@@Soxruleyanksdrool you must not be a Jersey Italian. Always "gravy" in the old neighborhood. We're talking those of us whose family stepped off the boat sometime early 1900's. Only the medigans said "sauce."
I’m in Montreal and until now I had no idea this wasn’t a common everyday food in both US and Canada until right now. To be clear both are delicious. Both real pizza and tomato pizza are really kinda eaten in different situations though. Like you would order regular pizza for 1 meal and then it’s done. Tomato pizza is usually something you would buy to have for multiple meals (like it sits out on the counter for a few days and anyone who wants a piece for lunch or breakfast can just cut a bit for themselves). Or at least that’s how it is in my house.
I've had this and it's like minmaxing a pizza. Picture good bread with really good sauce and a dusting of parm. Cutting out the cheese and letting the sauce roast on top... it just adds a freshness to it.
soccerman hi I never put gravy on biscuits and I’m from Georgia. We put it on our rice mashed potatoes smothered meat but not biscuits. I don’t mess with sausage gravy
In Montreal, Quebec, this is considered cold pizza. The traditional way where I grew up is no cheese on top. Love this stuff. I will be making some for the holiday this year for the buffet table.
I grew up in Montreal, Canada in an Italian neighborhood in the 1970s. The local Italian bakeries had this and had what they called white pizza which is just brushed with oil, garlic, and a mixture of herbs. We just call it tomato pizza (tomato pie????). Although ours has the same tomato topping it has way less of it. Oh and no Italian I know would get caught calling sauce ......gravy.....ever! This is still very popular today and is a great childhood memory. As an adult I now make my own....its great having Italian mothers show you how to make great Italian food. Although it is now sold in grocery stores (please don't buy it there it's commercially made and sucks) Find the bakeries and buy it there...whatever city you are from a bakery NOT, I REPEAT NOT ...grocery stores or convenience stores.... that's just commercially made CRAP. Oh and we make it with pizza dough...not bread dough.
In Canada, we got the same thing only it’s called “ROMA” and they sell it at certain grocery stores. The location, that it’s made from is in Stoney Creek, 40 minutes outside of Toronto. Really good when it’s toasted or even in room temperature! 🍕👍
Not sure why this is presented as something unique. You can find this everywhere in Montreal, including most convenience stores. I have also seen it in a few places in Boston. In Rome pizza stores have something like this (but the dough isn't as dense), but you can find something very similar to this inSicily and even Greece. So I'm sure there is plenty of this kind of pizza or sfincione or focaccia (whatever) all over every major North American city.
@@polymatheace There arent actually, what are you yapping about? you can't even find this in new Jersey or nyc let alone every city in america. What stupidity and ignorance.
@@gibsonflyingv2820 Montreal is in Canada. It is literally in EVERY gas station convenience store, grocery store etc. there. I have also seen it in Toronto and Boston. And of course Roman pizza al taglio has a very popular version with just tomato sauce that is a similar concept but with much better dough.
@@polymatheace You’re wrong, I’ve had Roman pizza in rome and it’s nothing like this. You’ve never even had it; and it certainly isn’t in Boston. This is bread, period. Served at room temp tomato pie tastes nothing like pizza. “In Montreal” okay yeah a city that’s cuisine is a copy of NYC. Anything you saw in there is either a knockoff or something else.
@@gibsonflyingv2820 Yes it tastes nothing like a standard American pizza. Pizza al taglio doesn't exactly taste like this but this is where it originates from, since fundamentally it's a pan pizza with just tomato sauce (same exact concept). "Anything you saw in there is either a knockoff or something else." That's such a ridiculous statement. Immigrant communities from the same places make the same kind of food. You actually don't know what you're talking about.
Man can’t beat a family gathering. The Uncles playing cards and drinking blinding homemade lemoncello and me a kid eating half the box of tomato pie half cold and so happy.
If you're in the Hamilton, Ontario area you must try Roma Bakery pizza. It's our tomato pie. It's been around for about 50 years now...the best tomato pie you'll ever try, I promise!
ok so this reminds me of 2 things. This makes me think of Pizza SUBs when I was a kid, and then Bread toasted and dipped in sauce. Now people can understand bread and sauce right. (and looking below I think people can see the same thing) Anything that is pizza or flat bread and have toppings is a pizza. For me this is not a Pie... but it helps confuse it with cheese or not. I don't like a lot of cheese,(don't like parmesan, well the standard one) and prefer to flavour the bread part now more than the toppings. Gravy is more complex, and sauces have different type just like pizza, many a curry/sauces are called gravy. Depend where you live.
Im from the Philly area and I haven’t had this in years. I’ve been in CA for over 19 years now. I miss east coast food like this. It’s not anything like pizza to me. It’s tomato pie and it’s cold and delicious.
It’s so funny seeing people comment. You have no idea how legendary Sarcones is. They have been around since the beginning and I challenge any bakery in the country to come close to this level of perfection. The tomato pie is absolutely incredible. If you haven’t tried it stop talking and sit down.
No there is a dish in sicily that is basically this but with more interesting use of the ingredients, it's a thick pizza but the dough is different and it put emphasis in the consistency of the tomato sauce and things like onion and tomato chunks, it's heaven.
@@STALKER777LK and you replied back to a comment you posted 4 years ago. You are just upset because your attempt to sound like you are cultured failed. I’ll help you since you really have no idea what you are taking about. It’s called Sfincione and it’s from my village in Palermo. Eat the dirtiest part of my ass and get back to your miserable life. 🤡 cheers
When asked what's better, a pizza or a tomato pie, the owner says "I think this is better, you get the flavour of the tomato, and the real bread dough". To each their own. Cheese is usually the most expensive ingredient for pizza-makers/companies/chains. They tend to skimp. Are 'tomato pies' cheaper than normal pizza?
I think the cheese is more important than the tomato sauce on a pizza since white pizza is a thing. I’ve also tried this pizza that replaced the tomato sauce with a mushroom paste(?)
Its not a traditional pizza. And sure as hell isnt an Italian pizza. But it has the marinara sauce, the dough, and cheese therefore it's considered a type of pizza.
This does reminds me of tomato soup with real crispy fresh toasted bread. So this is like ediable tomatosoup. It all depends on the quality of the tomato's and bread.
I have been eating tomato pie for my entire life, and I can tell you -- definitively -- that it is not pizza. It is a completely different and absolutely wonderful product that is -- as they said in the video -- all about the sauce and the dough. And for those who are wondering, the sauce is nothing like the sauce on most pizzas -- it's a very fresh, crushed tomatoes kind of sauce that is much more complex than most pizza sauces, and much more delicious, in my opinion! Also, tomato pie is often eaten after it has cooled down -- "cold", if you will. Now that I think about it, I don't think that I've ever eaten a warm slice of tomato pie in my life, but again, now that I think about it, I think that I'd like to try that sometime! I wish I had some tomato pie right now!
Explains a lot. I ordered a cheese pizza from dominoes once and it came without any cheese. Just sauce on a crust. Instead of bitching to the store about it, i was hungry enough to just accept it. Ended up ordering it regularly.
It's basically just dipping bread in leftover tomato gravy. Ever did that with pasta? Dipped the garlic bread in the gravy? Basically the same thing.
except this way it probably costs 37 dollars
@@maxwilson3530 no they a cheap. it is not sold in pizza shops. it is sold in bakeries usually at room temp.
Not gravy. Sauce. Gravy is not made with tomatoes
@@Soxruleyanksdrool you must not be a Jersey Italian. Always "gravy" in the old neighborhood. We're talking those of us whose family stepped off the boat sometime early 1900's. Only the medigans said "sauce."
@@ATMfromNJ my man thinks he’s a sopranos character
So it's like pizza but without toppings
Lol
Yes, that's right....it's pizza!
You're like pizza but without toppings.
@@notnickcage is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Just going to comment that
“For us Italians, it’s always gravy not sauce.” Ok but... What kind of Italian are you...?
Freyapaw 😂
Freyapaw only italian Americans aka GINZOS say gravy.
Real Italians in Italy refer to tomato sauce as sauce and not gravy. Italian Americans are idiots.
cream Lies. Sounds like someone without a passport. Have you ever had pizza in Italy? The mozzarella and dough are much better,
my entire family is from Italy except me and my siblings and my parents call it tomato sauce
...What has happened to the editing style?
"How do you my fellow kids?"
Ile they acting like they make funny compilations or something
/r/FellowKids/
ITS A BONELESS PIZZA
I’m in Montreal and until now I had no idea this wasn’t a common everyday food in both US and Canada until right now.
To be clear both are delicious. Both real pizza and tomato pizza are really kinda eaten in different situations though. Like you would order regular pizza for 1 meal and then it’s done. Tomato pizza is usually something you would buy to have for multiple meals (like it sits out on the counter for a few days and anyone who wants a piece for lunch or breakfast can just cut a bit for themselves). Or at least that’s how it is in my house.
I've had this and it's like minmaxing a pizza. Picture good bread with really good sauce and a dusting of parm. Cutting out the cheese and letting the sauce roast on top... it just adds a freshness to it.
Well, you can just take a bread and smear tomato sauce all over it. Bake it and sprinkle some parmesan. Isn't it the same?
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I am sorry but why say gravy. IT IS TOMATO SAUCE. Gravy goes on biscuits.
*southerness intensifies*
They refer to it as gravy as a slang for tomato sauce
Italian-Americans say gravy instead of sauce.Italians in Italy say sauce
soccerman hi I never put gravy on biscuits and I’m from Georgia. We put it on our rice mashed potatoes smothered meat but not biscuits. I don’t mess with sausage gravy
No. That's leftover dough and dipping sauce
I'm sorry it's called "Sauce" not "Gravy" i'm a southern Italian we say SAUCE
I call it montycontortion
you're italian american. If you were Italian you might say...Sugo.
@@lexremillard2549 nop in Italian we say salsa, Sugo is not for pizza, sugo is for pasta
And up here in the NORTH, it's called sauce. Just is.
Are you from the east coast?
In Montreal, Quebec, this is considered cold pizza. The traditional way where I grew up is no cheese on top. Love this stuff. I will be making some for the holiday this year for the buffet table.
What rational mind would choose this over regular pizza
Me
I'm allergic to dairy lol
santanaoutlaw Well it is considered pizza
@@jakiaha788 then u can't eat this either
I'm from Philly I understand where u are coming from but its amazing
It's a "Piezza"
I grew up in Montreal, Canada in an Italian neighborhood in the 1970s. The local Italian bakeries had this and had what they called white pizza which is just brushed with oil, garlic, and a mixture of herbs. We just call it tomato pizza (tomato pie????). Although ours has the same tomato topping it has way less of it. Oh and no Italian I know would get caught calling sauce ......gravy.....ever! This is still very popular today and is a great childhood memory. As an adult I now make my own....its great having Italian mothers show you how to make great Italian food. Although it is now sold in grocery stores (please don't buy it there it's commercially made and sucks) Find the bakeries and buy it there...whatever city you are from a bakery NOT, I REPEAT NOT ...grocery stores or convenience stores.... that's just commercially made CRAP. Oh and we make it with pizza dough...not bread dough.
In Canada, we got the same thing only it’s called “ROMA” and they sell it at certain grocery stores. The location, that it’s made from is in Stoney Creek, 40 minutes outside of Toronto.
Really good when it’s toasted or even in room temperature! 🍕👍
Not sure why this is presented as something unique. You can find this everywhere in Montreal, including most convenience stores. I have also seen it in a few places in Boston. In Rome pizza stores have something like this (but the dough isn't as dense), but you can find something very similar to this inSicily and even Greece. So I'm sure there is plenty of this kind of pizza or sfincione or focaccia (whatever) all over every major North American city.
@@polymatheace There arent actually, what are you yapping about? you can't even find this in new Jersey or nyc let alone every city in america. What stupidity and ignorance.
@@gibsonflyingv2820 Montreal is in Canada. It is literally in EVERY gas station convenience store, grocery store etc. there. I have also seen it in Toronto and Boston. And of course Roman pizza al taglio has a very popular version with just tomato sauce that is a similar concept but with much better dough.
@@polymatheace You’re wrong, I’ve had Roman pizza in rome and it’s nothing like this. You’ve never even had it; and it certainly isn’t in Boston. This is bread, period. Served at room temp tomato pie tastes nothing like pizza. “In Montreal” okay yeah a city that’s cuisine is a copy of NYC. Anything you saw in there is either a knockoff or something else.
@@gibsonflyingv2820 Yes it tastes nothing like a standard American pizza. Pizza al taglio doesn't exactly taste like this but this is where it originates from, since fundamentally it's a pan pizza with just tomato sauce (same exact concept).
"Anything you saw in there is either a knockoff or something else." That's such a ridiculous statement. Immigrant communities from the same places make the same kind of food. You actually don't know what you're talking about.
i promise it's actually amazing lmao
It’s the best pizza I’ve ever had in my life. best eaten cold. we get ours from Roma’s in Rome, NY
Man can’t beat a family gathering. The Uncles playing cards and drinking blinding homemade lemoncello and me a kid eating half the box of tomato pie half cold and so happy.
If you're in the Hamilton, Ontario area you must try Roma Bakery pizza. It's our tomato pie. It's been around for about 50 years now...the best tomato pie you'll ever try, I promise!
Heh, we have these in south jersey too, and they are amazing. But honestly, you gotta try the ones from philly to really get the real stuff.
ok so this reminds me of 2 things. This makes me think of Pizza SUBs when I was a kid, and then Bread toasted and dipped in sauce. Now people can understand bread and sauce right. (and looking below I think people can see the same thing) Anything that is pizza or flat bread and have toppings is a pizza. For me this is not a Pie... but it helps confuse it with cheese or not. I don't like a lot of cheese,(don't like parmesan, well the standard one) and prefer to flavour the bread part now more than the toppings. Gravy is more complex, and sauces have different type just like pizza, many a curry/sauces are called gravy. Depend where you live.
you need to go to la rosa's in south Philly. thats where its at tho
Louis 111 is handsome 0:55
This is also the best bakery in the city and the Holy Grail for Italian bread
Lol! When my sister was 2 years old, she used to pretend to be a chef and say "i'm making tomato pie" she made it up😂
Now i know who played Voldemort 😂😂😂😂just kiddin Herrine Ro
I don’t care what you call it. I grew up on that stuff and I call it Fabulous.
Go to Pica's in Upper Darby,Pa. About 5 miles from center city Phila. Best Tomato Pie around and that includes Trenton NJ
Im from the Philly area and I haven’t had this in years. I’ve been in CA for over 19 years now. I miss east coast food like this. It’s not anything like pizza to me. It’s tomato pie and it’s cold and delicious.
The editing is epic
The has to be one kick ass tomato gravy sauce
It’s so funny seeing people comment. You have no idea how legendary Sarcones is. They have been around since the beginning and I challenge any bakery in the country to come close to this level of perfection. The tomato pie is absolutely incredible. If you haven’t tried it stop talking and sit down.
*"That's it?"*
When I was a teen they had pizza starters at a bakery that looked like that they were delicious!!!
Why don't American Italians actually learn about Italian culture... That is sauce we don't say gravy....
Wheres the cheese
This is just party pizza from Rhode island. You can get it in strips here at any Italian bakery or sometimes gas stations
I see food insider has had its lit up moment
There’s a bakery in Easton Pa that makes this omg it is out of this world good!
Nope, just no.
Yes just yes lol
Oh godddddddd this video is just a big try not ti cringe challenge
No there is a dish in sicily that is basically this but with more interesting use of the ingredients, it's a thick pizza but the dough is different and it put emphasis in the consistency of the tomato sauce and things like onion and tomato chunks, it's heaven.
Incorrect
@@franksindoneii5410 You've replied to a comment from 4 years ago
And all you did was to show either ignorance or terrible interpretation skills.
@@STALKER777LK and you replied back to a comment you posted 4 years ago. You are just upset because your attempt to sound like you are cultured failed. I’ll help you since you really have no idea what you are taking about. It’s called Sfincione and it’s from my village in Palermo. Eat the dirtiest part of my ass and get back to your miserable life. 🤡 cheers
So basically it's 70's Chef Boyardee Pizza in a box!😁
This. Tomato pie is FABULOUS!!!
Can u start this food journalism in asia,can't wait!
Vegans call vegan cheese, cheese so why not?
(Yes i just went there)
The best part of pizza is the sauce, I’ll usually order extra sauce if possible, so I would try this ^^
Huh, they don't have this in NYC? That cant be... I didn't realize this was just something special to this area
My grandparents from Italy liked to eat pizza like this
Unless you're in New Haven, then it's "AH BEETS!"
The original pizza was actually bread with crushed tomatoes on top of it. This is close to the original than anything today.
I love tomato pie it's healthy and delicious🍅
3wad Al Faqeeh can we get a sub from you?
Well, I would't totally replace pizza, and I'm not sure if that pie could be considered a pizza but I definetely want one of those
“For us Italians, it’s always gravy not sauce” - Says American who wasn’t born in Italy and neither was his dad.
When asked what's better, a pizza or a tomato pie, the owner says "I think this is better, you get the flavour of the tomato, and the real bread dough". To each their own. Cheese is usually the most expensive ingredient for pizza-makers/companies/chains. They tend to skimp. Are 'tomato pies' cheaper than normal pizza?
i tried it it's not very good.
I think the cheese is more important than the tomato sauce on a pizza since white pizza is a thing. I’ve also tried this pizza that replaced the tomato sauce with a mushroom paste(?)
A simple dish that is well done can go miles.
Sarcones is right next to the best restaurant ever
Next thing they will say a hotdog with tomato sauce and pepperoni is a pizza.
Up in New Haven CT they have a pizza with no cheese. Haven’t been able to try it yet but it looks a lot better than this.
Tomato pie is history. Personally I prefer the Apizza versions in New Haven CT but this is legit. It's a different thing than pizza as you know it
It's always all about the gravy for me. If the gravy is delicious it sets the whole thing off. That gravy looks delicious!
Its not gravy unless it was made from some sort of meat. its a sauce.
Its not a traditional pizza. And sure as hell isnt an Italian pizza. But it has the marinara sauce, the dough, and cheese therefore it's considered a type of pizza.
you counted it as pizza in your 41 slices of pizza video
This does reminds me of tomato soup with real crispy fresh toasted bread.
So this is like ediable tomatosoup.
It all depends on the quality of the tomato's and bread.
I love it, but it's not Pizza. It's something really special.
As long as you know what your consuming and it's delicious and is edible then
it's food
Come to Youngstown Ohio and try are Brier Hill style pizza .
Toast with tomato sauce?
I:I love this
N:No.1
S:Salty
I: I like it
D: Delicious
S:Spicy
E:Extra Yummy
R:Real Thumb nail
It should be sold as LAZY for ¢0.99
The best way to eat it is to leave it in the fridge and eat it the next day cold
I have been eating tomato pie for my entire life, and I can tell you -- definitively -- that it is not pizza. It is a completely different and absolutely wonderful product that is -- as they said in the video -- all about the sauce and the dough. And for those who are wondering, the sauce is nothing like the sauce on most pizzas -- it's a very fresh, crushed tomatoes kind of sauce that is much more complex than most pizza sauces, and much more delicious, in my opinion! Also, tomato pie is often eaten after it has cooled down -- "cold", if you will. Now that I think about it, I don't think that I've ever eaten a warm slice of tomato pie in my life, but again, now that I think about it, I think that I'd like to try that sometime! I wish I had some tomato pie right now!
Pennsylvania, my home town, what are you doin? 😂
Title: Is this tomato *pie* a pizza?
Me: well u said it was a pie so
Am I the only person who likes the tomato sauce more than the cheese when eating pizza?
If it was supposed to be pizza, they would call it pizza. Its not pizza, its tomata pie.
I'll try it, but I doubt I'll become a fan. I don't want to drive into Philly anyway.
Does a bear shit in the ocean? I think not.
Dude barely threw any cheese on it I bet one slice is like 8.99 or something but if it’s like 2.99 I would get it all the time if it’s really good
It's cheap and really good, it sounds weird but it's just something you have to try first lol
Lyssa Nicole thanks for letting me know if I get the chance I’ll check it out
@@melmelcorvette you gotta come to Utica, NY for good tomato pie! Not sure how good it is in Philly
Lyssa Nicole we will burn utica to the ground
@@weeniehutjrs9506 go for it I never said I liked Utica
Can I get a slice of Louis with my tomato pie to go please?
Explains a lot. I ordered a cheese pizza from dominoes once and it came without any cheese. Just sauce on a crust. Instead of bitching to the store about it, i was hungry enough to just accept it. Ended up ordering it regularly.
*Steven Universe is shaking*
Trying to call bread with tomato “sauce” is never going to be pizza
If it is dough, tomato sauce, and cheese, then it is 🍕
So it’s the same as the Chef Boyardee box pizza at the supermarket.
Its basically a rectangular pizza without cheese and toppings.
Id rather eat pizza that just bread and tomato
Louis is a snack too
This isn't pizza, my hometown has been making it since 1914 and it's called tomato pie because it is nothing like pizza!
Yes it does!
Recipe please
HERRINE, I👏NEED 👏YOUR 👏JOB👏 😭
Looks like toast with tomato sauce
After the cheese I could consider is a tomato pizza, before that it isn't. But hey, itd more of a pizza than other "pizzas" I've seen
Yes it does stand like that?
Please visit Jeddah and eat AL BAIK.!😍😘😘😍It's the best thing in the world! Just please do this