How To Install Tubular Tires With Glue

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  • Tubular tires, or tubs, have gone out of fashion in recent years, with most opting for clinchers or tubeless. However, they do have some benefits, most notably being more puncture-resistant, especially in terms of pinch flats. Fitting tubular trres is quite a time consuming and fiddly job, so Alex takes you through all the steps in this video.
    00:00 Intro
    00:25 How tubular tyres work
    01:08 What you need
    01:49 New tyres & wheels
    02:25 Cleaning the wheel rim
    04:07 Glueing the rim
    06:00 Glueing the tyre
    07:19 Fitting the tyre
    09:05 Aligning the tyre tread
    10:46 Pump it up
    12:11 Repeat for the other wheel
    13:06 Summary
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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tubular, tubeless or clinchers: which do you prefer and why? 🚴

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tubs for racing, clinchers for training. Glue, always. Mastik One for Vittoria, Conti glue for Conti. (Mastik One seems to loosen the base tape on Conti tubulars)

    • @bicivini
      @bicivini 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      #1 Veloflex Pro Tour 28mm tubulars… #2 Michelin Power Cup tubulars… for training with tape, racing glue. Still most puncture proof, comfort, weight ratio excellence. Available with most modern, aero, lightweight carbon wheels like Deerobust / EliteWheels / Yishun etc. But just my preference and 5 cents on it

    • @morlamweb
      @morlamweb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tubulars are interesting as retro tech, and I'm a fan of most retro bike tech; but I can change out two supple clinchers + TPU tubes in about 15 minutes.

    • @firasmaruf5045
      @firasmaruf5045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clinchers, baby!

    • @paulbrown4235
      @paulbrown4235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tubs only for the last 25 years!

  • @demishade
    @demishade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Never seen a GCN video that shouts 'Take it to your local bike shop' more than this one :)

  • @soumafan
    @soumafan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Wow! If I had to choose between tubs and tubeless, I'd definitely go tubeless! But luckily clinchers have freed me from choosing which of those messes I want to deal with.

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I use tape instead of glue for tubular, went down hill at 43mph with flat front wheel

    • @hillarynoye1959
      @hillarynoye1959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do a video using tubular tape - piece of cake ..

  • @romanpramuka2703
    @romanpramuka2703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This video reminds me all that mess with tubulars when I was teenager over 30 years ago. Now, I'm super happy for tubeless, no pinch flats, no punctures, much easier setup 👍😉

    • @piglegluckson9156
      @piglegluckson9156 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Add run-flat inserts & you've got a perfect setup.

    • @romanpramuka2703
      @romanpramuka2703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@piglegluckson9156 good idea, but too expensive, too heavy and too difficult to install.

  • @eriksmith5898
    @eriksmith5898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you ride tubulars only all the time you can:
    Use Vittoria mastic glue and forget about all prepping and only dab a little beside the valve on the tire.
    Glue the rim let the glue dry until it is tacky not sticky, don't be cheap with it. More glue/layers let the tire bed in better.
    Bring a tire lever or you will struggle to get it off! Apparently triathletes leaves a patch without glue for easier removal.
    Pre-stretch is a must on Conti Comp preferable wet/damp.
    Use Orange seal or other sealer that can handle higher pressure and you only need to change when it is worn out.
    Be aware that many mtb sealer wont stand more than 6-7 bar.
    Two things about tubular. If you are heavy/tall like me a clincher needs above 9 bar not to "snakebite" in a pothole.
    There is no grip or comfort in a clincher at 9 bar. I use 8.2 (120psi) in the tubulars.
    I had a inner tube rip in a tire on a 12.7% decent. I was lucky there where no traffic that moment.
    I have had tubulars flatten (before sealer was a thing) and that is ok, I have ridden home slowly on flat tubulars
    with no rim damage.
    Use a worn tire that has been glued as a spare.
    Cheapest tubular are shit with no puncture protection.

  • @randalbladel2817
    @randalbladel2817 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been riding tubulars for 50 years. Good job. A few tips, though. Mounting the wheel in a truing stand or a frame on a works stand makes it a lot quicker and easier to apply and spread the glue to the wheel, and also to center the tread after mounting the tire. I have always found a fingertip is perfect for accurately spreading the glue onto the wheel, though you will either need a nitrile glove or a bit of solvent to clean your finger after. Lastly, if you think riding tubulars will save you from pinch flats, as suggested by the title image, think again. Definitely possible. I have not had much luck with sealant in tubulars, but I may try Orange Seal as suggested by someone else’s comment.

  • @lillemansvensson
    @lillemansvensson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I use Effetto Mariposa Tubular Tape, it takes less than 15 minutes for a set of wheels

    • @FurySpyder
      @FurySpyder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what I use. Not too horrible to remove either.

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The first tubular I glued back in the 80's was a true disaster. I managed to get glue on my fingers, glue on the sidewalls, and glue on the rim. That wasn't the worst thing that happened. I was doing this outside, sitting on my front steps, when I somehow manage to bump both wheels and knock them into my freshly mowed lawn. I ended up with bits of mowed grass all over the braking surfaces of the rims, on the nice sidewalls of the tires, and stuck to my fingers. It took a VERY long time to clean off the rims and fingers, but I never was able to clean the sidewalls completely.
    I learned from my mistakes.

    • @andrewmcalister3462
      @andrewmcalister3462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not sure whether to laugh or be horrified by this. 😂😱 Thanks for sharing.

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewmcalister3462 You learn by your mistakes. It's like learning to not pedal through an off camber turn, at 30 mph.

    • @andrewmcalister3462
      @andrewmcalister3462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @billkallas1762 so the lesson learned was "glue tubs BEFORE mowing the lawn"? 😆

  • @Aragorn.Strider
    @Aragorn.Strider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Tufo has videos about tubular tyres but they use double sided rim tape, which appears a lot easier

  • @rnedisc
    @rnedisc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't even know tubular wheels/tires existed for some reason. So when I went to buy a secondhand set of carbon wheels off facebookmarketplace to my big surprise they turned out to be these kind of wheels. They already had tires on (one flat). And it said "tubes" in the ad. But my dumb head just thought "oh nice, free inner tubes and outer tubes". But they're still very nice and light carbon wheels so I guess we're doing this now! Hopefully the future holds not that many punctures but we'll see.... Thanks so much for the video!

  • @aaronedgeart
    @aaronedgeart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I still use Tufos tubular road tires on my modern carbon wheels for summer riding. This particular brand lets you use Dynaplug style repair system (just like you would for regular tubeless tires). Of note, I use tubular tape instead of glue... works great and I've never rolled a tub off a rim.

    • @artemisxo6734
      @artemisxo6734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tape actually increases your rolling resistance, it might not be noticeable to most of us but if you want performance glue is better

    • @luukrutten1295
      @luukrutten1295 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tufo tires are literally rolling resistance nightmares...

    • @aaronedgeart
      @aaronedgeart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've not found issue with them@@artemisxo6734

    • @aaronedgeart
      @aaronedgeart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had no trouble@@luukrutten1295

    • @Philatlondon1
      @Philatlondon1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried the Tufo tubular clinchers. They were pretty awful things.

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done! Gives me hope for you guys to even be talking about this . Please go ahead and read the instructions for each brand of adhesive. Carefully. Many Thanks.

  • @OldDavo1950
    @OldDavo1950 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dark cold winter nights, fixing punctures in the damn things. And sewing them back together straight. True test of patience, espcially near the end. When you dont want to push your needle into the tube. All I can say is thank goodness for high pressure tyre technology.

  • @G60syncro
    @G60syncro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's very generous of Alex to let Duncan use his workshop!!

  • @siriustraining1774
    @siriustraining1774 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alex, you should try this using a bench/table wheel stand! Prep & glue on the rim is way more faster & easy! I ONLY use Vittoria Mastic for gluing tubis! I have glued 1000's of wheels & still do for track racing on the World Cup level!

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    With a cheap tubular, like the Rally, the base tape isn't always glued on straight, so it's best to put the wheel in a truing stand to make it run straight, without having any "lumps".
    After gluing tires like you did for close to 20 years, (and always getting a little glue on my fingers and sidewalls,) I "invented" a slightly different way of getting the tire on the tube.
    After getting the valve and the first 12 inches of tire on the rim, I would flip the wheel over so I could place my bare toes on either side of the valve. This way I could use all of my strength to pull the tire on, and over the last lip of the rim. No messy sidewalls. When I started racing on tubs, you could pick up Conti Sprinters for $40, Comps for $50, and Vittoria CX's for about $45. (back then Conti Sprinters were an actual race tire. Now they are made cheaper and are good for training. (for people who still train on tubs)
    Everything else was pretty spot on.

    • @adadinthelifeofacyclist
      @adadinthelifeofacyclist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use a turbo trainer; with my feet on its legs it's really solid for lifting the tyre off the glue

  • @keithevans5667
    @keithevans5667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well done, I need to do this on my Dura Ace wheels! Mine were done originally by the INEOS mechanics!

  • @markowsley4954
    @markowsley4954 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved when I used Vittoria tubulars on Mavic rims with Dura Ace hubs. Great ride with nice and quiet freewheel.

  • @stevegoodfellow3423
    @stevegoodfellow3423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tubs were the thing when I started racing in the early seventies. The glue was a definite high if you didn't have good ventilation in the workshop. With a bit of practice you can get a wheel done in about ten minutes. Now, repairing a puncture and re-sewing the tub was a skill; I don't suppose I could do it now.

  • @kenblair2538
    @kenblair2538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great Video, Alex. But, you should mention the use of Tufo Gluing tape. My 76 yr. old arms, are not doing this glue stuff any longer. Been using Tufo tape for the last decade , with out issue. That includes flying down hills , and the tires stay on the rims. I do use sealant, but had one tire not reseal, for even a small puncture . Still have 1 set of tires left in my stock, before I hang up my tubular wheels for good. Thanks . KB

  • @leissp1
    @leissp1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video Alex we still use tubs on the track. Back in the day I used to glue my own tubulars. The process is not easy but really satisfying. Today I let experienced people glue my tubs. Not so sure that tubeless should be used on the track as the sealant could make a mess on the boards

  • @aremuolayode8661
    @aremuolayode8661 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video! I am about to install a pair of Tubs for the first time this weekend - perfect timing! 🙂

    • @MrStarford
      @MrStarford 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get the tape it's much easier

  • @peters1992
    @peters1992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pit Stop sealant. For roadside repair of tubular flats.

  • @rolandmg1
    @rolandmg1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can set up a set of wheels with tubs using tape in 15 minutes.
    The other day it took me over an hour to get one tubeless tyre to seal even using a compressor.
    I used tubs the whole of last season averaging 400 to 500km’s per week and didn’t have one flat.
    I even used a lightweight set in the Alps and they felt so much safer descending than tubeless or clinchers.
    Out of the 3 different systems the only one I will never use again on a road bike are tubeless as I’ve had more ruined rides due to non sealing punctures than I’ve ever experienced on tubs or clinchers.

  • @amilcaresada7778
    @amilcaresada7778 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video comforted me that tubeless or clinchers are a great invention 🤣. Well done anyhow Alex: super informative!

  • @andylarham5251
    @andylarham5251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After early disasters with glue everywhere 😂i find it much more hasslefree to use tub tape👍. But fair play to you.

  • @randalbladel2817
    @randalbladel2817 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alternative use for rim cement: Two of my old riding buddies used Tubasti rim cement to glue a cardboard sign saying “Cyclists have a right to the road too” onto the windshield of a car that had been driven to deliberately run them off the road, which they located later. They also removed the lug nuts and replaced the hub caps. I’m certain it took a lot of time, effort and solvent to remove that nasty rim cement, and then he had another surprise when he tried to drive it. My favorite revenge story on an aggressive driver.

  • @adadinthelifeofacyclist
    @adadinthelifeofacyclist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well you've done the easy bits. What about taking the old glue off the rim and tyre? What about repairing punctures? It's not that hard, but I'd love to learn any useful tricks!

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The trick with repairing punctures is to figure out roughly where the puncture is likely to be, so you don't have to unglue base tape and unstitch too much. Pull the base tape off around the suspected area, cut the stiching and gently pull the inner tube out. Then lightly inflate the tube (careful as it's more fragile than a "real" inner tube) to locate the hole. Patch it, let it dry, put the tube back in, and carefully restitch the tub (you don't want the needle to make another puncture!). Reglue the base tape and your're good to go!

    • @stevegoodfellow3423
      @stevegoodfellow3423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@stevemawer848 From memory, that's easier to say than do 😁

    • @jreitsma
      @jreitsma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Surprisingly enough, WD40 is quite effective when it comes to removing old glue. I'd also recommend using tubular tape; it hugely simplifies things.

  • @bobschrank473
    @bobschrank473 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so happy, as I type through the tears in my eyes, that you finally are giving some love to tubulars. Too bad you didn't find any with silk casings - aero and a better ride quality than the 30mm monstrosities ridden today (as long as it isn't raining).

  • @Telhmaaa
    @Telhmaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    okej, this video was a big help, because i wanted to buy some new rims, and i probably would have bought the wrong one. I want to use a tire you put on your rim, and then you put the tube under the tire, put the tire up all the way, and then blow the tube, so it all comes together. I think that is what you call a clincher. but. when i for example go to Zipp, to buy wheels, they only sell Tubular Rim-brake and Tubeless Rim-brake (i need rim-brake). does that means no one of those will work, i was very close to buy Tubular once..... Thanks for the help!!! wonderful video again!!!

  • @WredFawks
    @WredFawks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haven't done tubulars myself, but I'm dreaming of building up something lugged with vintage Campag eventually, so I'm definitely saving this vid

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    best add for modern tubeless tires....

  • @lightningll2991
    @lightningll2991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad you said you were not an expert I've glued a few tubs in my day and still use them on the track not really a big deal. Although I liked it better when our mechanics glued them for us. I'd still rather glue tubs than deal with tubeless.

  • @adadinthelifeofacyclist
    @adadinthelifeofacyclist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find that it's easiest to straighten the tyre (and put glue on the rim) with the wheel mounted in a turbo trainer, without the resistance roller engaged obvs. Sat on a chair with a foot on the turbo frame either side of the wheel it's easy to see where it's out of alignment and easy (well, easier) to lift the tyre away from the glue and reposition it.
    It also allows adjustment of the tightness of the tyre around the rim so the tyre isn't stretched more in some places; I don't know if that's a thing, but I do it cos it's convenient when straightening the tyre on a turbo...

  • @FurySpyder
    @FurySpyder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I prefer tubulars, with tape, not glue, to tubeless. Overall though, I prefer clinchers. So much easier to set up and maintain and most importantly, to deal with punctures!

    • @BlueScreenGaming1
      @BlueScreenGaming1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would say it would be okay for training/commuting on pathways?
      There is some really cheap carbon tubular wheels on marketplace place, but I am worried about maintenance (I do have access to a bike shop at work however)

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlueScreenGaming1 As an impecunious schoolboy in the early 1960s I used to ride my sprint wheels and tubs everywhere - racing, training, and to school. Didn't suffer many punctures until the tubs got old, either. I did do the repairs myself - you need a big strong needle and fingers to match!

    • @FurySpyder
      @FurySpyder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BlueScreenGaming1 yes, you 'could' use tubulars for any type of riding, providing you can get the tyres you need, but the question would be 'why' when you probably have more choice of rims and tyres with clinchers. For me, one of the downsides with tubulars is if you get a puncture mid-ride..... Essentially you have to carry an emergency tub tyre with you or phone a taxi/partner! Having said this, most tubs come with latex tubes which are less susceptible to punctures and some people mitigate this problem by putting tubeless sealant inside their latex tub tubes. This also mitigates another problem with latex inners commonly found in tubs, ie the rate of air loss. I wouldn't use tubulars on a bike I need every day as you'd be topping the tyres up every day! Having said all this, I, touch wood, have never had a puncture on a tubular. I have only fitted tubulars on my 'climbing' bike for the low weight. For most other types of rides, I'd rather stick to clinchers!

  • @litespeed65
    @litespeed65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought a Campagnolo Bora Ultra 2 front tubular wheel at a great price and will alternate fronts this Spring/Summer.

  • @schrodingerthecat
    @schrodingerthecat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Watching this tutorial makes me very thankful for tubeless.

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lazy!

    • @HeibesHealth
      @HeibesHealth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or you could go with clinchers. LoL.

    • @morlamweb
      @morlamweb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HeibesHealth tubeless tires ARE clinchers.

    • @HeibesHealth
      @HeibesHealth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morlamweb Clinchers need an inner tube.

    • @HeibesHealth
      @HeibesHealth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@morlamweb If you’re trying to get technical, sure, tubeless are clinchers that are specifically designed to be able to be run tubeless, but what’s traditionally called a clincher tire requires an inner tube.

  • @shermnduke
    @shermnduke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have run clincher, tubular, tubulsr/clincher tires. Tufo makes tubular rim tape that sets with a few miles of riding. Their tires can survive being run flat. Pressures were whacky at 220 psi. I run either standard tubular or tubular/clincher on six of my seven fixed gear bikes.

  • @MrStarford
    @MrStarford 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well you made that difficult. I have jumped on the tubular wagon after buying some 2nd hand 404s (bargain). Made a wheel stand, and used gluing tape instead of liquid glue, and apart from cleaning off the old glue with acetone (painful), the job was simple.
    I was told the tape comes off cleaner too
    Would love to try the pirelli tubs but haven't been able to get them

  • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
    @jameslee-pevenhull5087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rims for tubs are called 'Sprint rims'. 28" Tubs are usually 28x22. That's 28 inches x 22 millimeters ??
    Clean up sprint rims with acetone. When the old cement is soft, treat it with a hot air gun, or blowtorch and scrape it off with a spoon.
    Rims and tubs need two coats of glue.
    Tubs are weird. They shrink onto the rim as they are inflated. Deflate as much as reasonable to align on rim. Cement doesn't 'dry' it 'sets'.
    "Izzy Whizzy, let's get busy." Sooty. By Harry Corbett. This bike guy must be very old.
    "Glue sniffers, stick together." 🙂
    Outercovers with innertubes were called 'Demontables'. The early 'Pneus' were sewn up and glued on.

  • @donaldallison
    @donaldallison 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks I'm going to replace my 20 year old tubulars this winter. My spare on my bike was a 1979 Russian Tubular it still holds air.

  • @urobos1
    @urobos1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Remember learning how to do this fork an old video back in the day with Simon.. I think he used tub tape back then..

  • @richardharris8538
    @richardharris8538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alex, this video takes my mind back to the '60s, when I used to glue 'tubs' (silk imperfs) onto 'sprints'. Bearing in mind the proclivity of young lads to not do things thoroughly, I'm amazed that I never had a tub roll off while cornering. The thought of it horrifies me now.

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never could afford silk tubs back in the 60s, but like you, what's "thoroughly"? 🙂 I never had tubs roll off either, but I did see that happen at a trike race at Lee on Solent - cornering puts a lot of sideways force on the tubs on a trike!

    • @richardharris8538
      @richardharris8538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevemawer848 I'm guessing you weren't riding a trike - it was mostly older guys riding them. I never saw the appeal. I remember racing on the airfield circuit there, in the early to mid '60s. That was the only time I ever got applause from spectators.

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardharris8538 No, I've only ridden a racing trike once, and that was just a go on one my LBS had in for service. We may have been at the same event - HMS Daedalus? I think they even had races for tandem trikes, though not many of them!

    • @richardharris8538
      @richardharris8538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevemawer848 Yes, we used to ride up from Bournemouth, have a couple of beers and sandwiches in a pub, en route, do the race, and ride back home, via a tea room (in Lymington), and more beer in a pub near Christchurch. Those were the days!
      As for trikes, I never saw anything as exotic as a tandem trike. A regular trike was a devil to steer. It would go the opposite way to what I wanted, and that was true for everyone except the crazy guy 🤣who owned it.

    • @kennethward9530
      @kennethward9530 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First summer as a cat IV racer, putting bike together under a shady tree for a race, my buddy points out a guy gluing his front tire on with fast tack spray adhesive just before the race. Wisely made it a point to stay in front of the guy, who did take down some riders. Can't say for sure if the tire rolled causing crash or because of crash, but I had my suspicions.

  • @PoulHansenDK
    @PoulHansenDK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use the tyres that my used wheels are intended for. On my lightweight I do prefer tubulars. BUT I use tape for the tubulars. It's so much easier to center the tyres that way.
    Only tubeless in my fatbike, to save 1 kg of weight !!

  • @MegaPapagaj
    @MegaPapagaj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20 min job to glue 2 tubs with Effetto mariposa tape... No mess... no stres😉

  • @lucdancause7707
    @lucdancause7707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t use glue since i found jantex tubular tape. Easy to install, no mess and it holds perfectly.

  • @zeruiahwild1
    @zeruiahwild1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are these different than standard tubed tires? All my wheels need are rim tape and they're good to go nothing else required lol

  • @TimR123
    @TimR123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. I've wondered if I've been missing out not running tubulars since the days when even civilians ran them and the rest of us still had steel beaded clinchers. But you have CURED me Alex! I no longer want to do it at all. And you didn't even cover what happens when you get a flat.

  • @hotsummernight289
    @hotsummernight289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    tubulars 4ever

  • @onederment
    @onederment 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So if you get a puncture with a tubular tyre can you inject some sealant and pump up the tyre?

    • @aaronedgeart
      @aaronedgeart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some, like Tufo brand, sealant and Dynapunches too!

  • @TonyPurcell-xs2gc
    @TonyPurcell-xs2gc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can I take tubular off my wheels and replace with inner tube and tyre?

  • @davidburgess741
    @davidburgess741 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd still be on tubulars if I had an unlimited budget. I had a purpose built galvanized solvent tank for removing glue. Also great for finding punctures. How many have actually repaired punctures on these!

  • @WarHammerWH
    @WarHammerWH 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sure Alex did a fine job, but this is such a messy affair! All this for what, a marginal improvement in rolling resistance and road feel (if any) over clinchers or tubeless?

  • @fastestmilkman3840
    @fastestmilkman3840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Tubular Tires with a can of sealant are perfect. Also use tape, not glue, much faster.

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I LOVE FMB tubulars, and have been able to keep using them after a puncture with Orange Sealant, BUT... Donnelly makes a cross tubular that is built like a tubeless tire. It is fabulous -- perfectly straight and works perfectly with sealant. Continental makes one tubular that way, too.

    • @fastestmilkman3840
      @fastestmilkman3840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericpmoss ohh I'll check it out!

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tape isn't as secure as glue though so up to you

  • @prestachuck2867
    @prestachuck2867 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I glued so many of those during the 80s and 90s, it’s ridiculous.
    For road, I personally prefer clinchers with lightweight tubes these days.
    I’ve ridden tubeless road, but it’s a mess on the roadside when problems do occur, and whatever you do, do not use a popular brand of sealant that rhymes with the word “pans” on aluminum rims. It literally ate holes through the inner walls of my Campagnolo Eurus 2-way rims. Expensive and time consuming repair.
    But, If I was still a young racer with dreams, I would roll tubeless today because they’re just faster.

  • @humski0402
    @humski0402 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can i buy this shirt?!? Didnt find it in the gcn store 😢

  • @MikhaelHausgeist
    @MikhaelHausgeist 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I understand that it sounds like heresy, but is there any chances that it be possible to use rim in which was glued such tires with regular tires?
    I'll buy some old bicycle with glued tires like this on wheels, but hub of this wheels are too juicy to throw it away and I will got hard time to afford new rim and sprockets if I will to save wheel hub because it have system with straight sprocket head which is exotic in my region.

  • @randalbladel2817
    @randalbladel2817 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thankful for road tubeless after seeing this? Mounting tubulars is a lot easier and less messy than setting up road tubeless, in my experienced opinion.

  • @user-tw9pq4qt4m
    @user-tw9pq4qt4m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where do i get tubular tyres..from Nigerian

  • @marty197666
    @marty197666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just did this for my tt bike (reasonably priced rear disc) argh I got the conti tyre with no wobbles and looking good. Only after one day did I realise the tread wasn’t straight 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😢. Well I survived a tt with a very fast section so I think it’s ok. Hopefully
    And tubeless all the way. So easy and nice to have piece of mind

  • @Cuzzazbuzz
    @Cuzzazbuzz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember this as a teenager and it was so annoying getting aligned. Stitching tubs to save money was also a common pastime…

  • @chicodusty30
    @chicodusty30 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you run latex inner tubes in tubeless tires?

    • @artemisxo6734
      @artemisxo6734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      absolutely, tubeless really just means tubeless *ready*

    • @chicodusty30
      @chicodusty30 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the information!!@@artemisxo6734

  • @adadinthelifeofacyclist
    @adadinthelifeofacyclist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fitting the last bit of the tyre, it's easiest to wear legwear that can get gluey and grip the horizontal wheel between stomach and thighs. See the Continental how to video

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alex: How To Glue & Install Tubular Tires. THANK YOU ALEX, finally!👋👋👋👋💥

  • @Philatlondon1
    @Philatlondon1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After watching this, I might just get some tubs back on my Hyperons and ride them locally with PitStop.

  • @theshadow8008
    @theshadow8008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice t shirt how can i get one!?

  • @suhdud4646
    @suhdud4646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If tyre/rim combos where like starting a fire:
    Tubs - rubbing sticks together.
    Tubeless - mining for gas, refining that gas, mining flint, building a container with a wick.
    Inner tubes - like a box of matches, strike a match and hey presto - fire. Its an old concept but works every time.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Next:
    [1] how to re-sew tubulars . . . [just for fun]
    [2] how to put sealant into a tubular

    • @artemisxo6734
      @artemisxo6734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      [2] use a valve core tool to remove the valve core, inject 1-2 ounces through a sealant syringe, put the valve back in

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@artemisxo6734 we need a visual for the uninitiated

    • @adadinthelifeofacyclist
      @adadinthelifeofacyclist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every tubular I have resewn has started off with the stitching following one pattern then inexplicably changing to another pattern halfway through! 😂

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adadinthelifeofacyclist no worries, it's abnormally normal, you are not alone!

    • @Philatlondon1
      @Philatlondon1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought the advice was not to put sealant in tubulars because the latex tubes rip.

  • @rossco00014wd
    @rossco00014wd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Track wheels still use tubs i just replaced 2 tyres due to a puncture how ever the way i was taught was 1 layer on the rim and tyres let them dry for 24hrs 2nd layer same process 3rd layer rim only then mount the tyre make sure its straight etc

  • @DoNuT_1985
    @DoNuT_1985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thankfully skipped over tubs, so I'll have to decide which of the other two technologies I hate most when I get my gravel bike and set it up tubeless in a few months time.

  • @gund_ua
    @gund_ua 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why would you still use glue when there is a tubular glue tape lol?
    I'm running tubulars forever and they are amazing with the tape - no glue mess, easy fit and always perfect every time because you can seat the tire perfectly before applying the tape.
    And best of all - easy puncture fixes with sealant just like with tubeless but without the mess and I don't need to tell you about the ride feel - nothing comes close.

  • @yosacfc
    @yosacfc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tubular is still the best👌. Its the choice of professional teams when not sponsored by tubeless manufacturers

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahahahaaaa. Well Put, well said, I'm even gonna steal that one, and guess what? It's true!

  • @dh7314
    @dh7314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These are a mystery to me. I punctured so frequently before converting to tubeless, I can’t understand how you effectively deal with flats at the roadside with tubulars (if you don’t have a team car obvs)

    • @matt_acton-varian
      @matt_acton-varian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most riders had training wheels with tough carcasses tubs on and a racing pair with more supple but puncture prone tyres. It was not uncommon to see riders with semi inflated spares draped over their shoulder. If you did puncture you would have to pull off the old tyre and fit the new one without adhesive and ride carefully until you get home to secure it. But the higher working pressures of tubular tyres offer a little extra protection from punctures.

    • @dh7314
      @dh7314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matt_acton-varianthat’s interesting thanks.

    • @TobiMcTobeface
      @TobiMcTobeface 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where does thought higher pressure leads to less punctures? The only case I see this being the case is with clinchers to avoid pinch flats, otherwise higher pressure will deform far less and not resist a sharp object's penetrating the carcass

    • @matt_acton-varian
      @matt_acton-varian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TobiMcTobeface I didn't say it would make a huge difference, only slight. Sharp objects will cut through anything if ridden over. But high pressures lead to more blunt objects that can cause punctures and pinches to bounce off the surface.

    • @stibra101
      @stibra101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vittoria Pitstop, easy

  • @stevemawer848
    @stevemawer848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course I've glued tubs to rims - the alternative back in the 1960s were 27" "high pressure tyres", which were dreadful. And it certainly didn't take me an hour per wheel - you obviously need some practice! 🙂

  • @chrisjames1924
    @chrisjames1924 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is zero point in using glue, unless you’re doing fast descents in extremely hot places like the Middle East. Glue I s messy and laborious. With tape, tubs couldn’t be easier to install and remove. I know the marketing is pushing tubeless but the fact remains tubular tyres are by far the best in terms of speed and safety. This video will just put people off using tubular tyres. Tub tape makes the process quick and efficient.

  • @supersucka
    @supersucka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ppl forget that tubular rims are structurally stronger than clincher rims. Tubeless tubulars are the future.

  • @Kumppaaa
    @Kumppaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Firstly 1) instead of using Conti glue, get something better and longer lasting, Vittoria Mastik is good. B) Don't use such a big brush which makes everything messy. C) Too much glue in one go. If rim is clean then first 2 really thin glue rounds on rims and 2 layers on tyres with couple hour dry time. After it last glue round on rim and pull tire on. No need to clean rim if using same glue and glue is not vintage, then just 1 layer more. D) Those Vittoria Rally tubs sucks and impossible to get strait with bad uneven quality, get atleast something mid level tubulars like Conti spinters.
    Glued my own tubes 2 days ago. Really easy job.

  • @francodellamura7471
    @francodellamura7471 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why have you not suggested tub tape? Cement too messy!

    • @TobiMcTobeface
      @TobiMcTobeface 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tape is once only and annoying to clean off when changing the tyre. Once glued you just as to the glue. If you need to change a tyre on a ride you can stick a pre glued one on and it's almost as good as doing it properly. I wouldn't hammer round right corners but you won't need to worry if cornering at normal speed. You'd be able to complete a day in the mountains with it. With tape there's no way you'd do that. It's get you home only.

  • @wick67
    @wick67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really don't miss having to do that.

  • @harrie974
    @harrie974 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve ridden tubular tyres for a while and it was like riding on clouds.

  • @tychoMX
    @tychoMX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t think they are worth the hassle anymore - except for cyclocross. Currently gluing two sets, Belgian (tape-and-mastic) style.

  • @litespeed65
    @litespeed65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, tubeless with that nasty sealant leaking out is so much better.
    Using rim tape for tubular is much neater than glue.

  • @LosihoTTT
    @LosihoTTT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Real tyres. Happily have them on 3 of my bikes. If you know, you know.

  • @woolychewbakker5277
    @woolychewbakker5277 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GCN doing history lessons now ?

  • @hillarynoye1959
    @hillarynoye1959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use tubular tape - no need for glue !!
    Then no pinch flats and no tubeless sealant …
    Ps veloflex make some nice narrow through to wider tubulars ..

  • @salitomi
    @salitomi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think it is retro. Many pro teams are still using it! I love tubulars! I prefer gluing it rather than use messy sealant.

  • @maugerville
    @maugerville 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @gcntech OMG not Vittoria Rally tubs ! They are about the worst tubular you can buy. they ride badly, the base tape is not straight and the often have lumpy parts in the tread. In 35 years of riding tubulars I have not encountered tires as bad. Even the garden hose like TUFO tires are better.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Acetone is better for the job, instead of rubbing alcohol!

  • @bikecommuter24
    @bikecommuter24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IF I had a bike that used these kind of tires I would make a fixture to hold the wheel still.
    thank goodness for tubeless tires.

  • @ScreamingEagleFTW
    @ScreamingEagleFTW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it looks like you had it partially inflated when you put it on.

  • @marsy3d922
    @marsy3d922 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonas won Le Tour on 24c tubs.

  •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use tubulars. Wish i knew how to repair a puncture...

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      use sealant, even AFTER the puncture, depending on size, though!

  • @sebastianm2381
    @sebastianm2381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Continental Cement is awful IMO. Vittoria Mastik is just way better to deal with and it dries quicker, too. My recommendation if you must use glue.

  • @grahamaustin9085
    @grahamaustin9085 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disappointed that you didn't glue the to your bamboo rims; LOL

  • @denneylau
    @denneylau 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Use the tape, all changed within 20 mins

  • @jugaloo5873
    @jugaloo5873 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just when you thought tubeless were a pain in the arse....

  • @tripw9424
    @tripw9424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People out here saying tubeless is a lot of work. How much of a pita is this when you get a flat?!

  • @croccofanto
    @croccofanto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude... clincers with TPU tube all the way. light, easy and secure

  • @shadowbird
    @shadowbird 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow ! I got the hang of tubeless no problem it took a couple times. But tubulars ain’t happening!

  • @jameswelch100
    @jameswelch100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you've just finished off the tubular tyre market in one video nothing would make me want to go through that ......