Nice video. A couple of comments. 23.976 is a framerate intended for broadcast TV. NTSC specifically. Unless you are shooting for broadcast TV where you need that framerate to sync with broadcast sound, there is no reason to use it unless you are matching to other 23.976 footage. 24FPS will work for everything else including the web which is where 99% of the footage from these cameras is headed for. Shooting at ISO 400 drops the camera's dynamic range from 13 to 12 stops. Shooting at 800 gives you the full 13 stops of DR. If you set resolves color management to use Davinci YRGB Color Managed for the color science and your output color space to SDR Rec 709, resolve will give you an excellent starting grade of your footage from log that many times will need no further adjustment from you (unless you are going for a specific look). Those settings are in the color management section of the project settings (little gear in the lower right).
This OG Pocket is so underrated compared to its later incarnations. Black Magic should release a newer version of the OG with touch display, better SD card compatibility, better HDMI port, etc.. One can dream, yea?
Dude, this is the best video for someone just getting started with the OG bmpcc. I've had mine for over a year and just couldn't seem to get my settings where I wanted. This is such a huge help. I will be coming back and watching this again when I start my edit. Thanks so much!!
The definitive BMPCC OG course. Detailed and well covered video. Well done. I have a bunch of other cameras, but I always come back to the OG. There is a special sauce in that sensor that is not easily replicated.
My filmmaking partner slash best friend and I have now acquired the original BMPCC and also the Panasonic Lumix 12-35 zoom. We are very happy with this gear, and since we decided to go this way due to your tutorials and recommendations, logic dictates we should now clean your house and tend to your garden whenever you wish. However, since we are in Norway and you are in a very faraway country, we hope we can come to some kind of practicable solution that's agreeable to both parties.
Best primer on the BMPCC OG yet. Mine is buried inside of a cinema rig, but this makes me want to take it out for some hand-held shooting and see how I like the results with 400 ISO in natural light.
totally agree with bex cat-herder. best video for beginner bmpcc og user. loved how you kept things simple by working with a single node- just to get things going. very thoughtful. helped me a ton with my first video. thanks!
Amazing tutorial. This is the first time I've ever seen the full process from setup to shooting the footage to bringing it back into edit. Thanks very much.
awesome video man. really helps. a lot of videos out there are so overly complicated with people flexing their knowledge while leaving out crucial details. more bmpcc OG videos please!
Thank you very much for posting these great videos about this much-beloved little camera. I happen to have one but with almost no accessories, so your gear recommendations are so welcome to be honest, and best of all they're quite affordable! So thank you very much! Cheers.
Very good tutorial! One tip I would add is to buy the slimraw software to offload the dng files to your computer . You can choose raw compression similar to the braw from the pocket 4k! All the pro’s from normal raw shooting still apply but file size will be the same as prores hq. It adds only about 5-10 min extra time depending on your system (2019 macbook pro 16 inch base model here).
Thanks for this! I've owned the OG bmpcc for a while now and still haven't shot and edited anything on it, as I've been learning the basics of filmmaking and editing using a GoPro and Sony zv1, but about to shoot my first short in a month, so will be watching this video 100's of times between now and then!!
@mattpeevy5102 I'm just about to shoot my second short film on it and it's an amazing wee camera. With a couple of lights and a decent mic you can get so much out of it! I'm tempted to buy another one before they get even more expensive. The 4K looks good too!
95 % on zebra on the bmpcc og as in the 4k wich i keep with the cdng firmware , is because channels dont clip all the same way , in the very top part of the wavescope u can see red clip almost one stop before green and blue , thats why 95 % is also good at 100% u can have more clipping in the red channel , also a good reason to keep ir cut / hot mirror on even when not using a ND 😉
This is great, I learned a lot more. I will say though that I have hardly shot in RAW simply because I’m scared I’ll have a lot of dropped frames even using a decent memory card.
@@WillvonTagen Oh good - I’ve just bought one of those as I’m filming a short with actors this weekend. The fast Sandisk ones I use have been great for prores and for the little bit of RAW I have shot using them, but I’ve heard good things about the Kingston.
You can’t just set and forget the shutter angle. If your shot involves panning or significant movement, increasing the shutter angle makes an important visual difference.
I very much disagree. There is no reason to vary from 180 unless you need to dip to 178.2 because of frequency differences from artificial light sources.
Will I always appreciate your posts on BMPCC. I am a big fan of this little miracle. QC Hohem M2 Gimbal can we use? If not what gimbal you recommend. Thanks.
Great info. You mention color grading raw holds up better than prores. Is there any dynamic range differences between prores and raw? Or is the real benefit only found color grading. Would be a great video break down comparing both raw and prores differences.
@@WillvonTagen What about something like the Tilta pocket follow focus? I’m interested in buying a BMPCC and wondering best options for pulling focus on such a small rig
Great video. But it's Dec 2022, almost 2023 now. Can this still be bought for low budget movie project as main camera. All is good about this camera when you read and see the videos. Except there are some people saying color rendition from this is not reliable all the time. With green/brown tints etc. Please guide. Thank You.
Hi! I am posting a new video tomorrow about shooting a feature with the BMPCC OG. I think it’s a great low budget option. There are no color issues if you use proper ND filters with IR cut. I have also had the film projected theatrically and the quality still holds up on and 80 Foot theatre screen. The BMCC 2.5k is also a great option with some more professional elements added. Both cameras work best when rigged out a little-and quality lenses make all the difference ;)
@@WillvonTagen btw - I just purchased the buttery luts. I had some footage with og bmpcc prores 422 HQ. (not raw). But prores 422 hq files are also big size. When I use buttery luts, results are not that great. I am not sure this is meant to color grade cinema dng raw file only?
idk if this is correct, but you can apply the same color grade to the rest of your clips at once by selecting all but the one you graded, then right click the graded clip and then click apply grade.
great video. but I'd respectfully disagree about one thing. Buy variable NDs are not good. They use two polarizers in order to create the darken and brighten effect for exposure. They look great on objects that are not people but if you stop down on the ND and aim the camera at a human face, it will remove all the specular highlights from the skin and the end result looks odd. all reflections and bounce light on the skin disappear and it looks dry and abnormal. Id suggest purchasing normal NDs a .9 , 1.2 and a 2.4 to swap between.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Isn't the moire quite noticeable in raw compared to ProRes? Would you recommend fitting an anti-moire filter to the camera?
I’ve owned this camera for 8 years now, and yes. Moire shows itself regardless, but there’s sensor artifacting moire that commonly shows up when you ghost the image, so you do have to avoid lots of direct light onto the sensor. That’s where I notice it most. Still better than the real OG quirks we used to have on this camera, like when the sun would show up as a black dot! Haha
You would do this if you want to edit somewhere other than resolve. If you edit your entire project in DaVinci then there is no need to make proxies. But if you do then you will need proxies as programs like premiere cannot open the DNG raw files.
Thanks for watching! The 4K has a different menu system but the principles are the same--though you have more forgiveness in post with the wider ISO range. I wouldn't shoot 1080 on the 4k, as it crops the sensor a considerable amount. If you need 1080 with the 4k, I would shoot natively and then downsize in post.
I’ve owned an OG pocket since 2014, and one absolutely crucial thing is you HAVE to use a UV+IR cut filter, to stress that point too that you made. It’ll prevent browning/marooning from the ND on the sensor
Thanks for the tutorial. Does the K&F variable ND you recommend help eliminate IR pollution. I use non-variable ND's with an IR filter in front with good results. Variable ND is definitely more convenient for exposure control. I'm forced to use aperture to control exposure in my case.
Thanks for the comment and for watching! I just realized the Filter in the link was a different one from what I am currently using, so I have updated it to what I have now :) Sorry for any confusion there.
Hi I bought this camera because of you. I have a question. I want to shoot my first docu in BW. Is it necesario to use Raw in BW ? Or ProRes LT is ok. Thanks !!!
So glad I could help! I would shoot ProRes HQ or 422 at a minimum if you aren’t shooting raw. Try to get as much quality as possible to help yourself out down the production line :)
Hello Will Thanks for a great video on the BMPCC. Just quick question/clarification. I read in the comments that you change the link to the Hoya ND filter. But I can't find anything on the Amazon site or the site of Hoya that this filter also works as an IR cut filter. Could verify that it's also working as an IR cut filter? Thanks in advance
Hi Anders. The Hoya filter is the one I use for both my BMPCC and BMMCC and there is zero image corruption/discoloration from the ND. I’m not sure what Hoya says specifically, but I assume the IR cut is sufficient as I have used plenty of non-IR cut filters before with negative results. So you should have no problem whatsoever. 👍🏻
@@WillvonTagen a relief to finally hear it straight from the source. The browning of footage with NDs has always been the achilles heel of shooting exteriors for me :) Could it be that the variable ND is made up of polarizers (not marooning) and the normal ND (marooning) is not? congrats on these key videos that have totally revamped my enthusiasm for bmpcc
Thanks for watching! I just realized the Filter in the link was a different one from what I am currently using, so I have updated it to what I have now from Hoya :)
I think exposing to the right is great practice for this camera, which is why I set my Zebras to 100%. That usually gets me to that point in the overall exposure.
Hey, I can't find an answer anywhere to my confusion re the colour space transform settings! I saw from various videos that CST should be applied to the final node, so the rec709 transform doesn't limit the grading potential of the RAW footage. I'd been simply changing it to rec709 in the wee camera raw decode box left of the colour wheels. Everyone seems to add CST to a final node though, so I've started doing it that way, and intuitively I've been setting CST parameters to input colour space: BM Film gen 1; Input gamma: BM design Film; output colour space: rec709; output gamma: rec709. The image seems decent to me, with plenty of latitude to colour grade, but I've no idea if I'm using the right settings, and most of what I can find online refers to or uses the 4K or 6K settings. I'm using the OG bmpcc so just wondering if you have any knowledge or understanding of using a CST node on the OG raw footage..?
Okay, well, this is something!! Thanks a lot for this mini course! Just one question - when shooting in 25p, what degree would you recommend? Thanks a lot!
For 25p it depends on your light source. If you are using artificial lights outside of the US I would advise 172.8 degree shutter to avoid banding. If you are in the US or it’s natural light then 180 is still preferred :)
Any recommendations for a cage in 2022. You pretty much covered everything else I need as far as settings and the battery and ND but do you think I should get a cage as well?
Keep an eye on eBay for the wooden camera cages-particularly if they include the cable locks. Small rig made a knock off of it that also works well. Keep in mind the cage is more for attaching accessories over physical protection of the camera, so no need to go overboard.
Nice and usefull video, I have a question. ( sorry for my bad english because I'm from Italy) I got BMPCC OG with Sigma art 18-35/1.8 and Viltrox speedboster. In order to record an interview located in a house with low-light, wich is the best settings for ISO and SHUTTER ? I use always Raw,Film,24fps and 172,8. Thanks a lot in advance. Bye
Hi what is the best setting for time laps please i set the camera to 2 hours TIME LAPSE Intervals instead of time laps the video changed to slow motion in resolve thx
Hmmm. I’m not sure what setting you used, the Timelapse function will play back as a Timelapse even while the footage is still on the camera. It depends a bit how much movement is in the shot, but remember you can always speed it up more later, so sometimes the lower settings are better to start with. “1 or 2 seconds” gives good results.
Hello. Thank you for great wideo. Do you think Apple Prores is better than DNxHR 10 bit from example or other DNx if i need edit files in Adobr Premiere after export?
I really don’t. All those MFT anamorphics are a bit too long for all around use. Average viewers don’t have a clue what an anamorphic lens looks like except for the “black bars” so I think you would get more mileage and better results from spherical lenses and add the anamorphic look in post. I think it’s very, very important to be able to get wide with these cameras and 24mm isn’t a great starting point.
I use the BMPCC 4k to film the videos. I think the 4K is a better all around camera. Better ports. Great screen. Very usable. I think the image from the OG is more organic. I would consider it a hobby or special project camera where the 4K is what I would use for paid jobs--if that makes sense :)
QUESTION: My BPCC it’s reading my Sandisk extreme pro 128GB V30 17 MB/s card, I’m not sure where if it’s my camera not being up to date or my camera is actually broken? If anyone can explain that would be great thanks
Great Video! I just have two questions, you said to shoot in 180°, but I heard from a friend that for shooting with 800 ISO and 24 FPS, the setting 172.8° is preferable, is this true? (for context, he mainly shoots with the BM 6k Pro and Arri Mini for Commercials) And the second question is, why do you shoot in 23.98 and not 24 FPS? Does it make a noticeable difference?
This 100% depends on where you live--and I should have remembered to mention this. In Europe (and other countries that operate on different light frequencies) you want to use 172.8 when artificial light is dominant in your frame. 180 will not mesh with the European light frequencies and you will get banding in your image. In daylight it is not a problem. In general, 180 looks better than 172.8, but again, if it means the light will ruin your image you will need 172.8 (ideally though, on a set your lights will work with 180. But normal lights won't.) With regards to 24 vs 23.98... I almost discussed this in the video but wanted to keep it short. There is really not a big difference between the two and your results will be nearly identical, but 23.98 is industry standard and most secondary sound recorders are set to sync with 23.98. It is just closer to the academy standard of what film cameras were designed to run on when crystal synced. Hope this answers your questions for you, thanks for watching!
@@WillvonTagen Thank you for this detailed Answer! I will definitely try and shoot in 180° and see if there is any difference in the light meshing, as I have just bought a Studio light, so I think that it should not affect it. In Regards to the 24 FPS, i never thought about the syncing of the sound recorders, and last time it was kinda off then I tried to sync my footage to the sound recording, so I will also definitely also try out to shoot in 23.98 and see if that solves the issue. Thank you again, your Videos are really helping a lot, I have watched a ton of BMPCC Videos and yours are by fare the most informative and detailed!
I need help, I shoot in raw on this camera but it saves as a collection of still images, and I can't for the life of me find a way to import the images in a way that plays them as a video clip?!! Anyone know what to do?
You need to open them I DaVinci Resolve and it will assemble all the clips to play back. There is a way to do it in Premiere (see my video) but it doesn’t seem to always work depending on people’s versions of premiere. However DaVinci is free from Blackmagic and I would suggest starting there.
Hey there, been enjoying your videos on this camera. Can you tell me if the menu screens can be outputted over HDMI? Or is it just the status text and histagram? Thanks in advance :)
I’m trying to figure out how to use DaVinci Resolve on iPad with no experience, and I have some Pro Res and Raw shots opened in the media area. The ProRes videos look/play normally, but the raw videos all look like folders with images and sound files. I downloaded all the photos from one of the raw folders into the media area but it’s still just this huge series of photos. I see on the App Store it actually doesn’t list “Raw” as a supported file format, but its does say Black Magic raw (BRAW) which they apparently started after the OG. Is there some way to turn these raw image sequence files into regular videos with sound in DaVinci resolve? Wasn’t expecting it to be this complicated 😅 I’ve searched TH-cam but haven’t found the answer yet.
For big shoots I use a cage, but in this stripped down form the battery plat just screws into the top mount on the camera. Take a look at the small rig NPF batter adapters--they have a built in screw.
is the way i import BMPCC og in RAW the same (i recorded in RAW not prores)? do I need to do any fancy shit like selecting rec709 or something non intuitive...
Yes and No. You can’t switch on false color to view on the back of the camera-but if you have a monitor with false color you can view it off the monitor with the monitor’s own settings.
@@WillvonTagensince the og only goes to 75% on zebras can you explain how to use the histogram with the og or make a video about it using this camera specifically for skin tones? I use false color on my bmpcc 4k, but it would be nice to learn to get it spot on every time with the og as well!
Had no idea that shooting RAW give me so much possibilities, for example temp change is so natural, not like in color settings where it feels like you add "mexican" filter 😄
I‘ve Never tried a 1GB Card-I don’t think the Kingston Canvas Select Plus line goes to 1GB and that’s the line I trust most in the new market. However the 512GB hold a couple hours in Raw and are only about $50 each on Amazon.
Hey, nice Video! My problem is that i shoot in RAW and it plays back fine on cam, but as soon as i move the CinemaDNG files to Davinci Resolve there are missing frames…any solutions how I can fix this? I edit my footage on Mac btw
I tried it with the Kingston but same problem…sometimes it works and sometimes not…maybe it has something to do with the copying process from the sd to mac?
Hey Will, I can't seem to get to the menu with six icons.......is because I need to update my cameras firmware, or am I just missing something? When I click the menu button I takes me to settings
Nice video. A couple of comments. 23.976 is a framerate intended for broadcast TV. NTSC specifically. Unless you are shooting for broadcast TV where you need that framerate to sync with broadcast sound, there is no reason to use it unless you are matching to other 23.976 footage. 24FPS will work for everything else including the web which is where 99% of the footage from these cameras is headed for. Shooting at ISO 400 drops the camera's dynamic range from 13 to 12 stops. Shooting at 800 gives you the full 13 stops of DR. If you set resolves color management to use Davinci YRGB Color Managed for the color science and your output color space to SDR Rec 709, resolve will give you an excellent starting grade of your footage from log that many times will need no further adjustment from you (unless you are going for a specific look). Those settings are in the color management section of the project settings (little gear in the lower right).
Totally agree with you, thanks for the info
@@hugodotvideo Maybe flash this extra info on the screen?
ISO is usually metadata when shooting RAW, so your comment is surprising. Do you have a source?
@@LitNews if shooting raw then ISO does not matter
@@PanDownTiltLeft Why would you buy this camera and not shoot RAW?
This OG Pocket is so underrated compared to its later incarnations. Black Magic should release a newer
version of the OG with touch display, better SD card compatibility, better HDMI port, etc..
One can dream, yea?
Dreaming there with you! ;)
Dude, this is the best video for someone just getting started with the OG bmpcc. I've had mine for over a year and just couldn't seem to get my settings where I wanted. This is such a huge help. I will be coming back and watching this again when I start my edit. Thanks so much!!
The definitive BMPCC OG course. Detailed and well covered video. Well done. I have a bunch of other cameras, but I always come back to the OG. There is a special sauce in that sensor that is not easily replicated.
Glad it was helpful, I love this little camera as well :)
This is Awesome!
The og bmpcc is a secret weapon.
Love it..... Great video.
Your username confirms your commitment
My filmmaking partner slash best friend and I have now acquired the original BMPCC and also the Panasonic Lumix 12-35 zoom. We are very happy with this gear, and since we decided to go this way due to your tutorials and recommendations, logic dictates we should now clean your house and tend to your garden whenever you wish. However, since we are in Norway and you are in a very faraway country, we hope we can come to some kind of practicable solution that's agreeable to both parties.
Hahaha, thanks buddy. I appreciate the kind words and am always happy to help :)
@@WillvonTagen :)
Very timely! Learned a lot about how to utilize BMPCC OG because of your channel! Looking forward for more BMPCC OG tutorials.
So glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.
Definitely! So glad it was helpful :)
Wow, great job. Better than 99% of TH-cam camera videos!
Wow, thank you very much! :)
You added a huge value to my film career than any other youtube channel, thank you for taking the time to do this Will
Absolutely, glad I could help!
I LOVE THE BMPCC OG IS EXTRAORDINARY
Agreed :)
Best primer on the BMPCC OG yet. Mine is buried inside of a cinema rig, but this makes me want to take it out for some hand-held shooting and see how I like the results with 400 ISO in natural light.
Let me know what you think! I used to always do 800 as well until a DP friend of mine advised setting things lower and shortly after I was sold.
Wonderful video - Thank you! That 'USE SETTINGS' tip will save me so so much time.
So glad it was helpful!
totally agree with bex cat-herder. best video for beginner bmpcc og user. loved how you kept things simple by working with a single node- just to get things going. very thoughtful. helped me a ton with my first video. thanks!
Great to see you working with the OG, kiddo!
Always! I love this little camera :)
Amazing tutorial. This is the first time I've ever seen the full process from setup to shooting the footage to bringing it back into edit. Thanks very much.
awesome video man. really helps. a lot of videos out there are so overly complicated with people flexing their knowledge while leaving out crucial details. more bmpcc OG videos please!
Thank you very much :)
I've been with the BMPCC for two years and I just discovered the double click on OK button! :) thanks
So glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
Amazing content, both technical and inspiration straight out through the video! 🙌
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Vielen Dank für diese wichtigen Hinweise. Sehr schön gemacht.
Kein Ding! Fuer mich hat es auch spass gemacht. Danke :)
Actually thinking about shooting on my Bmpcc for the first time today, so great timing!
Super! Good Luck and have fun! :)
Thank you very much for posting these great videos about this much-beloved little camera. I happen to have one but with almost no accessories, so your gear recommendations are so welcome to be honest, and best of all they're quite affordable! So thank you very much! Cheers.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching :)
Just got an bmpcc for a great price. My first cinema camera, will try these settings out. Thanks!
Good luck and have fun!
@@WillvonTagen do you use the variable ND filter only for outdoor? When indoor with iso 400 and ND the picture gets pretty dark, shooting in ProresHQ
This video made me go any buy a bmpcc og to pair with my bmpcc 4k camera.
Still have mine. I’ll never get rid of it even though I’ve moved on to S35 sensors. Such a great camera.
Agreed! It’s a great little camera :)
I still have two of mine and use them for my cooking videos. Love that dynamic range. A great camera indeed!
@@CreativeCookingVideos there’s definitely a resurgence of footage in 2022 on here and I’m absolutely loving it. It really set the bar in its day!
extremely helpful for a new bpmcc og user, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
thank you so much - learnt a huge amount about how to get the best from my camera - really appreciate you sharing your knowledge like this!
Been using resolve for years and picked up some great tips here. Thanks so much!
So glad it was helpful!
Again, so helpful your videos. Thank you!
So glad it was helpful!
Very good tutorial! One tip I would add is to buy the slimraw software to offload the dng files to your computer . You can choose raw compression similar to the braw from the pocket 4k! All the pro’s from normal raw shooting still apply but file size will be the same as prores hq. It adds only about 5-10 min extra time depending on your system (2019 macbook pro 16 inch base model here).
Awesome Tip! Thanks :)
THE DEFINITVE GUIDE TO USE BMPCC OG
Thank you!
Thanks for this! I've owned the OG bmpcc for a while now and still haven't shot and edited anything on it, as I've been learning the basics of filmmaking and editing using a GoPro and Sony zv1, but about to shoot my first short in a month, so will be watching this video 100's of times between now and then!!
Do you want to sell it? :)
@mattpeevy5102 I'm just about to shoot my second short film on it and it's an amazing wee camera. With a couple of lights and a decent mic you can get so much out of it! I'm tempted to buy another one before they get even more expensive. The 4K looks good too!
Wow! This was incredibly informative Will! Thx!
thanks for the great video. One video which explains the full cycle. thanks a lot sir!! subscribed .
Thank you very much!
You should do a video like this for the Blackmagic 4K
I will get on it ;)
95 % on zebra on the bmpcc og as in the 4k wich i keep with the cdng firmware , is because channels dont clip all the same way , in the very top part of the wavescope u can see red clip almost one stop before green and blue , thats why 95 % is also good at 100% u can have more clipping in the red channel , also a good reason to keep ir cut / hot mirror on even when not using a ND 😉
Thanks for the tip! :)
@@WillvonTagen YW ! And good shooting ;)
This is great, I learned a lot more. I will say though that I have hardly shot in RAW simply because I’m scared I’ll have a lot of dropped frames even using a decent memory card.
I’ve never once had a dropped frame issue. Try the Kingston Canvas Select Plus cards linked in the description (only the 128/256/512gb)
@@WillvonTagen Oh good - I’ve just bought one of those as I’m filming a short with actors this weekend.
The fast Sandisk ones I use have been great for prores and for the little bit of RAW I have shot using them, but I’ve heard good things about the Kingston.
Thanks for your help, Perfect video !
Thank you - great tutorial :) learned heaps!
So glad it was helpful!
I absolutely love the look you get in the opening scenes. Do you sell luts?
Thanks so much! I think the luts were from a TH-camr named Hense..
thanks a lot, your videos are very clear and useful…
Glad it was helpful! :)
my brain just got bigger by that much... thank you! :D
So glad it was helpful!
This is super helpful! Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thanxx! BMPCC POW!
Thanks for watching! :)
You can’t just set and forget the shutter angle. If your shot involves panning or significant movement, increasing the shutter angle makes an important visual difference.
I very much disagree. There is no reason to vary from 180 unless you need to dip to 178.2 because of frequency differences from artificial light sources.
@@WillvonTagen You “very much” disagree? I guess that’s why so many productions have terribly janky panning shots…
Totally agree wtih you!!!
Will, very helpful video, picked up many tips !
Will I always appreciate your posts on BMPCC. I am a big fan of this little miracle. QC Hohem M2 Gimbal can we use? If not what gimbal you recommend. Thanks.
Great info. You mention color grading raw holds up better than prores. Is there any dynamic range differences between prores and raw? Or is the real benefit only found color grading. Would be a great video break down comparing both raw and prores differences.
Have you tried using a LiDAR Module on the original black magic camera?
No, I’m not really a fan of autofocus in general :-/
@@WillvonTagen What about something like the Tilta pocket follow focus? I’m interested in buying a BMPCC and wondering best options for pulling focus on such a small rig
Great video. But it's Dec 2022, almost 2023 now. Can this still be bought for low budget movie project as main camera. All is good about this camera when you read and see the videos. Except there are some people saying color rendition from this is not reliable all the time. With green/brown tints etc. Please guide. Thank You.
Hi! I am posting a new video tomorrow about shooting a feature with the BMPCC OG. I think it’s a great low budget option. There are no color issues if you use proper ND filters with IR cut. I have also had the film projected theatrically and the quality still holds up on and 80 Foot theatre screen. The BMCC 2.5k is also a great option with some more professional elements added. Both cameras work best when rigged out a little-and quality lenses make all the difference ;)
@@WillvonTagen btw - I just purchased the buttery luts. I had some footage with og bmpcc prores 422 HQ. (not raw). But prores 422 hq files are also big size. When I use buttery luts, results are not that great. I am not sure this is meant to color grade cinema dng raw file only?
idk if this is correct, but you can apply the same color grade to the rest of your clips at once by selecting all but the one you graded, then right click the graded clip and then click apply grade.
Thanks for the tip!
great video. but I'd respectfully disagree about one thing. Buy variable NDs are not good. They use two polarizers in order to create the darken and brighten effect for exposure. They look great on objects that are not people but if you stop down on the ND and aim the camera at a human face, it will remove all the specular highlights from the skin and the end result looks odd. all reflections and bounce light on the skin disappear and it looks dry and abnormal.
Id suggest purchasing normal NDs a .9 , 1.2 and a 2.4 to swap between.
Thanks for the tip! :)
Thanks for the video. Could you please tell me the approximate boot-up time of the camera after pressing the power button?
I would say 3-5 seconds.
Great content
Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Isn't the moire quite noticeable in raw compared to ProRes? Would you recommend fitting an anti-moire filter to the camera?
Great question.
I’ve owned this camera for 8 years now, and yes. Moire shows itself regardless, but there’s sensor artifacting moire that commonly shows up when you ghost the image, so you do have to avoid lots of direct light onto the sensor. That’s where I notice it most. Still better than the real OG quirks we used to have on this camera, like when the sun would show up as a black dot! Haha
You're the high priest of BMPCC OG. When I get rich I'm buying you a candy bar or a Cooke lens or something.
Hahaha, thanks Buddy :)
I got a little lost on why you need to export it as proxy and use a different program then bring back to resolve. 🤔
You would do this if you want to edit somewhere other than resolve. If you edit your entire project in DaVinci then there is no need to make proxies. But if you do then you will need proxies as programs like premiere cannot open the DNG raw files.
A BIG THANKS FOR THIS. GREAT JUST GREAT STUFF
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is superb information clearly shown - thank you. Does this translate to the 4k and which is better - pocket 4k at 1080p or original at 1080p?
Thanks for watching! The 4K has a different menu system but the principles are the same--though you have more forgiveness in post with the wider ISO range. I wouldn't shoot 1080 on the 4k, as it crops the sensor a considerable amount. If you need 1080 with the 4k, I would shoot natively and then downsize in post.
I’ve owned an OG pocket since 2014, and one absolutely crucial thing is you HAVE to use a UV+IR cut filter, to stress that point too that you made. It’ll prevent browning/marooning from the ND on the sensor
Only on NDs over 3 stops
@@Napoleonwilson1973 You definitely need it before that point. It’s just less extreme
@@MoreFSL I don’t get it with the lower ND filters
I really love your videos man, by chance we can see your movie from India?
Thanks for the tutorial. Does the K&F variable ND you recommend help eliminate IR pollution. I use non-variable ND's with an IR filter in front with good results. Variable ND is definitely more convenient for exposure control. I'm forced to use aperture to control exposure in my case.
Thanks for the comment and for watching! I just realized the Filter in the link was a different one from what I am currently using, so I have updated it to what I have now :) Sorry for any confusion there.
Hi
I bought this camera because of you. I have a question. I want to shoot my first docu in BW. Is it necesario to use Raw in BW ? Or ProRes LT is ok. Thanks !!!
So glad I could help! I would shoot ProRes HQ or 422 at a minimum if you aren’t shooting raw. Try to get as much quality as possible to help yourself out down the production line :)
This is great! I'd love to know what DC cable you're using. I've been looking for one shorter than 3 feet lol.
Hello Will
Thanks for a great video on the BMPCC. Just quick question/clarification. I read in the comments that you change the link to the Hoya ND filter. But I can't find anything on the Amazon site or the site of Hoya that this filter also works as an IR cut filter. Could verify that it's also working as an IR cut filter?
Thanks in advance
Hi Anders. The Hoya filter is the one I use for both my BMPCC and BMMCC and there is zero image corruption/discoloration from the ND. I’m not sure what Hoya says specifically, but I assume the IR cut is sufficient as I have used plenty of non-IR cut filters before with negative results. So you should have no problem whatsoever. 👍🏻
@@WillvonTagen Thanks - Just watched your film "Heritage" today🙂
@@WillvonTagen a relief to finally hear it straight from the source. The browning of footage with NDs has always been the achilles heel of shooting exteriors for me :) Could it be that the variable ND is made up of polarizers (not marooning) and the normal ND (marooning) is not? congrats on these key videos that have totally revamped my enthusiasm for bmpcc
Thank you for all of your videos. The link to the K&F ND filter in your description, is it an ND IR?
Thanks for watching! I just realized the Filter in the link was a different one from what I am currently using, so I have updated it to what I have now from Hoya :)
@@WillvonTagen Thx...I'm still hunting for one with IR though lol. I really love all your videos about the BMPCC. I will never sell mine!
Will! Thoughts on using ETTR exposure method in the BMPCC OG? :)
Thank you!
I think exposing to the right is great practice for this camera, which is why I set my Zebras to 100%. That usually gets me to that point in the overall exposure.
@@WillvonTagen Thank you Will!
Hey, I can't find an answer anywhere to my confusion re the colour space transform settings! I saw from various videos that CST should be applied to the final node, so the rec709 transform doesn't limit the grading potential of the RAW footage. I'd been simply changing it to rec709 in the wee camera raw decode box left of the colour wheels. Everyone seems to add CST to a final node though, so I've started doing it that way, and intuitively I've been setting CST parameters to input colour space: BM Film gen 1; Input gamma: BM design Film; output colour space: rec709; output gamma: rec709.
The image seems decent to me, with plenty of latitude to colour grade, but I've no idea if I'm using the right settings, and most of what I can find online refers to or uses the 4K or 6K settings. I'm using the OG bmpcc so just wondering if you have any knowledge or understanding of using a CST node on the OG raw footage..?
Okay, well, this is something!! Thanks a lot for this mini course! Just one question - when shooting in 25p, what degree would you recommend? Thanks a lot!
For 25p it depends on your light source. If you are using artificial lights outside of the US I would advise 172.8 degree shutter to avoid banding. If you are in the US or it’s natural light then 180 is still preferred :)
Any recommendations for a cage in 2022. You pretty much covered everything else I need as far as settings and the battery and ND but do you think I should get a cage as well?
Keep an eye on eBay for the wooden camera cages-particularly if they include the cable locks. Small rig made a knock off of it that also works well. Keep in mind the cage is more for attaching accessories over physical protection of the camera, so no need to go overboard.
Nice and usefull video, I have a question. ( sorry for my bad english because I'm from Italy)
I got BMPCC OG with Sigma art 18-35/1.8 and Viltrox speedboster.
In order to record an interview located in a house with low-light, wich is the best settings for ISO and SHUTTER ?
I use always Raw,Film,24fps and 172,8.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Bye
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Hi what is the best setting for time laps please i set the camera to 2 hours TIME LAPSE Intervals instead of time laps the video changed to slow motion in resolve thx
Hmmm. I’m not sure what setting you used, the Timelapse function will play back as a Timelapse even while the footage is still on the camera. It depends a bit how much movement is in the shot, but remember you can always speed it up more later, so sometimes the lower settings are better to start with. “1 or 2 seconds” gives good results.
Hello. Thank you for great wideo. Do you think Apple Prores is better than DNxHR 10 bit from example or other DNx if i need edit files in Adobr Premiere after export?
Is the highlight recovery tool only available if you shoot RAW?
Hi, no that is only a function of working with the raw. There may be similar filters for ProRes but they don’t work as well as the raw fix.
I have the same setup, any tips on how to add an external monitor on it?
The easiest way is with a mini Nato arm and a 5" monitor.
Hey Will, where are you located? You have a lot of footage from Germany.
Hi! I used to live in Berlin but I now live in Idaho (USA). Missing Germany, though!
Do you recommend getting that lense with DSLR magic anamorphot 40 or sirui anamorphic lense?
I really don’t. All those MFT anamorphics are a bit too long for all around use. Average viewers don’t have a clue what an anamorphic lens looks like except for the “black bars” so I think you would get more mileage and better results from spherical lenses and add the anamorphic look in post. I think it’s very, very important to be able to get wide with these cameras and 24mm isn’t a great starting point.
@@WillvonTagen so getting the dslr magic adapter on the panasonic lense is better then.
Brow, i love you !!
Hi, why 400 ISO and 800, which is the native ISO, which should have the lowest noise to DR ratio? Is there a reason? Thanks
Why would I want to use ProRes? I bought this camera for cinema DNG?
what camera do you use to film yourself when you are speaking?
Is there any reason you would recommend the 4K over the OG?
I use the BMPCC 4k to film the videos. I think the 4K is a better all around camera. Better ports. Great screen. Very usable. I think the image from the OG is more organic. I would consider it a hobby or special project camera where the 4K is what I would use for paid jobs--if that makes sense :)
@@WillvonTagen hmmm, kinda..do you think I should start off with the OG since I'm pretty new to using cameras?
QUESTION: My BPCC it’s reading my Sandisk extreme pro 128GB V30 17 MB/s card, I’m not sure where if it’s my camera not being up to date or my camera is actually broken? If anyone can explain that would be great thanks
Please take a look at my video regarding memory cards for the BMPCC OG :)
Great Video! I just have two questions, you said to shoot in 180°, but I heard from a friend that for shooting with 800 ISO and 24 FPS, the setting 172.8° is preferable, is this true? (for context, he mainly shoots with the BM 6k Pro and Arri Mini for Commercials)
And the second question is, why do you shoot in 23.98 and not 24 FPS? Does it make a noticeable difference?
This 100% depends on where you live--and I should have remembered to mention this. In Europe (and other countries that operate on different light frequencies) you want to use 172.8 when artificial light is dominant in your frame. 180 will not mesh with the European light frequencies and you will get banding in your image. In daylight it is not a problem.
In general, 180 looks better than 172.8, but again, if it means the light will ruin your image you will need 172.8 (ideally though, on a set your lights will work with 180. But normal lights won't.)
With regards to 24 vs 23.98... I almost discussed this in the video but wanted to keep it short. There is really not a big difference between the two and your results will be nearly identical, but 23.98 is industry standard and most secondary sound recorders are set to sync with 23.98. It is just closer to the academy standard of what film cameras were designed to run on when crystal synced.
Hope this answers your questions for you, thanks for watching!
@@WillvonTagen Thank you for this detailed Answer!
I will definitely try and shoot in 180° and see if there is any difference in the light meshing, as I have just bought a Studio light, so I think that it should not affect it.
In Regards to the 24 FPS, i never thought about the syncing of the sound recorders, and last time it was kinda off then I tried to sync my footage to the sound recording, so I will also definitely also try out to shoot in 23.98 and see if that solves the issue.
Thank you again, your Videos are really helping a lot, I have watched a ton of BMPCC Videos and yours are by fare the most informative and detailed!
I need help, I shoot in raw on this camera but it saves as a collection of still images, and I can't for the life of me find a way to import the images in a way that plays them as a video clip?!! Anyone know what to do?
You need to open them I DaVinci Resolve and it will assemble all the clips to play back. There is a way to do it in Premiere (see my video) but it doesn’t seem to always work depending on people’s versions of premiere. However DaVinci is free from Blackmagic and I would suggest starting there.
Thank you SO much for your very helpful response, appreciate it!!@@WillvonTagen
Hey there, been enjoying your videos on this camera. Can you tell me if the menu screens can be outputted over HDMI? Or is it just the status text and histagram? Thanks in advance :)
I’m trying to figure out how to use DaVinci Resolve on iPad with no experience, and I have some Pro Res and Raw shots opened in the media area. The ProRes videos look/play normally, but the raw videos all look like folders with images and sound files. I downloaded all the photos from one of the raw folders into the media area but it’s still just this huge series of photos. I see on the App Store it actually doesn’t list “Raw” as a supported file format, but its does say Black Magic raw (BRAW) which they apparently started after the OG. Is there some way to turn these raw image sequence files into regular videos with sound in DaVinci resolve? Wasn’t expecting it to be this complicated 😅 I’ve searched TH-cam but haven’t found the answer yet.
Thanks for sharing. How did you attach the battery holder on top of the camera? You don’t use I rig/cage I noted?
For big shoots I use a cage, but in this stripped down form the battery plat just screws into the top mount on the camera. Take a look at the small rig NPF batter adapters--they have a built in screw.
is the way i import BMPCC og in RAW the same (i recorded in RAW not prores)? do I need to do any fancy shit like selecting rec709 or something non intuitive...
I’m not sure what you mean.
Does the OG have false colour?
Yes and No. You can’t switch on false color to view on the back of the camera-but if you have a monitor with false color you can view it off the monitor with the monitor’s own settings.
@@WillvonTagensince the og only goes to 75% on zebras can you explain how to use the histogram with the og or make a video about it using this camera specifically for skin tones? I use false color on my bmpcc 4k, but it would be nice to learn to get it spot on every time with the og as well!
Had no idea that shooting RAW give me so much possibilities, for example temp change is so natural, not like in color settings where it feels like you add "mexican" filter 😄
Raw is great for sure :)
Which ND filter can you prefer?
I've tried so hard to love my OG.. but I just can't :( Hate to have to sell it, but I can't make it a usable tool for my work.
Sorry it didn't work for you :(
"95% is okay. I like to keep things at 100."
~Will von tagen
Lolol
Hi Will. For flat raw footage, what color management settings would I use for grading?
if you export to prores do you then delete your raw?
does it support 1tb sd card for raw thx
I‘ve Never tried a 1GB Card-I don’t think the Kingston Canvas Select Plus line goes to 1GB and that’s the line I trust most in the new market. However the 512GB hold a couple hours in Raw and are only about $50 each on Amazon.
Hey, nice Video! My problem is that i shoot in RAW and it plays back fine on cam, but as soon as i move the CinemaDNG files to Davinci Resolve there are missing frames…any solutions how I can fix this? I edit my footage on Mac btw
What memory cards are you using?
@@WillvonTagen I use a SanDisk Ultra 128 GB micro SDXC but I also have a Kingston Canvas Select Plus (Green) but didn’t filmed with the Kingston yet.
I tried it with the Kingston but same problem…sometimes it works and sometimes not…maybe it has something to do with the copying process from the sd to mac?
gerade angeschaut! Ich finde aber nicht die Link of the buttety LUT...
Tut mir leid, hier ist sie: www.butteryluts.com/buttery-luts/p/bmpcc-natural :)
@@WillvonTagen Danke Dir!
How to deal with moire?
Hey Will, I can't seem to get to the menu with six icons.......is because I need to update my cameras firmware, or am I just missing something? When I click the menu button I takes me to settings
Hmmmm... I am not sure why it would do that--i've never seen that before. I would definitely double check the firmware.
@@WillvonTagen ok, thanks for the input : )
I had the same problem. It disappeared after updating the firmware