They had nothing to heal or shoot at besides doom, so it doesn't really matter if he's behind the sym wall, that was a good play just in case doom backs out because they were using ana's projectiles
their positioning and movement was very awkward too, on first point they put themselves in very weird spots that cut themselves off and *required* immediate peels from teammates and/or had super weird movement that didn’t disengage them from fights or fronlining when necessary
I mean, the JQ is also waiting for suzu to be used so...they props dont have the gamesense to recognize it because otherwise it can become a waiting game. i had a match where the enemy team won because their JQ won the mental against our kiri that never used her suzu waiting for the queens ult, resulting in her letting people die anyways by not saving them with her suzu so, theres that
I was honestly about to say the same thing and then I saw this comment. I see this stuff all the time in QP games, usually with Widowmakers. They always have these extremely low sensitivity settings to make it look like they're putting all this effort into aiming, but they'll just drag their cursor across peoples heads to make it look like these insane flick shots. I was reporting them all season, and the last couple of weeks of logging in I almost always get at least one of those "thank you for a report, it has lead to an action" messages you get when they catch someone. Pretty sure I got around 15-20 of them overall, so it was probably a mass ban.
Not a triggerbot. Aimbot with high smoothness. Watch 11:39 in 0.25 speed, youll see that the crosshair slows down on ml7's head. Please dont comment things like this if you have no idea what youre talking about.
@@realhuman2545 look man, I said "looks like", and both are still cheating so who cares really. Aim style is consistent with trigger, but it's possible there's also a little aim in there as well
@@Unionhawk73 Aimstyle is not consistent with trigger bot. You understand that anyone can swipe around like he does and still use an aimbot or even not use a any bot at all? A noob wouldnt reach top 500 with just a trigger bot, at that point they might aswell play without it.
It's triggerbot, the way they drag the crosshair across character's head just to hope the hack/cheat would help detect the head and shoot, see this alot in TF2 😅
just the fact they sleep darted the middle of a wall exactly where queen was behind it. Not accidentally clipping the edge of the wall, just smack in the middle of it. Maybe wallhacks can hurt more than they help sometimes lol
Maybe, but I do the same accidentally sometimes. I hit sleep, but they start going behind a wall and my brain automatically predicts their new location even though it's behind something. That alone isn't enough to call cheats.
@@realhuman2545 It's a trigger bot. An aimbot won't make big horizontal sweeps across their head level and shoot at the right moment. That's what a trigger bot does.
@@WIGEEMAN99 No... An aimbot. Im actually facepalming at how clueless everyone is. With a trigger bot you would actually still need to aim, which he doesnt - because he uses an aimbot (that he presses every time he shoots to not look sus).
The swiping motion of aim was actually super strong on console, Because the aim would slow for a window while passing over their head even kinda sticking for like 1/10th of a second. So if you got good at it you can reproduce what I used to call "Console flicks". It's more logically going to be a trigger bot, but honestly it could be one of the ego stoking cheats that makes you do 60% of the work to help you feel better about winning.
@@samhamwich518 Agreed, I would say low masters probably because he had some good ideas and decisions, just lacking the mechanics (or not because he cheats). A plat in a gm lobby usually looks like a headless chicken, u can tell by the way they move.
@@niki-su2kr You can use either separately, cheats usually comes as menus or key binds. Walls alone won't get you banned, it's the terribly coded aimbots in these free cheats.
@@mycelia_ow you're saying walls are harder to detect? like the aimbot coding is easier to find from an anticheat view separate from the cheat program as a whole?
@@mentarium Yeah, for walls a program just needs to read the game memory from your RAM. It reads player locations, etc. and puts it on your screen. Editing this memory is where anti-cheats get alarmed. This is needed for aimbots and certain other cheats. _Writing_ to memory is almost never happening naturally so it's easy to see it happen. A lot of stuff can be _reading_ memory though, and do so discreetly. A cheat reads the player info and displays it on your screen and the engine has no idea. The second a cheat tries editing this data is where it gets tricky for cheat creators to hide this. Free cheats are hit or miss since the most effort is not put into them, obv since they're free to use.
@@mycelia_ow that's actually pretty cool. so the fight between anticheat and cheat developers is the devs trying to hide the edits better than the anticheat can detect? way more goes into this than i woudl have thought
we've seen this name a lot in top500 lobbies as like secondary accounts (or maybe its just one guy idk) but maybe its someone who used the same battle tag to not get reported tricking people to think they are the "prout qui pue" guy in top gm1 lobbies Or its simply one guy who has been "legit hacking" for weeks without anyone noticing
When our cheater went Kiri, triggerbot for sure, which is why it looks like they're Rein swinging when they fire and nearly perfectly hitting their targets from mid to close range. When they were Ana, walling simply because they seemingly know where to be at odd moments of the fight and on that one instance where they were kind of tracking someone from behind the wall at a distance. But overall, shit game sense, never takes cover, self panic suzu when they take 1 hit, no team utility, toxic towards their own teammates (which frankly never motivates anyone to do better). There are no amount of cheats that can help that.
10:57 I do this as well, tbh, i hit a very low amount of shots far range when i do it but i only really do it when they are near me and i did hit some nasty head shots doing so last time i played.
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I personally think if the game suspects someone of cheating they should have the damage reflect and if it continues they get banned. Yeah sure it's not a good system but imagine how funny it'd be hearing someone who started hacking screaming in voice "HOW AM I GETTING HURT THEY ARENT HITTING ME, THEYRE BAD"
genuinely! I don't understand why people do it because for me, the thrill of winning is being better than the opponent, proving that I was better than them. but cheating is expressly admitting that you're not good enough, that you don't think you can be good enough, and every victory is hollow and meaningless because you don't deserve to win. it's not a fair fight. I don't understand why meaningless victories are satisfying to any degree to some people. I genuinely don't see the appeal.
cant be the only one finding it easier to aim as ana when having nano ready maybe because im just used to having something on my teammates while playing on kiriko and mercy 😅
not true.. i run across a Cheeto at least once every 2 days. For a while it seemed that the anti-cheat was broken but at the start of last season it seems to just be fixed and working so a lot more autobans have been happening.
Honestly cheats are getting so good. There may be tons of people with walls on and you'd never know. Online shooters are fucked. Cheats are just going to get better and better
It is quite pathetic for a player to be in Top 100 with aim bot (or whatever that was) and cheating. Be in the rank you belong, you are able to play and deserve to be.
i love how his imidiat reaction is to assume it was either hanzo or echo not the headshot only kiriko that shows how strongs suport is that even cheating people think its normal
The funny part about cheating but trying to hide it is that you learn how to play at a high level and will understand better positioning tactics etc for when you grind legit. Like in real life, you become/adapt to your surroundings, but if you're bronze then playing with other bronze players wont prepare you and only serve to reinforce bad habits. The irony of cheating eh, hope these losers get banned. Atleast bronze players know how to have fun with their spare time
"The system is working" ... I got banned for "using thrird party tools that promote cheating" or some shit like that while i leveld a twink acc in qp. Obvsly i didn't cheat and remain with a banned acc, even after emailing blizzard... thanks for that.
The suzu at 11:11 didn't look GM, especially when queen had her ult. Also, at 9:05 she was trying to heal the Doom through Symetra's wall.
Good eye I didn’t notice the symm wall one but you’d think a GM Kiriko would know to save suzu for JQ ult
They had nothing to heal or shoot at besides doom, so it doesn't really matter if he's behind the sym wall, that was a good play just in case doom backs out because they were using ana's projectiles
and yes the suzus were extremely wasteful, but even top 10 players waste suzus l, for example ml7 wastes alot of suzus every time he plays kiriko
their positioning and movement was very awkward too, on first point they put themselves in very weird spots that cut themselves off and *required* immediate peels from teammates and/or had super weird movement that didn’t disengage them from fights or fronlining when necessary
I mean, the JQ is also waiting for suzu to be used so...they props dont have the gamesense to recognize it because otherwise it can become a waiting game. i had a match where the enemy team won because their JQ won the mental against our kiri that never used her suzu waiting for the queens ult, resulting in her letting people die anyways by not saving them with her suzu so, theres that
How funny the cheater is the one who was chatting saying “ rlly interesting lobby “ @ 4:00 prolly interesting cause they whooped him with cheats on 😭😭
Lmao literally, as if their positioning wasn’t awful in general yet alone for GM1
Yeah looks like trigger bot and walls based on the huge overflicks. And the number of times they tped two feet in grandmaster 1.
I was honestly about to say the same thing and then I saw this comment. I see this stuff all the time in QP games, usually with Widowmakers. They always have these extremely low sensitivity settings to make it look like they're putting all this effort into aiming, but they'll just drag their cursor across peoples heads to make it look like these insane flick shots. I was reporting them all season, and the last couple of weeks of logging in I almost always get at least one of those "thank you for a report, it has lead to an action" messages you get when they catch someone. Pretty sure I got around 15-20 of them overall, so it was probably a mass ban.
Not a triggerbot. Aimbot with high smoothness. Watch 11:39 in 0.25 speed, youll see that the crosshair slows down on ml7's head. Please dont comment things like this if you have no idea what youre talking about.
@@realhuman2545 look man, I said "looks like", and both are still cheating so who cares really. Aim style is consistent with trigger, but it's possible there's also a little aim in there as well
@@Unionhawk73 Aimstyle is not consistent with trigger bot. You understand that anyone can swipe around like he does and still use an aimbot or even not use a any bot at all? A noob wouldnt reach top 500 with just a trigger bot, at that point they might aswell play without it.
wanted to write the same :)
those sleeps were atrocious like, I can do better and im trash ...
It's triggerbot, the way they drag the crosshair across character's head just to hope the hack/cheat would help detect the head and shoot, see this alot in TF2 😅
Ml7 beat a cheater without knowing they were cheating , Respect
just the fact they sleep darted the middle of a wall exactly where queen was behind it. Not accidentally clipping the edge of the wall, just smack in the middle of it. Maybe wallhacks can hurt more than they help sometimes lol
Maybe, but I do the same accidentally sometimes. I hit sleep, but they start going behind a wall and my brain automatically predicts their new location even though it's behind something. That alone isn't enough to call cheats.
Definitely just a triggerbot. The Kiriko flicks make it painfully obvious.
no its not a trigger bot... its just aimbot with high smoothness
@@realhuman2545 It's a trigger bot. An aimbot won't make big horizontal sweeps across their head level and shoot at the right moment. That's what a trigger bot does.
Youre completely clueless lmao.
He makes the sweeps then presses his aimkey while close to the enemy. Its extremely easy to tell this is an aimbot.
@@realhuman2545 So in other words, a manual triggerbot. Such a thing would be pointless. It's just a triggerbot lmao.
@@WIGEEMAN99 No... An aimbot. Im actually facepalming at how clueless everyone is. With a trigger bot you would actually still need to aim, which he doesnt - because he uses an aimbot (that he presses every time he shoots to not look sus).
For non french speakers, Proutquipue (Prout qui pue) means "Fart who stinks". My pleasure.
Just to let you guys know the cheater's name means "Fart that smells bad", you're welcome.
Yep, shit a** name
Very important and valuable information, thank you for that!
@@RubelliteIsHere you're welcome.
can someone hand me the brain bleach? I need to clean my memory of something, thanks
@@sethescope whaat ??
The swiping motion of aim was actually super strong on console, Because the aim would slow for a window while passing over their head even kinda sticking for like 1/10th of a second. So if you got good at it you can reproduce what I used to call "Console flicks". It's more logically going to be a trigger bot, but honestly it could be one of the ego stoking cheats that makes you do 60% of the work to help you feel better about winning.
0:41 Olaf bringing balance to the force, now lets play with the mouse
10:39 this how I aim on controller 😳
Its for sure just a plat cheating, the positioning and using all their cooldowns to get into the fight was terrible
Kinda looks like a diamond or low master player just because they weren’t totally lost all the time
@@samhamwich518 Agreed, I would say low masters probably because he had some good ideas and decisions, just lacking the mechanics (or not because he cheats). A plat in a gm lobby usually looks like a headless chicken, u can tell by the way they move.
@@SherryDCnah no shot you think this man is above plat
@@cooltwittertaghe likely is. Have you ever actually seen plat supports? They're clueless even in their own rank. This guy is probably high diamond.
No cheater ever stops at just walls. If you had any sense of modesty, you wouldn't be cheating in the first place.
yeah and walls usually come as a package with aim as well, u dont get 1 without the other
@@niki-su2kr You can use either separately, cheats usually comes as menus or key binds. Walls alone won't get you banned, it's the terribly coded aimbots in these free cheats.
@@mycelia_ow you're saying walls are harder to detect? like the aimbot coding is easier to find from an anticheat view separate from the cheat program as a whole?
@@mentarium Yeah, for walls a program just needs to read the game memory from your RAM. It reads player locations, etc. and puts it on your screen.
Editing this memory is where anti-cheats get alarmed. This is needed for aimbots and certain other cheats.
_Writing_ to memory is almost never happening naturally so it's easy to see it happen.
A lot of stuff can be _reading_ memory though, and do so discreetly. A cheat reads the player info and displays it on your screen and the engine has no idea.
The second a cheat tries editing this data is where it gets tricky for cheat creators to hide this. Free cheats are hit or miss since the most effort is not put into them, obv since they're free to use.
@@mycelia_ow that's actually pretty cool. so the fight between anticheat and cheat developers is the devs trying to hide the edits better than the anticheat can detect? way more goes into this than i woudl have thought
Imagine cheating but still losing
I mean they were stupid enough for continuesly trying to shoot through symm walls lol
we've seen this name a lot in top500 lobbies as like secondary accounts (or maybe its just one guy idk) but maybe its someone who used the same battle tag to not get reported tricking people to think they are the "prout qui pue" guy in top gm1 lobbies
Or its simply one guy who has been "legit hacking" for weeks without anyone noticing
bruh the owl photos when you're spamming "Whooooo?"...I'm dead.
That has to be a trigger bot with the way they just glide their mouse over you rapidly, like they’re playing Fruit Ninja.
This video reminded me that I haven’t seen a cheater in my games in a rlly long time
When our cheater went Kiri, triggerbot for sure, which is why it looks like they're Rein swinging when they fire and nearly perfectly hitting their targets from mid to close range. When they were Ana, walling simply because they seemingly know where to be at odd moments of the fight and on that one instance where they were kind of tracking someone from behind the wall at a distance.
But overall, shit game sense, never takes cover, self panic suzu when they take 1 hit, no team utility, toxic towards their own teammates (which frankly never motivates anyone to do better). There are no amount of cheats that can help that.
10:57 I do this as well, tbh, i hit a very low amount of shots far range when i do it but i only really do it when they are near me and i did hit some nasty head shots doing so last time i played.
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At 11:21, watch their suzu reset its cooldown from 6 seconds to 0. IDK if that"s a bug, or one of the cheats they had.
I love it when streamer's kitties make themselves known.
i like the valorant tp sound effects
taking 8mins to get to the actual spectating is kinda criminal lmao
10:32 kind of how arrge flicks ngl 😂
Walls seem likely, also probably a trigger bot type thing. Positioning was as bad as I am lol. Definitely didn't "look" like GM gameplay.
I personally think if the game suspects someone of cheating they should have the damage reflect and if it continues they get banned. Yeah sure it's not a good system but imagine how funny it'd be hearing someone who started hacking screaming in voice "HOW AM I GETTING HURT THEY ARENT HITTING ME, THEYRE BAD"
the ana is very obvious just from the fact she never stops hitting anything as long as their not behind a wall lol
i'm not an expert, but seems like a trigger bot.
you move your mouse normally and the bot shoots for you.
We used to aim like that with a controller on call of duty sniper flash scope only
you can tell its a low elo player homie looking at the ground 24/7 so def had hacks
Lol people just be doubting to doubt. Walls were clear on first team fight, trigger bot became obvious on Kiri.
Bro thinks he's JohnnyG 💀
I will never understand cheaters. Just admit you suck and move on
genuinely! I don't understand why people do it because for me, the thrill of winning is being better than the opponent, proving that I was better than them. but cheating is expressly admitting that you're not good enough, that you don't think you can be good enough, and every victory is hollow and meaningless because you don't deserve to win. it's not a fair fight. I don't understand why meaningless victories are satisfying to any degree to some people. I genuinely don't see the appeal.
cant be the only one finding it easier to aim as ana when having nano ready maybe because im just used to having something on my teammates while playing on kiriko and mercy 😅
I actually forgot that people can cheat in this game, people just stopped cheating LOL
not true.. i run across a Cheeto at least once every 2 days. For a while it seemed that the anti-cheat was broken but at the start of last season it seems to just be fixed and working so a lot more autobans have been happening.
as a ow pleb watching this is crazy
Walls yes, aim maby yes maby no. It looks strange tho 😂. If never aim that way😅
The snaps are so unnatural, I'm a low rank kiri an even I see that...ana wasn't as noticeable but like the kiri is ridiculous
BTW their nickname in french means Stinky Fart
Looks like they used a trigger bot mainly and occasionally could of been slight aimbot. Trigger bot was easiest to see
10:19 i can't be the only one hearing the moaning in the background
for a sec i thought it was johnny g
The legend
Honestly cheats are getting so good. There may be tons of people with walls on and you'd never know. Online shooters are fucked. Cheats are just going to get better and better
my brother in christ couldn't hit a single sleep dart what the fuck he doing in top100 💀
+1 for Proutquipue who means in french Fart who smells bad
cheeto :O
Just a guess, I think the Overwatch game needs a mini-map that reveals the terrain and the nearest existing half.
the thing that give him away is the cheater positioning like i would myself. im gold, lol
Haha instabanned and the game ends. Damn. Also mL7 just exposed themselves as an owl
Olaf wants cuddles. Cuddle Olaf.
While I go get breakfast.
Nothing about how that play plays suggests they're GM level.
Cheater's name mean "fart that smells bad" in french. So definitively not a top 100 player.
I’m not trash…. I’m just not cheating !!!!!
Bingo
this is scary bc even with rewatch it looks like terrible player without cheats
If you beat a cheater the match doesn’t count?
Who the f**k cheats as a Support bro...?
Pog!
ProutQuiPue = Fart that smell bad... Not sure if i'm proud to be french in this case
It is quite pathetic for a player to be in Top 100 with aim bot (or whatever that was) and cheating. Be in the rank you belong, you are able to play and deserve to be.
Their suzus were terrible lol
Dude made a really dumb choice flanking ML7 twice, the fastest way to get caught is cheating in a streamer's game.
im more surprised when i dont have a cheater in my games.
i love how his imidiat reaction is to assume it was either hanzo or echo not the headshot only kiriko that shows how strongs suport is that even cheating people think its normal
No ،this isn’t hake, this is ow2 system,me I was playing genji when I got banned for this, what a terrible game
Chazm got banned for cheating as well, so I do have some doubts whenever someone gets banned for cheating.
And they were gging at the end of that game. People are so sad, man... like not annoying or bad or stupid... just sad...
Cheater or not, this guy's name is French for "fart that stink". Why do i still wonder why my country's players are not much respected ? -_-
we respect poko. and benbest is a decent tank (if he even still plays. he was when he did play)
It looks like auto clicker
When the game detects a cheater, it should award the winning team if the cheater was in the losing team D:
So much dicking around to get to the point...
Isn’t kittys name “Olive?” I didn’t think it was Olaf
It’s Olaf
first
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The funny part about cheating but trying to hide it is that you learn how to play at a high level and will understand better positioning tactics etc for when you grind legit. Like in real life, you become/adapt to your surroundings, but if you're bronze then playing with other bronze players wont prepare you and only serve to reinforce bad habits. The irony of cheating eh, hope these losers get banned. Atleast bronze players know how to have fun with their spare time
"The system is working" ... I got banned for "using thrird party tools that promote cheating" or some shit like that while i leveld a twink acc in qp. Obvsly i didn't cheat and remain with a banned acc, even after emailing blizzard... thanks for that.