2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro Review - A great all-rounder?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- I first spent some time with the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro when the covid lockdown hit, which curtailed my activities somewhat. So I was pleased when I was offered the chance of an extended loan to really get to know it. I used the Rally Pro as much as I could and it became a bit of a workhorse as it arrived with full aluminium panniers! So I thought I'd break this review down to my experiences around town, on country roads and motorways stints too. I cover the engine performance, suspension, accessories, electronics and the much-debated topic of vibrations.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:04 - Around Town
06:25 - Country Roads
17:00 - Motorway
21:34 - Conclusions - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Yet another stonking review as usual, i thought i wonder what roads youll take 🤔 so many little lanes i also use i live in clare yet to see you come through here haha. Defo on my list to try one of these now to replace my 800. Thanks Tony top job as usual 👌
Thanks Jeff, I do trip through Clare now and again, so shout and wave of you see me!
Excellent 2nd review Tony
Thank you kindly
Nice take,thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the review, mate 👍 I'm picking my new rally pro up in two weeks. As for the vibs I avoid motorways unless I really have too and I'm perfectly happy at 70mph regardless of what country I'm in. 😂
Enjoy the bike, its a cracker
Rode this around the Get On ADV Fest for 6 days and it is so fun to wheelie. Bit heavy up front for my liking, but I always say the best ADV bike is just a dirt bike ha.
Trading my 4 year old tracer 900gt in for this bike soon.nice review, I'm sold.
Thanks for this video Tony. I’ve owned the RP for almost a year now, as well as my 2016 Street Twin. It’s a cracking bike for touring and adventure. I’ve taken it camping twice now and it handles what I’ve thrown at it beautifully. I especially like the wind protection (which works well for at least for my build). Planning to change out the tyres to something a little more dirt capable once the Battlaxes are done.
I did get the navigation working but I have to say it’s not the greatest. Generally, I’m finding using my phone’s maps on a Quadlock mount to be a lot better.
Thanks for the feedback. its always good to hear from long term owners
@@mancavemoto I have had mine for just over a year. I changed tires to TKC 70 front and TKC70 Rocks at the back. Work great on gravel roads and on tarmac. I tour 3 times long distances so far, twice to the Alps. Perfect motorcycle for this kind of use. I was thinking what would I replace it with, and I realised there is nothing out there I would like more at the moment. Maybe when Yamaha will introduce Tenere 900?
Nice video Tony, very well presented... I've had the Rally Pro for a few years now and have noticed the vibes, but they've never put me off. I was a bit weary of them before purchasing the bike, as I used to get them on the Tiger 800. I just put the issue down to me... I'd probably receive vibrations on an electrical bike too, to be honest. 🤣
Thanks for sharing Darryll, yeah its hard to talk about them without people jumping on that one thing. I've heard owners say it settles down a little as the mileage goes on the bike?
Seriously interested in getting one of these later this year so appreciate the depth of explanation Tony. As I will be doing some long tours through Europe, that resonating issue at higher speed does concern me 🤔. Budget wise, I’m happy to spend around 15k so it’s either this or maybe a 2nd hand GS1250 although I’d prefer the lower weight and nimbleness of the Tiger…… food for thought for sure.
Glad it was helpful! It was a difficult balance of mentioning it without over egging the issue. It's there I may notice it more than others so just trying to feedback as openly as i can
You aren’t the only one whose raised the issue. As I envisage doing several thousand miles in one hit away from home, factors like comfort and vibration are issues though so the candid reviews are important. I have no doubt how good the Tigers are, but smoothness will be important to me. Thanks again
For touring I would suggest GT Pro with electric suspension
I have the 2023 Rally Pro.....you need to look at the quality problems with the GS...BMW is falling down.
@@mancavemoto what sthe difference between 2020 vs 2023?
Anti-vibration bar mounts like Rox Elite would probably fix it, and/or filling the bars with insulation foam. Heavier bar end weights too possibly? Also it could well just be general harmonic resonance rather than crank derived vibration and sometimes removing the CAT gets rid of that, even the engine protection bars or a badly designed bash plate can be the cause. I would take one off of these items off at at a time to find out if it were mine. I know how it gets to you, strangely nowadays my 2021 KTM 690 vibrates less than many contemporary twins or multis at 80 mph, the higher the speed the smoother it gets. Goes through a rough patch at 60 mph in which you cant see the mirrors then smooths out from 70 mph upwards.
I've been thinking of the 900 rally pro for some time now and planning a test ride this year. However, I'm really happy with my 800xca so it's going to have to be worth the extra money 🤣
It would be interesting hearing your thoughts after jumping off the 800 for a test ride
Hello and congrats for you deep and accurate rewievs. I have the possibility to pick a Tiger Rally Pro 900 or an Africa Twin Adventure Sport manual, both brand new at the same price. So, how do they compare each other? Which are them like and dislike? Which is the better bike and why? I mainly do week end trip from 200 to 400 km in a day, and the rest commuting...thank you in advance
Nice review Tony. I HAVE to agree with you on the display arrangement on the TFT. It's NOT great at all. Lots of wasted space taken up by a fairly useless rev counter (which still isn't very informative) BMW do it MUCH better. (Keep it simple)
The bike itself looks very nice indeed and I would love one. All mod cons that you need (heated grips, seat etc) but the Triumph app needs doing away with. I've never seen a review where it worked properly. Either put in Apple Carplay, Android Auto or do away with it. Honda have both on the TransAlp.
It's a great all rounder for someone who uses their bike every day and wants to tour on it too. Now if only Triumph would fix that display...
Cheers, no bike is perfect and these shortcomings are annoying rather than deal breaking. Its a lovely bike though all in all
@@mancavemoto Agreed.
Great review Tony. Thank you. Your voice, onboard, comes through nice and clear. May I ask what setup you use? 👍😎🇦🇺
Thanks, it’s a ride lav mic plugged directly into a GoPro Hero10 via a the media mod.
@@mancavemoto Thank you. For the GoPro settings do you use standard mic or standard mic +? I also ride with a Cardo Packtalk Bold. Can I simply connect its mic to it knowing I’ll lose the connection to the Cardo unit. I mostly use the Cardo for navigation and music (hence the 45 mm speakers) and not for communication.
Standard Mic, but then the audio gets tweaked a little in final cut. Does the Bold have a 3.5mm jack? I know the headphones do , but I thought the mic was a different connector?
Good review Tony have had my tiger rally pro 900 for a year now clock up 10000 miles on it now, just changed my Bridgestone a41 for the new Bridgestone at41 great tyres in the dry or wet. Went to the triumph factory a couple of days ago and it pissed down on the motorway great grip. Also had no reel problem with the vibration at high speed!!! As for the nav I had a problem to start with but found it was a problem with my I phone setting as the user name that comes up in phone setting must not have more that 15 letters works ok now. Keep up the great vids 👍
Thanks for the info, ah that could well have been the issue!
I’ve noticed on my GT Pro that the vibes have decreased considerably once a few miles are on it ( I’ve done 15k on mine now) also I fitted a pair of bar ends and now I hardly notice vibes at all. So much better than my old BMW s1000r which was a vibe magnet !
Interesting, thanks for the info
Is there a reason you chose the GT over the Ralley?
I rode the Rally first and didn’t like the handling at all because of 21 inch front wheel , i then rode GT pro and loved it, in my opinion a much better handling bike, as I don’t do off road the GT was the obvious choice !
@@lordpunter6188 thank you for you reply. I am test riding the GT Pro next week and having the same thought-when will I ever go off-road? Answer is never or very rarely.
Had the same issue with the satnav on my GT Pro. It all works well if you read the fine print in the instructions (which I did not) and go from pairing menu to the dash to accept the connection at the last step.
I was never getting that message, turns out it may have been because the device name was too long?
@@mancavemoto bike never tells you to do that, you are just stuck in the settings, from which you have to open the main dashboard and then it will show you the pairing request where it shows you low fuel warnings and such.
Ah right gotcha!
This is a fantastic motorcycle. I own the Tiger 850 Sport and have just added the Tiger 900 Rally pro to my collection. The worst part of the bike is the dash. I can't believe that Triumph would design something that has options for screen style, yet not one of them is good. Its as if they wanted to fill the screen with clutter, the way they show the rpms. It's also irritating that the odometer doesn't appear on any of the screens. Triumph should have just made it a design similar to BMW. I hope that they will offer some type of software upgrade in the future, so that the screen options can be changed to something better...
The screen is hideous imo. Who ever designed it & approved it, both should be fired. I am not a fan of triples but this bike with the new crank configuration is tempting.
But the screen image is a deal breaker for me. Triumph should take a look at what BMW do with their TFT screen layout for inspiration of what can be done, and should be done.
Great vlog as usual..what tyres would you recommend for this bike
Thanks, I guess that depends on the type of riding you do most?
Excellent video and review I have been a subscriber to your channel for years now. I can't decide on this tiger 900 rally or a African twin adventure sports dct. I will be riding the bike on 80 percent road and then just riding on gravel roads. And on the mid Atlantic back discovery route in the United States. What would your pick be?
Thank you! Tough call but I’m a big fan of the Africa Twin, so that’s what I’d pick. I just love riding it, it’s not the lightest or fastest, but it always makes me smile.
Maybe drop us a quick line on how it stacks up against it's main competitors in the Desert X, Africa Twin and the F850 GS?
Good question. Desert x has more off-road bias, but feels lighter, nimble and more fun to ride tbh. Africa Twin is bigger and heavier, but looks nicer personally I think is a nicer ride, but I will admit to being an Africa twin fan. The GS850 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, but is still a very good machine, feels more utilitarian and dare I say it agricultural compared to the Tiger
Very comprehensive.
Great bike, but at 14g should be.
Servicing costs would be good to know, it's getting to be a big cost.
I know service intervals are long on this bike ( too long ?) but I would imagine it's probably once a year for most people.
So hp/pcp payment plus a big service. I wonder if Triumph do a service plan like dome cars?
Good one.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Thanks, yes I was trying to pin some costs down. Triumph do offer a service plan, which stays with the bike if you sell it on, which is good. Cheers, you too
Is the vibration issue same with the GT Pro?
Currently torn between the Tracer 9GT and the Triumph 900 GT, both are great bikes
triumph 🫡
@@manojvijayasegar9827 just bought the Tiger😁
@@Bl0ckHe1d how do u like it?
@@MrTeslaX love it, it’s a great bike 🏍️
Tiger has BETTER seat. More fun factor. AND, better accessories.
I have 750 Miles on my new 2023 Tiger 900 Rally Pro I've added crash bars, bash plate, top case etc etc and I'm 6-0 ft, 200lbs and I'm getting only 37 MPG. ? I'm told it gets better but, I've had the first service already and...still about 38-MPG. ???? I was expecting much much better!??
Tried the GT PRO, liked it but hated the dash and how it felt at higher speeds. Tried the Multi V2S and even though it’s more expensive I much prefer the engine and handling even though it needs the V4 dash…
That V2S is lovely, I nearly bought a multistrada 950 when I got my Tiger 800, but just couldnt afford the extra asking price
The the 2023 model the same as the 2020 model apart from the colour?
Knowing that the amount of tread on the road at any one time is about less than your hand What tyres would you put in on instead of the factory supplied ones. ??? Michelin ? Would you get road going ones or slightly off road for better grip. ????
That really depends on how and where you want to ride it. if you only do occasonal "gravel" type roads then an 80/20 tyre like the Dunlop Meridian is a good choice
I had few smaller bikes before , not over 400cc, didnt drive for the past 7-8 years , do you think this bike would be good for lower experience driver? i’m 6’3 so i want something comfy for road trips
Given your size, I would say yes this would be good
Did you notice any heat issues on your knee from the side vents? Some taller riders complain about the heat.
I can't say i noticed it, but then it was cold when i had the bike
@@mancavemoto Thanks, I am ready to buy and can’t make up my mind between the Triumph 900 or 1200. I have heard a lot of complaints about the heat from the 900. However I am also considering a 1250 gs and KTM Super Adventure.
Hi Tony. How does the ride compare with the Scrambler 1200?
A little ‘taughter’ is the best way to describe it. Not as soft. It’s good, very neutral and confidence inspiring
I’ve got a simple question I am a beginner rider getting ready to take my motorcycle class in a couple of months. As a beginner would this bike be too much for me and also I’m 6ft 3 and around 280 in weight?
Given your size I would say you'll have no problem. Its a really easy bike to ride
I like many aspects of the bike, but not a fan of the “T-plane crank” marketing spiel. It deprives the rider of a smooth triple. Throttle seemed to have an annoying delay when I rode it, so the fuel mapping could do with some tinkering.
It feels a little like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Imagine the uproar if they released a tiger with a twin engine! But that’s what pretty much every other adventure bike is using.
How can U explain triumph official web site mentionned 850 mm seat high for the tiger 900 a few month ago and now 860 ?! Is there New suspensions ajustement ? Have they change the model of tires ?
I can't, i've not seen it listed at 850mm. I took the seat heights directly from their website when i made the video.
@@mancavemoto OK, thanks
I really like these but having watched your vid and seeing corrosion on fasteners it puts me off. Maybe it's just an abused press bike but even so at 14.5k It's not good. Triumph servicing costs are horrendous too. A mate has bought a GT Pro and he's been quoted some astronomical figure (which isn't far off a Ducati Desmo service) for a major service. Still it looks good and has that triple sound track.
yep I think thats its a case of it being a press bike, it gets used on salty roads over the winter and not all reviewers are conscientious enough to clean them properly ;)
Agree with "vibes" issue this tends to be a Luddite/Little Britain issue - "don't like that one"
Rally explorer 1200 vs Rally pro 900?
Hmmm, depends what you want really. I think i'd go 900 just from the point of view of weight. Its not something i worry about, but once you start adding luggage it soon adds up
@@mancavemoto most of the time will be on highway, average 3h ride long, sometime with my girlfriend and need something comfortable. I have an opportunity on marketplace right now, 1200 27k$ or 900 20k$
I'm torn between this and the Norden... Decisions, decisions...
A tough decision indeed!
I'd rather have your 790.
I hear you. Its still going strong!
The main thing I get annoyed with Triumphs is holding the clutch to start. It’s just dumb.
You get used to it. Its a safety feature I guess
@@mancavemoto yep, I’ve had my 17 speed since 2018. I’m jealous of simple push button start lol.
How tall are you?! 🥲
5ft 10in - 178cm
@@mancavemoto I'm 175cm and I'm thinking ordering this bike! Thanks a million