference one to the other is that he is raising the soft palette and making space in his mouth to make a softer, more ghostly sound. It's not going into falsetto, it's just making more space, BUT the key thing is that all the vocal apparatus is kept in the same place. It's not taking the voice out of gear or putting it somewhere else, because great technique works to keep tension and stress from the voice all the way through. 2. NOT everybody is different! Luciano Pavarotti is singing with developed voice operatic technique in the same way that singers did in the early 1900s. Yes his tongue is arched at the back when he goes up, BUT you will see that his jaw moves forward at the same time. Thus the tongue is out of the way to allow the most open sound possible and in turn, this means that he is able to get the most clear sound out of every bit of his breath which means longer notes.
I don't say at any point Pavarotti sings any note in falsetto, quite the opposite! I know the same methods have been used for many years to train classical singers, but everyone definitely is different even if teaching methods aren't. It's why we can tell the difference between Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli for example.
Yep Opera is a different fish. and of course isn't just singing, they act roles at the same time. I started my experiment a couple years ago - Anna Netrebko in LaTraviatta (hot, to be simple ) Elena Garanca in Carmen and both in a version of the Ann Boleyn story. about 15 years ago now, top quality video and audio. blue ray has the necessary translations.
Here are Fil's previous analysis on Luciano Pavarotti and others to enjoy! What can we learn from SEEING one of the BEST VOICES OF ALL TIME? (Part 1) th-cam.com/video/41kcdoiH8MY/w-d-xo.html British guitarist analyses Luciano Pavarotti and James Brown live in 1998! th-cam.com/video/dyzVRB9lCeE/w-d-xo.html Are they auto tuning GREAT singers? YES AND WE CAN SEE IT! Pavarotti and Dimash th-cam.com/video/OBk7BnIA12c/w-d-xo.html
Should listen to gundula janowitz singing Richard Wagner. Or Elisabeth swartzkopf. They were absolutely amazing. And for intonation listen to Dietricht Fischer-dieskau
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No matter your taste, you have to give Pavarotti credit for becoming an international pop culture figure. I mean you don't have to know Opera or any Classical music...to still know who Pavarotti was and what he sounded like. Most of us can even distinguish his voice from the other famous male tenors...which says something. Just brilliant.
Yes, you absolutely know when it's Pavarotti singing and I can't say that about too many tenors, not that I don't think they're impressive but a lot of tenors have a similar sound and I probably wouldn't be able to point out who was who. I could however point out Pavarotti very easily by both his unique beautiful voice and by his eyebrows lol. There will never be another like Luciano
Pavarott had the ability to draw you into his performance regardless of the language by the sheer delivery of his vocals.
And his commanding stage presence, there was something very special about Pavarotti and it wasn't just his voice. He seemed to have the whole package, it's great if you have natural raw talent but you also need that certain star quality and I strongly feel Luciano had it in spades
He wasn't called "EL MAESTRO" for nothing. If he isn't the greatest opera male tenor of all time, then I don't know anything. We may never hear a voice like his ever again but at least while he was alive, we had some SERIOUS magic being made. Placido Domingo is my personal favorite tenor but I know quite well the power, passion and near perfection that is Luciano Pavarotti. RIP El Maestro.
Don´t forget Jussi Björling, who Pavarotti always referred to when he was studying a new piece to sing - "how would Jussi Björling have approached this", he said.
He was also known by the doormen at ROH as 'fat Lucy.' They loved him although he was the only opera singer that they had to open both sides of the stage door for.
@@patrickgallagher3513 Well, yes, it's not over until fat Lucy sings
Agree. Domingo is my favorite tenor too.
Vibrato was really fast but when he goes sharp you cannot tell it. Complete control! Would like to hear one on Caruso too!
Yes I second Caruso, my most favourite song is Luciano's version of Caruso. Yet to see anyone do it better and with that level of raw emotion
I had the joy of seeing Pavarotti in Sydney Australia, magical!
Pavarotti was a master at his singing voice his vibrato was a little fast for me and his high notes were a little sharp at some points when he holds out his notes he had such a wide range little sharp fast vibrato but all the way around he had his headvoice and placemnt mastered had great control in his voice
His voice is from the heavens.
In Australia decades ago, there was an arts show on TV every sunday and in amongst the intro snippets, they always played the final crescendo to this song and it always gave me goosebumps... 😄
My eyes opened to his greatness when I saw The Three tenors. All obviously fantastic operatic voices but it really showed how Luciano Pavarotti shined. To me there was no comparison he was the best ❣️
I liked those performances too --- and Pavarotti was many times standing slightly behind the others as they performed - with a smile on his face that said to me "When you get done, I'll show you how it SHOULD be done". We have all been blessed with Pavarotti, Yo Yo Ma and Itzhak Perelman in the same time period.
I'm so thankful that I got to see the Three Tenors in concert before Pavarotti passed away. It was a thrilling experience!
Legend has it that in Pavarotti's village, everybody including Luciano, believed that his father had an even better voice. Hard to imagine!
Pavarotti part 2..🙂 My husband never got into opera until we went to see one of the traveling Tran Siberian Orchastras Christmas concerts. We heard a lady singing and she happened to be standing in the isle next to my husband. It was a famous opera song that I never caught the name of. But when she hit that high note live right next to him he thought it was so cool. He often talks about it in conversation with other people. I also felt something wet on my cheek and it was snow. They made it snow. We don't get music like that where we live too often but it's something we appreciate when we do get it. Sometimes it takes a cool experience to appreciate. Thank you for this analysis. 👍🙂👍
This is the band we saw with the surprise snowfall on my face. Couldn't find video of the woman singing .th-cam.com/video/WZqGpNkIv9k/w-d-xo.html
This is my favorite aria from Turandot!
A big range!
His voice is incredible. Thank you for the video
saw Pavoratti in Miami.. special
Pavarotti, a great tenor, and Caballe, IMHO the greatest soprano of all, were both fired from The Lyric Opera here in Chicago. I saw Pavarotti opposite Sutherland in Lucia. Part of Caballe's Maria Stuarda from here is online at TH-cam.
The crescendo of this song is so unbelievably beautiful, it always brings tears to my eyes. Thank you for this lovely analysis.
Awesome thanks Shalom
He wad unique... U can like or not the opera but u cannot see he was a great and unique
It says a lot when a singer can take a high brow genre of music like opera and make it popular.
Nessun Dorma rocks my world: incomparable.
Last time I viewed your show I forgot to ention i have an album on caruso
That ending gives me the chills!
Phil --> for many years and since his album "King Of The High Cs" came out --- I immediately noted that he never had to slide to that C5 ... he just nailed it. Other operatic singers have to feel their way up to that note as if they weren't sure they could find it. I wonder how you could have missed this singular astounding ability of his.
PS: if you really want a thrill, find recordings/videos where Luciano was singing with his father - who had a voice not to be sneered at either!
Sliding to the C5 can increase tension, hitting it straight is easier technique wise as you can maintain your vocal cord configuration without having to change as you slide. It's just a question of hitting the pitch accurately.
@@wingsofpegasus when time permits ...... Ceciiia Bartoli , or Sylvia Frigato, sing SI DOLCE IL TORMENTO < > always great to see and hear your fine work
on the video of Sylvia Frigato , SI DOLCE IL TORMENTO , be sure to note the musician seated middle playing the VERY early version of the Jr, Brown, Double Git-Steel guitar
Fil,thanks for this. Luciano. He is the man. Introduced so many to the world of the classics.
Like all great singers it's not just a measurable skill which adheres them to an audience it's an unmeasurable connection to the audience which Pavarotti has in spades, there may be others who appeal to the higher brow Opera audience, but Pavarotti just captured peoples imagination. it was brilliance not luck
Very fine analysis. The great Luciano was a force of nature. Besides his masterly singing talent he had such a warm and amiable voice, with a "next-door" familiarity. That made him a well-known iconic figure to all kind of public. And his 1990 "Nessun Dorma" from Puccini's Turandot became the one and only opera aria that topped the pop charts all over the world.
His voice amazed all generations🌹
I was blessed to hear him perform on three occasions. Goose bumps and tears every time. I'm verklempt.
Thanks!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!
Would love to see this with Jussi Björling - Nessun Dorma. The one guy Luciano Pavarotti idolized .
I adore Birgit Nillson🔥She was the best Turandot. Maybe Fil could feature her voice?
I have heard many well known and even "famous" male Opera singers try their voice with this song. In my personal opinion and my operatically untrained ears, some did a good job, some did a great job, and some just should not have ever even tried.
There are other channels where several male opera singers are compared singing "nesum dorma" and it is very interesting to hear just how different the singers' voices sound when you can hear them just a few seconds apart and still have the sounds of the previous singer still resonating in your mind.
I know that a lot of people love Andrea Bocelli. I am sorry that he is blind but has overcome his blindness by becoming a popular Opera singer. But....when I heard his version of this great song, I felt and saw absolutely no emotion from him; it was empty of any feelings, he was hitting all the notes but they were hollow and dry.
Not so with Pavarotti. You can see and hear him put his whole soul into that song. I have seen him where it looks like he is almost going to cry after hitting that last note. Incredible...!!
Pavarotti was and still is the proverbial 'diamond'; at the top, and unique in the classic definition of 'unique'...one of a kind. And as Theresa Howard, below, has already mentioned, even if you are just listening, such as with the great "Three Tenors", Pavarotti's unique voice is immediately recognizable.
Thanks Fil, for this part #2.
Nessun Dorma's an aria, not a song.
@@georgeedward1226 I think you are slicing that nuance rather thin. An 'aria' is the name that the Italians gave a 'song', or part of a 'song', that is sung as a solo in an opera. In a non-operatic musical, when the character sings a song by themselves, it is generally called a "solo". It could as easily be called an aria, but that term has historically come to be associated with the Opera.
That's true but I worked in the opera business for 5 years and dealt personally with a lot of the top artists, aministrators, music critics and managers including Mr. Pavarotti and would not be taken seriously if I referred to an aria as a song. You might not be corrected outright but you would get an eye roll.
@@georgeedward1226 I certainly understand, and agree. In whatever business you are involved with, you have to learn the 'language' and the proper jargon to use if you want to be accepted and respected.
If I was talking with people who were involved with Ballet and said something like: "She sure is good when she spins around like that", they would also probably look at me with those same eye rolls...and perhaps even a sneer: " Why, this unsophisticated and un-cultured man doesn't know the term 'pirouette'..!"
Exactly.
The 'Big Vincero' is one of the big 'tells' for tenors. Despite Nessum Dorma being sort of theme song through his career, he did not perform the actual opera - Turandot. Now as hard as his famous Mes Amis at the Met in his first NYC performance where he hit 9 high C's and earned the longest standing ovation ever. The Daughter of the Regiment was an opera he performed often. He had an amazing 'sweet' tone to his voice he kept well into his later years despite losing his easy high C's.
My voice coach, who had a phD in voice and a masters in linguistics, explained tongue position this way: The shape the sound waves pass through is what determines the vowel. A small-ish round shape gives you an o or u, while a wide flat shape gives you an ee. To hit a nice full note at high pitch, you can't make a wide flat shape with your mouth, because you need that jaw wide open. So you have to contort your tongue to create that shape without closing off the back of the throat. It's hard, takes a lot of practice, and will be different for each person because the roof of the mouth isn't exactly the same for everyone.
Right on with all the tongue talk...ha! But seriously it is so true, my mouth is incredibly small and my tongue is comparatively big for my mouth. Hey you have to work with what nature gave you💯‼️
Now this is my territory, having played for so many singers (rehearsals, lessons, operatic baritone husband) over decades. Nice to see a video with Pavarotti doing Nussun Dorma - great choice for an aria. Not my favorite tenor but professionally and technically wonderful for years and years. At this stage in his life and career, he could do anything he wanted - stand however he wanted, do whatever with his face, place his tongue in a way that felt right for him, etc. However, for singers who are in training and just starting out, it’s good to know (from teachers who are very good) what the preferred method is (for instance, tongue position depending on the vowel, etc). Then, after years of experience and some success, see what works best for you. Thanks for this video.
Good show Fil. Nice job as usual.✌️
Feeling very lucky running onto Part 1 and Part 2 at the same time. I enjoyed your analyses very much. I used to play Nessun Dorma, along with other Puccini arias, while caring for my Great Grandson a few years ago, he just turned 5. He loved Nessun Dorma the most! Lately, we have been listening to Queen! He really likes the Play the Game official video where Freddie appears to jump up on Rogers drums. He thought that was the funniest thing. I've been taking him back and forth to pre-school recently, and we listen to Queen. When Play the Game comes on, as that part of the song comes starts, he just looks at me and smiles! Watched your analyses on Live Aid tonight, too. We have spent the entire evening together. Thanks!!
Pavarotti was just on another damn level. That thing about how relaxed he looked is something I've always noticed. He just made it look so damn easy, but without losing that expressiveness. The contrast is especially pronounced when you see him in the Three Tenors next to Carreras and Domingo (both also brilliant, but differently so), who always looked like they were seconds away from taking flight. Meanwhile, from the neck down, Pav looks for all the world like he's chairing a town meeting. It's all in his face.
Goosebumps
Enjoying your wonderful treatment of many talented people. Your smile of appreciation for the work is why I subscribed and tune in. Thanks for the insights you share.
I love what you said about the tongue and doing things in the way that it's most natural for you... I am a singer and I had tons of teachers contradicting themselves when it comes about technic... And I feel that it's missing the forest for the tree when people tries to study "proper technic"... At the end of the day the most important thing is feeling vocally healthy when you finish singing and finding identity and expression of what you are doing! Great video... Thanks! I've always been curious of what pavarotti's sound looks like!!! 🙏😊
Always a magnificent performer, such presence. One of my favorite pieces of music, actually. I enjoyed this analysis, Fil, thanks so much.
My entire thinking about singing has changed from these videos. I admit I knew nothing about singing before watching . I feel like a whole new world has opened up for me to enjoy. Thank you Fil.
Brava Fil !!!! I had a tenor here at LA Opera explain certain things in more detail. I think he liked your analysis too ! Great job love ! Getting singers to subscribe one voice at a time🤘🏿🤘🏿❤️❤️
You never talked about rolling your Rs 😁
Now that's a talent all on it's own. Pavarotti also had that. Thanks for being so thorough with this analysis.
Keep on rocking Fil 🤘❤️
He was Italian. That's just a normal part of their language. Honestly, it's extremely easy to do if you start doing it when you're a child.
That said, when singing in Italian, Latin, French, etc...a rolled r is really just a soft d sound. For example, if you want to sing "Ave Maria" and don't know how to do the rolled r, you just say "Ave Madia" but soften the d.
Typically, when singing, one doesn't do a lengthy rolled r, so that trick will do the job.
Part 2 was not a disappointment! Worth waiting for! I loved it!
Fil, I enjoyed your commentary on this! I have watched this version of Nessun Dorma many many times. Your description of Pavarotti's voice is a great analysis. The crescendo level and the letting go of the last note is greatly explained. The relaxation technique is exquisitely described including Pavarotti's unique arched tongue placement! 🙂❤️
Pavarotti. His voice is a gift.
I absolutely loved this analysis, Fil. Nessun Dorma is one of my favorite Pavarotti songs. My mom’s all time favorite. Can you take a look at Jose Cura’s version or his singing with Sarah Brightman? His voice is powerful. But I’d like to hear what you have to say about his voice ❤
Oh yes, wonderful, how can he do that.❤❤❤
In an interview, he was once asked what one piece of advice would he give singers. He said, “ I cant begin to tell them how high the back of the tongue must be.” This is the same position I was trained in. A flat tongue, or ( god forbid) sticking out...will never produce a ringing resonant sound.
I have just noticed that when I sing in my operatic voice, I do the very same thing with my tongue. I don't do that with my lower pop voice. Interesting! Thanks for the great video!
Wonderful review. Thank you :)
Thanks Fil! Super cool analysis of one of the greatest singers of our lifetime. As a trained singer, I learned some new things about him from your unique analysis. I never noticed his tuning because his beautiful unique metallic tone and vibrato and slide was out of this world. His tongue position was always an anomaly that confounded most of us. Yet it worked. And his stillness and relaxed face and jaw in his high notes was unparalleled. You can see that he was totally in flow as a resonant container for the optimal sound. He became the arias he performed and he was a consummate interpreter of the music. Thanks for featuring him!
I'm not sure if you still check back on comments for your older videos, but I wanted to share a text message I received from my 78 year old mother (a teacher and trained singer) after sharing the Pavarotti and Julie Andrews videos with her.
"..with all that analysis by Fil, it's easier to actually appreciate what's being achieved vocally and aurally, isn't it?
Thanks for putting me on to his technical explorations and analysis of the operatic sounds, I have been blessed by his presentation, information, and commentaries".
Keep up the great content, I also share them with my daughter. She now knoes what to listen for and isn't discouraged by hearing the pitch corrected 'live / bedroom vocalists' and wonder why her voice isnt "perfect" like them.
Thanks for a very complete analysis.
Bottom line it was about his expression, delivery as in every music genre.
love his voice
What an absolutely amazing voice Pavarotti had. I’m into mainly rock and classic rock songs but there are only two classical songs of his I enjoy, one of which is this one I tried this at a karaoke once and it is extremely difficult to sing and it’s difficult for a baritone to sing. A request I like to see you analyse Roy Orbisons “I drove all night” please and keep up the good work Rock on 🤘🏻
445+ orchestra pitch tunings were popular at one time.
True. Using standard 440 as reference is stupid.
A perfect voice, as clear as a bell. Man he could really sing. Despite liking all music, I am so glad, my Father opened my mind up to both classical and opera, as a small child. Your as brilliant as always Fin.
Great content FIL!
Anatomically the arched tongue is in fact a relaxed tongue. That's how it is shaped when you have your mouth closed and don't do anything with it. Any other shape of the tongue is produced by using the muscles in it.
So, as you also pointed out, he's just sooooo relaxed, even the tongue shows.
Pavarotti was a gift from God. Thank you so much Fil!
I worship this man, only a slight exaggeration. He is still the only tenor for me.
And Jussi?
How do you not have a million subs?
David Phelps did nessum dorma too. It was less formal polish but so much more move. Please take a look at David Phelps body of work. He was a Christian singer, but he did Christmas (O Holy Night is singing) , patriotic music and things he wrote . He also did I Have Nothing (Whitney Houston cover
Thank you, for the tasteful analysis of this and prev Pavarotti. I feel unholy when looking at the purity... But, happily, the quality by far compensates!
If you listen to his masterclass (th-cam.com/video/I2LUqOHA8hY/w-d-xo.html), he seems to know _exactly_ what he is doing. Whatever you see/hear, he may have intended.
Thank you for this 2 part analysis. I used to play vinyl records of Luciano so loud when I was home alone. I had the pleasure of seeing him once when he came to Philadelphia. What a night! The man was simply magnificent. I get goosebumps listening to him.
Absolutely love your breakdowns!
I am the great fan of italian singer MARINA FIORDALISO. She is the great singer and personality. She has 4-5 different voices. You could see ORAMAI song (duration 3:34 - Sanremo festival `83) and some others.
😮 I appreciate all your videos. I've loved opera for a long time, so it's fascinating to see it analysed for the first time. I'll look out for a soprano opera singer next.
I’d love to hear your take on Sarah Brightman singing Dans la Nuit or any of her songs. Thanks for such wonderful musical insights. I love your show!
I enjoy your analysis and comments in each your videos....I have learned so much. It is a topic of which I knew practically nothing. I'd like to suggest that you do an analysis on Tim Foust's version of "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow/Stay".
*Luciano Pavarotti (my favorite tenor He's the best) appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙*
He was a truly awesome artist. Great channel, you should have more subs.
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A*maz*ing
He has such a wonderful voice , I really enjoyed him Pavarotti and friends. He sang with anyone and respected all talent. Have you ever done an an analysis on a-ha Take Me On. Would be interested because of the range in his voice.
Yes, out here somewhere!
I would suggest you listen to Pavarotti sing “Ah Mes Amis”. He hits 9 high Cs in the last minute of the aria.
Now that’s goosebumps… the King of the High C’s
I enjoyed listening to parts 1 and 2 of your analysis of Luciano Pavarotti. He was, to me, one of the best male opera singers of all time. He was truly gifted with an incredible voice indeed. May he RIP! ❤
I was recently watching Mario Lanza, an old favourite of mine and hoping that you would someday do a comparison, and then I came across this one of Pavorotti. Mario, in my opinion had the richest voice of all the tenors ever and because of this was able to add much more emotion than such as Pavorotti, who was rather monotone in comparison. Mario also had the ability to sing popular songs with one of the sweetest voices ever. I understand that you are not really comparing the attributes of one singer with another but in my opinion tone and tonal variations is what sets the greatest apart from those with mainly just technical ability.
I forgot to mention yesterday on your comments on the livestream about reactors. You do have a point about the phonies but over here there is a small population of people who have not heard a lot of rock because they are so into their own culture. Back in the 50s kids were told not to listen to rock n roll because it was not of their culture or devil music and later on the other kids were told not to the same thing so they missed out on so much good music. I do think some of the reactors are genuine. Everyone however should be exposed to opera and classical music. Have a nice day!😉
At some point you will need to take a look at the vocals of a woman who was instrumental in giving Pavarotti legitimacy early in his international career, La Stupenda herself.
Just wonderful! 👏🏾
Interesting comments about the tongue. I have a friend that is an opera singer who is American. I'd like to ask her about her tongue. She speaks American, French, German and Italian but also Russian. I've heard that Russian has the largest tonal range of any language and so it is easiest for Russians to learn other languages.
This was a great analysis video. Luciano Pavarotti is definitely in a class by himself, when it comes to singers. May he rest in peace. Cheers, Fil! ✌️
I have never been a fan of Pavarotti but my father was and we had discussions about it. I used to really admire Jose Carreras and his version is better! So try analysing his his version. If not try looking at his version of core 'ngrato which is absolutely wonderful. My father always said about Pavarotti that it was not the vibration but the gap between the vibration that made him good. Hewas never able to explain what he mean but he did have a very good ear
Totally amazing what people can do with their voices 👏🗣🎙🎼Always interesting content...thanks Fil😊💛
Hi Zena. Just got home. Long practice. Thunderstorms and super heavy rain continuously from 10:00 this morning. I love it. I love the rain.⛈️🌧️🌩️⛈️🌩️🌧️🌒☕🌆❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎...🌹
@@scottsteel4230 Hi Scott. Long day there. Glad to hear from you. I like rain too (tho not every day😉)💖💖🦆🌷🥃🥃🌦⛈☔🌈💧💧🌒💙💛🧡💚
@@zenawarrior7442 I like it when it's really dark sometimes during the day and you have the windows open a bit and it rains all day and you can hear it and the cats love it. It lulls them to sleep. If you have no place to go and you can stay in and just relax and watch a couple movies, it's great. Had a long day myself. Long practice. Got a busy Thurs. and Fri., then completely taking the weekend off. I can't wait. When I have time for myself, I usually get some recording done, which I love. Recording is alot of hard work, but the payoff when you get something sounding exactly like you want it to, is the best. When you hear through the monitors the same thing that you heard inside your head, it's a high like I can't explain. So, what were you up to today ? Any mischief ?👻...🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹
@@scottsteel4230 Oh yes those dark stormy days with the fresh smell of 🌧...very relaxing if you can stay home, just watch movies, windows open. Being 104 here today that sounds nice haha. Your recording sounds very rewarding...I think I can understand the high a little. I started work at 6, busy day, saw Mom. It was hard tho as she wouldn't let me leave so been down a bit since then, so no mischief 😉👻(I love your little ghostie)💞. Just watching 48 hrs, Guys Grocery Games...but you perked me up let me say as so nice to message 😘💛💫💛💫🌙⚘⚘💗💗💗I love your emojis too🥰
@@scottsteel4230 PS Sorry I just missed your comment on the live yesterday!! That was sweet.💜 They move so fast, if you type you lose responses 😁🙄I'll have to watch closer next time 💙🙂🔍🔎🔍🔎
Hi Fil, A couple of things to disagree with in this video.
1. At 2.30 the difference between the performances. In both instances Pavarotti has a low larynx. The difference one to the other is that he is raising the soft palette and making space in his mouth to make a softer, more ghostly sound. It's not going into falsetto, it's just making more space, BUT the key thing is that all the vocal apparatus is kept in the same place. It's not taking the voice out of gear or putting it somewhere else, because great technique works to keep tension and stress from the voice all the way through.
2. NOT everybody is different! Luciano Pavarotti is singing with developed voice operatic technique in the same way that singers did in the early 1900s. Yes his tongue is arched at the back when he goes up, BUT you will see that his jaw moves forward at the same time. Thus the tongue is out of the way to allow the most open sound possible and in turn, this means that he is able to get the most clear sound out of every bit of his breath which means longer notes.
I don't say at any point Pavarotti sings any note in falsetto, quite the opposite! I know the same methods have been used for many years to train classical singers, but everyone definitely is different even if teaching methods aren't. It's why we can tell the difference between Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli for example.
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Yep Opera is a different fish. and of course isn't just singing, they act roles at the same time. I started my experiment a couple years ago - Anna Netrebko in LaTraviatta (hot, to be simple ) Elena Garanca in Carmen and both in a version of the Ann Boleyn story. about 15 years ago now, top quality video and audio. blue ray has the necessary translations.
Damrau..Queen of the night video please!
Yes please😂
The drama is worth that and so much more…please.
Do Ralph Stanley and Patty Loveless singing "Pretty Polly" live. It's an epic country performance.
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Here are Fil's previous analysis on Luciano Pavarotti and others to enjoy!
What can we learn from SEEING one of the BEST VOICES OF ALL TIME? (Part 1)
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British guitarist analyses Luciano Pavarotti and James Brown live in 1998!
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Are they auto tuning GREAT singers? YES AND WE CAN SEE IT! Pavarotti and Dimash
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Should listen to gundula janowitz singing Richard Wagner. Or Elisabeth swartzkopf. They were absolutely amazing. And for intonation listen to Dietricht Fischer-dieskau