He was actually indicted with at least 7 counts of various crimes as the war wound down, and it was concluded he could be held responsible for every crime his regime committed since it revolved so much around him.
The fact that he refused to leave Berlin means that he intended to commit suicide the whole time….he was also fearful that his own people would drug him and hand him over to the Allies/Russians to save themselves,hitler’s paranoia was unbounded and was reinforced with the attempted assassination by a group of dissident Wehrmacht officers,so I doubt that any of these scenarios though plausible was possible….
@@jf-rq5yi the rat lines were fully facilitated by elements inside the Vatican as well as certain other agencies allegedly members of the Red Cross….operation paper clip was an OSS program for smuggling out of Germany scientists and intelligence officers into the USA…the group most associated with the rat line was the “organisation der ehemaligen SS angehorigen”or commonly known as ODESSA….most of my information comes from various sources including memoirs of former german and allied officers and historical publications ….
@@aymaanskhan5194 the only reason I separated the allies from the Russians is for clarification,by 1945 the division between east and west was already hardening,correspondence between Truman and Churchill clearly show this as well as communication between Zhukov and Stalin….
My thoughts are that there was always a 0% chance of him ever being captured alive after 1939 - even if he wasn't determined to avoid capture at all costs - there arguably wouldn't have been an allied solider on the planet who wouldn't have pulled the trigger at that point. The reality is that any witnesses would likely have agreed to remain silent on it, even in the event of being tried for it there would be massive negative publicity for any punishment dished out in that situation, especially as it would presumably involve multiple soldiers as none would admit to it or grass their comrade in. History has told us plenty of times that this is generally the way it goes down, it's rare that someone of that standing makes it out to stand trial, especially in the days before cameras were in most pockets within 100 metres!
I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have had a gun with him at all times. Even then, he could just resist capture and get the allies to shoot him, since otherwise, he was going to be killed anyway. The allied soldiers probably wouldn't have needed a whole lot of persuasion to do him the favor.
9:25 Again in all these scenarios, he would have rather killed himself than be captured. So instead of dropping the gun, he would have shot himself from what we have seen happen in the real world
No there is a big difference to being alive when you are wining the war that you so strongly believe in then being alive when you know all hope is lost. Think about if it was you but there was hope for your cause by you being alive (And with a slight chance that you could be intercepted and freed) and being a simple to you army and loyal generals but how that would be very different if you knew you already lost the war and would be the most hated man on Earth. Those are 2 very different scenarios.
Mussolini was first betrayed by his high rank fascists hierarchs , then killed by the same italian people that cheered him up for his war against the allies and soviet. So those would have been two completely different ends.
At the end of the day, he took his own life instead of standing by his convictions and looking the people he wronged in the eye. What a pathetic coward. I wonder how many of our world leaders would have followed his example...
@@user-vo1fq4tx2c And a debunked one at that, despite what the fake History Channel series about “finding” him was trying to have people believe. He‘s actually been identified using dental records to show that the Russians actually have his corpse or at least enough forensic evidence to prove his identity.
If WWII was prevented in Europe, I wonder what Japan would've done. Maybe when they hear about the quick defeat of the Nazis by the Allies, they decide that provoking the United States and its allies isn't worth it.
Would the US even had joined the European theater if the Nazis lost early? The US really joined the war when Japan attacked and then Germany declared war in respond to the US joining WW2. I imagine that the Pacific theater would have still happened even without Germany in the equation because Japan saw war with the west as their best option.
@@benjaminaraya8073 but japanese already signed the pact with germany and italy. i doubt they would still attack the west because they would know they would be by themselves with the allies full attention on them. i doubt japan is that dumb
The scenario where he used the trial as a platform and inspired a small but outspoken minority actually happened. When he first tried to take power by force and was stopped, he was put on trial. During his trial, he did just that. He garnered a lot of sympathy and used the trial to bring attention to his cause.
Yeah but that was before he had killed 6 million People for being Jewish and before he kicked off the most deadly conflict in human history. It’s a stretch to think a substantial enough amount of people would’ve given his arguments any kind of credence at that point.
@@nicolascaballero1320 don't forget the 7 million Roma, homosexuals, pols, Russians, slavs etc. People always talk about the 6 million jews but forget everyone else.
Because he faced a court that was already sympathetic to a lot of his beliefs. He had a handicap there that he would not have had in a post-WWII trial. The antics that the Bavarian court permitted would not have been tolerated by a Nuremberg Trials one.
The Brits and Americans probably just sentence him to death, the French would execute him via an immediate firing squad, and the Soviets would do much worse than the latter combined.
Insanity plea. Stalin already figured that AH was mentally insane when he started a 2-front war, with the Eastern front against a vast land and stretch of thousands of miles against his supply lines.
Why would there be defense lawyer, who is not a nazi, I mean you're supporting a criminal who has committed horrible atrocities. I say he should have not be given a trial at all and just thrown away in the darkest dungeon
6:50 Yup, that could have happened if they had given him a platform to speak. He was an excellent speech giver and used to captivate everyone with his speech
@@briannerk3373 wow very clever bringing modern politics into history Thank you for ur otherwise useless input that strives to do nothing but bash the party ur against 🙂
Well, that would've been very illegal. So they couldn't torture him to death... Unless people thought he was already dead before we got to him.... but we actually capture him and told people he had killed himself.
Im sure if they captured him there would have been intense torture eventually leading up to his death too many people hated him for personal losses to give him a quick death or to let him see the light of day.
Imagine seeing the guy who caused a whole world war, killed half of your entire country population, nearly all of your family members died because of him and that guy is right under your gunpoint
No it would have been the same fate, Germans had no oil the only reason they invaded Stalingrad was to close and get all the caucas oil fields. If they never invaded their fate is the same, they would have lost still due to lack of supplies.
The bolsheviks slaughtered so many white Christian’s. This is never spoken about though since we basically helped the Soviet Union beat Germany we were sending them supplies
But executed nearly all of those criminals. The only ones who survived were those who had been talked out of prison (and most likely bailed out thanks to generous german tax payers) by the decrepit Adenauer.
@@florians.849 The fact that you said generous German tax players is a bit odd, also, no, that wouldn't happen. Finally, Germany did the same, why is this news to you?
Don’t forget, Poland was attacked by both Germany and The Soviet Union as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact. So the Allies would most likely have had to battle the Red Army in the beginning of the war.
Lol they would not 1. Nobody likes to go and die in foreign territory for another country for no good reason 2. They were guilty as everyone else for starting this war so there was no point in trying to be a hero
He would not had been allowed to off himself and if by some oddity he was not executed after being found guilty by whoever prosecuted him. His life in prison would had been a show with him likely being paraded at his prison every victory day and perhaps every indepence day for the major players in the war.
If he'd actually been caught, I'm sure they'd planned to put him in a gas chamber, with a windowed view of survivors & relatives of his victims all watching.
The scenario where he is allowed to defend himself in trial in Moscow, gets rescued by his sympathizers and builds up his power in South America to start WW3 sounds like something that would make perfect alt history mod for Hearts of Iron 4
@@Kingdomkid613 well I guess saying consistently bad is a bit rude because they are bad just sometimes don’t really know much about what there talking about and there animation is ok but it doesn’t really visualize things very well and they can be mislead and lean into a lot of myths about ww2 if you want to start learning about history and stuff from channels like this or simple history it’s ok just it shouldn’t be people,s only information scarce that’s 100% right.
If he realised he couldn't commit suicide but then realised they were going to blow open the door of the bunker with explosives, wouldn't that have been the time to not dive out of the way lol
One of the greater minds in human history is an 'idiot'? And this is coming from an average joe who identifies himself as a wine bottle and a lamp at the same time
@@shamanbhattacharyya9285 the Soviet Union literally killed all of its good commanders from the Russian civil war, and got beat up by Finland and your saying that they looked intimidating
If captured alive in 1945 by the Soviet Union I assume he would've had a show trial leading to conviction and likely a death sentence with no permission for him to make any kind of argument or statements. The big question for me is if it would've been a quick trial of one or a few days, or a long, drawn-out trial lasting weeks. And if captured alive in 1945 by USA, France or Britain I'll assume his case would've been heard as one of the Nuremburg trials which was a process where defendants were allowed to make counteraguments. I think he still would've been convicted with a death sentence same as military commanders Keitel and Jodl as well as foreign minister von Ribbentrop who were tried there.
He would of been tortured. No way he would of not have gotten tortured. He knew this to. He knew he was hated and would of suffered a hellish death as he should. People that do evil things and get caught always take the cowards way out because they know if what they did happened to them would be awful. Hence why he committed suicide.
There was a plan to keep Hitlar prisoner in the Tower of London, the cell still exists in the King's house in the centre of the tower as he would have been a personal prisoner of the governor of the Tower. Most likely the trial would have taken place in the tower of London and the sentence likewise would have taken place within the safety of the tower walls.
If the Nazis were stopped early on, I wonder what this would have meant for Japan. Would there still have been an eventual conflict with Japan? Would Japan still attempt Pearl Harbor to control their Pacific interests? I think conflict with Japan would have definitely come sooner or later with their imperial expansion. Also rises the question with the Soviet Union, without the advancements of Von Braun in WW2, would there have been a Cold War? What could the Soviet Union have been?
There absolutely would have been, but Japan would as expected, go down much faster and possibly before 1941, depending on what the soviets got up to in the wake of the nazis being dismembered in 1939. I'd expect the buildup of US forces to continue exactly as it actually had, and without a shattered France or chaotic British commonwealth, it may well be the end of the _soviets_ that happens in 1945.
Japan's need for resources would have led to a Pacific war regardless of what happened in Europe. A Pearl Harbour attack may have been likely, too. Without a European war to divide US war efforts the full might is focused on Japan, to end the war much earlier.
Besides, Japan was already at war with China. If nothing else, that conflict would've continued, and Japan would still be facing a massive oil shortage with the U.S. oil embargo.
the oil embargo happened because of the seizure of parts of vichy france's indochina, without the fall of france there wouldn't be a vichy france to hand them over, although the possibility of the americans trying to find other reasons to embargo japan is also rather likely
second scenario nearly happened in 1943 during Soviet winter offensive after Stalingrad. They were like 100 km away from hitler's location but the didn't know it
I believe in an interview that happened with his then secretary, she explains that he told her he felt too weak to fight back like that. She said they would regularly discuss suicide over dinner while in the bunker. Crazy stuff.
Its mostly speculative fiction that will never happen. It's either heavily pessimistic/ has a us bias or is dramatic for entertainment. But okay man... That doesn't mean it isn't fun though--but informative? lol
@@sebastiaandejong4378 if Germany and Japan weren’t allies Pearl Harbor could have still happened but Germany didn’t have to declare war. So basically American forces would have only focused on Asia.
2:46 Tanks run over the countryside with a hay field and wagon... but the machinery to make large round hay bales was not invented until the early 1970s.
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there's no way he could have restarted the movement after being captured. towards the end of the war he abandoned his public speaking, because he had lost his main talent. his talent was his ability to read a crowd and know exactly what they wanted him to say and say it. but by the end of the war, the crowds didn't want him to say any more about invading, killing, exterminating. at a trial the only people who would go in person would be very hostile. also those closest to him, and his generals, described how nearing the end of the war he basically went crazy. he was so narcissistic and in denial that they could possibly lose that if generals ever retreated he would fire them or even execute them, so most in that situation committed suicide. he was fighting on too many fronts and spread his troops way to thin especially on the eastern front. a general would say 'we have no tanks, we have lost most of the division and there are only a few hundred soldiers left riddled with disease vs fit Russians with heavy artillery' and he would just say 'but our soldiers are germans, if we lose then its your fault' and was basically throwing away all the resources he had left. if he somehow ascended to power again this would only continue and it would be a very swift downfall. he become shaky, with a limp, skinny, pale, and ill, he was not fit for public presentation or speaking and had frequent psychological breakdowns. for months before they even neared Berlin he was refusing to leave his bunker and made most generals come to him in his hole for meetings.
@@shadowmancy9183 Hitler's personal physician was a quack who prescribed him various drugs. Undoubtedly this fuelled his increasingly deranged behaviour.
The final scenario shows why it is best to intervene early rather than when it’s too late. This could be applied to the current conflict in Ukraine, but the nuclear deterrent complicates things
Good job with the possibles scenarios shown here. There is one aspect left behind and not considered... The capture OR death sentence of Adolf could have made him a reason to fight (if captured) or a martyr (if killed) in the view of his followers. It´s a long shot, but not impossible aspect.
3:38 he wouldn’t go down anywhere this nicely if he was in hands of an angry Soviet mob. I also do not think he would plead for mercy. None of his subordinates did.
I have always wanted to see a video like this and I could never find a video about this what if even when searching it up or recommending the idea to channels like alternative history hub so thanks for finally making one of my what if thiughts a reality
It can not be made more clear just how good of a thing it was that hitlers Germany lost the war, and badly. I can't even imagine the world we'd be living in where Germany won.
Here’s an interesting idea for a future video: What would happen if Kim Il-Sung and his family had been captured by the Allied forces during the Korean War? 🧐
@바보 Either that, or Kim Il-Sung and several high-ranking North Korean military officials would face criminal charges at the UN International Court of Justice in The Hague, The Netherlands with a long list of criminal charges regarding human rights abuses and war crimes during the Korean War with potentially hundreds and thousands of witness testimonies.
@@spanglish_official Yes, I am aware of that. I’m also aware that war crimes and many atrocities were committed by American troops in the Korean War. However, I think it’s also important to remember who invaded and attacked South Korea first without provocation and committed the same atrocities to South Koreans, Americans, and their OWN people in the North.
The dismantling of the British Empire would have been a lot slower than in our timeline. India would still have left the Empire at some point, but Britain would have held onto chunks of the Empire in other parts of the world.
Goehring was actually a very very clever man, his problem was his morphine addiction through the war. People said when he was on trial at Nuremburg his interlect was incredible as he wasn't on morphine anymore..
“Stalin would have looked at him in contempt” Both men were monsters committing genocides. They would probably have looked at each other with admiration.
The scenario of him having a platform to speak would be real accurate tbh I mean look at the world today he is dead and his empire fell yet there are still those in modern times who believe in his ideals and philosophies their numbers growing and radical groups springing up in just about every part of the world
Not true. There are leftists who incessantly compare everyone who disagrees with their oppressive and suffocating ideologies to “Nazis” so you THINK there are still those in modern times who “believe in his ideals”. If you want to know who’s in control - think about who you’re NOT allowed to criticize. Really. Think about it.
No matter what group empire or cult even if the leader dies there ideas will always keep going just cause the head died sometimes it doesn’t mean there done. Groups that large won’t simply stop believing they will continue in the shadow. People who influence that hard won’t ever go away with out leaving a big stain on earth. I’m sure there’s plenty of secret society’s who play a big part behind the government that’s just how some places are.
Stallin was bad and people hated him in Russia for everything he had done but when an army like the German behaves so bad that the red army was looked as liberators of many countries including its own citizens , is even difficult to understand how the world react.@@Music_Iz_life
This is all very interesting. But in the intro to the scenario of the beginning of the war, the statement is incorrect. Adolf had no plans of mass genocide at that point. The first plan was to gather the jews and undesirables and then exile them to Madagascar. This didn't work out and he had his top ranks like Himmler and Goering come up with "the final solution". That's why it's called that, it wasn't solution number 1. In reality, they came up with the gruesome plan. But he's still a monster because he had to approve everything they did.
The 3rd scenario is extremely unlikely. Britain and France were in no position to fight a war even at the beginning of the conflict (hence why Germany curb stomped them for the first few years), and America was so isolationist, it took being attacked by Japan and Germany declaring war on them to get them involved.
Regardless of what he did why do people portray him as a coward? He received several medals for bravery, volunteered to go back to the trenches when he had a ticket home, volunteered the most dangerous jobs. Can't label the guy a coward
@@alexcc8664 he choose to die and take the easy way out rather than surrender and face justice. He belived till his last breath that he wasnt at fault for the german defeat but that the german population was at fault.
@@alexcc8664 That can’t be proven he killed himself yes there was a body but it was never identified to actually be him. There’s lot of evidence to suggest he escaped Berlin and went to South America but once again that can’t be proven. There’s lot of interesting docs on subject.
exactly, he told his generals to fight to the very last man and never retreat, but he committed suicide before the allies reached him because he didn't want to face what he literally told his own soldiers to do.
Can you imagine if he actually went to trial. The amount of charges against him would be insane
They would probably have to invent new criminal acts never thought of before to charge him
@Mister Black oh yeah he was a monster who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of his own people
Probably just a conspiracy charge
He was actually indicted with at least 7 counts of various crimes as the war wound down, and it was concluded he could be held responsible for every crime his regime committed since it revolved so much around him.
They'd have to mention them by the dozens
The fact that he refused to leave Berlin means that he intended to commit suicide the whole time….he was also fearful that his own people would drug him and hand him over to the Allies/Russians to save themselves,hitler’s paranoia was unbounded and was reinforced with the attempted assassination by a group of dissident Wehrmacht officers,so I doubt that any of these scenarios though plausible was possible….
At that time nothing was certain and also at that time russia was an Allie
@@jf-rq5yi the rat lines were fully facilitated by elements inside the Vatican as well as certain other agencies allegedly members of the Red Cross….operation paper clip was an OSS program for smuggling out of Germany scientists and intelligence officers into the USA…the group most associated with the rat line was the “organisation der ehemaligen SS angehorigen”or commonly known as ODESSA….most of my information comes from various sources including memoirs of former german and allied officers and historical publications ….
@@aymaanskhan5194 the only reason I separated the allies from the Russians is for clarification,by 1945 the division between east and west was already hardening,correspondence between Truman and Churchill clearly show this as well as communication between Zhukov and Stalin….
He also didnt like how old Benni was mutilated when he was captured.
He really didnt want to go down that way.
@@aymaanskhan5194 they were leaders of the comintern though
Short answer: He would've met the same fate as most of the Nuremberg defendants.
So either hung from the neck until death, or shot by a firing squad? Sounds about right.
@@decimation9780 none of them faced a firing squad. the allies didn't believe they deserved the dignity of one.
@@Emigdiosback A firing squad is too quick of a death for war criminals.
@@Emigdiosback
Some did get executed but not the ones that mattered. Like Hitler's right-hand or top brass generals.
@These-Edibles-Ain't-Shit! Goering was scheduled for it, but committed suicide.
My thoughts are that there was always a 0% chance of him ever being captured alive after 1939 - even if he wasn't determined to avoid capture at all costs - there arguably wouldn't have been an allied solider on the planet who wouldn't have pulled the trigger at that point. The reality is that any witnesses would likely have agreed to remain silent on it, even in the event of being tried for it there would be massive negative publicity for any punishment dished out in that situation, especially as it would presumably involve multiple soldiers as none would admit to it or grass their comrade in. History has told us plenty of times that this is generally the way it goes down, it's rare that someone of that standing makes it out to stand trial, especially in the days before cameras were in most pockets within 100 metres!
I mean, a Soviet soldier would definitely give him a painful death, not a fast and painless death of a bullet.
Heck, I'd have been happy to be the one who pulled the trigger.
The soldiers would have tortured him before pulling the trigger. At least a little.
@@Mehwhatevr Probably.
kaboom
if he forgot his “suicide kit” he most likely would’ve just shot himself with his or one of his men’s weapons
..or even just stayed behind the door when he heard the ticking?
Assuming they would've been willing to hand over one of their weapons.
@@del69blue i was thinking the same lol. The video said he wanted to sucide but hears ticking and runs to safety
I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have had a gun with him at all times. Even then, he could just resist capture and get the allies to shoot him, since otherwise, he was going to be killed anyway. The allied soldiers probably wouldn't have needed a whole lot of persuasion to do him the favor.
@@Sercil00 Yeah, he might as well have brought out that powered armor and chain guns and forced B. J. Blazkowicz to do him in.
If he was captured by the soviets I can only imagine what they would have done to him. The tortures he would have endured would have been crazy
@@truthhurts9819Just like Putin deserves today
Imagine if they just threw him in the gulag.
@@cojosox8211He wouldnt last a day, the prisoners there are tough..
Worst I can think of the Soviets could do hand him over to Beria
Same thing they did to Castro
9:25 Again in all these scenarios, he would have rather killed himself than be captured. So instead of dropping the gun, he would have shot himself from what we have seen happen in the real world
He didn’t hill himself because they said they’d bill him? I gotta agree with you bud
@@stopcommentingshit bill him? Is that like a duck bill snapping at you. Lol. Just teasing
Maybe the idea is he thought he'd be rescued
No there is a big difference to being alive when you are wining the war that you so strongly believe in then being alive when you know all hope is lost. Think about if it was you but there was hope for your cause by you being alive (And with a slight chance that you could be intercepted and freed) and being a simple to you army and loyal generals but how that would be very different if you knew you already lost the war and would be the most hated man on Earth. Those are 2 very different scenarios.
Or he stays alive and shuts downs all the insane exaggerations and propaganda.
If the Soviets captured him in the bunker I don't even think he would've left Germany, the sure that man would've been "Mussolinied"🤣🤣
Bro would have gotten WAYYY worse treatment than the “Mussolini treatment”
Mussolini was first betrayed by his high rank fascists hierarchs , then killed by the same italian people that cheered him up for his war against the allies and soviet.
So those would have been two completely different ends.
No the soviets would of made it public what was going to happen to him
@0Never1 Media I don’t think he was a cross dresser
@0Never1 Media thats kinda dark
At the end of the day, he took his own life instead of standing by his convictions and looking the people he wronged in the eye. What a pathetic coward. I wonder how many of our world leaders would have followed his example...
He actually lived and fled to Argentina to live the rest of his life!
@@InfiniteNight1653 It's both. They're not mutually exclusive.
@@danielsoto8601 that's just a theory
@@user-vo1fq4tx2c And a debunked one at that, despite what the fake History Channel series about “finding” him was trying to have people believe. He‘s actually been identified using dental records to show that the Russians actually have his corpse or at least enough forensic evidence to prove his identity.
@@user-vo1fq4tx2c a history theory
If WWII was prevented in Europe, I wonder what Japan would've done. Maybe when they hear about the quick defeat of the Nazis by the Allies, they decide that provoking the United States and its allies isn't worth it.
Would the US even had joined the European theater if the Nazis lost early? The US really joined the war when Japan attacked and then Germany declared war in respond to the US joining WW2. I imagine that the Pacific theater would have still happened even without Germany in the equation because Japan saw war with the west as their best option.
@@benjaminaraya8073 but japanese already signed the pact with germany and italy. i doubt they would still attack the west because they would know they would be by themselves with the allies full attention on them. i doubt japan is that dumb
@@benjaminaraya8073 the USA people were dead set against another European war. Had FDR pushed it, he would have been voted out of office.
I'd Think the USA and Japan would still have a War. It just wouldn't be at the same level as WWII.
They were not scared of the u.s
The scenario where he used the trial as a platform and inspired a small but outspoken minority actually happened. When he first tried to take power by force and was stopped, he was put on trial. During his trial, he did just that. He garnered a lot of sympathy and used the trial to bring attention to his cause.
Yeah but that was before he had killed 6 million People for being Jewish and before he kicked off the most deadly conflict in human history. It’s a stretch to think a substantial enough amount of people would’ve given his arguments any kind of credence at that point.
@@nicolascaballero1320 don't forget the 7 million Roma, homosexuals, pols, Russians, slavs etc. People always talk about the 6 million jews but forget everyone else.
This made his father happy, you gifted him hamesomly
In 1945 he was just a shell of his old self - no longer able to rant for hours in self-aggrandisement.
Because he faced a court that was already sympathetic to a lot of his beliefs. He had a handicap there that he would not have had in a post-WWII trial. The antics that the Bavarian court permitted would not have been tolerated by a Nuremberg Trials one.
"The allies saw these genocidal plans. This angered the allies who punished him severely"
HAHA I GET IT
How bout his father tho
@@Tofu6969 he did the same😂
I see you are a man of culture
Aaaay oversimplified fan
I can't be the only one to think that killing him is letting him off too easy
Same. Also, I can't imagine him not being tortured repeatedly both for information and revenge.
Nope. I agree. Way too easy.
I've some ideas for future cases of 'this'
Stalin thought the same.
The Brits and Americans probably just sentence him to death, the French would execute him via an immediate firing squad, and the Soviets would do much worse than the latter combined.
Stalin: There can be only one moustache.
Lol
Stalin: There can be only left to ride on the dragons back
I wonder which one would have shaved theirs off ... 😆😅🤣😂🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
*Worst possible case scenario for a defense lawyer EVER*
No chance of a light sentence!!
Melt
Insanity plea. Stalin already figured that AH was mentally insane when he started a 2-front war, with the Eastern front against a vast land and stretch of thousands of miles against his supply lines.
Why would there be defense lawyer, who is not a nazi, I mean you're supporting a criminal who has committed horrible atrocities. I say he should have not be given a trial at all and just thrown away in the darkest dungeon
Saul Goodman + being on drugs + being insane plea and done
6:50 Yup, that could have happened if they had given him a platform to speak. He was an excellent speech giver and used to captivate everyone with his speech
My mother-in-law was alive during the time and said when he spoke it was like magic
His fry speech got him a reduced sentence during his trial for a failed Munich coupe attempt in 1924.
And trump supporters would be enamored by his "inspirational" speeches!
@@briannerk3373 wow very clever bringing modern politics into history
Thank you for ur otherwise useless input that strives to do nothing but bash the party ur against 🙂
@@APersonOnTH-camX its true.
"Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat." - A. H.
Is this fate or just a coincidence that adolf agrees to your comment this is A real good youtube channel love it
well he cant bear defeat, he just delayed the inevitable
@Adolf Hitler Suiciding yourself is not exactly dealing with defeat. Its escaping the reality of it.
@Adolf Hitler Also you were too liberal
I’d imagine he would be brutally tortured. Like I’m talking cartel types of torture
yeah i was gonna say i cant imagine they'd just shoot him he'd probably just be a pile of guts tbh
he should have gotten the mussolini method
Well, that would've been very illegal. So they couldn't torture him to death... Unless people thought he was already dead before we got to him.... but we actually capture him and told people he had killed himself.
Very slowly
If Russians got him - torture for sure. Others would probably just hang him after trial.
Im sure if they captured him there would have been intense torture eventually leading up to his death too many people hated him for personal losses to give him a quick death or to let him see the light of day.
Me too. They would have prolonged his suffering so no gun would have been used
@@nemopouncey3827 Yea sure, live your delusional world
Imagine seeing the guy who caused a whole world war, killed half of your entire country population, nearly all of your family members died because of him and that guy is right under your gunpoint
@@nemopouncey3827 very detailed lol
@@Philip54622 the first
country to capture him first.
oh some will have big plans for him.😈
Idea for a video: what if the nazis never invaded stalingrad, was this going to make a difference in this world nowadays?
No it would have been the same fate, Germans had no oil the only reason they invaded Stalingrad was to close and get all the caucas oil fields. If they never invaded their fate is the same, they would have lost still due to lack of supplies.
you mean the Soviets right?
@@joelott531 yeah, stalingrad was in soviet union, but they invaded only stalingrad if i am not mistaken...
@@kleber_5004 they invaded a lot of Soviet Union not just Stalingrad.
Wait I think your question is what if nazis never invaded soviets?
Shakes in fear? he ran through gunfire and artillery to deliver letters in ww1 for fun.
Yeah, he was a brave man, the Allies were wussies and tried to save the wrong people
He got extremely paranoid towards the end of his life
Parkinson's disease made him shake, and also intensified his already considerable paranoia. 😮
@@paytonwells5815cus he was on that Heisenberg blue
In reality there were only two outcomes either suicide or he dies fighting
Back then, even the Soviets were monsters.
The bolsheviks slaughtered so many white Christian’s. This is never spoken about though since we basically helped the Soviet Union beat Germany we were sending them supplies
@@darrellchavez7194Yeah you are right.
Yeah, they were monsters because they killed fascist. Cry more fascist.
@@darrellchavez7194 because some people in america actually like that
Soviets have always been monsters
1:29
The Soviets didnt fight for Germany in a few months, they had fought 4 years, and no, they did take prisoners
But executed nearly all of those criminals. The only ones who survived were those who had been talked out of prison (and most likely bailed out thanks to generous german tax payers) by the decrepit Adenauer.
@@florians.849 The fact that you said generous German tax players is a bit odd, also, no, that wouldn't happen.
Finally, Germany did the same, why is this news to you?
The thing is... how can these videos be so real like a historical movie?
Don’t forget, Poland was attacked by both Germany and The Soviet Union as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact. So the Allies would most likely have had to battle the Red Army in the beginning of the war.
Patton would have been all for it!!!
@@jeromedavid7944 Except that Japan may not have attacked America in this scenario - so the USA could have remained neutral....
@@davidm3118 perhaps.
Lol they would not
1. Nobody likes to go and die in foreign territory for another country for no good reason
2. They were guilty as everyone else for starting this war so there was no point in trying to be a hero
@@Vuk3 if France and England defended Poland, the Soviets may have attacked France and England. That is my point.
Even if he was caught I’d very much doubt he would have gone to trial without killing himself in prison
He would not had been allowed to off himself and if by some oddity he was not executed after being found guilty by whoever prosecuted him. His life in prison would had been a show with him likely being paraded at his prison every victory day and perhaps every indepence day for the major players in the war.
and the soldiers who caught him
will get put in the history books
at school.
an will all get a medal of honor.
@@GAndreC You’d be surprised.
@@GAndreC and needless to say, he would undoubtedly get his cheeks busted and his wig split umpteen times until they execute him
If he'd actually been caught, I'm sure they'd planned to put him in a gas chamber, with a windowed view of survivors & relatives of his victims all watching.
The scenario where he is allowed to defend himself in trial in Moscow, gets rescued by his sympathizers and builds up his power in South America to start WW3 sounds like something that would make perfect alt history mod for Hearts of Iron 4
You gotta be the most consistent TH-camr ever
Dont forget about his team, its imposible to animate record and do all that stuff with just him , gotta give credit to his team 🙏
Yes his channel is consistently bad 👍
@@ilikeships9333 you don't like the content?
@@Kingdomkid613 well I guess saying consistently bad is a bit rude because they are bad just sometimes don’t really know much about what there talking about and there animation is ok but it doesn’t really visualize things very well and they can be mislead and lean into a lot of myths about ww2 if you want to start learning about history and stuff from channels like this or simple history it’s ok just it shouldn’t be people,s only information scarce that’s 100% right.
@@Kingdomkid613 and when I watch this video it’s pretty clear they just open wiki articles and don’t actually know what there talking about.
If he realised he couldn't commit suicide but then realised they were going to blow open the door of the bunker with explosives, wouldn't that have been the time to not dive out of the way lol
He might've still avoided it out of instinct. It would've at least been a more painful way to go than most suicide and execution methods.
Thanks for the upload!
I doubt he would have been given the Napoleon treatment: living the rest of his days on a secluded island in the middle of nowhere.
Napoleon wasnt a bad man
@@treyg8148 yeah, Leopold II was much worse, but he got statues of him instead. Abhorrent…
He would've been given the Jesus treatment
As a wise man once said "don't defeat an idiot by being an idiot"
Which ever way you DEFEAT the idiot is OK. Rather, you meant " You CAN'T defeat an idiot by being an idiot!
But he wasn’t a idoit?
One of the greater minds in human history is an 'idiot'? And this is coming from an average joe who identifies himself as a wine bottle and a lamp at the same time
@@imbored7143 ofc he was. He was delusional in thinking that he could defeat the Soviet union.
@@shamanbhattacharyya9285 the Soviet Union literally killed all of its good commanders from the Russian civil war, and got beat up by Finland and your saying that they looked intimidating
Charlie Chaplin shaves off his mustache immediately
"How to say you're out of topics without saying you're out of topics"
FR ITS LITERALLY SO RANDOM VIDEO IDEA
Its interesting, whatever.
nobody made you watch this, you know.
"How to say you're out of topics without saying you're out of topics" ----->> Just Shut Up!
Why you watching
If captured alive in 1945 by the Soviet Union I assume he would've had a show trial leading to conviction and likely a death sentence with no permission for him to make any kind of argument or statements. The big question for me is if it would've been a quick trial of one or a few days, or a long, drawn-out trial lasting weeks. And if captured alive in 1945 by USA, France or Britain I'll assume his case would've been heard as one of the Nuremburg trials which was a process where defendants were allowed to make counteraguments. I think he still would've been convicted with a death sentence same as military commanders Keitel and Jodl as well as foreign minister von Ribbentrop who were tried there.
He would of been tortured. No way he would of not have gotten tortured. He knew this to. He knew he was hated and would of suffered a hellish death as he should. People that do evil things and get caught always take the cowards way out because they know if what they did happened to them would be awful. Hence why he committed suicide.
Imagine his defense
@@kurtisvandermiller4507 What wrong did he do besides lost the war?
@@toffi0 this has to be a bait or troll comment right?
There was a plan to keep Hitlar prisoner in the Tower of London, the cell still exists in the King's house in the centre of the tower as he would have been a personal prisoner of the governor of the Tower. Most likely the trial would have taken place in the tower of London and the sentence likewise would have taken place within the safety of the tower walls.
0:36 Wouldn't he have just stood there hoping to have been killed by the explosion?
Video Idea: What if operation valkyrie was successful.
If the Nazis were stopped early on, I wonder what this would have meant for Japan. Would there still have been an eventual conflict with Japan? Would Japan still attempt Pearl Harbor to control their Pacific interests? I think conflict with Japan would have definitely come sooner or later with their imperial expansion.
Also rises the question with the Soviet Union, without the advancements of Von Braun in WW2, would there have been a Cold War? What could the Soviet Union have been?
There absolutely would have been, but Japan would as expected, go down much faster and possibly before 1941, depending on what the soviets got up to in the wake of the nazis being dismembered in 1939. I'd expect the buildup of US forces to continue exactly as it actually had, and without a shattered France or chaotic British commonwealth, it may well be the end of the _soviets_ that happens in 1945.
Japan's need for resources would have led to a Pacific war regardless of what happened in Europe. A Pearl Harbour attack may have been likely, too.
Without a European war to divide US war efforts the full might is focused on Japan, to end the war much earlier.
Besides, Japan was already at war with China. If nothing else, that conflict would've continued, and Japan would still be facing a massive oil shortage with the U.S. oil embargo.
the oil embargo happened because of the seizure of parts of vichy france's indochina, without the fall of france there wouldn't be a vichy france to hand them over, although the possibility of the americans trying to find other reasons to embargo japan is also rather likely
Also the Japanese Miracle would have never happen, Japan wouldn’t have been so modernized
If he went to trial, it would've taken hours to read his sentencing
go through all the trouble of building a bunker and don't even have a secret escape tunnel built?
he never wanted to escape. he was determined that if he lost the war he would commit suicide, he didn't want to go the way of Mussolini.
second scenario nearly happened in 1943 during Soviet winter offensive after Stalingrad. They were like 100 km away from hitler's location but the didn't know it
Still too far
There's no way he'd drop his pistol. He'd try and cut down as many allies as he can before he'd be killed.
I reckon he 100% would have turned it on himself in that event.
I believe in an interview that happened with his then secretary, she explains that he told her he felt too weak to fight back like that. She said they would regularly discuss suicide over dinner while in the bunker. Crazy stuff.
What a legend
@@edjohnson8017 😭💀
@@edjohnson8017 what
This would be a great idea for a movie.
It really would
The passion of adolf
You should do a video on Churchill's crimes in india and Africa
He already did bozo
@@Trontotario no he didnt smuck
@@lightningboltt5437 he did
@@lightningboltt5437 he mentioned it in the hero’s who did bad
@@lightningboltt5437 your recent reply’s are about war crimes western did which shows you most likely have a grudge against them
You described this alt history so well it sounds like it was real, good job
His arrogance made him think that he and Germany were invincible so it probably wasn’t a thought
Great video great job , keep up the great work !
The NKVD wouldve treated him very humanely.
I literally laughed reading that
What is the NKVD?
@@ronpaullavarro8073 Percursor to the KGB.
This was a very interesting idea, great video
Your videos are very entertaining,informative and interesting,keep it up!
Informative is a stretch don’t take this as truth only it’s mostly very simplified things this is for entertainment not study.
Its mostly speculative fiction that will never happen. It's either heavily pessimistic/ has a us bias or is dramatic for entertainment. But okay man...
That doesn't mean it isn't fun though--but informative? lol
Scenario 40, what if aliens kidnapped him
Respect To The Camera Man Who Went Back In Time For Us
This never happened tho. Well, most of it, anyway.
@@ADuckInASuitReal You underestimate the incomprehensible power of cameramen.
@@theonlybigsmoke you mean that overrated, unfunny, unoriginal and overused joke that you people still find it funny
"Follow me and ponder the question....What if?"
*Jeffery Wright voice*
I love what-ifs on this channel so do more, Infographics!
As you can see this universe is a unique one and history will be changed…
There is no way he would beg for mercy 😅
The Soviet Air Force chief of staff in WW2 was Armenian air marshal Sergei Khudyakov
He was in the Yalta Conference 1945 standing behind Stalin
If there's anything I've learned from Russia, it's that they're the type to hold a grudge. And a fierce one at that.
What if the USA never participated in WWI? That would have taken Churchill not loading arms on passenger ships.
Well its the US ofcourse are they getting involved
What if we didn't enter WW2 because of Pearl Harbor
@@sebastiaandejong4378 if Germany and Japan weren’t allies Pearl Harbor could have still happened but Germany didn’t have to declare war. So basically American forces would have only focused on Asia.
@@twin_towers_destroyer YEP which they mostly did
For a sec I thought I read “what would happen if Hitlar was captured by Aliens?”
Infographics love the mustache man 💀
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2:46 Tanks run over the countryside with a hay field and wagon... but the machinery to make large round hay bales was not invented until the early 1970s.
They were a weird pyramid circular shape
Moner was painting haystacks just like that in the 1800s
Well observed
Im 19 now but I’ve been enjoying your vids since I was 9 you made learning fun for me and even tho I use to hate school you made learning fun and you have thought me so so much thank you for that I love you guys never stop what you do is truly amazing and you deserve the best
there's no way he could have restarted the movement after being captured. towards the end of the war he abandoned his public speaking, because he had lost his main talent. his talent was his ability to read a crowd and know exactly what they wanted him to say and say it. but by the end of the war, the crowds didn't want him to say any more about invading, killing, exterminating. at a trial the only people who would go in person would be very hostile.
also those closest to him, and his generals, described how nearing the end of the war he basically went crazy. he was so narcissistic and in denial that they could possibly lose that if generals ever retreated he would fire them or even execute them, so most in that situation committed suicide. he was fighting on too many fronts and spread his troops way to thin especially on the eastern front. a general would say 'we have no tanks, we have lost most of the division and there are only a few hundred soldiers left riddled with disease vs fit Russians with heavy artillery' and he would just say 'but our soldiers are germans, if we lose then its your fault' and was basically throwing away all the resources he had left. if he somehow ascended to power again this would only continue and it would be a very swift downfall. he become shaky, with a limp, skinny, pale, and ill, he was not fit for public presentation or speaking and had frequent psychological breakdowns. for months before they even neared Berlin he was refusing to leave his bunker and made most generals come to him in his hole for meetings.
Exactly what I thought
I've hear that he was an amphetamine user as well, which would possibly explain the paranoia and mental decline as the war wore on.
@@shadowmancy9183 Hitler's personal physician was a quack who prescribed him various drugs. Undoubtedly this fuelled his increasingly deranged behaviour.
The final scenario shows why it is best to intervene early rather than when it’s too late. This could be applied to the current conflict in Ukraine, but the nuclear deterrent complicates things
Makes me wonder how different things today could have gone if Ukraine kept their nukes after the collapse of the soviet union.
Churchill had prepared a cell for him in the Tower of London.
He, could write another novel, MeinnKampf part 2. 😅.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
"Reprimanded by Stalin" That's a polite way to put it.
Stalin would have been like "oh well" and not reprimand him whats he gonna punish him for killing h!tler
I love that term .
@@terrorgaming459 Stalin would’ve had them banished to a secluded Siberian gulag, they cost him an invaluable propaganda moment !
@@terrorgaming459 Yes.
That’s a very good punishment and it not easy to escape from gulag in far deep Siberia He could also how if fees to become cold.@@dr3757
The guy that declined him on art school is to blame
I doubt WWII could have been stopped only delayed. If it happened much later nuclear weapons would have been available to both side.
I mean if arch duke franz Ferdinand wasn’t assasinated ww1 wouldn’t have happen and wouldn’t have ww2 too
@@daffy2261 if no one killed him something else would have set it off. Europe had bigger and bigger wars every 20 or so years until after WWII.
If WWII was prevented, then how would nuclear weapons get invented?
They still were working on nukes after 1922
your vids are all ways so entertaining
Good job with the possibles scenarios shown here. There is one aspect left behind and not considered... The capture OR death sentence of Adolf could have made him a reason to fight (if captured) or a martyr (if killed) in the view of his followers. It´s a long shot, but not impossible aspect.
3:38 he wouldn’t go down anywhere this nicely if he was in hands of an angry Soviet mob. I also do not think he would plead for mercy. None of his subordinates did.
What if he left Berlin and helped with operation werwolf? Could that change the course of the war?
i think not
Whats Operation Werwolf? Never heard of this.
Of course not. Thars ridiculous.
absolutely not, in any way
@@derdude6214 fleeing to the alps and fighting the allies as partisans
I really appreciate the work that goes into y’all’s videos. Thank you in advance! Keep up the great work!!
Here we go again, infographics answering questions I didn't know I was gonna ask
I have always wanted to see a video like this and I could never find a video about this what if even when searching it up or recommending the idea to channels like alternative history hub so thanks for finally making one of my what if thiughts a reality
same
It can not be made more clear just how good of a thing it was that hitlers Germany lost the war, and badly. I can't even imagine the world we'd be living in where Germany won.
These are so many scenarios on which so many interesting movies or series can be made lol
Here’s an interesting idea for a future video: What would happen if Kim Il-Sung and his family had been captured by the Allied forces during the Korean War? 🧐
@바보 Either that, or Kim Il-Sung and several high-ranking North Korean military officials would face criminal charges at the UN International Court of Justice in The Hague, The Netherlands with a long list of criminal charges regarding human rights abuses and war crimes during the Korean War with potentially hundreds and thousands of witness testimonies.
Easy outcome: would have led to the reunification under South Korean control.
@@kornbroetchen99 uh you do realise the communists in Korea would have just rallied under a new leader right
@@johanthompson1463 yet the USA killed a double-digit percentage of the North Korean population.
@@spanglish_official Yes, I am aware of that. I’m also aware that war crimes and many atrocities were committed by American troops in the Korean War. However, I think it’s also important to remember who invaded and attacked South Korea first without provocation and committed the same atrocities to South Koreans, Americans, and their OWN people in the North.
The torture that could've been brought to him if this happened is crazy.
If the allies were able to successfully prevent WW2, what would it have meant for the colonies under the British empire?
The dismantling of the British Empire would have been a lot slower than in our timeline. India would still have left the Empire at some point, but Britain would have held onto chunks of the Empire in other parts of the world.
I’ve never heard Himmler, Gobbles or Goehring been described as competent
Goehring was actually a very very clever man, his problem was his morphine addiction through the war. People said when he was on trial at Nuremburg his interlect was incredible as he wasn't on morphine anymore..
You don't get into the position they got into if you're not...
Goebbels was competent and a very effective propagandist. The other were idiots. Especially Himmler.
“Stalin would have looked at him in contempt”
Both men were monsters committing genocides. They would probably have looked at each other with admiration.
Bro got kidnapped by the aliens
“You’re going down, big man”💀
I liked the third one. The Allies just going “Nah, we’re not doing this today, F off” is hilarious to me for some reason.
Torturous effects of withdrawal itself would be all they need for effective nterrogation
The "ironic" thing is that without the war, I would not have been born (my grandparents met in a refugee camp after the war)
You resulted beacuse some Austrian painter was not accepted to art college wow
The "ironic" thing is that without the war, millions of lives wouldnt be lost to eather mass genocide or on the front..... Don't say things like these
@@hexa1266he would have been drafted into the military actually enough of this silly hypothesis
The scenario of him having a platform to speak would be real accurate tbh I mean look at the world today he is dead and his empire fell yet there are still those in modern times who believe in his ideals and philosophies their numbers growing and radical groups springing up in just about every part of the world
Not true. There are leftists who incessantly compare everyone who disagrees with their oppressive and suffocating ideologies to “Nazis” so you THINK there are still those in modern times who “believe in his ideals”. If you want to know who’s in control - think about who you’re NOT allowed to criticize. Really. Think about it.
What.
No matter what group empire or cult even if the leader dies there ideas will always keep going just cause the head died sometimes it doesn’t mean there done. Groups that large won’t simply stop believing they will continue in the shadow. People who influence that hard won’t ever go away with out leaving a big stain on earth. I’m sure there’s plenty of secret society’s who play a big part behind the government that’s just how some places are.
I'm pretty sure there aren't as many modern nazis as the media would like you to believe.
I like how this guy portraits the soviets as innocent people as if Stalin didn't killed millions.
do you have problems understanding english?
What. He didn’t portray the soviets as anything. He pointed out how they would react
Stallin was bad and people hated him in Russia for everything he had done but when an army like the German behaves so bad that the red army was looked as liberators of many countries including its own citizens , is even difficult to understand how the world react.@@Music_Iz_life
This video is great! Thanks
This is all very interesting. But in the intro to the scenario of the beginning of the war, the statement is incorrect. Adolf had no plans of mass genocide at that point. The first plan was to gather the jews and undesirables and then exile them to Madagascar. This didn't work out and he had his top ranks like Himmler and Goering come up with "the final solution". That's why it's called that, it wasn't solution number 1. In reality, they came up with the gruesome plan. But he's still a monster because he had to approve everything they did.
Remember: History is written by the Winners
Yeah they were actually chill 😁😁😁
Love that i misread allies as aliens.
History sure got intresting for a moment.
this video was incredibly well done
I love the WW2 videos ❤
Same
The 3rd scenario is extremely unlikely.
Britain and France were in no position to fight a war even at the beginning of the conflict (hence why Germany curb stomped them for the first few years), and America was so isolationist, it took being attacked by Japan and Germany declaring war on them to get them involved.
I always wonder how all these horrible dictators get into power, sadly once there a lot of innocent people get killed or hurt.
Their ambition and the breakdown of the established order it's important to note their ambition isn't enough
So basically if the Allies fought sooner...scary precedent
This is the future of on screen entertainment! Bravo
Regardless of what he did why do people portray him as a coward? He received several medals for bravery, volunteered to go back to the trenches when he had a ticket home, volunteered the most dangerous jobs. Can't label the guy a coward
His actions in the great war don't mean that he couldnt have become a coward later.
@@deadend5479 yet he wasn't. He shot himself instead of fleeing. The man was many things, not a coward
@@alexcc8664 he choose to die and take the easy way out rather than surrender and face justice. He belived till his last breath that he wasnt at fault for the german defeat but that the german population was at fault.
@@alexcc8664 That can’t be proven he killed himself yes there was a body but it was never identified to actually be him. There’s lot of evidence to suggest he escaped Berlin and went to South America but once again that can’t be proven. There’s lot of interesting docs on subject.
@@deadend5479such as Pétain of France hero of Verdun in 1916 defeatist pragmatist in 1940 dies in prison 1951
I know I'm at fault here but was always so astonished by how much cowardice constituted the man who exacted so much hate and violence.
exactly, he told his generals to fight to the very last man and never retreat, but he committed suicide before the allies reached him because he didn't want to face what he literally told his own soldiers to do.
That could also be the story made up so Germany saw him as a cowered. Maybe the Sovjet shot him on site.
Ww1 vet far from coward. Its likely he escaped and the al-lies made up the suicide story