I actually commute on tubular tires and I have a few tips to share. 1)a lot of tubulars have removable valve cores. There's a tool that helps you remove them so you can put sealants like Slime in them, however, It can also be done without removing the core. It pays dividends to put slime in your tubulars now. 2) always carry Slime and a hand pump with you. Hopefully your flat is a pin hole, which is easily sealable. 3) clean your treads with vinegar. It keeps the sharp pebbles from really sticking in and doing serious damage on the subsequent revolutions. 4) consider acquiring multiple tubular wheelsets. This is where vintage 6speeds shine, there are a lot of people who want to get rid of their vintage mavic/fir/nisi/fiamme 6 speed wheelsets for cheap. This way, you can have ready to go wheels when something really catastrophic happens, and repair the busted tube on a later date. Also don't forget to put slime in your spare wheelsets.
No mention if they put new tubulars on stretcher rims and inflate them days prior to make mounting easier. How much air goes in tire prior to mounting? No gloves, if rim & tire are sticky, how does mechanic prevent getting glue on rim, sidewall and his hands? What is best solvent for taking glue off if you overglue sidewall or rims? Details please!
“And then you recoat that (the wheel) and stick that (the tyre) on (to the wheel)” is what I believe he says at 1:43 where Simon decides to talk over him. So three coats on the rim each allowed to dry and one on the tyre allowed to dry, then one coat on the rim and stick the tyre straight on while the fourth layer of glue is still wet.
I'd love you guys to do a video discussing the pro's and con's of Tubular vs Clinchers. It seems the cycling enthusiast often do things the way the pro's do it, even at exorbitant expense. Except tires. I don't know a single rider who still rides tubular, even when their bike is otherwise spared no expense.
Bruce Milligan I use clincher for training and tubulars for racing. Corners better, rolls faster. Okay not very much but it does. It has a almost perfekt circular crossection and this feels just better in racing. Plus, I would not buy a carbon rim for clinchers.
Bruce Milligan i also train with tubs. Now it's almost 15k km without a single flat! So i never needed a support car. Whats the difference between having flat in tubular (you can try to use sealant, it usually works) and having two flats with only one spare tube for clincher?
Always remember to pre stretch the tubular for at least a day also.This will make it much easier to mount. Use an old tubular rim and inflate to high pressure and leave it. Then follow the video. ☺️
I've used tub tape for many years and not a single issue. Its also a LOT less hassle. I found standard beaded tyres are better for everyday use and a lot cleaner and easier to fit. This convenience turned me away from using tubular/tubeless tyres.
I used tubs all the time for racing and training and you NEVER put the glue on first , after a layer of glue was on the rim for a couple of days left to dry you put the brand new tub on and only then put a little presure in the tyre then roll the tub off the side of the rim without it slipping off then apply the glue to the rim and tub at the same time then let the tyre seat back on the rim and work your way round the wheel, no mess on sidewall or fingers, inflate to desired presure leave for a day then ride them, I NEVER had a tub roll off in all temperatures I rode them in Belgium in very hot one day races on criterium circuits with fast tight corners and had no problems at all, so very surprised at the so called expert mechanics methods and you still see tubs rolling off in the Tour!
TOP TIP: if you live some were very hot put the glue tube/tinin a plastic bag and put it in the frige this will help stop the glue turning into chewing gum by the time you half way round the rim
I was really hoping to have pointers on how to straighten the tire on the rim. The rest seems simple to me. Some waves in the tires can be hard to get rid of sometimes.
Really helpful. At 0:55 they don't seem to bother avoiding the spoke holes with the brush. Other than that this is the technique I have been using except I put 2 layers of dry glue then the wet layer.
Tip for peoplen who like tubulars but not the glueing part, tufo cs 33 pro tubular clincher tyres fit on clincher rims... Advantages of tubulars with the relative easy of clinchers in mounting and removing it from the rim. Another thing, is the mavic cosmic elite I see in the vid a clincher or tubular?
could be cool to see several pro mechanics gluing tubs to see some different techniques....although the non-bike nerds might think that is dull viewing
The bit I find difficult is actually putting the tub onto the rim. It gives me a headache doing that bit as the tires are so tight. The mechanic didnt mention maturing the tyre before gluing...
+Andrew Stevenson yes. They actually have pre stretched tyres on old tubular rims in their mechanics truck. If you do have an old tub wheel/rim, it's a good idea to pre-stretch a little. Also, cycling mechanics must have the strongest thumbs and hands with the amount of tubs they glue.
in relation to a previous Dan video about using grass when there are no more inner tubes ... is he going to make a new one wherein a tube of pritt stick, a packet of blue-tack or a roll of double sided tape is used?
Did I hear him say that cleans the glue area of the tub with a file? Could you provide more information, such as what type of file, and what you are removing? thanks
How much time to wait after the last coat on the rim and the first coat on the tire to finally put the tire? I understood the 2 days for 3 coats on the rim. But it's not clear how much time we have to wait after the last coat on both sides.
Does the argument for glue over tape still holds if you’re using disc break wheels, where the wheels won’t reach as high temperatures during decent and breaking??
Love the videos! I just got a set of FFWD F4R used. Its got the tube on there already and in good condition. Is there a good wheel youd recommend? Putting it on a 2009 Specialized tarmac SL 58cm! Thanks!
Just trying to understand what this is. If I'm 25 miles out on a weekend ride and I get a flat? So, I pull out the glue and sandpaper? Or, do I just pull out my trusty spare tube and be on my way?
jj higgs The tire is sewn around the tube. Your trusty spare tube will do nothing for you. You either carry a spare whole tire, pre-glued, probably folded up under the saddle, or you carry a can of Vittoria Pitstop or something similar. Or you call someone you know will drive out to get you. Or you walk forever and ever. The sandpaper is only for new rims.
Just to be clear: "Tube" should refer to the inner tube in a clincher. "Tub" refers to tubular tires (also called "sew-ups" because they're basically a clincher with the inner tube literally sewn together at the bead). So when you're riding tubs, you have a spare that's been preglued stuffed up under your saddle or whatever. If you used sealant and it doesn't seal a puncture, you stop and peel off the flat (bring some plastic tire levers too) and just stick the spare on. The glue will be good enough to get you home.
Nobody ever mentions anything about a little hump once the tyre is mounted where the valve is. When mounting, you need to put all your strength at the beginning so the tire is nice and flat around the valve. (Also pre-stretching for a few days is essential)
I have been given quite an old single speed bike and I used to mountain bike. I would really like to get back into cycling and go onto Road Biking. I started training today and hit 10.9km in 28:43 with the old bike. Im only 15 and do not have the means to buy a super expensive road bike so I was quite interested in gradually replacing parts on the bike periodically to create a good road bike. Is this feasible? For example,next week I am going to replace the over hand break levers for uphill climbing as I only have one brake lever working at the moment. I don't even have a helmet as they are too expensive for me. My birthday is in 5 days and I'm hoping to replace some bike levers, get a proper helmet and re-wrap the handlebars as I took them off today as they were extremely old, (5+ years). I would really appreciate any help that I receive and I would be extremely appreciative if someone could get in contact with me about helping me on my road bike journey. Love the great tips and tricks GCN and hope everyone has a good day! Kind Regards, Q
depends what you willing to spend on upgrades as sometimes it is cheaper to buy a good road bike I am building a bike for £3k that is as good or better than a £8.8k bike from quest adventure but building from parts and sram red 22, my mountain bike I spent £400 for full suspension and discs and that was main upgrades since I got it like in 2007 I think
So if I understood correctly. 4 coats on the rim and 1 on the tire, wait for them to dry than just place the tire on the rim? I have been placing the tub on the wheel while it still wet.
I can't understand the most important part for me: what is he saying about the glue on the rim vs the tire. Do they put "dry" tire on the "wet" rim? Most of the wheel manufacturers recommend putting fresh glue on both before mounting the tire, which is really messy. Could anyone please make a transcription of that part(from 1:58)? Thanks.
+Nick Kukoreko No my friend. It's clear. The 4th coat on the rim and the only coat on the tire are soak. They need to be sticky. So they are a little wet. What was not clear is the ammount of time you have to wait aftar that last coat on both sides (rim and tire) to finally put the tire.
So, still not clear to me. Put two layers of glue on rim that are let dry for a day or so each. One layer on tyre which is also let dry. Then on the day of fitting the tyre, one fresh layer of glue on both rim and tyre, and then fit together? or only a fresh coat on the rim?
Fernando Jimenez I would do just fresh coat on the rim. It's easy enough to move the tire around when it's like that. Just make sure you inflate it a bit (just under 20psi) to give it some shape before you put it on the rim.
Guys please share the most important information that is what is best solvent for taking glue off. And please don´t tell it is Acetone it takes ages to remove one layer of glue, I cannot imagine to be possible to remove 3 without spending a week worth of training on it...
Péricles Moreira Years ago when I raced on tubs, I used gasoline to clean the rims of glue. Not sure if that's wise, but that is what I did. Worked well, but on carbon? not sure
khlash you don't really. Some people offer tubular repairs, but it's really a dying art. Some tubulars can be repaired using latex (the stuff used to seal tubeless tyres), but this is really restricted to the models that are tubeless and Tufo are the only manufacturer I know doing that. A couple of brands offer quick sealants (combination of latex, foam and CO2) that can be used if you puncture a tub out on the road. I'm really not sure how permanent solutions like this are, though.
...and to be assured that you sew everything backup straight, you should match original holes with each other, and that means you should mark each hole and their corresponding hole (or mark every other hole). Otherwise, your sewing job will likely result in a kink and tire is now junk
There is a video I keep deferring to make, got it down to a science. Good tubulars get flats rarely (on good roads had 1 flat in 20,000 kms with Veloflex). On chippy roads, more often. Worth doing on an expensive tyre with less than 50% wear. However, the key is: sharp knife, leather sewing kit, patch kit and epoxy/welbound. Open surgically the casing, 2-3 inches?, pull the latex, ensure there is one and not two holes. Patch, put the latex under the foot of a chair. Them using the leather kit, you can pre-drill holes at 5mm interval, use the thick needle and cord to saw it back. When done, add a layer of epoxy/welbound. It solidifies the casing and new sutures. Next day it is as good as new. Used it on rear tyres, front tyre. Avoid inserting Stan's sealer for a while, as it may loosen the patch. Work time? 30 min.....
***** Or just stick a spare tub in your pocket like you would an inner tube. It's really not that big a deal. Plus tubular wheelsets are lighter than their clincher counterparts. And tubs are much much better than clinchers in terms of performance and comfort. Give it a try!
I was just trying to dispel this myth that tubs are only for pros with support cars - not the case. Maintenance really isn't that difficult. If you have the dosh and want the best performance (if you race for example), then tubs are the way to go. In terms of an everyday wheelset though, I'd still go with a sturdy alu. Campa Shamal Mille for example
Rob Wood what? I started doing it myself. Took a long time to clean rim. But maybe should not have bothered. Glueing on was easy. My back wheel i have an old tire withe some glue but no new glue. It's fine. Diy
***** Hey mate, I don't get the part with the scotch pad. What I did to my last removal: Remove tub, Rub with acetone / rag to get glue off, sand -> reglue.
***** Initially mentioned method is no different than what I do at home. Cut the tub, scotch pad, acetone+goo gone and rub like hell. Use of wire brush on your second comment sounds interesting but I would never dare to do that on carbon wheels.
Ok I will ask the idiot question ... why would you want to glue the innertube to the rim? And what do you do if you have a puncture out on a ride too big to just patch?
3Vimages That's not an idiot question at all. A tubular tyre is different from a normal tyre in that it is completely enclosed, the inner tube is literally sewn inside it. The reason it's preferred by road racers is that it "feels" nicer on the road, has less rolling resistance, and is a bit lighter. And you can't repair punctures, the whole, very expensive, tyre gets thrown out.
Having seen that, as a regular rider in the UK I would never consider tubs- what a total pain in the butt to fit and use over clinchers! Something really only suitable for pro teams clearly.
So does that mean if i get a puncture on a tubler tyre i have to wait 2 days before i can ride my bike again?? fuck this clinchers are the best repair and ride straight away,
How do GCN manage to make EVERY SINGLE ONE of their video's almost useless and uninformative. Not watched one for ages and thought i'd see what tips for tubs there were on YT....... till next time I forget how crappy GCN are .. Like oters have stated... wheres the detail ? how is he putting glued tubs on like theres no glue on ? pre stretch ? etc...
I actually commute on tubular tires and I have a few tips to share.
1)a lot of tubulars have removable valve cores. There's a tool that helps you remove them so you can put sealants like Slime in them, however, It can also be done without removing the core. It pays dividends to put slime in your tubulars now.
2) always carry Slime and a hand pump with you. Hopefully your flat is a pin hole, which is easily sealable.
3) clean your treads with vinegar. It keeps the sharp pebbles from really sticking in and doing serious damage on the subsequent revolutions.
4) consider acquiring multiple tubular wheelsets. This is where vintage 6speeds shine, there are a lot of people who want to get rid of their vintage mavic/fir/nisi/fiamme 6 speed wheelsets for cheap. This way, you can have ready to go wheels when something really catastrophic happens, and repair the busted tube on a later date. Also don't forget to put slime in your spare wheelsets.
No mention if they put new tubulars on stretcher rims and inflate them days prior to make mounting easier. How much air goes in tire prior to mounting? No gloves, if rim & tire are sticky, how does mechanic prevent getting glue on rim, sidewall and his hands? What is best solvent for taking glue off if you overglue sidewall or rims? Details please!
“And then you recoat that (the wheel) and stick that (the tyre) on (to the wheel)” is what I believe he says at 1:43 where Simon decides to talk over him. So three coats on the rim each allowed to dry and one on the tyre allowed to dry, then one coat on the rim and stick the tyre straight on while the fourth layer of glue is still wet.
an interviewer never fails to interrupt when the interviewee is saying the most important part.
wish they would have showed the glue they were using lol
That mechanic is a legend. Can he have a weekly spot?
traderz13 Absolutely!
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I'd love you guys to do a video discussing the pro's and con's of Tubular vs Clinchers. It seems the cycling enthusiast often do things the way the pro's do it, even at exorbitant expense. Except tires. I don't know a single rider who still rides tubular, even when their bike is otherwise spared no expense.
Bruce Milligan i do and many of my friends
***** Interesting. Why do you and your friends choose tubular over Clincher ?
Bruce Milligan I use clincher for training and tubulars for racing. Corners better, rolls faster. Okay not very much but it does. It has a almost perfekt circular crossection and this feels just better in racing. Plus, I would not buy a carbon rim for clinchers.
Bruce Milligan i also train with tubs. Now it's almost 15k km without a single flat! So i never needed a support car. Whats the difference between having flat in tubular (you can try to use sealant, it usually works) and having two flats with only one spare tube for clincher?
***** Tie a knot in the inner tube for the second puncture! ;-)
Always remember to pre stretch the tubular for at least a day also.This will make it much easier to mount. Use an old tubular rim and inflate to high pressure and leave it. Then follow the video. ☺️
I dream of tubs going on that easy at 2:26
Challenge tubs give me aneurysms.
A good stretched tubular would do this. The thing to do, to avoid glue on the sides of the tubular, is to actually inflate them to around 3-4 bars.
Mavic tubulars , vittoria tubulars are really soft. Continental tubulars are hardcore to set up, german mindset 🤣
Expert leaving many details out
Finally!!! I have been waiting for this video. Also how much weight relative to a clincher does adding 4 coats of glue add to the rim weight??
I've used tub tape for many years and not a single issue. Its also a LOT less hassle.
I found standard beaded tyres are better for everyday use and a lot cleaner and easier to fit. This convenience turned me away from using tubular/tubeless tyres.
Can’t beat tubeless tires 🤷🏼♂️
I used tubs all the time for racing and training and you NEVER put the glue on first , after a layer of glue was on the rim for a couple of days left to dry you put the brand new tub on and only then put a little presure in the tyre then roll the tub off the side of the rim without it slipping off then apply the glue to the rim and tub at the same time then let the tyre seat back on the rim and work your way round the wheel, no mess on sidewall or fingers, inflate to desired presure leave for a day then ride them, I NEVER had a tub roll off in all temperatures I rode them in Belgium in very hot one day races on criterium circuits with fast tight corners and had no problems at all, so very surprised at the so called expert mechanics methods and you still see tubs rolling off in the Tour!
We need a instructional video, please! :D
Alan Butler what a legend. Get him a weekly spot!
Lances old mechanic, bet he has a book or two in him!
TOP TIP: if you live some were very hot put the glue tube/tinin a plastic bag and put it in the frige this will help stop the glue turning into chewing gum by the time you half way round the rim
Wow! This is new CCU (wide rim profile version)!
we normal cyclists have to change tubular tyre somewhere beside road. without support car and mechanic. that's why I use tapes.
I was really hoping to have pointers on how to straighten the tire on the rim. The rest seems simple to me. Some waves in the tires can be hard to get rid of sometimes.
Really helpful. At 0:55 they don't seem to bother avoiding the spoke holes with the brush. Other than that this is the technique I have been using except I put 2 layers of dry glue then the wet layer.
Tip for peoplen who like tubulars but not the glueing part, tufo cs 33 pro tubular clincher tyres fit on clincher rims... Advantages of tubulars with the relative easy of clinchers in mounting and removing it from the rim.
Another thing, is the mavic cosmic elite I see in the vid a clincher or tubular?
I have glued my tyres the day before race many times :)
Interesting to hear a local Derbyshire accent!! I was expecting a French or Italian guy not a local lol!! Respect to Alan.
could be cool to see several pro mechanics gluing tubs to see some different techniques....although the non-bike nerds might think that is dull viewing
Sellotape and blue tac works fine for me :p
awsome video from a legend. But what are the guy in the background doing? looks like he is rubbing the brake surface with sand paper?
The bit I find difficult is actually putting the tub onto the rim. It gives me a headache doing that bit as the tires are so tight. The mechanic didnt mention maturing the tyre before gluing...
+Andrew Stevenson yes. They actually have pre stretched tyres on old tubular rims in their mechanics truck. If you do have an old tub wheel/rim, it's a good idea to pre-stretch a little. Also, cycling mechanics must have the strongest thumbs and hands with the amount of tubs they glue.
in relation to a previous Dan video about using grass when there are no more inner tubes ... is he going to make a new one wherein a tube of pritt stick, a packet of blue-tack or a roll of double sided tape is used?
great instaling sir
Did I hear him say that cleans the glue area of the tub with a file? Could you provide more information, such as what type of file, and what you are removing? thanks
Are all those layers of glue necessary with disc brakes?
Living and learning!
How much time to wait after the last coat on the rim and the first coat on the tire to finally put the tire? I understood the 2 days for 3 coats on the rim. But it's not clear how much time we have to wait after the last coat on both sides.
When will this video be out in English ???
these tubular tyres, are they good for everyday riding?
Does the argument for glue over tape still holds if you’re using disc break wheels, where the wheels won’t reach as high temperatures during decent and breaking??
Many thanks for advice :)
Thanks for this
That guy is so nice!
Love the videos! I just got a set of FFWD F4R used. Its got the tube on there already and in good condition. Is there a good wheel youd recommend? Putting it on a 2009 Specialized tarmac SL 58cm! Thanks!
Tremendous East Midlands accent on display. Give that man a weekly slot!
Just trying to understand what this is. If I'm 25 miles out on a weekend ride and I get a flat? So, I pull out the glue and sandpaper? Or, do I just pull out my trusty spare tube and be on my way?
jj higgs The tire is sewn around the tube. Your trusty spare tube will do nothing for you. You either carry a spare whole tire, pre-glued, probably folded up under the saddle, or you carry a can of Vittoria Pitstop or something similar. Or you call someone you know will drive out to get you. Or you walk forever and ever. The sandpaper is only for new rims.
Rob R Or you can save money buy not buying expensive tubular wheels.
Just to be clear: "Tube" should refer to the inner tube in a clincher. "Tub" refers to tubular tires (also called "sew-ups" because they're basically a clincher with the inner tube literally sewn together at the bead).
So when you're riding tubs, you have a spare that's been preglued stuffed up under your saddle or whatever. If you used sealant and it doesn't seal a puncture, you stop and peel off the flat (bring some plastic tire levers too) and just stick the spare on. The glue will be good enough to get you home.
Is it ok to use tape now since most everyone uses disk brakes and we're not dealing with the heat that he refers to in the vid?
how much glue is required for one tire? is one 25gram tube enough?
Is it possible to remove it if you get a puncture? Or do you have to throw out the whole wheel and start again?
***** How do you take the glued on tire off the rim?
***** Never mind, I found the answer farther down the thread.
Nobody ever mentions anything about a little hump once the tyre is mounted where the valve is. When mounting, you need to put all your strength at the beginning so the tire is nice and flat around the valve. (Also pre-stretching for a few days is essential)
I have been given quite an old single speed bike and I used to mountain bike. I would really like to get back into cycling and go onto Road Biking. I started training today and hit 10.9km in 28:43 with the old bike. Im only 15 and do not have the means to buy a super expensive road bike so I was quite interested in gradually replacing parts on the bike periodically to create a good road bike. Is this feasible? For example,next week I am going to replace the over hand break levers for uphill climbing as I only have one brake lever working at the moment. I don't even have a helmet as they are too expensive for me. My birthday is in 5 days and I'm hoping to replace some bike levers, get a proper helmet and re-wrap the handlebars as I took them off today as they were extremely old, (5+ years). I would really appreciate any help that I receive and I would be extremely appreciative if someone could get in contact with me about helping me on my road bike journey. Love the great tips and tricks GCN and hope everyone has a good day! Kind Regards, Q
depends what you willing to spend on upgrades as sometimes it is cheaper to buy a good road bike
I am building a bike for £3k that is as good or better than a £8.8k bike from quest adventure but building from parts and sram red 22, my mountain bike I spent £400 for full suspension and discs and that was main upgrades since I got it like in 2007 I think
Do any of the pro peloton teams use the tubeless setup?
So if I understood correctly. 4 coats on the rim and 1 on the tire, wait for them to dry than just place the tire on the rim? I have been placing the tub on the wheel while it still wet.
The last coat on the rim will be wet.
I can't understand the most important part for me: what is he saying about the glue on the rim vs the tire. Do they put "dry" tire on the "wet" rim? Most of the wheel manufacturers recommend putting fresh glue on both before mounting the tire, which is really messy.
Could anyone please make a transcription of that part(from 1:58)? Thanks.
Nick Kukoreko Yes I agree - its not clear. Wet tyre on wet rim or dry tire on wet rim?
+Nick Kukoreko No my friend. It's clear. The 4th coat on the rim and the only coat on the tire are soak. They need to be sticky. So they are a little wet. What was not clear is the ammount of time you have to wait aftar that last coat on both sides (rim and tire) to finally put the tire.
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How do you change that tire? how to remove old glue ?
still can see that Long Belt. Mate You Are So wrong To Wear Like That.
guti1101 I have been mentioning that for a long time but he seems to like having an extra penis.
Maybe he thinks its a light saber to go with all these Jedi tips.
Thanks for sharing..
good video but I think it just validates why I use clinchers. its just matter of time.
Amazing
Thanx!
Acetone on a carbon rim???
yeah wtf hahaha
There are too many stickers on them anyway
The only thing that cartoons fear.
So, still not clear to me. Put two layers of glue on rim that are let dry for a day or so each. One layer on tyre which is also let dry. Then on the day of fitting the tyre, one fresh layer of glue on both rim and tyre, and then fit together? or only a fresh coat on the rim?
Fernando Jimenez I would do just fresh coat on the rim. It's easy enough to move the tire around when it's like that. Just make sure you inflate it a bit (just under 20psi) to give it some shape before you put it on the rim.
Guys please share the most important information that is what is best solvent for taking glue off. And please don´t tell it is Acetone it takes ages to remove one layer of glue, I cannot imagine to be possible to remove 3 without spending a week worth of training on it...
Péricles Moreira Years ago when I raced on tubs, I used gasoline to clean the rims of glue. Not sure if that's wise, but that is what I did. Worked well, but on carbon? not sure
Do the mechanics eat the same food as the cyclists?
How do you fix a flat with tubulars?
khlash you don't really. Some people offer tubular repairs, but it's really a dying art. Some tubulars can be repaired using latex (the stuff used to seal tubeless tyres), but this is really restricted to the models that are tubeless and Tufo are the only manufacturer I know doing that. A couple of brands offer quick sealants (combination of latex, foam and CO2) that can be used if you puncture a tub out on the road. I'm really not sure how permanent solutions like this are, though.
...and to be assured that you sew everything backup straight, you should match original holes with each other, and that means you should mark each hole and their corresponding hole (or mark every other hole). Otherwise, your sewing job will likely result in a kink and tire is now junk
Send them off get them repaired sorted
There is a video I keep deferring to make, got it down to a science. Good tubulars get flats rarely (on good roads had 1 flat in 20,000 kms with Veloflex). On chippy roads, more often. Worth doing on an expensive tyre with less than 50% wear. However, the key is: sharp knife, leather sewing kit, patch kit and epoxy/welbound. Open surgically the casing, 2-3 inches?, pull the latex, ensure there is one and not two holes. Patch, put the latex under the foot of a chair. Them using the leather kit, you can pre-drill holes at 5mm interval, use the thick needle and cord to saw it back. When done, add a layer of epoxy/welbound. It solidifies the casing and new sutures. Next day it is as good as new. Used it on rear tyres, front tyre. Avoid inserting Stan's sealer for a while, as it may loosen the patch. Work time? 30 min.....
@gcn #torqueback how do pro mechanics remove old glue from tubs?
Muc-off drivetrain cleaner is brilliant for that.
What kind of glue?
I'm considering to buy dura ace c50 tub or clincher wheelsets, but is there any huge difference in terms of performance between those two?
***** Or just stick a spare tub in your pocket like you would an inner tube. It's really not that big a deal. Plus tubular wheelsets are lighter than their clincher counterparts. And tubs are much much better than clinchers in terms of performance and comfort. Give it a try!
I was just trying to dispel this myth that tubs are only for pros with support cars - not the case. Maintenance really isn't that difficult. If you have the dosh and want the best performance (if you race for example), then tubs are the way to go. In terms of an everyday wheelset though, I'd still go with a sturdy alu. Campa Shamal Mille for example
I heard that the clincher wheels are way much heavier than the tubular wheels though..
Thanks guys, appreciate your comments.
My LBS did it in 10 mins, $15 bucks. I am just a weekend rider but like tubs.
Rob Wood they probably used tub tape if it only took them that long?
My LBS is charging £90!! So annoying that I'm tempted to try myself!
Rob Wood what? I started doing it myself. Took a long time to clean rim. But maybe should not have bothered. Glueing on was easy. My back wheel i have an old tire withe some glue but no new glue. It's fine. Diy
Simon is like, okay, we done here!
Well, I am the pro here so, I do it like that all the time 😎👊🏻
Now show us the pro tip on removing the tire and and glue off
They probably just throw them away.
***** Hey mate, I don't get the part with the scotch pad.
What I did to my last removal: Remove tub, Rub with acetone / rag to get glue off, sand -> reglue.
*****
That beats using my finger nails.
I'm sure we all know how it's done. with lots elbow grease. I want to know if the pro mech's have secret tricks to get the job done easier and faster.
***** Initially mentioned method is no different than what I do at home. Cut the tub, scotch pad, acetone+goo gone and rub like hell. Use of wire brush on your second comment sounds interesting but I would never dare to do that on carbon wheels.
don't sniff the glue...unless you want too...
Might be fun
For me and you
how to tape or glue a 700X30c tire to a normal rim ally
Ok I will ask the idiot question ... why would you want to glue the innertube to the rim? And what do you do if you have a puncture out on a ride too big to just patch?
3Vimages That's not an idiot question at all. A tubular tyre is different from a normal tyre in that it is completely enclosed, the inner tube is literally sewn inside it. The reason it's preferred by road racers is that it "feels" nicer on the road, has less rolling resistance, and is a bit lighter.
And you can't repair punctures, the whole, very expensive, tyre gets thrown out.
Global Cycling Network That is clear now. Thank you.
damari192837465 bit late to the party here but running tubular will allow you to run at very low psi (30) and very high psi (200)
so many Cosmic Carbone sets lying around...
Sorry was just putting my cupboard up haha
there were so many Wet/Dry comments.. figured I would update that with a different video from Zipp - th-cam.com/video/OGw3DlZMRGI/w-d-xo.html
I think Simon needs a longer t-shirt
Clinchers 4 Lyfe
One of these days they are going to do a video and point to the left side of the screen on the outro. That might destroy the universe.
Those wheel were never straight out of factory. They were straight outta compton
I love the smell of glue....or is that just me lol
WHY, do no pro teams use tape? Why still use glue?
4 coats of glue on the rim???? Yeah I'd hate to be the bloke who has to clean that glue!
Having seen that, as a regular rider in the UK I would never consider tubs- what a total pain in the butt to fit and use over clinchers! Something really only suitable for pro teams clearly.
Wich Team is this? And who is he? I heard he say "bocsánat" its mean in Hungary: sorry. So he is probably hungarian.
So does that mean if i get a puncture on a tubler tyre i have to wait 2 days before i can ride my bike again?? fuck this clinchers are the best repair and ride straight away,
emery paper, file,
Shouldn't the tape be called tube tape and not tub tape, the same as the wheels are called.
what an inconvenience
What language is this?
+Paavan Patel Bicycle.
fucking A up lad
spot on too aye lad
Yes, I try to understand what language they speaking ^^. But something I'm pretty sure you don't need 4 cote of glue on wheels
What a totally poor video-so much left out, not covered or unclear...
The mechanic should consider cycling himself.
How do GCN manage to make EVERY SINGLE ONE of their video's almost useless and uninformative. Not watched one for ages and thought i'd see what tips for tubs there were on YT....... till next time I forget how crappy GCN are .. Like oters have stated... wheres the detail ? how is he putting glued tubs on like theres no glue on ? pre stretch ? etc...
Nope. Dead tech