I am a coach and I was listening your podcasts about overload eccentrics, you published it right before I was jumping into my cycle with overload eccentrics. Today was the first session and I was also doing overloaded eccentrics for the first time myself and I didn't try it with my athletes yet because I want to test something on myself to gain practical knowledge before applying it to my athletes. Back Squat part of the Session was supposed to be: 1. 92% of 1RM AMRAP, based on which I was choosing the weight for next sets 2. 105% of 1RM overloaded eccentric 10 reps (I had to change the weight myself so it was 1set 10 reps or 10 sets of 1 rep depends how you want to call it) I noticed few issues: -weight is not challenging in the 180-90 degree of knee flexion -weight is not challangind under parallel (about 60 degrees) because it was just falling so weight was only challanging in the 90-60 degree of knee flexion I wasn't training anything in quarter squat position nor in the deep squat I tried to play around with it and came with an idea to attach 2 middle resistance bands to the barbell and I lowered the weight of the barbell from 105% of 1RM to 99% of 1RM resistance of the barbell was looking something like this: 130% of 1RM on the top 120% of 1RM in the quarter squat 110% of 1RM in the half squat band was totally loose right above parallel so: 99% of 1RM in parallel 99% of 1RM in deep squat this fixed all the problems, now barbell was challanging from 120 degree knee flexion - 45 degree knee flexion instead of 90-60 and I could focus on deep position also as I was able to control the barbell nearly to totally deep squat Time under tension lengthen from 4s to 6s what do you think about applaying this type of strategy to advanced/elite athletes? (im intermediate myself). can this mess them up due to lengthen time under maximal tension? or just by decreasing the number of reps we can upgrade it like this? attaching band enables to train under maximal tension in more specific posistions(because you achive max tension under the quarter squat instead of half squat), is this a pro? my practical suggestion in the cycle periodization would look like this if in one cycle you want to train 6 sessions with overloaded eccentrics: session one: 104% of 1RM - 12 reps total session two: 98-102% of 1RM with bands having similar resistance as earlier discussed - 9 reps total session three: 104% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session four: 106% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session five: 108% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session six: 110% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total in classic way of decreasing volume and increasing intensity (volume decrease because time under tension and time under maximal tension are going down with constantly increasing % of 1RM)
I love how you dive deep into jumping. I’m listening to you a lot, but at this time, I don’t have the time to train. I’m also watching your videos to learn more about how to train to jump, because i’m a teacher, and I love to transit this knowledge down to these kids who wants to dunk, but I would feel bad to buy your training and then apply what I learned with my students. Would this be bad? I wouldn’t make any profit, but i’d pass down something that I paid for that is supposed to be for me only. If someone has a thought on that, let me know.
Chances are that these kids wouldn’t pay anyway, and I think that the training program is curated to you specifically. Otherwise it wouldn’t be worth paying for. As an 18 year old volleyball player with a 36 inch vertical, getting to this level of performance doesn’t require world class training, just consistency and effort. Plus, you can find all of the necessary information in this guys channel, since like I said, I think the training is specifically for people like me that are trying to ascend past the 36-40 inch threshold. Hope this helps, and im glad you’re so thoughtful!
I'm in a very similar situation! I'm finishing my final year of teacher's college before becoming a full time teacher and I really want to pass on this knowledge and training to my students. I've been trying to incorporate some THP training with my volleyball students. If you're going to be training a lot of students at once, you can try to use them like guinea pigs (while trying to minimise risk of injury, ofc) by testing different training cycles and seeing what works best for them!
The most important thing in jumping is the posture and contraction speed that understands the mechanism. There is a man who can perform 363cm standing long jump and 44inch standing vertical with his strength barely performing the 120kg half squat
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training
Im 5'6 70kg ( 154 lbs ) and im close to touching the rim ( very close ) do you have any suggestions for improving my vertical i have done plyometrics and have imoroved my vertical from below 20 to 33 inches now ( around 30-33 usually ) i feel my vertical declinjgn recently snd i think it might be because of my lowerbody having too much mass, i play sports a lot, move a lot, run well, and I think my lowerbody night be too big and hindering my vertical any suggestions pls dieting and stuff doesnt work my upper body jas a lot of lean muscle and ive got a really aesthetic upperbody too, my lowerbody has muscles and its more muscles than fats but i cant help but feel i can shave off a bit of fats and add a bit of muscles. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated i also think of doign micro cycles for vertical jump training eventually because i still play basketball and its my focus to have a good vertical most of the time
I love a lot of the content that you guys produce and try to listen to every pod or watch the vids, but I can’t lie it seems like 30-40% of it is glazing yourselves… like can yall segment the video so we know when you start getting into the meat of it?
just want to point out that google scholar is definitely not all peer reviewed careful with some of the publications that can come from some dodgy journals
Bro u gotta recover from your training and pr your depth jumps to the point where you kinda need to use ur hands and bound 4 times after for 3 reps than wait till you feel no fatigue and do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps but with high volume. After u recover have a jump session then the next day go back to your lifts but focus on doing your deep squats.
Well, they say that they keep up to date with current research + they have their own anecdotal expierience coaching numerous types of athletes over the years... Its not like they arent trying to perfect their coaching either, right? They hired new coach that can bring a lot of new insight... Speaking from outsider perspective.. I dont think they ignore others opinions, its just that why would you listen to somebody who regularly underperforms in the same task as you do?
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps keestucking and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training
idk whats more insane Isaiah's vertical or John's hair
johns hair is isaiahs vertical
He’s slowly becoming an anime character
@@kehmer😂😂😂
I am a coach and I was listening your podcasts about overload eccentrics, you published it right before I was jumping into my cycle with overload eccentrics. Today was the first session and I was also doing overloaded eccentrics for the first time myself and I didn't try it with my athletes yet because I want to test something on myself to gain practical knowledge before applying it to my athletes. Back Squat part of the Session was supposed to be:
1. 92% of 1RM AMRAP, based on which I was choosing the weight for next sets
2. 105% of 1RM overloaded eccentric 10 reps (I had to change the weight myself so it was 1set 10 reps or 10 sets of 1 rep depends how you want to call it)
I noticed few issues:
-weight is not challenging in the 180-90 degree of knee flexion
-weight is not challangind under parallel (about 60 degrees) because it was just falling
so weight was only challanging in the 90-60 degree of knee flexion
I wasn't training anything in quarter squat position nor in the deep squat
I tried to play around with it and came with an idea to attach 2 middle resistance bands to the barbell and I lowered the weight of the barbell from 105% of 1RM to 99% of 1RM
resistance of the barbell was looking something like this:
130% of 1RM on the top
120% of 1RM in the quarter squat
110% of 1RM in the half squat
band was totally loose right above parallel so:
99% of 1RM in parallel
99% of 1RM in deep squat
this fixed all the problems, now barbell was challanging from 120 degree knee flexion - 45 degree knee flexion instead of 90-60 and I could focus on deep position also as I was able to control the barbell nearly to totally deep squat
Time under tension lengthen from 4s to 6s
what do you think about applaying this type of strategy to advanced/elite athletes? (im intermediate myself). can this mess them up due to lengthen time under maximal tension? or just by decreasing the number of reps we can upgrade it like this? attaching band enables to train under maximal tension in more specific posistions(because you achive max tension under the quarter squat instead of half squat), is this a pro?
my practical suggestion in the cycle periodization would look like this if in one cycle you want to train 6 sessions with overloaded eccentrics:
session one: 104% of 1RM - 12 reps total
session two: 98-102% of 1RM with bands having similar resistance as earlier discussed - 9 reps total
session three: 104% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session four: 106% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session five: 108% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session six: 110% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
in classic way of decreasing volume and increasing intensity (volume decrease because time under tension and time under maximal tension are going down with constantly increasing % of 1RM)
A fan of you guys and he who shall not be named
I love how you dive deep into jumping. I’m listening to you a lot, but at this time, I don’t have the time to train. I’m also watching your videos to learn more about how to train to jump, because i’m a teacher, and I love to transit this knowledge down to these kids who wants to dunk, but I would feel bad to buy your training and then apply what I learned with my students. Would this be bad? I wouldn’t make any profit, but i’d pass down something that I paid for that is supposed to be for me only. If someone has a thought on that, let me know.
Chances are that these kids wouldn’t pay anyway, and I think that the training program is curated to you specifically. Otherwise it wouldn’t be worth paying for. As an 18 year old volleyball player with a 36 inch vertical, getting to this level of performance doesn’t require world class training, just consistency and effort. Plus, you can find all of the necessary information in this guys channel, since like I said, I think the training is specifically for people like me that are trying to ascend past the 36-40 inch threshold. Hope this helps, and im glad you’re so thoughtful!
I guarantee they wouldn’t mind
@@Criyashun great response man, I appreciate the time tou took to write that. Keep on jumping ;)
I'm in a very similar situation! I'm finishing my final year of teacher's college before becoming a full time teacher and I really want to pass on this knowledge and training to my students. I've been trying to incorporate some THP training with my volleyball students.
If you're going to be training a lot of students at once, you can try to use them like guinea pigs (while trying to minimise risk of injury, ofc) by testing different training cycles and seeing what works best for them!
On today’s episode of Johns insane hair style
john hair
For a stiff core u can do fast chinups with an electric ab toner u gotta tape it if I get a cheap one
The most important thing in jumping is the posture and contraction speed that understands the mechanism. There is a man who can perform 363cm standing long jump and 44inch standing vertical with his strength barely performing the 120kg half squat
p90x is legendary talkin about “i did ten” “last one best one”
Would love to hear your thoughts on PJF performance vert code
John thinks Paul is pretty good but Paul definitely puts a lot of way too general stuff in his programs like pool work except not used as general work
Im stuck at 36inch right now this video is perfect
I aint ever leaving!
Ben Patrick/ Kneesovertoes is “hewhocannotbenamed”
is there beef?
@@jacobgp8893 Bro, there is a whole damn cow.
@@theheebs100 where can I see it
He who can't be named is definitely knees over toes guy...
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training
John’s hair is dope idk what y’all are saying
Im 5'6 70kg ( 154 lbs ) and im close to touching the rim ( very close ) do you have any suggestions for improving my vertical i have done plyometrics and have imoroved my vertical from below 20 to 33 inches now ( around 30-33 usually ) i feel my vertical declinjgn recently snd i think it might be because of my lowerbody having too much mass, i play sports a lot, move a lot, run well, and I think my lowerbody night be too big and hindering my vertical any suggestions pls dieting and stuff doesnt work my upper body jas a lot of lean muscle and ive got a really aesthetic upperbody too, my lowerbody has muscles and its more muscles than fats but i cant help but feel i can shave off a bit of fats and add a bit of muscles. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated i also think of doign micro cycles for vertical jump training eventually because i still play basketball and its my focus to have a good vertical most of the time
Hey I’m 6ft skinny dude I can touch the rim but can’t dunk any tips?
Watch the video, find a way to train that addresses your specific problems, then do that training consistently.
Keep jumping 1-2 times a week and get stronger and more powerful
1.Get lean
2.Learn how to lift and get stronger
3.Jump 2-3 times a week
4.Improve jump technique
Then u will dunk
@@Kostianotrading thanks bro🫂
5. Have fun
What do you mean Isaiah got too specific in his training? Was he jumping too much or like specific in his lifting
Both, too much jumping and too much specific lifts done all the time will lead to fatigue and eventually injury
I love a lot of the content that you guys produce and try to listen to every pod or watch the vids, but I can’t lie it seems like 30-40% of it is glazing yourselves… like can yall segment the video so we know when you start getting into the meat of it?
Is this Harry Potter of jumping world ?
I wish I knew who they were talking about sometimes. "He who shall not be named" or whoever took your shit and pawned it off as they're own.
Mr. Kneesovertoes
@@Footballkiddo7 He ripped off THP?
just want to point out that google scholar is definitely not all peer reviewed careful with some of the publications that can come from some dodgy journals
Bro u gotta recover from your training and pr your depth jumps to the point where you kinda need to use ur hands and bound 4 times after for 3 reps than wait till you feel no fatigue and do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps but with high volume. After u recover have a jump session then the next day go back to your lifts but focus on doing your deep squats.
Yall gotta stop naming he who shall not be named
It is insanely tyrannical pride of not acknowledging the wisdoms and the experiences of others even if you’re great, you are still bridled
Well, they say that they keep up to date with current research + they have their own anecdotal expierience coaching numerous types of athletes over the years... Its not like they arent trying to perfect their coaching either, right? They hired new coach that can bring a lot of new insight...
Speaking from outsider perspective.. I dont think they ignore others opinions, its just that why would you listen to somebody who regularly underperforms in the same task as you do?
@ Oh for sure, I wasn’t talking about them, it’s about the other people when they allegedly get great and they think they have it all
You too guys need islam before you die
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps keestucking and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training