Aside from death, house fires are the most devastating things ever. Yes, its only material, but your home is everything. It's your comfort zone, something you work so hard for, everything you've ever purchased/stored, memories, paperwork, photos, heirlooms, your family gathering headquarters - All gone forever in only a matter of minutes.
I agree. Lost ours on 12-23-89. It is your safe place away from the world. I missed my childrens mementos. It is just devastating. Some had very rude comments such as just be glad no one died ( in an insensitive tone). Of course we were. But it rattles your security and our 4 children went through a lot of grieving.
I have watched numerous videos of firefighters responding to a fire scene. In most cases, the firefighters walk around like it's no big deal that a home is ablaze. The guys from Mendon showed up and immediately reacted to the situation. MG, they were actually running back and forth to get hoses set up. Kudos to them.
A lot of times because of the equipment and the hard work involved in fighting a fire, we need to conserve our energy and breathing to perform tasks. This allows us to slow down and ensure we are doing everything right. We can’t be going crazy or you will be tired in two minutes. If you don’t believe me go to the local volunteer fire station, put on some gear and drag a hose line for a few minutes.
Actually the chief who is in the white hat should have walked around the property when he first got there to assess the fire from all sides and to determine if there were other exposures . Based on this video , which may be incomplete this was not done.
You don't often see firemen running because running is too dangerous while wearing bunker gear. Bunker gear is heavy, stiff and unwieldy... FAR too easy to trip. And if you have your mask on, your downwards visibility is severely restricted.
The car at the front door belonged to the victim. This appears to have been a suicide. His body was found in the living room where the fire was burning. His girlfriend had died a few months earlier and it's reported he was seriously depressed. Very tragic.
Jane McCabe He’s making fun of all the people who come on here and say stuff like that based on what they’ve seen on the internet. Google fire academy? Online firefighting since ‘08? Funny!
The way I was taught, way back when, is that we had two inch-and-a-half preconnects in a crosslay bed. If you're the nozzleman, you grabbed the nozzle and the first loop of hose, pulled the whole load out a quarter way and hefted it onto your shoulder and took off for the front door, the hoseline paying off your shoulder. By the time you got to the door, you had a back-up with you and you threw the remainder of the load off and your back up would flake out the hose to keep it from linking. By the time you were ready to go in, the big guys with the axe and halligan were forcing the front door open for you and in you went, right to the seat of the fire.
Exactly. Always pull the loop for the crosslay. That's the way I have always been taught. However, I am a smaller person and I have dropped it before, but that's where training comes in. You learn from your mistakes.
After watching firefighters in another video just walk around lazily and taking over 5 minutes to start putting out the fire, THIS video is quite impressive. They were all quick in their response.
Car sitting in front of the house with the door wide open. Even before reading the description I kinda wondered if there wasn't some kind of foul play involved.
It was set intentionally. Suicide by fire. The car was the victims. The victims girlfriend had died of cancer several months before so he must of been really depressed. Poor dog
Finally I see a fire crew who know how to attack a house fire in it's early stages. Seconds count initially and rapid deployment of water is essential to prevent the fire from rapidly escalating. The fire crew in this video moved quickly and had water on the fire in just a few seconds after arrival on scene. They attacked the base of the fire and worked upwards. Ventilation of the attic spaces was done to mop up any fire that had gotten up there and to clear out smoke. Terrible the man died in the fire but kudos have to go out to this department for doing everything right. I am an ex fireman and this is how we were taught.
Brandon Brammer because primary search isn’t a search for victims, it’s a search for fire. A primary search is supposed to be a rapid, aggressive search to locate the main body of fire. A secondary search once the main body of fire is knocked down is supposed to be in greater depth to find victims. When you find a victim on a primary search, obviously you go to rescue operations. However, that is not the main goal of a primary search.
Matt Weeks no thats incorrect. A primary search is quick search for victims, secondary is more throughout and slow usually by a different set of eyes. Sometimes the best thing todo is knock the fire down to make the area more tenable, you can have a search team and attack working at the same or search and attack the fire at the same time
@@mattweeks2272 Bro a primary search is literally done to find victims. I highly encourage that you read the textbook again or participate more with your local fire department
@ Caramel Delight Are you dumb? They were adjusting the pressure and getting ready to raise that stream. We are all joking about the bush needing a watering but you made yourself look stupid. We know they aren't watering a fucking bush. But even more ridiculous is you thinking that the fire is going to spread from that bush. It's not as if the area is in any way dry enough for that
Response looked okay here. Granted I'm just commenting from my couch and have no idea how to fight a fire. Good job on getting water on this quickly, like within 2 minutes.
I think it's hard to pass judgement from just this vedio that is cut up. They had limited manpower and water when they arrived. Any fire scene always can be done differently and better. These guys did get water on the fire pretty quick and knock it down. Remember no one does this job with the thought of not trying to do it right.
Now that is a MUCH better way of stating things then how some of the others are putting them down on here. Thank you for your respect to our fellow responders. We all see many things wrong but how others in our line of work are destroying these people, I am glad it is not them that I look to on having my back going in.
If this was a suicide, I am no one to judge that person but I just wish before he set the fire he would let the dog get outside. Who knows maybe he didn't because the dog might alert neighbors. This is just so sad.
After reading some of the comments, I decided to do a little research. I found that Mendon Fire Dept. has "paid on-call" firefighters. Sounds like it may be partially paid and volunteer in that area. This can have a direct affect on the skill level of the responding personnel due to reduced hands-on training that can be provided to the firefighters. This could be why the initial hose deployment was problematic. Additionally, firefighters have what is referred to as "Rules of Engagement." Rules of engagement is a mental exercise that an incident commander must use before deciding on a particular strategy. In this instance, it is possible that the incident commander knew or had received information of an attempted suicide by fire. This may lead an IC to be more cautious regarding an initial interior attack. What is the occupant survival profile in an incident like this? Firefighters DO NOT risk their life for lives or property that cannot be saved. Many factors have to be considered by the incident commander. There is no substitute for training and experience.
@Jim COOK Probably best if we agree to disagree. I've found that arguing in the comment section doesn't do any of us any good. It's been over a year since I posted this response and I had to watch the video again and read the comments below. My statement regarding the line placement was in response to several other posters who were critical of the way the pre-connect line was pulled, flaked out, and deployed. My comments were meant to squash some of the derogatory posts that I was seeing. I applaud the efforts of these volunteers for their efforts to support the community. but in my opinion, the hose was poorly deployed. It required a minimum of 4 personnel to pull, flake, and advance the hose line. There was way too much "spaghetti" at the engine, which led to a delay in getting water on the fire. It took over a minute to flow any water. Secondary to the hose pull/deployment, spraying water from their vantage point would have pushed the fire farther into the structure. It also looks like the video is edited at about the 3:08 minute mark, so we really don't know how long it took them to knock down the fire. I want to re-emphasize, that I believe these volunteer firefighters did the best that they could with their level of training and experience. Given the information and circumstances surrounding this call, I'm not sure that I would have implemented a quick interior attack either. Additionally, these firefighters deal with much different circumstances that I did in my career. I worked for a suburban, adequately staffed fire department with 3 minute response times. I could have an entire first alarm assignment on scene within 5-6 minutes. So obviously, my tactics and strategy would be different than a rural, volunteer fire department with extended response times.
@@FFEMTB08 Here is a brief description: www.commandsafety.com/2010/09/01/rules-of-engagement-2010/#gref. Google Rules of Engagement for Firefighters for more detailed info.
Has got to be one of the worst first attacks I have ever seen. You never pull a cross lay and just dump the hose next to the engine. You pull it and stretch it at the same time. Initial water on fire should have been directed into the house before fully watering the bush out front. Knock down fire then get bush. Glad I don't live there.
Just a few questions. Why was so much hose pulled initially w/o charging the first line. And the two ff's who first started flowing water, why were they so far away from the house, mask up and go get it. Yes I know the smoke conditions were indicating high heat but you have water use it to cool everything down.
2:45 Tis is what todays "safety" standards have done to firemen. They've taught firemen to be afraid of fighting the fire. They've become too safe for their own good. Get the fuck up to the window and put the damn fire out. It's just a little radiant heat. You can't put the fire out effectively while standing 30 feet from the house. It's not being unsafe and reckless to get a few feet closer and actually water on the fire. We're firefighters, not fire watchers
The NFPA has single handedly pussified the fire service. Pencil pushers behind a desk have stripped firemen of their bravery by not allowing us to be aggressive anymore. We used to belly in and push the fire out. I guess now we stand on the front lawn and water the garden?
Similar thing is happening to the EMS industry. It's why I got out. Medic students are being taught to over-think everything. It's a shame. This isn't a profession for bookworms. It's gritty and when the shit hits the fan you need to be able to think quick, act quick and use your instincts. I hate what they're doing to the medical industry, and apparently what they're doing to the fire industry as well.
Agreed. My certification through IU was 95% classroom and most of that was boring repetitive videos. It was the same for my HAZWOPER, HAZMAT and confined space rescue classes.
I’m a Firefighter out on Long Island NY, thank god I haven’t had to experience this yet, I pray I never do. Gotta sucks losing a human life, I would 2nd guess everything I did that day, but sometimes you can’t save everybody
I mean honestly it sounds like the dude offed himself after setting the house on fire so in all fairness there was probably no way to save him under any circumstances.
Forget about hitting it from the outside....they were all wearing SCBA and could have easily entered the front door and cut off the involved room on the right from the rest of the house. And what was the point of cutting the roof at that stage of the fire - there was no further need for vertical venting. Not one yard breather even bothered to try to gain entry to attempt a rescue of a KNOWN VICTIM WITHIN. This video is a disgrace to the fire service.
Senior Officer to a point I agree, this looks like a volley service which IMO you’re lucky anyone is even volunteering to help your sorry ass because you’re too cheap to pay. As far as a victim inside. Gotta weigh it out, on arrival a lot of heavy black smoke and heat in there so if Vic is above the fire room, they’re absolutely gone. I’d still say go for a transitional attack, hold it at the door and send a company upstairs for search BUT based on their skill demonstration it was probably best they didn’t. You don’t want to go aimlessly killing people due to inexperience level, considering you’re a senior officer you should’ve noticed that much. As far as disgraceful, if they’re a paid fire co then yes totally agree. If you’re a volley you get some slack cut because the town is too cheap to pay for educated people. Want free shit, get weak services.
@@imaekkhawmints7015 70% of all fire rescue services are staffed by volunteers. The training and professionalism is at least as good as paid departments UL, NIST, IAFF, and NFPA ensure through the fire accreditation program to maintain their accreditation all fire rescue services must maintain a minimum set of standards regarding training apparatus Personal Protective Equipment and all other equipment and tools possessed by said department. In many cases the volunteer gets training that is more extensive than paid departments because there is no shift structure so the more people must know how to operate the apparatus and know tactics to suppress and extinguish a fire.
David Lenzi I could’ve had said it better!! Been volunteering for over a year now and it’s been great! For those who down volunteers you are completely disrespectful! Like you said 70%!! And believe it or not but lots of volunteer depts get way more calls for service than a paid do! We volunteers get the same training but in my opinion get way more training than paid depts. paid depts you get shifts and you’re off a couple days or whatever but remember volunteers are NEVER off and most run everyday 24 hours all 365 days!
@@shymeikburger8696 The one thing you didn't mention is there is no guarantee that any particular Volunteer Firefighter will be available for every fire. I know I missed several callouts due to my work.
MENDON - A man who died with his dog in a two-alarm house fire Friday has been identified by neighbors as the companion of the late homeowner. Neighbors told the MetroWest Daily News that Sean Moriarty lived alone in the four-bedroom Colonial at 9 Sandra Circle, which burned Friday. The state fire marshal’s office has said the blaze was deliberately set. Authorities on Sunday had yet to officially identify the man whose lifeless body was pulled from the house by firefighters called to the blaze at 4:45 p.m. Friday. Neighbors told the paper the victim was Mr. Moriarty, who had a reputation as a recluse. Mr. Moriarty operated a carpentry business out of the house, according to an online Yellow Pages listing. The Worcester County Registry of Deeds listed the homeowner as Barbara J. Adams, who died in March. An obituary listed Mr. Moriarty as her companion. The fire remained under investigation this weekend by the offices of the state fire marshal and the Worcester district attorney. Firefighters at the fire on Friday attempted to resuscitate a dog rescued from the house but were unsuccessful.
Deliberately set huh? Right..... this recluse just wanted to die one of the most painful and agonizing ways and take his loyal pet out the same way. 24 years on the job and I find that incredibly hard to believe. Certainly would like to hear what evidence they had that a conclusion such as arson was suspected. Although I suppose someone else could have done it in broad daylight. Lol
Normally, when firefighters first arrive (1:22), they quickly pull hose and use reserve water from the engine (2:24) while the driver attaches a hydrant to the rig. In this case, I'm not sure if that area doesn't have hydrants nearby but you can clearly hear the pumps from the engines working (3:31 you can still hear it) while they're hosing the fire. So they were using water from the engine to put the fire out. Not sure for how long.
If this is how they determined this fire was arson, these state fire marshal investigators seriously need to go back to school! The following quote I found from the Milford Daily Newspaper.... “Though the fire was set intentionally, “the public is not at risk,” said Jennifer Mieth, spokesperson for the Fire Marshal’s office. The Marshal’s office concluded it was arson through a process of elimination, said Mieth. “They ruled out all other possible causes. That is their deductive reasoning process,” she said of investigators. How the fire was physically caused has not been made public
A primary search was possible, especially with the car door open in the driveway, and the front door open too indicating possible occupants within. The victim may still not have made it but c'mon. This was an easy hit. Get in there, engine with one line on the fire, truck doing the search. Manpower problems? Engine do the search with a can on the fire.
I don't know the city of Mendon and what manpower and equipment that department has but as a captain I more thank likely would have initiated a search.
Nice video but since when do you yank out 90% of the hose and lay it next to the engine then have to untangle it? And since when do you ventilate AFTER the fire??
1:32 In Poland, if a firefighter commander saw such coiled fire hoses, he would have each fireman reel these hoses on his return until they are coiled as best he can.
You know what bugs me about these kind of videos? The descriptions never get updated. Video is 3 and a half years ago, but "the fire is still under investigation by both the district attorney office and fire marshal." If I had a genie one of my three wishes would be for people to update their descriptions because I doubt these old incidents are still under investigation.
@FW911 Maybe you should quit being a whiny-ass bitch and Google it then - there is enough information to go on in the description. You're on the internet for fuck's sake, stop being a lazy twat
I don't know a lot about firefighting but, St. Paul have pre connect hoses on the ladder trucks, they are 2", on a hose reel, I've seen them with them, pull all you need turn on the water, also they have their equipment on when they leave the truck...
That's what I thought. When I first watched this I thought he was being a dick but then I realized that when there are fires like this there are always lookey loos who are dumb enough to park their vehicles right in front of the scene and get out to watch. The person who he was yelling at probably had it coming.
+dan waltemyer No kidding. Get off the engine in full turnouts with SCBA in place, take the line in the front door and push the fire out the right side of the house.
Steven J. Feuerstein votes Trump/Pence 2016 House fires aren't like they were 50 years ago. You don't understand all the material that when burned is toxic and how you don't know what all is toxic or not.
An honest question from a non fire fighter. Has there ever been a clamour for fitting top mounting directional high pressure water jet’s on the fire trucks such that immediately upon arrival some water can be directed upon the blaze? It just seems so obvious. Surely these should be standard - they look techified enough to make this small adjustment.
Many apparatus do have the top mounted gun you describe. However, these would require at least 500 gallons per mimute and would have dumped the tank on that truck in two minutes. That was the only truck there initially and there were no hydrants there. Until the tanker arrived, the water supply would have been exhausted...
Rick pretty much lays it out but in my experience most of the deck mounted Howitzers are 1250gpm... making short work of any carried water. Most trucks that arrive first have less than up to ~ 1000gpm (usually between 600 and 850ish) and they need to make that water last until backup arrives. When you get up to 1000 gallons you start trending towards dual axels- heavier apparatus that are less agile... take longer to respond... get stuck easier etc so there's always a balance when spec'ing out apparatus. To Rick's credit when I went back to look at the video I do see it's a smoothbore (solid stream) nozzle on the Howitzer so depending on the tip size he might recognize it as a ~500gpm diameter though it looks a bit girthier than that to me. Georg take a look at about 1:23 to 1:25 and you can see the exact appliance you're asking about on the roof right where all the hoses are hanging off. Adding this to apparatus retroactively is no small affair... since much of the plumbing around the pump body needs to be modified. Some ground appliances can be deployed in the absence of a Howitzer... but then you run into the deployment problem again- it takes time. Also- These aren't "high pressure" per se... since pressure and volume are exchanged if the size of the orifice stays the same. So if I'm going to use "high" pressure then I'm going to get less volume out of that orifice... if I want higher volume then I need to pull the pressure down. If we know water is closeby then a quick 15-20 second smash with the Howitzer is not unheard of while the handlines are deployed... This sets the fire back a few minutes and buys time to connect the water supply (whether it's stretched out to us or we pull back to it) while the smaller diameter handlines protect exposures. So yes, Georg you're on target and it's a good question.
There is no truer act of devotion than that in which a human being lays down his life for another. Nasty comments can never change that truth. The firefighters here placed lives over property and NFPA, ISFSI, UL, as well as numerous state and federal laws both criminal and civil require that fire rescue service personnel do exactly that while minimizing the risk of injury to the firefighters. That is the reality of contemporary firefighting laws and regulations that have resulted in protocols and tactics to be used as guidelines in developing and executing a comprehensive and coordinated fire attack. Lord God in heaven protect and keep safe these brave members of the fire rescue service wherever they may be. If in Your wisdom you call one of our brothers or sisters to be with you. It will be with sad hearts we shall say goodbye. Our true honor to our fallen is and will continue to be to answer the call for help and save lives and property to the best of our abilities. There are those among us who study the beast we call fire and develop tools and apparatus as well as expanding our knowledge to better the skills we have and enable greater efficiency in executing any fire attack.
+John Mauro it was the cop. he was yelling at whoever to get their car in the driveway and i'm not gonna tell you again. that is what he is saying. i guess if you don't comply, you get arrested for not moving your vehicle off the public street.
+18dmedic, I think John knows who was yelling that, PO stands for police officer you know, that's what John meant when he asked who is the PO yelling at.
At least they were packed up and ready to go. Didn't take too long to sort out the spaghetti. Seen a lot of videos where they arrive with half of their gear on and not ready for anything.
Aside from death, house fires are the most devastating things ever. Yes, its only material, but your home is everything. It's your comfort zone, something you work so hard for, everything you've ever purchased/stored, memories, paperwork, photos, heirlooms, your family gathering headquarters - All gone forever in only a matter of minutes.
it was set on fire by the owner...
You are so right, devastating...
What a dumbass
My phobia. guess thats why I'm here watchin
I agree. Lost ours on 12-23-89. It is your safe place away from the world. I missed my childrens mementos. It is just devastating. Some had very rude comments such as just be glad no one died ( in an insensitive tone). Of course we were. But it rattles your security and our 4 children went through a lot of grieving.
So sorry for the loss of life. Thank God for our 1st responders. May God bless & keep them safe.
What happened with the guy and his girlfriend I don't see it here thank you
Rest in Peace Sir and for the dog.
I have watched numerous videos of firefighters responding to a fire scene. In most cases, the firefighters walk around like it's no big deal that a home is ablaze. The guys from Mendon showed up and immediately reacted to the situation. MG, they were actually running back and forth to get hoses set up. Kudos to them.
A lot of times because of the equipment and the hard work involved in fighting a fire, we need to conserve our energy and breathing to perform tasks. This allows us to slow down and ensure we are doing everything right. We can’t be going crazy or you will be tired in two minutes. If you don’t believe me go to the local volunteer fire station, put on some gear and drag a hose line for a few minutes.
Actually the chief who is in the white hat should have walked around the property when he first got there to assess the fire from all sides and to determine if there were other exposures . Based on this video , which may be incomplete this was not done.
These firemen were ready to go! It's not often you actually see them running. Great job in getting the main fire under control, God bless you all!
You don't often see firemen running because running is too dangerous while wearing bunker gear.
Bunker gear is heavy, stiff and unwieldy... FAR too easy to trip.
And if you have your mask on, your downwards visibility is severely restricted.
Never run on a fire scene
I've only been firefighting on youtube for a year but let me go ahead and layout everything these firefighters did wrong
😂😂 exactly
Hahahahahahaha!!!
Starting with the slow arrival.
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Lmao!
Not sure about slow arrival. These videos really show how quickly a fire can grow.
The car at the front door belonged to the victim. This appears to have been a suicide. His body was found in the living room where the fire was burning. His girlfriend had died a few months earlier and it's reported he was seriously depressed. Very tragic.
How sad
It's aweful not only for the family but also the first responders
@@dianemainiero6760 Very sad
Very sad. Thank you for thr update.
BEtter this way. If he have got married to her, divorce may cost even more lifes.
"Put that caah in the driveway, I dont want it in the street heea.
Putcha Caah in ya draive waay."
You are funny....good one smartass
Fireman thought empty car was occupied. Also, only people from Mass can make fun of that accent--no outsiders!!
Bryan Yep. That’s what goes awwn ovah heeah. 🤣
Lol!!
Mudtothedamea always my favorite of all time would love to meet Tyler perry
Those firefighters suck! I graduated Google Fire Academy in '08 and I've been fighting online fires since then.
Bet you are 1st in your class!! Bet it was a Special class for a special person like yourself
That’s hilarious! So true!
Jane McCabe He’s making fun of all the people who come on here and say stuff like that based on what they’ve seen on the internet. Google fire academy? Online firefighting since ‘08? Funny!
And I bet your wear your turnouts to watch! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
@@janemccabe603 He's joking you moron. When have you ever heard of fighting fires on-line. ?
Excellent work of the firemen! It saved the entire house here! Very good and quick response!
The way I was taught, way back when, is that we had two inch-and-a-half preconnects in a crosslay bed. If you're the nozzleman, you grabbed the nozzle and the first loop of hose, pulled the whole load out a quarter way and hefted it onto your shoulder and took off for the front door, the hoseline paying off your shoulder. By the time you got to the door, you had a back-up with you and you threw the remainder of the load off and your back up would flake out the hose to keep it from linking. By the time you were ready to go in, the big guys with the axe and halligan were forcing the front door open for you and in you went, right to the seat of the fire.
kinking, not linking.
Exactly. Always pull the loop for the crosslay. That's the way I have always been taught. However, I am a smaller person and I have dropped it before, but that's where training comes in. You learn from your mistakes.
RIP the man and dog that perished, and regards to the family that owned the home.
He obviously loved his deceased gf and knew there was no one else for him. Rest In Peace bud.
These men need some serious practice. Did you see the tangled mess of hoses at the 2:10 mark?
@Patriots Nation 4 Life Tom Brady is GOAT well... water does put fire out.. there wasn't really that much fire there.
David Smith you've never pulled a cross lay have you? That being said we keep our crosslays shorter, but maybe that works better for their area.
Luckily he saved the bush he was hosing down as the fire raged.
After watching firefighters in another video just walk around lazily and taking over 5 minutes to start putting out the fire, THIS video is quite impressive. They were all quick in their response.
I think they made a good job. But it would be much faster with the right equipment. Like in Europe.
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Not to have a swing at firemen, but I saw that too, i've watched a bunch of videos and there was a real lack of urgency quite often.
Car sitting in front of the house with the door wide open. Even before reading the description I kinda wondered if there wasn't some kind of foul play involved.
I thought the same thing but there isn't a story on it anywhere.
According to the State Fire Marshall it was arson
It was set intentionally. Suicide by fire. The car was the victims. The victims girlfriend had died of cancer several months before so he must of been really depressed. Poor dog
man, I heard that, I'm a lt. and coming off a truck for 23 years, I had a fit when he didn't advance that line, poor leadership.
I know nothing about the fire dept putting out fires but i could tell from previous videos that this was a poor response to getting things moving.
I kept saying MOVE UP
5:16 - it’s an odd time to be putting a skylight in
Finally I see a fire crew who know how to attack a house fire in it's early stages. Seconds count initially and rapid deployment of water is essential to prevent the fire from rapidly escalating. The fire crew in this video moved quickly and had water on the fire in just a few seconds after arrival on scene. They attacked the base of the fire and worked upwards. Ventilation of the attic spaces was done to mop up any fire that had gotten up there and to clear out smoke. Terrible the man died in the fire but kudos have to go out to this department for doing everything right. I am an ex fireman and this is how we were taught.
It was suicide.
They spent more time and energy screwing with the cross lay than trying to gain some ground to do a primary search for victims.
Brandon Brammer because primary search isn’t a search for victims, it’s a search for fire. A primary search is supposed to be a rapid, aggressive search to locate the main body of fire. A secondary search once the main body of fire is knocked down is supposed to be in greater depth to find victims. When you find a victim on a primary search, obviously you go to rescue operations. However, that is not the main goal of a primary search.
Matt Weeks no thats incorrect. A primary search is quick search for victims, secondary is more throughout and slow usually by a different set of eyes. Sometimes the best thing todo is knock the fire down to make the area more tenable, you can have a search team and attack working at the same or search and attack the fire at the same time
Matt Weeks what joke of an academy did you graduate from? Your statement is completely incorrect.
They were trying to get a plan probably
@@mattweeks2272 Bro a primary search is literally done to find victims. I highly encourage that you read the textbook again or participate more with your local fire department
Hmm, seems everybody's a critic. Sympathies to the victim's family.
so did the person ever put there car in a driveway
I'm fucking dead dude lmao
he wasnt being an ass, he told the guy once to move it, assuming to make room for the FD, the guy didnt and he had to yell at him.
@Michael Uhlir Should have shot the a hole.
I thought he died in the fire.
🤣🤣🤣 we may never know
god bless the person who died in that fire and the poor doggie to and i hope the person who started this fire rots in jail.
Might not be arson, could be a accident. But I agree with you, if someone did start this intentionally they should be severely punished!
kevin O It was Intentionally set read the discription!
You shut up thats what i was telling kevin o it was not an accident i feel bad for the guy who lost his life too
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Honestly it was probably the guy who set it who died
I want to thank these fire fighters for watering the plants before the house, PLANT LIVES MATTER!!!!
That's funny I didn't think of that
I was wondering what that was about.
Are you stupid?
@ Caramel Delight Are you dumb? They were adjusting the pressure and getting ready to raise that stream. We are all joking about the bush needing a watering but you made yourself look stupid. We know they aren't watering a fucking bush. But even more ridiculous is you thinking that the fire is going to spread from that bush. It's not as if the area is in any way dry enough for that
Caramel Delight Why do you need to call people morons. Don't you think that's rather rude?
Response looked okay here. Granted I'm just commenting from my couch and have no idea how to fight a fire. Good job on getting water on this quickly, like within 2 minutes.
I think it's hard to pass judgement from just this vedio that is cut up. They had limited manpower and water when they arrived. Any fire scene always can be done differently and better. These guys did get water on the fire pretty quick and knock it down. Remember no one does this job with the thought of not trying to do it right.
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As a Firefighter it really irritated my nerves to see that hose so tangled that they couldn't immediately get water on that fire.
Not trying to stomp on any of my brothers , I guess I would have done a few different things..
Now that is a MUCH better way of stating things then how some of the others are putting them down on here. Thank you for your respect to our fellow responders. We all see many things wrong but how others in our line of work are destroying these people, I am glad it is not them that I look to on having my back going in.
That was a pretty messy hose drop but the house was pretty much saved. Seen a lot worse on TH-cam here.
There's more than one way to fight a fire. There's probably a million ways!
I'm sure they would say the same after watching you work!
At least they had plenty of hose if it was needed. No fire scene is without mistakes. It happens.
Prayers to family that own that beautiful home
Its for sale again, if you want it.
If this was a suicide, I am no one to judge that person but I just wish before he set the fire he would let the dog get outside. Who knows maybe he didn't because the dog might alert neighbors. This is just so sad.
yea agreed why did the dog have to die, but I guess when your depressed and suicidal you are not thinking straight.
After reading some of the comments, I decided to do a little research. I found that Mendon Fire Dept. has "paid on-call" firefighters. Sounds like it may be partially paid and volunteer in that area. This can have a direct affect on the skill level of the responding personnel due to reduced hands-on training that can be provided to the firefighters. This could be why the initial hose deployment was problematic. Additionally, firefighters have what is referred to as "Rules of Engagement." Rules of engagement is a mental exercise that an incident commander must use before deciding on a particular strategy. In this instance, it is possible that the incident commander knew or had received information of an attempted suicide by fire. This may lead an IC to be more cautious regarding an initial interior attack. What is the occupant survival profile in an incident like this? Firefighters DO NOT risk their life for lives or property that cannot be saved. Many factors have to be considered by the incident commander. There is no substitute for training and experience.
Best commentary.
Well put!
@Jim COOK Probably best if we agree to disagree. I've found that arguing in the comment section doesn't do any of us any good. It's been over a year since I posted this response and I had to watch the video again and read the comments below. My statement regarding the line placement was in response to several other posters who were critical of the way the pre-connect line was pulled, flaked out, and deployed. My comments were meant to squash some of the derogatory posts that I was seeing. I applaud the efforts of these volunteers for their efforts to support the community. but in my opinion, the hose was poorly deployed. It required a minimum of 4 personnel to pull, flake, and advance the hose line. There was way too much "spaghetti" at the engine, which led to a delay in getting water on the fire. It took over a minute to flow any water. Secondary to the hose pull/deployment, spraying water from their vantage point would have pushed the fire farther into the structure. It also looks like the video is edited at about the 3:08 minute mark, so we really don't know how long it took them to knock down the fire. I want to re-emphasize, that I believe these volunteer firefighters did the best that they could with their level of training and experience. Given the information and circumstances surrounding this call, I'm not sure that I would have implemented a quick interior attack either. Additionally, these firefighters deal with much different circumstances that I did in my career. I worked for a suburban, adequately staffed fire department with 3 minute response times. I could have an entire first alarm assignment on scene within 5-6 minutes. So obviously, my tactics and strategy would be different than a rural, volunteer fire department with extended response times.
Interesting. I’ve been full time for years now and have no idea of what kind of “rules of engagement” you speak of.
@@FFEMTB08 Here is a brief description: www.commandsafety.com/2010/09/01/rules-of-engagement-2010/#gref. Google Rules of Engagement for Firefighters for more detailed info.
Has got to be one of the worst first attacks I have ever seen. You never pull a cross lay and just dump the hose next to the engine. You pull it and stretch it at the same time. Initial water on fire should have been directed into the house before fully watering the bush out front. Knock down fire then get bush. Glad I don't live there.
+Greg W Took a note on that, so stay away!!!
+Greg W are you blind? they had it under control in like 5 min dude
+Skankpronger What video were you watching? He kept stopping the video and restarting it again. No way they had it under control in 5 minutes.
Exactly! Very good work here by the firemen.
Greg W you are right
Just a few questions. Why was so much hose pulled initially w/o charging the first line. And the two ff's who first started flowing water, why were they so far away from the house, mask up and go get it. Yes I know the smoke conditions were indicating high heat but you have water use it to cool everything down.
vehicle outside looks suspicious with door open?
ronniezzzz Really??
ronniezzzz really
It was a suicide. The drive of the vehicle dowsed himself in gasoline in the living room and lit a lighter.
@Lazy Bonez I never seen the doors open on the SUV,,,,,,
@@NealB123 That was the first thing I thought of (a suicide) when I saw the vehicle parked on the lawn with the door left open.
He was brokenhearted and couldn't go on without his Barbara Jean. May they both rest in peace. 💔
2:45 Tis is what todays "safety" standards have done to firemen. They've taught firemen to be afraid of fighting the fire. They've become too safe for their own good. Get the fuck up to the window and put the damn fire out. It's just a little radiant heat. You can't put the fire out effectively while standing 30 feet from the house. It's not being unsafe and reckless to get a few feet closer and actually water on the fire. We're firefighters, not fire watchers
I agree. When I was in the business, we got outta the truck and went to work. blitz it face to face and mop up
The NFPA has single handedly pussified the fire service. Pencil pushers behind a desk have stripped firemen of their bravery by not allowing us to be aggressive anymore. We used to belly in and push the fire out. I guess now we stand on the front lawn and water the garden?
Similar thing is happening to the EMS industry. It's why I got out. Medic students are being taught to over-think everything. It's a shame. This isn't a profession for bookworms. It's gritty and when the shit hits the fan you need to be able to think quick, act quick and use your instincts. I hate what they're doing to the medical industry, and apparently what they're doing to the fire industry as well.
Agreed. My certification through IU was 95% classroom and most of that was boring repetitive videos. It was the same for my HAZWOPER, HAZMAT and confined space rescue classes.
Yeah. Doesn't matter that US has horrible firefighter fatality rates. Just go on and use your insticts and fuck up everything.
a fire is always tragic, and the loss of life makes it infinitely more so.
so sorry this had to happen.
i hope the victim found peace.
I’m a Firefighter out on Long Island NY, thank god I haven’t had to experience this yet, I pray I never do. Gotta sucks losing a human life, I would 2nd guess everything I did that day, but sometimes you can’t save everybody
I mean honestly it sounds like the dude offed himself after setting the house on fire so in all fairness there was probably no way to save him under any circumstances.
That's so sad He died and his animal. I just read it. :(
The dog didn’t really have the will to live if his master died so I kinda saw that coming.
If it is true that the fire was intentional, then I only feel sorry for the doggo
At last a FD that wants to get the fire out...gtood job!
Firefighters are badasses, thanks for all that you do.
Is the bush okay?
H Nguyen Yea when I saw that first plan of attack I went WTF
They needed to wet down the area between the house and the car. If that car had caught, it would have Been a whole different fire.
@@chocolatecookie8719 There were enough fighters there... why didn't someone MOVE the CAR ???
Yeah. After this, He served 2 terms as President before retiring to his home in Texas.
Haha, nice joke, much love to Vietnam btw
Why cut a vent hole on the roof when the fire looked to be contained to the 1st floor with windows out so horizontal ventilation was already done.
i was going to comment on this since I am a firefighter, but looks like everybody else is too so I won't
Those fire hoses look like my Christmas lights every year when I get them out of the box.
Forget about hitting it from the outside....they were all wearing SCBA and could have easily entered the front door and cut off the involved room on the right from the rest of the house. And what was the point of cutting the roof at that stage of the fire - there was no further need for vertical venting. Not one yard breather even bothered to try to gain entry to attempt a rescue of a KNOWN VICTIM WITHIN. This video is a disgrace to the fire service.
Senior Officer to a point I agree, this looks like a volley service which IMO you’re lucky anyone is even volunteering to help your sorry ass because you’re too cheap to pay. As far as a victim inside. Gotta weigh it out, on arrival a lot of heavy black smoke and heat in there so if Vic is above the fire room, they’re absolutely gone. I’d still say go for a transitional attack, hold it at the door and send a company upstairs for search BUT based on their skill demonstration it was probably best they didn’t. You don’t want to go aimlessly killing people due to inexperience level, considering you’re a senior officer you should’ve noticed that much. As far as disgraceful, if they’re a paid fire co then yes totally agree. If you’re a volley you get some slack cut because the town is too cheap to pay for educated people. Want free shit, get weak services.
@@imaekkhawmints7015 70% of all fire rescue services are staffed by volunteers. The training and professionalism is at least as good as paid departments UL, NIST, IAFF, and NFPA ensure through the fire accreditation program to maintain their accreditation all fire rescue services must maintain a minimum set of standards regarding training apparatus Personal Protective Equipment and all other equipment and tools possessed by said department. In many cases the volunteer gets training that is more extensive than paid departments because there is no shift structure so the more people must know how to operate the apparatus and know tactics to suppress and extinguish a fire.
David Lenzi I could’ve had said it better!! Been volunteering for over a year now and it’s been great! For those who down volunteers you are completely disrespectful! Like you said 70%!! And believe it or not but lots of volunteer depts get way more calls for service than a paid do! We volunteers get the same training but in my opinion get way more training than paid depts. paid depts you get shifts and you’re off a couple days or whatever but remember volunteers are NEVER off and most run everyday 24 hours all 365 days!
@@shymeikburger8696 The one thing you didn't mention is there is no guarantee that any particular Volunteer Firefighter will be available for every fire. I know I missed several callouts due to my work.
David Lenzi yes that’s 100% correct! Also there’s no guarantees you’re gonna make it back home.
holy cow! how much spaghetti are they making in that front yard?!?
Wow. They really hit it hard from the yard on this one.
Uhhhhhh. awkward moment
Not to mention spraying the hell out of them front bushes!
@@ericpl7227 They sprayed the bushes to ensure the fire wouldn't spread to them...
@@TheFlyingZulu If you put the fire out, it won't be ABLE to spread!
@@ericpl7227 are you a firefighter? or a keyboard warrior that wishes they were as heroic as these guys
Who set the fire? The person inside or someone else? Any case details? Seems odd to cut through the roof. What if they hit an electrical wire?
Firefighter: Hey before I put any water on the fire just let me water these Bushes right quick
The fog was to keep the heat of of them
Standard procedure is to test the line ( hose ) first to ensure that you have water available before fighting the fire.
All these videos keep showing firefighter just looking poorly.
I mean damn...get water the on the fire ASAP. Then mop up.
Looks to me like they're waiting for water pressure. Then again, what do I know.....I'm sure you're more of an expert
Yeah, that's what he did ! WTF ?
MENDON - A man who died with his dog in a two-alarm house fire Friday has been identified by neighbors as the companion of the late homeowner.
Neighbors told the MetroWest Daily News that Sean Moriarty lived alone in the four-bedroom Colonial at 9 Sandra Circle, which burned Friday. The state fire marshal’s office has said the blaze was deliberately set.
Authorities on Sunday had yet to officially identify the man whose lifeless body was pulled from the house by firefighters called to the blaze at 4:45 p.m. Friday. Neighbors told the paper the victim was Mr. Moriarty, who had a reputation as a recluse.
Mr. Moriarty operated a carpentry business out of the house, according to an online Yellow Pages listing. The Worcester County Registry of Deeds listed the homeowner as Barbara J. Adams, who died in March. An obituary listed Mr. Moriarty as her companion.
The fire remained under investigation this weekend by the offices of the state fire marshal and the Worcester district attorney.
Firefighters at the fire on Friday attempted to resuscitate a dog rescued from the house but were unsuccessful.
Deliberately set huh? Right..... this recluse just wanted to die one of the most painful and agonizing ways and take his loyal pet out the same way. 24 years on the job and I find that incredibly hard to believe. Certainly would like to hear what evidence they had that a conclusion such as arson was suspected. Although I suppose someone else could have done it in broad daylight. Lol
Owen Riggs m
Owenl Riggs
@@owenriggs8518 , he committed suicide because his girlfriend died ok? Don’t jump to conclusions.
"What do I do with this hose?" Pointing, "see the fire there?" Put the hose there! don't need to hurry though, no one else is."
im actually impressed by how quickly they knocked the fire back.
Now boys take your time lets slowly release attack line now boys we have all year dont over do it
@@barbaraarcher4895 I'm not. There was obviously parts of the video cut out which made it seem quicker.
Typical TH-cam twat that has no clue.
The firebrigade first start to water the plants in front of the house... What an incompetence...
The Chiefs were a big help, they walked every inch of the property without making a single decision.
Mark Thomas Horrible. No hustle, no plan.I see it all the time on utube.
Rest In Peace doggy 🙏🏼 And the man 🙏🏼
not exactly sure why the truck cut a hole when the fire was already out and had vented itself
Eh. Practice at that point?? Lol
Maybe to help with visibility during overhaul?
Because that's what the book says to do LOL
Wow they really hustle this crew. I've seen other fires where it looks like they are just taking their time.
Yes I agree
Probably a career department.
You guys are all blind or you are members of the Mediocrity Club. Read above.
R.I.P. to the dog
Normally, when firefighters first arrive (1:22), they quickly pull hose and use reserve water from the engine (2:24) while the driver attaches a hydrant to the rig. In this case, I'm not sure if that area doesn't have hydrants nearby but you can clearly hear the pumps from the engines working (3:31 you can still hear it) while they're hosing the fire. So they were using water from the engine to put the fire out. Not sure for how long.
Usually, we have about 1,000 gallons on board, using a inch and 3/4 line, it's good for about 10 minutes.
All wood and plastic houses, makes for lovely burning.
Like kindling
Most are wood.
@@TheBeingReal Yeah, even the majority of new 'brick' houses are just veneer with all the typical lumber framing you'd see in a vinyl sided house...
Great response from the department, others could learn by watching this TEAM in action.
On opposite day, firefighters scrutinize TH-cam commentators & demand they be fired for their grammer & spelling mistakes.
Like your "grammer," for instance?
YES!!! FIND HIHFTY ON FB. YOU ALL WILL LEARN THE TRUTH
Where did the firefighter get the water from? the fire engine carry water too?
I feel bad for the family dog. He was innocent! What a jerk the man was. Not to mention selfish.
exactly!
You have no idea what the hell are you talking about
If this is how they determined this fire was arson, these state fire marshal investigators seriously need to go back to school!
The following quote I found from the Milford Daily Newspaper....
“Though the fire was set intentionally, “the public is not at risk,” said Jennifer Mieth, spokesperson for the Fire Marshal’s office.
The Marshal’s office concluded it was arson through a process of elimination, said Mieth.
“They ruled out all other possible causes. That is their deductive reasoning process,” she said of investigators. How the fire was physically caused has not been made public
Oh the poor dog that died...😥
"I'm not going to tell you again. Put your car in the driveway" Douchebag alert. And no, not the person driving the car
Everybody is an expert behind the keyboard! SMH
While you sit there and be the expert in pointing out the obvious. Thanks captain. Next.
@@stevenpivornik4921 Idiot - bye!
@ =) Have a nice day!
Some things are common sense dip shit
Just what the world needs, all these internet firefighter experts.
What is the abbreviation for the state of Maine and what is the abbreviation for the state of Massachusetts.
Mass = MA Maine = ME
@@l1li1llii1i8 Thanks. Then what is for Minnesota & Montana?
A primary search was possible, especially with the car door open in the driveway, and the front door open too indicating possible occupants within. The victim may still not have made it but c'mon. This was an easy hit. Get in there, engine with one line on the fire, truck doing the search. Manpower problems? Engine do the search with a can on the fire.
I don't know the city of Mendon and what manpower and equipment that department has but as a captain I more thank likely would have initiated a search.
I will agree with that. That car being like it was would’ve been a dead giveaway that there was possibly someone inside.
Don't these fire trucks have a "park"? Why do they put chocks under the wheels, 6:30?
mrknotthall probably just in case?
Nice video but since when do you yank out 90% of the hose and lay it next to the engine then have to untangle it? And since when do you ventilate AFTER the fire??
'Letting the smoke out for folks" Is NOT why we ventilate a roof knuckle head. Go back and review IFSTA
We vent the roof to get rid of heat so a flashover doesn't occur or worse, backdraft.
Well thanks for the lesson. I must have missed that 34 years ago at the academy...
I was reminding knuckle head...
I hope everyone was alright.
Its like watching Laurel & Hardy put a fire out....
1:32 In Poland, if a firefighter commander saw such coiled fire hoses, he would have each fireman reel these hoses on his return until they are coiled as best he can.
Well, this is America. We do things different
You know what bugs me about these kind of videos? The descriptions never get updated. Video is 3 and a half years ago, but "the fire is still under investigation by both the district attorney office and fire marshal." If I had a genie one of my three wishes would be for people to update their descriptions because I doubt these old incidents are still under investigation.
You can google it mane
@FW911 Maybe you should quit being a whiny-ass bitch and Google it then - there is enough information to go on in the description. You're on the internet for fuck's sake, stop being a lazy twat
I don't know a lot about firefighting but, St. Paul have pre connect hoses on the ladder trucks, they are 2", on a hose reel, I've seen them with them, pull all you need turn on the water, also they have their equipment on when they leave the truck...
Who was that guy yelling about a car in the driveway at the beginning?
A police officer..
That's what I thought. When I first watched this I thought he was being a dick but then I realized that when there are fires like this there are always lookey loos who are dumb enough to park their vehicles right in front of the scene and get out to watch. The person who he was yelling at probably had it coming.
You guys are the fastest firemen I have seen yet. Great job!
Great hose depoloyment 🤢. This is hard to watch
Move the car,guys!!!!Dave Howard
get in there
+dan waltemyer No kidding. Get off the engine in full turnouts with SCBA in place, take the line in the front door and push the fire out the right side of the house.
Steven, please for the love of god tell me you're not a firefighter.
Steven J. Feuerstein votes Trump/Pence 2016 House fires aren't like they were 50 years ago. You don't understand all the material that when burned is toxic and how you don't know what all is toxic or not.
Ya they definitely get in there. Like life over PROPERTY. Wow
What a shame. Such a beautiful home.
You should see it now remodeled.
it dose not take this long to get water go back to fire school this is sick CHARGE THE LINE WHAT THE HELLARE YOU DOING
An honest question from a non fire fighter. Has there ever been a clamour for fitting top mounting directional high pressure water jet’s on the fire trucks such that immediately upon arrival some water can be directed upon the blaze? It just seems so obvious. Surely these should be standard - they look techified enough to make this small adjustment.
Many apparatus do have the top mounted gun you describe. However, these would require at least 500 gallons per mimute and would have dumped the tank on that truck in two minutes. That was the only truck there initially and there were no hydrants there. Until the tanker arrived, the water supply would have been exhausted...
Rick pretty much lays it out but in my experience most of the deck mounted Howitzers are 1250gpm... making short work of any carried water. Most trucks that arrive first have less than up to ~ 1000gpm (usually between 600 and 850ish) and they need to make that water last until backup arrives. When you get up to 1000 gallons you start trending towards dual axels- heavier apparatus that are less agile... take longer to respond... get stuck easier etc so there's always a balance when spec'ing out apparatus.
To Rick's credit when I went back to look at the video I do see it's a smoothbore (solid stream) nozzle on the Howitzer so depending on the tip size he might recognize it as a ~500gpm diameter though it looks a bit girthier than that to me. Georg take a look at about 1:23 to 1:25 and you can see the exact appliance you're asking about on the roof right where all the hoses are hanging off.
Adding this to apparatus retroactively is no small affair... since much of the plumbing around the pump body needs to be modified. Some ground appliances can be deployed in the absence of a Howitzer... but then you run into the deployment problem again- it takes time.
Also- These aren't "high pressure" per se... since pressure and volume are exchanged if the size of the orifice stays the same. So if I'm going to use "high" pressure then I'm going to get less volume out of that orifice... if I want higher volume then I need to pull the pressure down.
If we know water is closeby then a quick 15-20 second smash with the Howitzer is not unheard of while the handlines are deployed... This sets the fire back a few minutes and buys time to connect the water supply (whether it's stretched out to us or we pull back to it) while the smaller diameter handlines protect exposures.
So yes, Georg you're on target and it's a good question.
I am intrigued by use of the word Howitzer. I have always used the word Deluge Gun.
Sad
Why are they wearing SCBA if there’re not going to go inside? “Hitting hard from the yard!”
Joseph damn you are ignorant!
Please tell me you’re joking...
So, since the fire was deliberately set was this a homicide?
Megan R yep most definitely
Nope, it was a suicide
If i was the owner of this video I'd silence the comment section, y'all are crazy.
Glenonica1 but then you'll be called a pussy
Agreed, the majority of commenters on youtube are man-children and insane automatons.
Fireman 🚒....our also the bravest heroes alongside our military. May God bless them and keep them safe.
There is no truer act of devotion than that in which a human being lays down his life for another. Nasty comments can never change that truth. The firefighters here placed lives over property and NFPA, ISFSI, UL, as well as numerous state and federal laws both criminal and civil require that fire rescue service personnel do exactly that while minimizing the risk of injury to the firefighters. That is the reality of contemporary firefighting laws and regulations that have resulted in protocols and tactics to be used as guidelines in developing and executing a comprehensive and coordinated fire attack. Lord God in heaven protect and keep safe these brave members of the fire rescue service wherever they may be. If in Your wisdom you call one of our brothers or sisters to be with you. It will be with sad hearts we shall say goodbye. Our true honor to our fallen is and will continue to be to answer the call for help and save lives and property to the best of our abilities. There are those among us who study the beast we call fire and develop tools and apparatus as well as expanding our knowledge to better the skills we have and enable greater efficiency in executing any fire attack.
Who is the PO yelling at to move their car at the very beginning of the clip?
+John Mauro it was the cop. he was yelling at whoever to get their car in the driveway and i'm not gonna tell you again. that is what he is saying. i guess if you don't comply, you get arrested for not moving your vehicle off the public street.
+18dmedic I wasn't sure if he was yelling at a firefighter that brought his/her PV to the scene.....
+18dmedic, I think John knows who was yelling that, PO stands for police officer you know, that's what John meant when he asked who is the PO yelling at.
+18dmedic yeah off the public street so fire trucks can park there dumbfuck
+John Mauro Obama!!!!!
I love American fire appliances, but have serious doubts about who operate them!
SAY WHAT SUCKAH??
Anyone apart from me notice the Firefighters name was Burnham
These dudes are terrible
At least they were packed up and ready to go. Didn't take too long to sort out the spaghetti. Seen a lot of videos where they arrive with half of their gear on and not ready for anything.
Absolutely--nice initial knock-down after arrival relative to many I see recorded.
I have a question for you firefighters what's the difference between one jacket and another one
Hay the firefighters are doing good look they risk their life for us everyday be grateful
Kathy Dang *hey
Why'd he keep the jeep in front of the fire?