The Killer 2023| Movie Review
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- My review for David Fincher's The Killer starring Michael Fassbender.
This film is a good demonstration that not everything between comic panels is worth showing.
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This movie needed to be so much darker and satirical to compensate for the lack of tension and emotional stakes.
I was disappointed in this movie. I can appreciate minimalism, like in "Cast Away," where there's just a man and his routine. But this was straight up boring. Nothing to really latch on to. I'm not moved by dry procedure, but by characters and emotion and stakes. Very little of that here, and what did exist, I didn't care about.
Totally agree. Also what bothered me is that this “cold and calculating” killer SCREWED up the job then suddenly was miffed that he had to face repercussions, which made his revenge tour hypocritical and shallow. Like really? You’re a contract killer, you screw up and you’re shocked your gf was a target? Ugh…
I found this movie very BORING
See, I like procedure and preparation in a movie.
But unlike The Day of the Jackal, The American, and other films involving calculated hitmen, this dud is much too modern; all Fassbender’s character needs is a magical storage room w/ everything he needs, plus an iPhone and some electronic gizmo and presto he can unlock any door, drive off in a stolen cycle, etc.
This film felt like a poor remake of “Blast of Silence” from 1961. That’s a top notch film about a hit man who also has an inner monologue but he feels real unlike this cardboard dude in the Killer
I loved it. Great atmosphere. Found it kind of relaxing actually.
I know I've loved a movie if 2 hours goes by in what seems 5 minutes - and this did, I was quietly riveted from the get go. Alot of what you hate about the movie is what I actually liked, I think that's the whole point of the movie! I love Fincher, I REALLY love Fassbender, I love The Smiths, I love the Aleister Crowley quote, I love watching killers killing - pretty much had what I wanted and I understand your complaints, wise Queen, but these are the times we live in and this is the reflection we see when we look into the eyes of The Killer.
Same here! Loved it.
Amen. I hung on every second of this movie. It was mesmerizing and so easy to watch.
I was rivited and engaged from the first frame to the last. I was fascinated by the killers internal dialogue which if I'm not mistaken is the first we've ever seen on film. We get into the the thought process, the logic, the fears and desires of what makes him tick. It's a great character study if anything else and Fassbander knocks out out perfectly, conveying everything thats needed for it's cold calculated character. This is what it is, you either go for the ride of his killer cold personality or you get off for good. There's no in-between. Fincher did a fantastic job making it alot more interesting and engaging by his use of direction and edits so that definitely helped. The first 20 mins or so could easily bore someone else viewing it but I was totally hooked. The ending was appropriately done and made sense. One of the best of the year!
The graphic novels have a lot more character development through flashbacks to how he became an assassin in his teens, got his first gun and so forth. And he struggles with visions of all the dead he has piled up all in the first book. They also have a lot more interesting hits that The Mechanic movies are a lot closer to. The first couple of books of the comic are way more satisfying in that way and go to way better locations like scuba diving, ski resorts, hills of LA. Way more like a James Bond movie and way better than this movie.
Completely agree, it's so full of nothing. And the monologues made me roll my eyes constantly. Also all the people in your comments that are being rude because they don't like your opinions ... v embarrassing behaviour!!
I loved the movie and thought it was Michael Fassbender, one of the best of his best movies. Cinematography is, without a doubt, astonishing. I loved the narration and his point of view on his methods, but I appreciate your review on the movie, but I'm 50/50 on your talk about the movie. Keep up the good work, and appreciate the content as always. 👍🏾🙏🏾 😉
I also felt nothing. Your analysis of how this worked better in comic book form is brilliant.
I'm about 150 pages into the comic book right now. I am really enjoying it
I just watched The Killer basically because it made a few reviewers' Top Ten lists and or honorable mentions.
I enjoyed the opening. I liked how he was reciting his credo while his eyeball was darting around through
the sniper scope. That said though, his mantra of "Never let the window of opportunity pass',
was followed up by me saying, but you just did.
Even though he has his credos, his eye wonders. That's when I thought, he's going to miss and shoot her.
So the 100% kill rate is offset by him just being an average man.
I understand he was 100%, but he had a clip. Any man would have gone with a follow-through
I was a little confused, for if it was a movie in a life lessons style, shouldn't we have a present-day
flashback set up.
I enjoyed the opening monologue. I thought his codes were interesting. I thought that this would be a great way of giving insight into his character, much like the old noir detectives would do, but with a modern twist.
I didn't know he was going to recite the same ones over and over again throughout the whole movie.
I enjoyed your analysis about how it could work from panel to panel in a comic book, and I agree,
but can't imagine the comic book would use the same ones over and over also.
When he was sitting at the table doing his high-tech swapping copying spy-like gadget things,
I would have liked some dialogue on how it's done like they do in some of the Mission Impossible movies.
I did like the dinner plate cover and glass on the door handle. It reminded me of the part in the movie The Sting, where a piece of paper was folded and placed between the door and its casing. That had follow-through though.
So for me, it was a C. I was a little confused as to why it was so high on several reviewers' lists.
I couldn't help but think that somebody was getting something for something.
Is David Fincher color blind? I've wondered that many times, because of the special color scheme in all of his movies.
Yeah I wholeheartedly agree with all the points you made. How can a nihilistic sociopath somehow maintain a emotionally invested relationship to which was his catalyst for revenge.
And the ending just landed with such a Hollow thud, that I just felt pissed off
David Fincher has made so many films about serial killers, and killers in general, that if I were a California Cold Case Detective -- alarm bells would be going off.
I agree with you completely. It is an impeccably made film yet extremely hollow. The supporting characters have more life in them than Fassbender's character, which i am sure was the point, but the whole film just did nothing for me at all. I could not even be engaged by his revenge - it is all so cursorily drawn.
See Melville's "Le Samourai" (1967), also about a professional hit-man..
Great review! Love your work
I’m watching it at work. About 20 minutes in.
mosquitos in my car are more entertaining than this 'the kill guy' motion picture.
Huh. I didn't think he was a Bateman psychopath. If he was, he wouldn't have to keep talking himself into coldblooded professionalism. He was a normal guy doing a job better suited to a psychopath, I thought
Pretty interestingg seeing the divided opinions on this. I loved it. Loved the monolgues too because they sounded satirical and poetically written anecdotes with a point of being vapid, as if the narrator wasnt aware he was being so.
Not really divided. Most people love it
@@arnemyggen 59% Rotten viewers. 6.8/10 imdb. Good, but the word 'love' doesn't come to mind..
@@greggibson33wasn’t referring to user evaluations. Too dumb for my tastes
@@arnemyggen Yes, you were relying on random opinions rather than data... that was very clear. But you do you.
@@greggibson33 73% meta, 87% rotten and if you have to take in some user then Letterboxd. Not saying that reviews from “pros aren’t flawed, but still I would pick those any day over user reviews. But in the end, the only thing that should matter to you is what you think
There's another 2023 film also named 'The Killer' (actually, its a 2022 domestic theatrical release). A Korean action potboiler with nothing particularly original about it but at leasrt its FUN. Starring Jang Hyuk.
I haven't seen the movie, and I didn't know it was based on a comic. That does make a lot of sense though, with the still images complimenting the character's thoughts. I guess you would have needed a more restrained director, or for Fincher to refocus the film to better fit the medium
_The Killer_ is very well made, but I just could not connect with it emotionally. I didn't care what happened, whether the killer succeeded or failed, lived or died. I stuck around out of pure delight in its craft, which is considerable.
I totally understand what you’re saying man, I myself even asked whether I was supposed to be rooting for him at all, but I think that’s the point. The movie is purposefully tedious, and drags as a way of showing The Killer’s process and perspective - emotionless and one note. In essence, the movie is essentially the relationship between a man and his line of work. You’re not supposed to really connect with anyone, but more so observe. I loved it, it’s quieter and different from any assassin films we’ve seen recently, and Fassbender was certainly captivating to watch. His performance, and especially that one fight scene in middle, kept me hooked. But it’s definitely a slow burn thriller, and it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
@@graythurman4506 That's an interesting take. It may be that folks like me are behind the curve. I've been behind the curve before, not realizing until sometimes years later that certain films were much better than I'd first believed. _The Shining_ is a prime example. I didn't think it was very good when I first saw it, but over the years it grew on me until, one day, I realized it's masterpiece. (This is generally true of Kubrick's films, which were rarely appreciated until years after release). All that said, _The Killer_ didn't leave a deep impression on me. It did not hang out in my brain after I'd finished watching it, unlike _The Shining,_ which stubbornly refused to leave, despite my initial reaction. I cast no shade to anyone who enjoyed it and found it more rewarding. I'm glad you liked it and got something out of it. Fincher is an amazing director, and Fassbender a first-rate actor. For the moment, though, I can honestly say that, beyond an appreciation of its technical mastery, _The Killer_ just didn't do anything for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Saying a movie is “well made” doesn’t make it so.
HOW is this well made? Because someone pointed a camera and didn’t forget to remove the lens cap? Hell, Jack and Jill was well made, had gorgeous cinematography; it was also a horrible, unnecessary brain-dead film by all rights.
The Killer looks like a professional movie, but so what? It’s static, it’s uninvolving, it’s shallow. And it NEVER picks up. It’s anticlimactic and TAME.
@@GizmoBeach You are confusing technical excellence and artistic excellence. An exceedingly ugly piece of furniture can still be assembled from the best materials, with the utmost care, polished and fitted with exquisite precision. It could last a hundred or more years. But it's still ugly and you wouldn't want it in your home.
Conversely, a piece of furniture can look stunning and be very comfortable, and also fall apart after a a few months because of shoddy build quality.
David Fincher's technical abilities are beyond question. His craft is impeccable. But artistically _The Killer_ just didn't work for me.
You are correct, though, on one thing: the quality of a film's craft doesn't really matter in the end if the story and characters are uninteresting.
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Great review. I love your channel!
I'm with you 100% for the first part of your review. I have exactly the same question as you did: _What is the point of all this?_ I was not invested in this character or his goals because, well, as you say, he appears to be a psychopath. He's got a lot of self-serving rules and procedures and nothing else. But then, the story takes what should have been an interesting turn when someone clearly dear to him is hurt and then I think, "Ah, so is he going to go against his mantra of never showing compassion and empathy or not?"
And the answer to that question is very muddy--and I'm not sure if that was deliberate on the writer's part or not. Yes, his methods are as cold and calculated as ever, but isn't going through all of these actions just for revenge a violation of his rules? So he's a cold calculating machine on one level but on another he's an emotional hothead. The only scene that seems at all purposeful is the one near the end, when he confronts the client.
So, has he been doing all of this just to protect his girlfriend and himself? I don't think so. If that were the case, he could have skipped the whole Florida sequence. If there is some point to his actions other than revenge, it doesn't get him any closer to that penultimate scene; it's just revenge. (And makes for a really great fight sequence, I think it should be said).
I also think that the quality of the inner monologing was not great and there was just way too much of it. That first sequence before the opening hit that goes wrong was interminable. I know he was making the point that a lot of the assassination biz is just waiting around but the demonstration was painful.
Where I _disagree_ with you is your second point that the movie doesn't work because it's ill-suited to the medium of film. I haven't read the comic book, but. . . I don't think I would have cared any more about this story if I had read it as a graphic novel. Which seems to me to be the perfect medium to show the details of the assassin's procedures.
The movie needed to make its point, in the end, which is something (I think) it wants to say about emotions either being the point of/or getting in the way of whatever we do in life. Or maybe it's something about revenge, specifically. I think a movie like _Seven_ makes that point so much more effectively--especially if you think about the very last shot.
This movie ALMOST made some kind of point about emotions in the Tilda Swinton sequence. But it needed something more--like him reacting to seeing the knife in her hand, an _Oh Shit_ moment, like _I almost fell for it. Thank god I stuck to my code._
Also, could we just put a moratorium on films about professional killers having their crisis moment? This premise is getting really tired. I really don't care about any of these assholes, no matter how competent they are.
Anyway, thanks for a very thoughtful review.
Good movie! Maybe not for you. But I liked it.
I saw it at the Drafthouse South Lamar. There were a few seats open.
the only seat I saw open was 2 at the very front so I opted not to go. I guess there are always people who don't show up though like Saltburn...which was sold out but 10% of the seats were empty.
Fincher thought he was creating Huey Lewis and the News but came up with Hootie and the Blowfish.
😂
I actually loved this movie 😅
I loved this movie, it was a welcome break from John wick fatigue, loved the cinematography and the locations as well as the transitions between different camera angles as well as the use of colour much like the movie joker representing the mental and emotional state of the character.
Like you said you felt nothing like the character, could that have been the intention?
The story about the bear helped me to understand the theme of the movie.
Hi! If you have Netflix I’d love to hear your thoughts on Leave the World Behind. It was surprisingly good and had some maybe unintentionally hilarious parts (Julia Robert’s dancing) 😂
You drank some dank Diet Fincher. Yucko!
I'll take John Woo's 1980's The Killer any day.
Omg the canned soda analogy🤣
Spot on.
I can’t find a review of Tár from you, or Triangle of Sadness.
If you haven’t made one, would you consider?
I could not understand the hype around them, especially Scorsese’s praise of Tar.
Both movies had this sort of disjointed feel to them, like scrolling through social media where people make these brief random “social commentaries” yet nothing is ever elaborated on in any meaningful way.
And Tar had an added Boomer factor with the “Omg kids these days find out about music through TH-cam and not vinyl?!?” type dialogues…
I’m having a hard time being excited about films since around 2018 and it seems to get worse every year😕
I hadn't gotten back into doing reviews when Tar and Triangle of Sadness came out.
Hey, you reviewed it! :)
I love the hair.
I loved it.
Love Fincher also. Fight Club was the last great H'wood film. I like your Am Psycho cross reference. Almost seems like The Killer is metaphor for mindless corporate employment.
It's interesting (telling?) the evolution of our heroes that has gone from the Good Guy bringing Bad Guy to justice.... to our heroes are now LITERALLY assassins. From gum shoe to murderer. It used to be understood that killing someone was a vile thing to do and our hero would not stoop to that level to "bring 'em in." Now, they murder for money. People often cite the moral bankruptcy of Hollywood, but rarely mention this aspect of it.
You are truly a delusional, ignorant imbecile if you truly believevFIGHT CLUB was “the last great Hollywood film”. Jesus Fn Christ 😂😂😂
It's a shallow, by-the-numbers hitman movie. The only reason there's divided opinion is the name David Fincher. The same reason people will say _Ali3n_ is not just a good movie but the _best_ Alien movie.
Exactly. If this were directed by David Shmucklehead and starred Michael Frumpo, who’d be here raving about it?
It would’ve disappeared in a slew of similar, Grade-Z films. And giving a flat script the A-list treatment doesn’t mean The Killer is an A-list film. It’s not even much of a time-filler.
great review, sadly, like so many movies these days, it won't get released in Hong Kong
I agree, Spot on.
You showed The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (American version). If you haven't watched the original trilogy with Noomi Rapace (European version) you may want to give it a watch. Far superior to the American version. The Killer started out strong, however lost steam as it progressed. I liked it, especially when you consider these types of films are rare today.
Absolutely the OPPOSITE. I saw the original trilogy. The European version of Dragon Tattoo is amateurish compared to Fincher's version in every way. It is painfully obvious that he's miles ahead as a director and considered an all-timer.
I did watch the original Swedish trilogy. It was very good. I'm sad they didn't get to do the full trilogy for the Fincher version.
I think you missed the point of this very profound movie: At the 8 minute mark, Fassbender demonstrates how to eat a cheap (from McDonald's) high protein, low Carb meal. He then Shoots and misses his target thereby showing what happens if you eat a high Carb and low Protein meal; that is, bad things happen. It's all about the carbs. I'm surprised that it went over your head.
Dressing up like a German tourist, that affected his aim.
Could it be read as a take on Fincher’s own role as a director? He’s know for being methodical. Would the Client represent the movie studio. This is what happens if you as a director “misses the target”?
Love the pun
Yo Alachia since a lot of newer movies seem to be s***** ever considered doing reviews of older films?
I do occasionally go over older films.
Seen "Paper Moon"? I thought it was a cute comedy. A young Tatum O'Neal won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role in this movie.
I have not seen Paper Moon. Was that this year?
It was released in 1973. 🙂
💯 Agree with this on what you said about the end of the movie (No Spoilers) 4:58 but still like it.
I loved this film. It was better than Netflix’s usual B Movies. The fight scene with the guy who owned a pit bull 🐂 was gritty af.
kind of true, but that hurdle is not that high :D
@@tomate3391true it’s subjective. It’s the first Netflix film I’ve finished in a long while. In terms of fight scenes I set the bar very high. Most Hollywood action scene are dull, this was very good. Also, it wasn’t predictable. I was expecting him to be on the run for the entirety of the film but instead it was a revenge plot.
I'm with you. David Fincher did such amazing movies back in the day, but nowadays he seems to have lost his vision, exemplified on this boring thriller, which is only scary by its massive failure, given the quality of the cast & the potential of the original material .....
Guess you never saw Mank or Minhunter.
@@kurtrivero368 Mindhunter is killer... more killer than The Killer.
It is a good movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not everything needs to have a point.
He kills people for money. Makes a mistake. He does get emotional and goes for revenge.
I want to request for you to do a rewview for "Anatomy of a Fall"; which is possibly the best film of the year (at least the best film I have seen). It is only in a handful of theatres, but it is on streaming I believe (Prime & Apple) -- and it is definitely a "See It Now". I want you to get the word out on this social commentary that a freak accident can never be just a freak accident; every weird death case has to be an episode of Dateline / 48 Hours, and that the Global Court System is "Guilty until presumed Guilty:.
It's a man on a mission. Good flick.
Delicious??? Oh nonononono get help please 😂😂😂
On a psychological level it was interesting. They showed the very nihilistic World were people just do bad things like they are drinking a cup of coffee. I liked how they didn´t made the killer a complete idiot, but a highly skilled and intellegent man who knows what is needed to be done. For a lot of people, this movie is going to be boring. But it is a beautiful filmed movie without much story to tell. I rate this movie with B+
I agree with the thumbnail. Like so many of Fincher’s films, with the exception of Se7en and Panic Room, this is a profoundly *empty* film. I only watched because of Fassbender, but as is sadly the case in recent films of his, he looked like his emotion chip was left in Data’s locker.
I understand his character is supposed to be eschewing emotion, but the ACTOR doesn’t show much animation or energy in this killer, either.
So many issues with this film for me:
1. With his stoic flyover of the process and prep in the beginning, I was surprised he missed. So, he is not that good at his job (at least in this instance.) But understand this is needed to get this plot line rolling.
2. He has done many a jobs before, but he didn't anticipate the blowback and get his girlfriend/wife to a safe place right away? Perhaps he had never missed.
3. Cleaning up the trail aspect makes no sense. Maybe the lawyer played that angle with the client to recover his sunk costs and get some kind of payment from this job. But, if redundancies have redundancies, then the killer should have been afforded other opportunities to finish the job. Or, a part of the standard arrangement from the lawyer should be that if they're a miss, the related expense comes out of the assassin's pay. Getting rid of a good asset for $150K just doesn't make sense.
4. Why kill the cabbie?
5. A trained hit woman fails pick up a tail.
Yeah. It was all so matter of fact. The fact that he has a "home" floored me.. especially one do lavish as if that wouldn't draw attention.
I'm a quarter through the comic book and it's actually good and had a real story. So confused why they didn't use it.
Needed an emotional support doggo for this!? Lol damn 😂
I did ♥️
@@Alachia Hopefully next year is a better year for cinema so your job will be easier!
The trailer was absolutely better than the movie itself
I think Fassbender was miscast. He didn't convince me as a killer - he was always an actor with a gun. Fincher is usually brilliant at casting, but I don't get this character at all. I think it would have been so much better with a Steve Buscemi or someone who had more going on 'inside' than another wannabe-Bateman.
It was awesome.
I'd recommend read the comic it's based on by French Artists Alexis Nolent and Luc Jacamon. It's great. If you didn't like the movie, try the comic out if you haven't.
I'm 170 pages into the comic right now and am really enjoying it
@@Alachia Honestly, and I don't blame the creators for agreeing to a movie deal cause money, I think some stories work better as comic form and others as films.
@@Alachia could you do a follow up and your thoughts on the comic when you finish it? I would like to hear your thoughts on the comic.
Did you ever see the episode he did for Love, Death, and Robots? So good! My favorite episode of that entire series
I've watched a lot of Love, Death, and Robots. Not sure which one was his.
@@Alachia his was the "Bad Traveling" episode with the crew on the ship with the giant murderous crab.
This film is full of amazing quotes that mainly comes from the unreliable narration of the anti-hero. My favorite is about his trip to Florida. "Ah. The Sunshine State. Where else can you find so many like-minded individuals, outside a penitentiary? Hope they're not planning a sleepover." I loved this film. It's not your typical assassin film. A typical assassin film is the dreadful remake of Winner/Bronson's Mechanic with Statham. The original Mechanic had a 15-20 minute opening with ZERO DIALOGUE. It's just Bronson studying his target from afar. The Hitman films were awful. I find this even better than The Man from Nowhere. Top 5 Fincher for me. Not for people who can't stand a classic thriller.
But this film is far from thrilling, or even interesting. The American (2010) is WAY better than this droll film, and has much more to say about the lifestyle, and about the human condition.
The movie was empty cuz there were no stakes. He didn't have to do any of it. No one was taken from him and no one was after him. Just his gf was hurt in the beginning and that was it. Even his boss said go and enjoy retirement and he just wanted to have a fit instead
David Fincher made a bad movie? We really are living in the end of times.
Did you watch Mank?
@@Alachia Since Mank was a family passion project (Fincher's dad wrote the script) I'll give him a pass.... but this? Not good.... not good at all.
@@Alachia No. Is that bad too?
The guy has never made a bad movie, imho.
@@sixtina1674 He's an all-time great... no doubt.
Love "The Killer" , slow but deliberate, good movie."
That The Point what your talking about That’s the Point of the story film …… the reality is should been made into Animation film or series since Netflix been doing some really good animation lately like Blue eye samurai and Arcane Bright samurai soul etc. And yes the comic is good well I liked it
Just let you know DV has finished adapting Dune Messiah (is the 2nd Book of 6 )so there will be Dune 3(in terms of films by DV).
I thought it was good for what it was, just needed more...more anything.
100% agree! Solid premise. COOL!!
But SUPER overused internal premise.
Well made.
EMPTY!!!
I watched this movie, but I could not finish it. It was sadly hollow. So many movies today are hollow.
Completely agree, it was kinda dead. The first 20-30 minutes I wanted to switch off, but there was nothing else on netflix ;)
This movie didn't do it for me. I tend to rate films based on if I want to see it again, and I don't. And sure, even crap appeals to somebody. Not me. Great review Queen.
I agree, but for me it was all the plot holes that took me out of it.
I hated this film. That entire monologue in the beginning and throughout the film I found completely insufferable- I HATE this kind of “I’m better and smarter than everyone else” type gibberish about “survival of the fittest” that whole Patrick Bateman type monologue bit in reality it doesn’t justify itself , it’s just empty patter, nonsense and not insightful or intelligent at all. I hated the way that character of the sniper was made to seem cool and calculated and intelligent and everyone else around him is just a dumb money. Terrible film garbage dialogue. B movie
Good observation
Fincher needs to stay as far away as possible from Walker. He's done nothing since writing Se7en. Mediocre at best. Did you see The Wolfman? I did so you didn't have to. Horrible.... Fincher needs better material. Sources that bring out the best of his talents. He's an all-time great so let's hope for the future.
I find this type of monologue fun to listen to because it's well written satirical drivel that the character believes in but we as the audience knows he's wrong.
Stick to the plan. Anticipate, don't improvise. Trust no one. Never yield an advantage. Fight only the battle you're paid to fight. Forbid empathy. Empathy is weakness. Weakness is vulnerability. Each and every step of the way, ask yourself, "what's in it for me?". This is what it takes. What you must commit yourself to. If you want to succeed. Simple.
@@brotherjohnnyxXxX zzzzzzzz
David Fincher gave conventional storytelling the middle finger and gave us something brave and new. The Killer may not be as complex as Fincher's most popular films - it's pretty straightforward, similar to Panic Room - but it still is an enjoyable ride; mostly because of Fassbender's excellent performance and David Fincher's impeccable direction.
Umm... sooo 'something brave and new' is simple and pretty straightforward?
@@greggibson33 I'd say so, yeah. It's not a contradiction.
If you're going to have the arrogance of throwing out traditional storytelling, you should at least replace it with something better
@@greenvelvet He did! At least that's what I think. Also, nihilistic sociopaths are able to maintain emotionally invested relationships.
I haven’t watched it yet but that’s disappointing to hear. Fincher is one of my favorite directors of all time, but I also think he hasn’t made a truly great film since Gone Girl in my opinion.
Will somebody please Make a “Golgo 13” live action Movie or TV series. And make it rated R. And leave modern social politics out of it. It would be cool if it was on Netflix, Apple TV or HBO Max. Anybody but Disney+/Hulu lol
Even a Ferrari can blow a tire.
Couldn't help but think: would it be this......uninteresting.....if it was released in theaters?
Was there budget issues?
Is it a Netflix thing? ( seems like it. He's phoning it in.)
It wasn't even shot in an interesting way. Sterile.
And I'm a fincher fan, from the early days. Fight Club, seven, even panic room. Mind hunter.
Netflix never does a theatrical release. They will do a tiny release window so it can screen for awards consideration but beyond that, it will never get a wide release. And yeah, it feels like he was phoning it in for this one.
I agree. It was super disappointing because it was by David Fincher.
I was surprised about all the positive reaction right after the movie came out on Netflix. For me it was a very boring experience. The whole plot made no sense. The movie never got the full pace it needed.
20min inner dialog, than traveling a home, than in the hospital than a bunch of easy kills, than one really good fighting scene and that was it. Not even a real show down. And in between a lot if things what a professional like him, would not do; at least in that careless manner.
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It's a pretty awesome city..
i thought it was a remake of the john woo movie
Far from it
No. I think your criticism is inaccurate. At least this movie is not emotionally empty. This movie is very emotional, from beginning to end. But if you watch this movie until the end, then what's the point? You may ask: But that doesn't mean the movie is empty.
All the effort that went into this film didn't make up for the cold and dark lead character. His escapades did not draw me in. Tilda Swinton added a much-needed boost with her appearance. The exhausting fight scene was so unbelievable when Fassbender escaped with a few scratches and didn't end up on life support. Meh!
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I too am a huge Fincher fan and for me this film was a total mess. In my opinion his worst film yet (and you’re right it’s simply just content for a large streaming service). Also I wish Hollywood would stop trying to make Fassbender a movie star, he is a character actor at best and certainly not leading male acting material. This has been proven countless times over as none of his films have been breakout hits outside of established superhero roles he’s undertaken where the character is the star and not the actor.
I have started reading the comic book. I have no idea why they didn't use more of that story... And yes, Fassbender was miscast for this character. It needed to be someone who was less plastic in emotion.
At least it's not Alien 3, a film so bad that David Fincher himself refuses to even say he made that film. Poor guy denies Alien 3 existence even though David Fincher himself made the film. 🤣
Take another shot.
Call your girlfriend and tell her to leave the house.
Don't kill the lawyer in the middle of the day at his office. You just got spotted dude.
Don't park your car outside an assassins house for a couple of days.
Don't walk into a restaurant full of witnesses and even leave your dna behind.
This entire film is about him and his principals and he keeps breaking them. Doesn't work if he's a complete id.iot to begin with. He would have been caught a million times over.
Exactly. The bozos falling over themselves praising this twaddle definitely spent as much time thinking about it afterwards as the screenwriter did creating it.
I saw it the same way you did. I also found it to be quite pretentious. It feels like the script was written by some young borderline depressed cave dweller. They should've just doubled down on the action side of things because there isn't much of substance here.
Totally agree - it's a completely empty film, there is no point to it and it lost me about 15 minutes in, as the assassination bungle at the start is ridiculous. It's so amateur for a so called professional and the central character lost any credibility at that point. I don't like The Smiths either! Probably Fincher's least satisfying film - it looks gorgeous though, but there's nothing under that varnish.
The movie was incredibly inconsistent and messy. Despite the killer's strong belief in himself, he was mindless to me. Claims to be indifferent and professional in a ho-hum fashion. Misses his shot and basically tells his boss s**t happens and shrugs it off. Sadly, for him, he's the only one who shrugs it off. So he must be REALLY mind-less. Then his girl friend is attacked and all of his professional principles, which he just spoke about, go out the window. His "trust no one" mantra obviously never existed given his trust in having a girlfriend. And show no empathy has no reality for him since he's now killing people for his love. Basically, the first third of the movie shows a bomb-- a nondescript killer of nondescript victims who, according to the killer, in the great world and scheme of things will not be missed. Then we witness an elaborate and mechanical action and escape from an unproductive task which is so well done that the movie slows into a dull pace that feels meaningless. So I had that question: what's the point here? To fail in your task, escape without suspense, travel and jump into different characters through various passports and credit cards, and then . . . . . . arrive home? Its like a James Bond movie with a boring hero who claims to have important things to do, but ends up meandering around on other peoples' dimes (his clients). Understandably, when his client become aware of this failure, he becomes upset. And its understandable when the killer company decides to knock killer off to make an extra buck. With killers like this, how do they stay in business? Its time to cut your losses and costs. I fail to see how this could be an riveting movie. And was disappointed since I really liked Fincher's other movies.
the point of this movie is the character study of how he presents a standard his forces himself to abide by - but as the film progresses, his code begins to crumble as he questions his job entirely. You think it's empty, I think you missed something.
I think YOU missed everything. Like the cliche of a hitman w/ no morals/feelings and a system, who suddenly has morals/feelings and goes against his system at nearly every turn.
I disagree. I think it was a very interesting character study. I liked the theme of the price of perfection or searching for perfection and the obsession of it in your job "This is what you must do to succeed" I think was the continuous mantra. One really gets the sense of someone who is lying to himself and is very unaware of it "I don't give a fuck" yet goes on a revenge mission. Also I really got a sense of his lost humanity when he had the convo with Swindons character. I also loved the ending because the whole movie you see this person who is so unaware of his inner emotions to the point that his inner dialogue contradicts with his actions (lack of emotional intelligence) something is bubbling under that is being suppressed, and at the end of the movie it's signified with a Subtle eye twitch. Also (I could be up my own ass with this one🙈) to a lesser extend the Meta commentary of Fincher being known as an obsessive director (director shoots movies, the protag is a sniper) the self discipline, sacrifice and probably it's the only way he knows how to approach creating, but is there a cost there that is probably not worth paying for the success?
Didn't even finish it. Came straight to the reviews to see if I am the only bored soul here. Just a dude traveling, renting cars, storing stuff... what a con of a movie!
I seen the movie it was just meh... Im glad I didnt go to the movies to watch it; Watched in Netflix.
Awful film. What should be the most thrilling moments are just literally nothing. Killing expert assassin was nothing. Killing the brute was just a fight. Nothing clever. Just nothingness for the whole film.
I sat down after dinner, clicked TH-cam and dead center there she was with that face. I knew this review was not going to be pretty.
And it wasn't.
It’s interesting that you seem to nail the point that his job could be anything… yet miss the very point.
As far as a world to bounce off… it is a critique of the totally disconnected post cap world we live in.
Notice how checked out everyone is and the interactions he has with countless people are entirely devoid of and content our awareness, and just how many human interactions can now be avoided in day to day life.
The obviousness over time will become more evident too everyone and someday most people who consider themselves film buffs will all claim they enjoy or “get it”… in similar fashion to American Psycho (which was not the case when it came out, it was large panned or disliked).
I didn't like the film @ all and Fassbinder's character is very terrible @ assassinating his targets
he was actually pretty accommodating to his victims.
I didn't enjoy the film at all, and sadly I don't have a dog to make it better.