Royal Purple filter Cut Open! vs FRAM vs WIX vs BOSCH
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- Here's a cutup of Royal Purple's 10-2808 oil filter, along with comparisons to other name-brand filters that fit the same vehicle.
Filters with similar designs include Mobil-1 and AMSOIL.
Filter Efficiency per ISO 4548-12: 99%+ @ 25 microns and 80% @ 10 microns
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Champion Labs makes Mobil-1, K&N, AC DELCO after market, Bosch, Super Tech, Royal Purple......They make many different filters for all price points for different brands. It is like ordering off a menu you pick case thickness, seal materials, case design, bypass design, etc.....and they make exactly what you ask for.They are one of the few companies with a lot of options that you can pick and chose from. Few of the other big oil filter companies give other people anywhere near that level of options for a re-branded automotive filter. Wix, Hastings, Donaldson, Fram, Puralator, Baldwin, Champion Labs all make filters for many other people all over the world.
Which is best for sn old skool car??
I'd like to see dirty oil going through a clear tubing and see how it filters or any tests afterwards.
There is one and it shows filtering the soot out of oil on a diesel engine. Was pretty interesting to see it go in black and come out not black
I'd rather watch paint dry, if you don't mind. But you are right, lab testing (or fleet testing) are the only way to determine the validity of any mechanical theory.
Agree. These are just beauty contests. How do they filter, what is the resistance, and when does the bypass open. Does the mfg even give a spec for these params.
A pressure full flow filter won’t clean the small particles that colors the oil.
You won't be able to see much difference .
Wow, I'm watching a video about oil filters. Truly, I must have no life. This is a wake up call.
Unless you’re a car guy
I think the problem is you don't eat your friends.
Yeah I agree with *Potato Tyrant*
Wont be long we will be eating Soulent Green;
Make the adjustment now so that it is not so hard;
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Purple People Eater - Sheb Wooley - 1958;
never thought i'd find myself this interested in the pleat arrangement of an oil filter . thanks for being so in-depth. this was interesting.
It is so important for the blood of your car as my dad use to say.
Any filter will work fine if its changed on time..
Nice job on the video, I still like the Wix XP also NAPA Auto parts sells the silver, gold and platinum line of oil filters made by Wix in North Carolina; made in the USA!
Made in the USA? I got a big hard-on when I heard that!
TMI, Not very many things are made here anymore sad to say.
But when you find something that is "made in America" do you get a big hard-on too?
Bought the Wix XP from Rock Auto available on Amazon cost a little more.
WIX is now owned by Mann-Hummel. The factory is next to I-85 in Gastonia NC.. the water tank is painted like a WIX filter.
I worked for Fram in Albion Illinois. We made most of the filters on this video. The pleated glass pleat is the better filtering media. The yellowed or brown paper is a cheaper option. The depth and number of pleats is important. Larger surface area for filtration.
The over flowing adhesive is because the cap spins on a machine to distribute the adhesive evenly. Its dont to all the filters in this video. Also the filtration media is put on the cap by hand.
fram is trash
fram is shit, i wouldn't put a fram on my lawn mower
@@markussone7334 yet cars are hitting over 200k using only fram 🤷♂️
Royal purple is all I use best filter of all of those.
They did a review on Hot Rod TV and they showed the Royal Purple clears out 98% of the dirt that can help your can
My guess is the reason that they made one of the holes larger than the other four holes is they wanted the volume of all the holes added together to match the volume of the center hole so there would be no restriction in flow by the filter housing since the inlet and Outlet would be the same size.
When I was in the army I was based in Germany for some years and I first came across Royal Purple as many of the US forces personnel use it in their cars. It’s not familiar in the UK and I tried it in my car. It seems to be okay but LiquiMoly, Castrol and Shell seems to be better. Royal Purple seems okay but it’s a fancy sounding name like LiquiMoly is that consumers would go for. It’s just my thoughts as my car didn’t run all that well on it.
Thanks for shining some light on my doubt on royal purple. I wasn’t sure whether I was getting my money’s worth. Great job.!🤙🏾
royal purple and amsoil oil filters are made by the same company with amsoil being the more expensive oil filter.
Yes by Champion labs
I worked in the industrial industry building lube skids & all of the big name clients like Caterpillar require a specific micron rating for there engines. These type of videos have no significance without actually testing them, you also need to take in to calculation the weight of the oil and how it changes after being warmed up by the engine.
I think these types of videos do offer significance in terms of being able to see what is actually inside of a filter you are putting on your engine. Micron testing and rating is important and I see the point regarding that for meeting spec requirements, but I am happy to see all of these videos without having to actually buy them and cut them open myself.
This is great, and when you're finished with it, it makes an even better sound suppressor for your .308 rifle.
I have seen videos of suppressors made from oil filters. No paperwork!
@@mikecampbell5856 It's the adapter that requires paperwork. Building any class 3 device without the proper documentation can put you in serious legal jeopardy.
I bet the makers of these oil filters didn't think someone somewhere would be like hey what if I cut the filters and inspect them 😂 hahah👏👏👏👌👏👏👏👏✌😁hahahah
I've always spent the extra money on Royal Purple filters! I've never had any issues and I think they do a good job with filtration. Even when I switch oils company's, the filter does it's job regardless.
I use royal purple best oil n filters highly recommended it
Thanks,,,,, informations?. Defaulting to BOSS PUROLATOR…….
Over four minutes in before you are done talking about the finish of the gasket? C'mon, are you going to compare the quality of the paint on the filter too? It *would* be interesting to see the reduction in 100, 10 and 2 micron suspended particulates rather than theorize about the "smushed" filter paper seam.
agree.
I agree! Why don’t you have a few million dollars worth of equipment to analyze micron particles at 2 and 10???
Sounds like some one has an idea for a new video .. impress me
Gasket retention failure can be a HUGE problem. Honda had a retention issue with their OEM filters for 2nd gen. CR-Vs where the factory original filter gasket remained adhered to the engine block during the first oil change. Some techs failed to notice this, resulting in stacked gaskets and oil leakage. Oil leaked onto the exhaust and started a fire. Several vehicles lost due to this. Gotta like the positive retention even though I'm pretty sure I'd notice a gasket missing on the removed filter or one stuck to the block.
the dark stuff on the bottom of the metal plates that hold the filter media in place is called Plastisol and the blend used for filters to make it turn from a liquid into a solid you cook it on a hot plate at 375 degrees Fahrenheit for around 15 minutes
You do a phenomenal job giving us juicy info, great shots with a clear voice, and nothing annoying to skip! Right amount of music too. Amazing work friend
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The thickness of the case is of little concern. The amount of oil flow and the filter media are of main concern.
I've used Royal Purple filters on my 300C; and its the only filter I'd use, except for the K&N (which is the 2nd best of those you displayed)
Mick Psyphon
I am with you on that one...
same here.....
Same here on my 2005 Honda Accord and oil. Looks like brand new inside the oil cap
Finally!! Other people besides me with some sense. Good job guys.
Royal Purple & K&N are the only filters I'll use... As far as Oil, strictly RP.
My guess is that the Royal Purple has one larger inlet hole of the five in order to tweak the flow of oil which they measure precisely. 5 the same size is just not enough.
I use MANN on my vw 1.8t because it's an OE filter. even though I don't think it's the best filter out there. It's a proven filter for my engine and it is constructed very well. My car was built and assembled in Emden Germany, close by to where the MANN filter was built.
While most videos on oil filters are loaded with crap info, this one is pretty good. Nice comments, no dead air, good facts.
I haven't seen this yet anywhere, The big 3..
Chevy:AC Delco
Ford: Motorcraft
Dodge:Mopar.
Ive always insisted on a factory filter, they usually cost the least, and im sure the factory isnt spinning on garbage filters. Goto the dealer buy 10 at a time. That will last you quite awhile nowadays. Glad to see someone doesnt get caught up in all the hype.
Just watched an AC filter cut up, paper end plates, all others sreel, junk valve and spring. Made to last 3k miles, no more. I'll never buy one.
I once ordered Motorcraft for a job as wanted to impress the customer, opened the boxes and they had Fram written on them, at the time I took this as a thumbs up for Fram but, hey, having watched Stephen Cox's video " the worst filters on the Planet" I now know that these filters are cheap and nasty.
The smaller AC Delco filters might actually be worse than Fram
Brian Cantafio could be interesting with older cars as the “factory” uses licensed filters. “Factory license” could be changed over with manufacturers, basicly with whoever the company figures out the best deal. Example: Mopar factory filters for jeeps are made by Wix (Same as NAPA gold as of recently (now?)) earlier it was made by a different company.
I do use Royal Purple oil, only use NAPA Gold/Wix for filters. Same thing but they are the best.
My 3 favorite filters.
Royal Purple
Purolator Boss
Fram Ultra
I'm actually not a Wix xp fan
The Purple has a nice combo of filtration and flow.
Hmm i been using the wix xp for about 3 years now. I have upgraded my oil to royal purple just to try but now it seems like ill switch to the filter as well, thank u
I can't believe you have never heard of royal purple, but then again, it's everywhere in the south.
Royal Purple sponsored me during my Superbike racing.
Good oil. Never had a single mechanical issue.
Did a great job protecting those huge lumpy camshafts and cylinder walls at 14,000 rpm.
Worked well with the wet sump clutch too.
RP greases and spray lubricants were good too as was the Purple Ice coolant replacement.
I never had any complaints with the RP products and used the oil in my cars and RV too.
Heck we used the used racing oil in our lawn mowers, generators and other equipment!
It never seems to break down.
Amsoil and RedLine are good products as well.
Motul is solid also.
Just a tip I do know someone who had re-rebuild an engine they just rebuilt due to an oil filter oring getting stuck to the block and a new filter with oring being placed over it. Engine had enough oil pressure to keep the idiot light off but not enough to keep the rod bearings happy. The reason for oring sticking was that the new engine paint glued it to the block. Either way, always check that the oring wasn't left behind and make sure there isn't paint under the oring for oil filter. Easiest way is just to put an oil filter on before painting.
sometimes it nice to have thinner metal on the side walls. like when you get a filter that worked it way so tight you cant get it off. that way you can drive a screwdriver threw it and bust it loose.
I know ppl say stay away from fram. But personally I've always bought their most expensive filters and I've never had a single issue all 450k plus and counting miles
I buy there cheapest and at around 215k on mine 😅
Shawn Pieper with that many miles of you really want good life out of your car quit buying that dollar store shit dude
Think about how many more miles you’d get out of it if you used a quality filter. Fram is hot garbage
Why not just buy a better filter instead of the least garbage crap filter
Quality filter. Have used it on different vehicles for many of miles. Will continue to buy them.
The way he was going, I thought there was going to be a Royal Purple Money Shot!!!
You should have shown the rest of the K&N filter. It looks like high quality from just what was shown.
It is except that it uses a nitrile anti-drainback valve, I had one fail on me during a 6000 mile oil change interval.
It doesnt matter if some of the oil bypasses the filter element, the particles will get trapped in good time anyways soon enough since the contamination doesnt form that quickly it doesnt matter if theres a perfect seal around the edges of the filter element
Couple months ago I noticed my ranger seemed like it was priming the oil system every time I started it. Had 1000 miles on the oil change. Pulled off the microguard filter I had and the anti drainback was dickered. Usually when I pull the filter the oil pump gives me a shower. Not this time. Never buying microguard again
Thanks, any other information? I run two Vehicles…2007 Canyon, 2015 Journey///4 CYLS
Just use Purolator Boss filters and you know you'll be good to go
Based on at least 100+ filter changes I have done on personal vehicles. 1) I have never had a filter seal leak or dislodge from the base. 2) I have never had a fikter case split or leak. 3) you are looking at construction, but what about filtration qualities which means you need a lab to do that test.
The blue Italian subtitles are a nice touch.
never mind how they are made which one worked best
You're mama worked the best while you stayed in her basement and went into her refrigerator...lol...kidding bro.
Filtration is very important to remove impurities. BUT Oil Flow is as or possibly more important to pad/insulate bearings, lifters, cylinder walls , remove excessive heat & protect turbos. SO, to much "Filtration" isn't worth smoking a $10,15, 20k motor!
One thing about the uniformity of the pleats with wire backing to consider is it's unused. When you actually run and cover it with hot flowing oil the wire is likely to cause them to perform similar. With respect to the uniformity effecting flow I think there will be enough give + - they'll end up the same in use. Or when you pull them out it would be virtually identical between say the royal and wix.
I've used both Wix XP and Royal Purple for the last 10-years, and when sending out oil samples on 'the same vehicle', find very little difference between the two...filtration is roughly the same...and NOTHING beats them (not Mobil-1, who also makes Royal Purple; and not K&N)...
Wix XP = 99% @ 50 microns
Royal Purple = 99% @ 25 microns
Fram Ultra Synthetic = 99% @ 20 microns
Kevin Miller wix XP 99 efficiency @ 21 microns, according to Wix website
@@egertonridout4102 just to clarify, the Wix XP is not rated 99% @ 21 microns, it is 99% @ 35 microns and the 21 micron figure relates to the smallest particulate matter that they have been tested to effectively be able to capture.
Thanks, any more in-depth informations… I like to use the RP, DEFAULTED to BOSS Purolator //Napa Gold (*for Short)mostly……Interestingly, my NEW SHOP switched tO VALVOLINE SYN. *& VO58 Filter from BULK PAK,ETC.
Also, what you using in , $& on.?
The die that made that end cap was "crashed" and repaired, so 1 oversize hole, no sense scrapping the whole tool, because nobody's going to notice, it's an oil filter.
Royal Purple started out as a synthetic oil company for drag racers in the Houston area. I know a lot of guys that run it in their competitive drag cars. I bet they are keeping the oil longer in in the filter to clean it better. Never buy a Fram. Ever. I have seen one collapsed on a Chevy 350. They are a bug light.
My oil still looks clean at 6500 miles with the WIX XP. I go 7500 miles with Royal Purple. It was a little expensive so I'm making a switch to STP Extended life 10,000 mile filters. It's under $9, and they have a silicone gasket and drain valve. The spring is also a coil. They are not wire backed, but I don't really think it's necessary. I would only get wire backing if I'm racing or towing at consistently high RPM.
Dcc357 ew
I would love to see an Motorcraft FL1A cut open
I think for the average car today...Motocraft is best bang for the buck($)
There were scientific tests done long ago by Consumer Reports that tested micron performance of filter brands and also got into quality of construction issues. Wix and Fram ultra, Purolator, and Delco were well rated. Looks like not much has changed. There were cheap filters that had metal bits from machining the case still attached. I have seen that myself on a cheap orange Fram filter, but that was 30 years ago now. I still trust the Fram ultra.
Good Stuff Great Tips😄👍🏿
I'm in oil filter heaven!
Love these videos, Can't wait for your mobile 1 comparison
You are a great hand talker
Have you done any analysis of the filter media beside visual ?
for any vehicle, filters I would choose first: Mobil1 > KN filter > Win XP > Royal Purple
based on quality and not overprice. Unfortunately I have not been able to get into Amsoil Filtration System even I already have it just planning where/when to install and location.
Royal Purple
K&N
Amsoil
Mobil 1
Great filters, I use them in variety of cars.
Need to see test results on the OIL after using these filters, NOT the inner contents.
The sins hidden under the Fram is the fact it was lab tested, had 100% filtration at 20 microns.
98% filtration at 10 microns.
It also had the best flow rate of all the synthetic filters in the test, while still managing to be the cheapest.
Granted that was the old design, and now there is a new model due to their new parent company penny pinching. The model tested would be the same as the one you have with you.
I've heard the Royal Purple costing around$16-$18. That is subjective since prices can fluctuate but it typically stays around $16-$18 give or take. The Fram Ultra Synthetic roughly goes for $8-$10 dollars at Wal-Mart and is readily available instead of ordering it or if you know a royal purple retailer. Personally for me, Royal Purple is a great filter but its not worth it. The Wix, Purolator, and K&N are great as well and those are typically also $11-$14. Also readily available at certain auto parts stores.
And that’s why I hit the local Walmart and grab a Fram Ultra for under $9!
purlator is like $3
But that $3 Purolator has a history of the filtering media tearing while in use. I will use my Fram Ultra with a much more stout, full synthetic media. And if I can't get that, I'll go with a Wix XP.
Amazon = Readily Available (and if you are truly prepared, have one on hand)
Price difference is moot. Even if you change oil four time a year which is overkill for average driver, you're talking 30 extra dollars a year. For me it's worth the 30 dollars for extra protection. I've been using royal purple filters and oils for more than a decade in my cars' engines, transmissions, differentials, and transfer cases. One is a 2000 the other is 2004. IMO new or rebuilt components cost more than then little bit extra I spend on premo oils and filters.
that coil spring end cap is a wix not royal purple, purple has a leaf spring
So what filter do you plan on using long term?
I like the Bosch for the thinner material for better flow. You gotta get oil to the engine.
I was comparing Fram and Royal Purple at the store yesterday and saw that the Fram Ultra has 99% filtration down to 20 microns while the Royal Purple only does to 25 microns. Seems kinda funny how that works and that the joint on the RP is tacky and looks like it'd allow debris to get through.
I been using my oil filter from Walmart for years my Honda has over 340 thousand miles on engine and still driven strong...I change verytime it’s get to 100%to 30% ....
Love that Bosch oil filter.
You should try going to Napa and asking if can get a number for their filter rep and let him answer some of your questions and tell you some of the six advantages and disadvantages.
Thank you for your video
Would you do a side by side cut open video of the Purolator Boss vs Bosch Distance Plus vs Wix XP?
Could you cut open an Amsoil vs Mobil1 vs Royal Purple?
Jay Wolfe
Yes please let me know now that would be great
Amsoil and Royal Purple are the exact same.
@@TranslatedAssumption Wix makes both I think.
Why? So we can waste more time?
@@nunya2445 champion labs I believe
Great video! Could you do a Fleetguard vs Donaldson for heavy duty diesel engines.
It would be nice if you could mention the micron ratings for these filters
Which filter has the best micron to capture percent ratio?
ROYAL PURPLE ✨✨👑💜💯
Why is the K&N there if he isn't going to show us the pleats on the filter? Left me super curious about it.
These are good filters but I prefer an OAM filter for the reason that I'm going to state oil pressure Especially if the engine is still under warranty No guessing with factory filters those filters are designed for your car doesn't matter who makes them they're designed for your car.
Wanna see 3k used oil weight of how much was captured and if can still be used after 3k.
Neat color, great sticker... And there's probably little to no glue on the fram possibly explaining why you see no glue.
And if you could see the glue some other Fram basher would complain about that.
@JackTannehillPromoter fram basher lol. It's all for good reason, those things use to be complete garbage. Enough of a reason not to buy now
Royal Purple best oil, best filter ever, nuff said motor on.
If you cut enough filters apart, you will find their are a limited number of filter manufacturers in North America, indeed in the world. Many of the everyday brands we see are made by the same few companies with a different paint job. Many "brands" don't even manufacture anything, they just buy a filter with their name painted on the side. Some of the brands are owned by the came company and they produce a cheap brand one brand in one factory and a higher priced brand in another, or just produce one quality and sell it at different price levels.
You could look up the specs from the various manufacturers and compare them if you could get comparable specs across the board, but you can't. Manufacturers play fast and loose with micron ratings. Beta ratings and contaminant holding ratings are also a bit arbitrary. If they all use the same SAE standard test and release the results, you would know.
I will say these things after 45 years in the Heavy Duty business using and selling filters:
- I had a premium brand filter that had an electron beam welded can versus vs. a drawn one and it leaked a fine spray. Not a good thing near a turbocharger.
- I had a premium quality filter in marine application, freshwater recreational use, used one season. Dry docked over winter it rusted right through.
- I had premium filters that the gasket wasn't secure, it would fall out if you tipped the filter which some installers didn't notice which led to unhappy customers and an engine failure.
- Filters with thicker cans will fair better under high pressure caused by cold temperatures and/or high volume oil pumps. They will take the strain after lesser cans have swollen or burst, not uncommon in the north.
- I've never had or seen a failure of a cheap oil filter under normal conditions.
50 years ago Fram had a TV ad, "You can pay me now or pay me later" in which a crusty mechanic advised "Change your oil and filter now or pay me to replace your engine later". It was good advise.
"Do not" buy a Fram oil filter.
If you do not believe me then, watch this video.....The worst oil filters on the PLANET!!!
This is on You Tube.
After I saw this, I changed my oil filter.
Awesome video. Thanks a lot.
Neil Williams Ferrari and Lamborghini used fram and is the recomended for all classic Ferrari and Lamborghini. Also I run fram on all my vehicles including my work truck that I drive hard and tow with over 250k miles my jeep xj with over 200k miles and that hits az trails all the time and my 293k ae86 gts that I track and daily so whats the problem with fram?
If you watched this video ........The worst oil filters on the PLANET!!! then, you know why.
Neil Williams you are dumb
Neil Williams oh so a youtube video and the person that made it is smarter than all the manufacturers and classic car restores? Most popular oil filter and of they are the worst then why are they the most popular? Can't be that bad if all my vehicles run fram and are between 200k and 300k miles and I've never had an issue.
To each their own.
Great informative video! Do you think I could use a royal purple filter on my 2016 Subaru Forrester instead of the stock one that comes from Subaru? Thank you!
Royal purple,K&N, And Bosch are made by Champion Labs.
AMS Oil Filters are marketed the same way.
I use a Bosch Premium 3330 on my Harley Sportster. Its Rated for 20 Microns. Only about $6. Can get them locally at Pep or Auto Zone. I use the Bosch Distance Plus, Same Part # as this review on a Hyundai Tucson. Used to be able to get the Bosch DP at Walmart. But they stopped selling them.
you should include k&n in one of these tests
If the inlet holes total size is more than the outlet hole size it wouldn't matter. If it's less then it would make a difference
I was pretty sure the Royal Purple filter was made by Mobil 1 ... but that understanding is dated. The Mobil 1 filter had a reputation of being on the restrictive side ... too restrictive for some applications.
Royal Purple and Aimes oil are supposed to be identical part for part,....except for the color.
I found micro green oil filters and have swapped over entirely.
I really like this filter and it I have used the oil too for years but I wish they never use purple color in the oil it just goes brown or darker color and I like the oil cleaner that is me.
Buy a microscope and count the number and size of particles that get thru the filter media. Then, do a flow test to determine the pressure drop at a given flow rate, temperature, viscosity and the pressure at which the bypass valve opens.
The louvered core filters have slivers of metal inside not to mention poor flow. I like the holes but many of those have glue or debris inside. I check the threads too. Sometimes it seems like there's nothing in a name on the box. Just whoever's making filters that day
To really compare them. You need to make pixie glass case and run oil through them. Read the pressure it reads and how clean it keeps your oil. I run fram alot and My 2005 3.8 dodge minivan has 270k on it.
Hope AMSoil filters are next!
Interesting, like to see that.
@@williamschuman4951 Not so!! Been using them for years.
They are high quality filters like that of Royal Purple.
@@extremedrivr You're probably right, time to change my text.
@@williamschuman4951 I deffinitely would not be using them if I had not done loads and loads of reserch of my own.
Some other companies are getting better with their filters but have a long way to catch up.
Hi. Thanks for interesting video. How about dissecting a GUD filter from South Africa. I used these filters all the time and they seemed to do the job, but it would be interesting to see what they are like inside. Cheers.
I GO PURPLE ALL THE WAY,
OIL FILTER, OIL, AND EVEN MY NEW MATTRESS ALL PURPLE
Don't use K&N. Or at least check on it frequently. They kick and or pinch the seal after a few miles. I e had two (credit to O Riellys, and offered free replacement) so far do it and my work truck did the same. I can't find any RP oil filter suppliers in my area and hate ordering parts I can't readly return if I have a issue with it. Great video
The oil will not care about the pleat spacing though it does show quality.
have you thought about getting a oil filter relocation kit and turning it into some sort of flow tester?