RTX 3060 Ti Zotac - Design MISTAKE or this is the Future?
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I was impressed that you have not only fixed the immediate issue, but also the card's basic incompetent design.
I don't think you can call them incompetent. I see much worse design where no protection is in place and traces melt down causing a disaster forcing you to grind the pcb side to side.
Cards need fuses!
Zotac: wtf is a fuse ?
Tony!
@@FR4M3Sharma what
@@northwestrepair I was just surprised to see you here. 😂
BUT COST CUTTING MEASURES!! :( -.-
I got this video randomly recommended and watching this was very satisfying. You earned a sub!
this is how a repair should be done !
So I have to add Zotac (tbh they dont have the best QA) to the same be-aware/dont buy list as Gigabyte (cracked PCB's due to inferior PCB substrate design)... nice work as always Khris.
Well done Kris! Thank you for sharing your experience! Have never worked on these cards before.
So not only you found the fault and fixed it bit also upgraded the PCBs with TWO fuses for better chance to sustain another fault in the future? And also checked all the phases with the scope? Comparing to those professionals setting their "hot air station at maximum" to remove components from boards, I am impressed!
Can you please share what the flux, solder mark and UV lamp are please? Thanks for the nice video!
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@@KrisFixGermany Брех, че и българин се оказа... падна ми ченето. Браво. Аз съм начинаещ, но ми е интересно. Имам една Palit RTX 3060 TI от копачка и се опитвам да разбера защо не работи. Пуска сигнал и преди да зареди win10 - губи сигнал и почва да върти на 100% охлаждането. MATHS показва грешки на 4 vram-a, ама малко - 64 грешки на всеки от 4-те чипа. Не откривам да има short никъде. На термал камера показва GPU-to i VRAM-a, че са горещи, а след като загуби сигнал - само GPU-to остава горещо. Ама не се предавам, благодарение на нея, научавам страшно много инфо. Ако имаш някакви насоки бих бил благодарен.
Кой е канала на Дима?
@@imperia777 mafiya67
@@Matthew14671 MadEDoctor е друг много способен българин
Die Karte ist ja jetzt besser als neu. Ich gucke deine Videos sehr gerne, mach weiter so 👍
The narrow trace burning to ash to save the cracked smd cap turning into mini crater 😁
Extremely awesome video. Have the same card with the same problems. Found the cracked cap. Wondered what the other problem was?! The integrated fuses!! 😂😂😂
I don't know what's happening but it's satisfying to watch
A true professional unlike others poking at everything and saying unfortunately blah blah blah
you are the best deserve 100million subs and more keep it going
Excellent work and video!
as far as i know the Zotac card is using the reference PCB for the 3060Ti (maybe some minor customisation such as component selection but the layout should be the same) which is also used by pretty much all the cheap 3060Ti cards from vendors like Palit, Inno3D, Gainward and so on. those might all have the same problem.
It is, but I don't want to blame other brands without evidence
@@KrisFixGermany Asus 2080 turbo exact same problem just in a different place.
I guess it's a good way to save money
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@@northwestrepair Don't say it. I just bought a used Asus 2080 ti turbo.
And now I am scared
wow... i have like 50 cards of this model.. 3060ti lhr most working fine... 10 wroken i look into one and have this same problem...i have one on my hand and blow same trace and same cap broken. i think is common problem .. since most of the cards fail the same time and most where conected on the same power supply..
Your skills are very impressive. You would be a valuable asset to any of these companies in R&D.
Top job, thanks for sharing this knowledge!
Wow if .I had a Zotac I’d be worried..
Very nice fix! And is it just me? But it seem like Zotac is much more prone to failure overall than other GPUs? Literally when I am browsing our local Auction site and find broken GPUs they will be Zotac with no picture and running fans
Here in my region it's mostly kfa2 and palit on 2nd.. but 3rd place probably zotac or pny.
@@breakingyourlegs I never had a Zotac myself though. I been using MSI and Gigabyte a lot for the last decade. But I do browse auctions for bargains and then I see a lot of broken Zotac gpus with commonly the same issues
Wow, watching vid while fixing the same card. Surprised to find same exact internal fuse on the trace. You got lucky, yours was a bad cap. Mine was a blown mosfet from PEX_12V to FBVDDQ. R.I.P.
3060-70 have a big problem with vmem
Long time no see , missing you buddy
What could cause the break of integrated fuse? Is it possible to avoid it? It looks like artificial obsolescence of a product.
It most likely is just that.
Meh I own one grabbed before the GPU mess became real in january 2020. Mine is still holding but it's used 6 months per year so hopefully I'll retire it before this happens.. I hardly ever buy zotac, this time I had to because it was basically the only GPU at a decent price I could grab before crap hit the fan. Now a new one costs like 100 eur less than what I paid it for at the time.. It's also relatively noisy and runs mildly hot. Nice to watch anyway :)
Thanks for this video, 👍😁
I'm buying this model, so I'm going to have this problem? :(
I live in Brazil and I can't afford to buy a more expensive one, I'm already leaving a 2070 that failed, I don't want another one again
Hopefully not
hello where can you find the wiring diagrams and the boardview of the video cards in general? because they are not easily found .. I have a 3060 ti manli you but I can't find it thank you very much for your kind reply good job
I had a bad experience with an 8600GT from Zotac more than a 1.5 decade ago (maybe i have it still there); it burned unfortunately, the one and only ever burned, and the whole pc was just nearly a week old (new parts)... when i started the computer, there was smoke and it smelled burned. Everything else survived till i upgraded the pc, so it was definetly a bad zotac design; maybe it was a stock nvidia design, who knows...
ZOTAC: zero operating trace as constructed
It all makes sense if you read it that way
Wow it looks almost like it came from the factory this way.
Hiding the fuses in the circuit board, it's not like they are going to repair it at Zotac if RMA'd, then why?
Whole point of fuses is to have a weaker failure point that is easily replaceable...
Feels like the ASUS design where 1-2 components have no cooling and will eventually fail, consumer won't know anything about it though.
you are an electronics wizard sir :)
Awesome job.
Did not replace the capacitor, is not awesome.
I just wanted to say thank you you are doing a very good job very cool and while we're at it you also do xbox controllers
What grinder are you using? A lot of people seem to use the D1 grinder nowadays, but it's to weak for me.
It will be soon in our shop
in malaysia Zotac come with 5year warranty.. (if you reg online) i guess they stanby this kinda fix ready..
Amazing work and video +1 subscriber.
* I have a 3060 Eagle 12Gb with Samsung VRAM
I have all Rails but I have no voltage on the 2 coils for memory ( Resistance is 33ohm ) Any suggestions ? Thank you
GODLIKE skills sir!
Hmm, da Zotac zu PCPartner gehört, sind Dir da auch gleiche Probleme von Inno3D und Manli bekannt?
Das stimmt, aber ich möchte nicht ohne Beweise andere Marken beschuldigen
Hi bro nice video I lile the editing. Do you know how it's possible to test hynix GDDR6 memory using MODS test 94 or 178? On my computer it gives an error but it works fine if it's testing samsung or micron gddr6.
You need different mods version
@@KrisFixGermany Thank you bro, I installed 455.219 and it's working now!
Palit 3060 ti I shorted pins 2 and 3 of the cable fan socket. 12-5 v is ok, 1.8v pex , mem, vdd voltages are not. Is the gpu damaged? :( 1.8 rail 0 ohm ) help please
Im always curious, what if pex rst is not same or no pexrsrt, and no reference clock or not equal.what should be the problem,? And the fix
Now im concerned I have a 3080ti from zotac do you have experience with this type of card ha s the sam design with the missing fuses to prevent such blown parts? Excuse I typed my dream in reality only 3080ti.
It's too early to tell, these cards are too new. The problems start to become noticeable after a few months
what does a little capacitator short like that?
is this a random luck or a decay time or pushing cards oc with out knowing/knowing
Nvidia and AMD don't like you for sure, watch your back my friend, lovely videos with amazing knowledge.
Are only capacitors safe to rip out of the board like that, is it actually safer to just rip it off?
I don't urge anyone to do as I do. It's definitely better than using hot air and heating the whole PCB for one capacitor
@@KrisFixGermany Why don't you use your hot tweezers ?
@@dorfschmidt4833 cuz it takes more time
what does a capacitator short like that? temperature?
have the zotac 3070 amp the same problem? how many cost this repair?
please does the zotac rtx 3060 12gb twin edge have the same problem? thanks
Hi kris, do you have any info about this square type ic with 8pins under, called "up1909r" please help me about the pinouts or schematic or it, or whats the purpose of it,😔😊
Use google but uP semiconductor are used in video cards often for pwm controllers or doublers
@@KrisFixGermany thanks kris, by the way i have another question, does corrupted bios makes memory channel reads error too in mats mods ? For example A0 vram will read errors ?😁
Seems copper fuse is cheaper for Zotac.... bruh.
With how much money they charge us for these cards these days, you'd think they would make it better quality. Forget squeezing out that extra 2 to 5% of performance. I just want my stuff to last. My 1070 from EVGA still works but my 3090 went poof.
it is same board with 3060 version? how do we prevent that??
Good ole zotac, I bet if you were to test brand new units 75% would fail lol.
Nice to see somebody do a proper job. There are way too many rednecks out there hacking there way through other people's stuff.
"Just like that" uses a chisel on a Zotac card
Sir, does the Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity has the same issue ? I know it's still under warranty but still wish to keep it longer with me.
Zotac provide 5 years warranty, you should be fine as long as u don't OC it crazy
Next video: Kris remove core with a pry bar 😳
Maybe 🤔
Как карта? Хорошее охлаждение?
Genius 👍🙏
repair a 3060ti is it worth it?
Zotac:
Misssion failed succesfully
Thank you Kris for the videos. Since you do 20/day your expertise is invaluable. Remind me to not buy Zotec.
I've repaired 3 that 've the same problem. The tracks 're very small
Voce é português ou brasileiro? Pelo seu nick parece, pois queria perguntar algo.
@@piQmi Argentino, pregunte...
@@compradorcompulsivo382 Recientemente compré un Zotac 3070 AMP Holo y creo que el PCB es similar pero usa mejores componentes. (Creo) Me preguntaba si sabes algo sobre esto.
Hay una web donde se puede ver el PCB, como te lo mando para que lo veas?
@@piQmiLa placa funciona? O porque quieres que vea el PCB?
@@compradorcompulsivo382 Funciona, todo está bien. Solo quería saber si el PCB era el mismo en el video, miré alrededor y se ve un poco más grande en el RTX 3070
If i had to guess, this is planned obsolescence. Let´s just hope other manufacturers won´t inspire from this.
A Zotac card was poorly designed? Shocking -_-
excuseme. how many uf capacity for that caps ?
4.7 or 10uF . In this repair 10 uF
@@KrisFixGermany thanks
Zotac, not even once.
Jesus, im so glad i avoid this brand, same for MSi.
Ох уж этот zotac))))
ты сталкивался с этой проблемой?
@@KrisFixGermany да, пару видео назад выкладывал такой случай) сам был в шоке от такого решения zotac
@Mafia67 Я пропустил просмотр
@@KrisFixGermany это не делает менее интересным твоё видео)))
Even before getting to mosfet you've shown enough to say this card is junk in terms of manufacturing quality.
me: Buy zotac rtx 3060ti yesterday(Havent even arive yet)
YT: Hey check out this video about zotac rtx 3060ti model.
😶😶
Super 😂❤
Do you think undervolting the GPU would (hopefully) prevent this kind of thing? I have the same model, but it's a 3070.
nope, short circuits don't care about undervolting or not, they pull as much power as they can till something is destroyed, being the cap or the trace on the board. Fuses are for saving the board, if properly sized they will save the board but pretty much nothing else
One of, if not the best.
This would be why you do NOT buy a zotac card.
I have the non TI version , seems to use the same PCB . I have no voltage on PEX mem or VCORE .. There was a short on 12V to VCORE , which I removed ( DRMOS) and a blown Inductor filter (12V in ) .. Though still not getting voltage th-cam.com/video/Rl353_YETQ4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3UIW3YcaAEy4TzJz
Zotac for the cheap
zotac.....??
Nice boy. You are learning pretty well how to do click baits
One opiniom, dont buy 4060.
Wow what in intelligent gay man.
wow. its idiot idea from zotac .
It's a zotac. They are the cheapest cards. Not made well.