Of course we know some people need help. But that is part of it. Choose Jesus and he will help you get there. How do you know it won’t work. Maybe the 12th step program is the thing that will heal you! God bless you and anyone struggling.
Saying give your money, sexuality, time, etc. Jesus is important, however sometimes people need a little more guidance and support and how to do that. I found the 12 step programs to be Very helpful in showing me how to be in spiritual principles around these things and in providing spiritual support with other travelers. I heal in community.
Saying, “stop, get control of the thing “is not how addiction works. If a person could, they would’ve already by now. A person who is really struggling with a substance or behavior or mental illness needs help and support. Please include this in your ministry
This is true in order to gain control we need to give control to God. We tried to think it through and gain control but it never worked, we were powerless. If a mere code of morals or a better philosophy of life were sufficient to overcome alcoholism, many of us would have recovered long ago. But we found that such codes and philosophies did not save us, no matter how much we tried. We could wish to be moral, we could wish to be philosophically comforted, in fact, we could will these things with all our might, but the needed power wasn’t there. Our human resources, as marshalled by the will, were not sufficient; they failed utterly. Lack of power, that was our dilemma. We had to find a power by which we could live, and it had to be a Power greater than ourselves.
@@angelasen2517 4 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! He only read that one part of the chapter but what comes before is really powerful
Thank you for this message. Really hit home with me.
Of course we know some people need help. But that is part of it. Choose Jesus and he will help you get there. How do you know it won’t work. Maybe the 12th step program is the thing that will heal you! God bless you and anyone struggling.
Saying give your money, sexuality, time, etc. Jesus is important, however sometimes people need a little more guidance and support and how to do that. I found the 12 step programs to be Very helpful in showing me how to be in spiritual principles around these things and in providing spiritual support with other travelers. I heal in community.
Saying, “stop, get control of the thing “is not how addiction works. If a person could, they would’ve already by now. A person who is really struggling with a substance or behavior or mental illness needs help and support. Please include this in your ministry
This is true in order to gain control we need to give control to God. We tried to think it through and gain control but it never worked, we were powerless. If a mere code of morals or a better philosophy of life were sufficient to overcome alcoholism, many of us would have recovered long ago. But we found that such codes and philosophies did not save us, no matter how much we tried. We could wish to be moral, we could wish to be philosophically comforted, in fact, we could will these things with all our might, but the needed power wasn’t there. Our human resources, as marshalled by the will, were not sufficient; they failed utterly.
Lack of power, that was our dilemma. We had to find a power by which we could live, and it had to be a Power greater than ourselves.
@@grantjmiller15nailed it!
@@angelasen2517 4 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
He only read that one part of the chapter but what comes before is really powerful