Spectacular design. My brain was going 'wasn't that Raymond Loewy' but no, he was the Broadway Limited, not 20th C Limited. Both designs I didn't believe were real when I first saw drawings of them.
I know what you mean. While i prefer the dreyfuss hudson i'm hoping to get the Vanderbilt hudson for my collection. Personally i do prefer dreyfuss's design work when it came to carriages. Theres something incredibly sleek when it comes to the nyc
@@Reaper1770 Considering that both railroads bought from the same suppliers, any external differences would be in color schemes and decorations. Pullman was the main supplier, but Budd made inroads into the market.
Both of them were among the premiere industrial designers of their time. IIRC, the GE stylist who did the ALCO PA1 is also considered up there with them.
I personally prefer the look of Alco units in general, i still think the D&H Alco PA is one of the best looking locomotives. In my state of NSW. We actually mostly had alcos or alco derived locomotives. In fact its still fairly common to have alcos running around on mainline duties
@@Reaper1770 I've seen a PA1 in the Santa Fe warbonnet scheme up close at the Museum of the American Railroad in Frisco, TX (ye, named for the rialroad). It's a museum I'd recommend; among its holdings are a GG-1, a UP Big Boy, and a UP Centennial.
You're correct that they did use the niagaras aswell but the NYC was going full diesel by that time. I'll cover the niagaras in a seperate video since i do love them alot
I live outside Philadelphia so the Broadway Limited was always my way to get to Chicago. I did not get to ride till the Penn Central days so I only knew about the 20th Centenary Ltd. Via the movie and pictures of it. The Broadway Ltd was still a good train even till the end of their passenger service and till Amtrak discontinued it. I am glad I did get to ride it because Amtrak trains today are not as nice as the old trains or even at the beginning years of Amtrak.
I do wish that i could have ridden both since just to have my own thoughts on the matter. I heard that the nyc route was a bit smoother and less gradients
@@Reaper1770 Well, yeah. There was a reason the NYC advertised itself as "The Water Level Route" as opposed to the PRR's route ove and through the mountains in Pennsylvania.
Alfred Hitchcock's movie "North by Northwest" features extensive scenes of the heor's travel on the 20th Century limited. Great movie, not just for its time.
I haven't watched it actually but i'll put it on my list to watch. I've been watching some naval themed movies lately like down periscope or master and commander
Spectacular design. My brain was going 'wasn't that Raymond Loewy' but no, he was the Broadway Limited, not 20th C Limited. Both designs I didn't believe were real when I first saw drawings of them.
I know what you mean. While i prefer the dreyfuss hudson i'm hoping to get the Vanderbilt hudson for my collection. Personally i do prefer dreyfuss's design work when it came to carriages. Theres something incredibly sleek when it comes to the nyc
@@Reaper1770 Considering that both railroads bought from the same suppliers, any external differences would be in color schemes and decorations. Pullman was the main supplier, but Budd made inroads into the market.
Both of them were among the premiere industrial designers of their time. IIRC, the GE stylist who did the ALCO PA1 is also considered up there with them.
I personally prefer the look of Alco units in general, i still think the D&H Alco PA is one of the best looking locomotives. In my state of NSW. We actually mostly had alcos or alco derived locomotives. In fact its still fairly common to have alcos running around on mainline duties
@@Reaper1770 I've seen a PA1 in the Santa Fe warbonnet scheme up close at the Museum of the American Railroad in Frisco, TX (ye, named for the rialroad). It's a museum I'd recommend; among its holdings are a GG-1, a UP Big Boy, and a UP Centennial.
Wow, what humble beginnings! There are some amazing paintings of the 20th Century Limited and Broadway Limited departing- very evocative!
Completely agreed. One of my favourite is the one where they have both the 20th century and broadway racing each other
@@Reaper1770 That's exactly what I am thinking of :)
Its a brillant photo for sure.
The also iconic Niagaras played a brief role as well, and might deserve mention as well.
You're correct that they did use the niagaras aswell but the NYC was going full diesel by that time. I'll cover the niagaras in a seperate video since i do love them alot
I live outside Philadelphia so the Broadway Limited was always my way to get to Chicago. I did not get to ride till the Penn Central days so I only knew about the 20th Centenary Ltd. Via the movie and pictures of it. The Broadway Ltd was still a good train even till the end of their passenger service and till Amtrak discontinued it. I am glad I did get to ride it because Amtrak trains today are not as nice as the old trains or even at the beginning years of Amtrak.
There was a stretch of track not far out of Chicago where the NYC & PRR ran parallel and the two limited could be seen in a spirited race.
I do wish that i could have ridden both since just to have my own thoughts on the matter. I heard that the nyc route was a bit smoother and less gradients
@@Reaper1770 Well, yeah. There was a reason the NYC advertised itself as "The Water Level Route" as opposed to the PRR's route ove and through the mountains in Pennsylvania.
Alfred Hitchcock's movie "North by Northwest" features extensive scenes of the heor's travel on the 20th Century limited. Great movie, not just for its time.
I haven't watched it actually but i'll put it on my list to watch. I've been watching some naval themed movies lately like down periscope or master and commander
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE STREAMLINED HUDSONS ! I COLLECT N-SCALE !!! ANY HOPE ?
I'd be suprised if broadway doesn't do them in the future since the current vanderbilt is selling pretty well in ho scale