How the "CHEAP" Tesla Model 3 Handles a Track?
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- How does the REGULAR Tesla Model 3 handle a big road course? What will it say about the future of electric driving?
The Tesla Model 3 Performance is the one that gets all the headlines: AWD, 2 motors, 0-60 in 3.2 seconds from a car that starts at $59,000. But what about the regular Model 3 Standard? The one with 1 motor and 258hp (equivalent)? How does it perform on a track? And what does it tell us about the future of cars?
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All they need now are superchargers at all major tracks to make tracking Teslas a practical proposition.
At least ACS and Buttonwillow have superchargers close enough to top up at lunch.
V3 superchargers and these cars will be back on the track with full charge in 15 minutes.
update:
they're doing just that!
at least in north america...
LS3 Miata clip was spot on Hahaha
I actually would love to see you and matt in the same car together, would love to hear both of your guys opinion as a passenger and driver.
th-cam.com/video/dghQTt4QEOg/w-d-xo.html
Thats a good man to give up his beloved car for good money that he will never get to use. Very selfless
The contrast between this, and the Miata clip is insane!
Love the look of this Tesla. Crazy performance in these things.
When you say track I was expecting something with turns
8:15 - that Ferrari disappeared LOL
How are the non-performance brakes holding up on the track? Decent or a lot of brake fade?
Looking forward to Just the Noise on this car.
What I was thinking today: "Another one? Every bleepin day someone puts another friggin video abut driving a tesla 3. ...oh, it's a TST One Take, I guess I'll watch it..." :)
this was good. i'm an old enthusiast, manual toyotas and audis. i also have a gravity sports background so I prefer the electric experience because I can hear the contact, similar to pedal bikes, skateboards, ski/snowboards. i did buy this lighter version of the 3 also (still seems heavy even after having audi), and the quickness is plenty for me as I have always been more of a momentum driver anyway. cant wait for two seater ev's.
Did you use full regen brakeing? It is my understanding that you can brake later. For me there seems to be some advantage going with the standard tesla 3. Its 230 kgs lighter and have rear wheeldrive. Furthermore it proberbly dosent need that hard a suspension setup compared to the dualmotors - which should give better comfort in daily driving.
You’re too good for these ppl lol
What if they added a speaker to this car that played engine noises from inside and outside. would that make it ok?
Outside is just sorry, but at least inside so you can hear revs and such , should help
Zach, would love to see you drive a Model 3 Performance with a brake upgrade. Will totally have you saying.....damn.
Noise Control don’t worry mate with that attitude, that’s all you will be driving.
@Noise Control you never drive a Tesla model 3 performance.... it beat most of car under 250,000$ on track.... But no problem... you'll follow me... for a turn or two....
Noise Control, you seem really hostile toward Tesla, like your Grandma got run over by one or something. Why the irrational hate for the future of motoring?
@Noise Control Lol, are you reading your own comments? I think the only fanboi getting mad is you. . .
@Noise Control No, I get it. you go on social media and mindlessly throw bombs. At least you are contributing all you can to the world.
*ITS TOO LOUD, SWITCH TO QUIET MODE GAWD DAMN*
This was really enjoyable, Zack! What's the 3-beep sound I keep hearing?
That was most likely a warning that he was pressing brake and throttle at the same time. It allows the inputs, but throws a warning.
how did you turn off esp and tc on this car
How were the breaks?
Standard range or long range?
Smoking Tire - even a Base Model 3 with Performance Parts is FUN on the Track.
Lexus GSF vs Model 3 on track would be amusing
I'd be scared to pass at an HPDE with the passenger giving the point-by
When it changes direction in the chicanes it looks like a small earthquake is happening.
A Tesla and a custom liecense plate. Neat
Lol, you should’ve left the intro silent 😂😂
Is that the 50kw or the 75kw battery and how many laps full with a full charge and how many miles per lap?
with my perfomance model 3, i made about 60 miles with a 75kw
Éric Germain can you explain more?
WeekendParty __ yess sorry. I means, when i go on track with my M3 performance, i spend about 800wh/km so, i can run about 90-100km or 50-60milles with a full charge.
This is the OG Model 3, so ~75 kWh usable battery capacity.
Peter Epstein show me proof of a m3 in a track not dying after a few laps. I’ll wait...
That track entry is so dangerous, would merging on to the bank not better.
Should four or five laps ar full throttle.
With slight modifications (upgraded brakes, pads and springs), a driver that normally runs a GTR took his RWD Model 3 and turned a 1:59 at Fontana: th-cam.com/video/BZt5XVQPqPI/w-d-xo.html
The Model 3 is totally capable and you actually want the rear motor only or Performance. The Dual Motor none performance has some thermal issues. Check my channel for the Model 3 Rear motor Lap record at Laguna Seca with stock tires.
Amazing....and very little emissions too!! 😉
Shout out to JDRF!
It is coming in India😍
Anyone else think that the passenger was David Arquette at first?
3 laps and it drained ?
Tesla can't complete a full 20 minute session without running out of juice.
Even if they did start with a range of 204 miles, going down to 168 is a loss of 38 miles of range, or 18% of total range. That's in 4 minutes of driving. Extrapolate that for a full 20 minute session and the loss would be 88% of the starting range. And that's assuming a steady state of discharge, which isn't accurate as the battery drains faster as it heats up.
You also have to ignore regen braking to perform your calculation.
This is why I always race teslas on the highway and I always win, they antkeep up without sacrificing all they have!!! Hehe
Even if Tesla fails as a company, we owe them a great deal of gratitude for getting the EV ball rolling by showing what is even possible with an EV: They can be fun, fast, reliable and practical. Affordable (for the average person) is the next hurdle...
If it is the standard, full charge is 220 miles
It's the OG Model 3, which is long range RWD. Range was 310, but an OTA update bumped it up to 325.
What are you talking about?....you don’t spend much time at willow springs I guess. Lots of fx35/45 at WS before you were born:-)
Id love for tesla to make a model 3-S priced coupe thats not necessarily balls to the wall fast but a really sleek two door design. Like basically a model S coupe. Also it would be really interesting to see Tesla expiriement with hybrids im sure they would knock that out of the park
That would all be awesome, but I think they're pretty committed to the fully electric thing. Maybe they'll partner with another manufacturer some day to provide the electric parts for a hybrid system
Doubt they'd go retro and make a hybrid But I'm with you on a model3 coupe or a model S coupe. Nothing says luxury like a big body coupe
mitchell duchesne exactly. like an EV grand tourer.
Knows it’s not a gas pedal 😂. Not an engine either lol. Nice vid.
'give it the gas' < Throttle
which is still combustion lingo, but appropriates to EVs far better.
A point for the ever-snooty Brits on this one :)
shaft9000 accelerator works.
Where’s Matt?
Fx35 track day because suburbia
drive the performance. different story.
Why does this look like a Mazda that had the zoom taken away?
this comment section is cancer
Where do you take Teslas for maintenance? Aren't they closing their physical locations?
Just the sales stuff, they're still expanding for maintenance
Wow kind of interesting what false rumors get spread. FYI their Show Room stores in places like Malls are Not Service Centers. Due to aggressive cost cutting they are shutting down a proportion of Sales Show Rooms.
What maintenance?
4:48 you are a funny dude
Have you driven one?
He probably has 10x the car exp as you
Someone should build a LS swapped Tesla.
Looks like a Civic from the side.
It really does not
@@truth6565 I mean, it's just my opinion. That's what came to mind when I looked at the thumbnail.
ssjMaximum22Goku
I hear ya
Waaaayyy duller than a Civic.
The point by on both sides, nearly at the same time makes me cringe. Zack, you gotta check your passengers. This is a very public way to have an unacceptable incident. Check it: th-cam.com/video/uO1ja4BuRuE/w-d-xo.html
The Performance is more suited for the track than the base model
BASITH PH no shit, but that’s not what his point is.
Really, I would have never guessed.
Smarty pants!
Yes it is funny at least the first 2 km you beat records on your 0-100 then at 130km/h power is nerfed to 130kw from the nearly 350.. then as you keep pushing cells quickly overheat you finish one lap try to for two but all warning get to red and you have to stop or put the car on fire.... and you never your second lap.... that's a tesla all at start nothing on long pace....
Model 3 does fairly well at continued high speed driving. Check out Bjørn Nyland's videos testing out the Performance Model 3 with and without the spoiler driving on the Autobahn.
Oh boy here comes all the triggered commentors crying because it's an electric
@Noise Control You're a grouchy boi aren't you?
@Noise Control Want some Kleenex to wipe away those tears, princess?
Might be fast but looks pretty boring
It's a family sedan
You can still stick a gigantic Pep Boys wing on it and maybe some large flame decals on the side.
Kloko Loko the m5 does fun family sedan better
@@Hole_Motorsports yes but this model 3 is 35k and a M5 is 103k, it's not a fair comparison
Paths GFX e39 or e60 m5 are more fun and cheaper. Also higher quality interior
2nd
Wtf
The Model 3 looks OK but nothing cool and the interior is boring, too clinical fir my taste.
I agree, it looks a bit bland
It looks futuristic and stands out everywhere
It’s an entry level car and msrp at 30k
Watch out you cant express things on the internet these days without offending anyone lol
@@mkud4129 offending someone =/= starting a debate. youtube is a childrens place but you're not helping if you generalize commentors.
on topic: the tesla is trying so hard to look and be futuristic, but it's just not. it was/is a milestone in EV development, but since EVs leave a big CO2 footprint there is no point in getting one, at all. When I see someone driving a fancy EV I know for a fact: that person couldn't care less about the environment. Because there is no person who is responsible about the CO2 footprint he/she leaves on our world going "you know what would help the environment? buying a 100,000$ new car!". and don#t talk about "entry level car msrp 30k" in europe the model 3 starts at more than 50,000€, and these cars probably have a 1 hour range (in autobahn terms, autobahn consumption = 2 or 3 times the normal consumption).
I've been around these cars and did some research and here's my view -> Teslas are status symbols, fancy gadgets, are useful if you're trying to date a dumb hipster/environmentalist girl, they are modern and they offer 2 party tricks (see below), but one thing they are not, they aren't good for the environment. at all. and don't say "blah blah the technology will improve" because if that's your arguement then you can't argue about the fact that biodiesel technology will also improve therefore there's another solution as good as yours, which doesn't require me to sacrifice fun and doesn't require me to buy a new car.
These are the 2 party tricks a Tesla provides: acceleration and turning capabilities. Due to low center of gravity, instant torque and grip these 2 tricks never fail to impress, nevermind they actually do because you can't go for a full lap of the nurburgring without entering limp mode and having to slow down a 2,5 ton car makes you unable to do sporty driving in the kinds of environments that true driving enthusiasts love.
Ikhyoun Kim
It’s not offensive just a bad opinion
This cars price bracket puts it to compete with Toyota corollas , Honda civics, Mercedes CLA (bade), BMW 3 series (base), Audi A3 (base)
It’s MSRP is 35k
Calling it bland is just a dumb useless opinion
A fuckin Prius prime fully loaded cost the same
What’s more exciting looking than a model 3, IN THE SAME BRACKET
Lets just say its not a track car
Neither is the equivalent 330i BMW.
@@joetacchino4470 True, but with a stick it still would make more sense to "turn into" a more fun car than this. This looks more like "and theres the next turn, done. Theres the next, done.."
Joe Tacchino I track my 328i all the time. Slow...yes...but never overheats and works fine all day
@@myaccount__7269 Model 3 doesn't have the overheating problems of older Teslas. Bjørn Nyland's videos cover this, as he's tested one on the Autobahn. It does limit power eventually, but the limit is not as severe, and the recovery is much faster.
Peter Epstein you’re very wrong. Highway is not same as race track with hard braking and quick pulls. Saw a m3 video of a guy who took it to a track...lasted 2 laps and the brakes were cooked and ruined. Saw another video where m3 battery was severely depleted after just 2 laps as well
You're driving the Toyota Tercel of Teslas on a track, try the Tesla Model 3 Performance next time before making conclusions about Tesla.
I wish people would stop crying about why its not the performance model. It is a base model! Suck it up.
To be clear, this is the OG Model 3, which has the larger long range battery pack, but has only one motor. I think Tesla's 0-60 rating is 5.1 seconds. So it's faster than the short range versions, but slower than the AWD, and much slower than the Performance version.
Seems pretty boring to me, there's really no sensation of speed with these cars. All the emotion and fun of driving seems stripped away, it's like a robot tried to understand why humans like driving and made a car that fills some checkboxes.
Sean Donaldson : As a life long gear head that loves NA and a clutch.... I drove a model 3 performance and p100d and took them to the limit. The model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and it’s about exactly as much fun as doing it in 4 seconds in a camaro SS. So they arent boring at all, but they are more boring comparative to their performance.
@@user-yq6ov6ow7l Yeah, no, it's pretty boring.
I mean if speed is all you care about you can buy a used Hayabusa off Craigslist for like $5k.
It’s not boring at all. You clearly have never driven one. My last daily was a GTI and my weekend car is a manual 911. My Tesla is in no way boring.
@@joetacchino4470 : after my test drive, I concluded a proper sports car would be more fun on a spirited drive on some great roads. But as far as choosing a car to live day to day live which includes stop signs, traffic lights, and congestion.....there is no car more fun than a m3p.
So you're not actually a driving enthusiast, you're just a noise enthusiast. Got it.
Gas, engines, etc... C'mon man this is an electric car.
Imagine what it could do with a real driver
He's driving at a charity event in a car he doesn't own. What were you expecting?
Overheat faster?
@@nickb3968 Stop with the lies.
@@Neojhun What lies are you specifically referring to?
@@nickb3968 "Overheat Faster" during a track session with Randy Pobst the Model 3 Performance Battery was Drained to low power mode before it had serious heat soak problems. 1st Problem was NEVER entire system overheating. But certain components causing a bottleneck. Majority of those issues have been solved since 100D battery 2017. 2nd You would hit power low battery drain in a 40 Min track session before you get to Overheating. So before stating False Insinuation / Lies. Learn how this stuff works.
Booooooring
Actually, the technology is quite amazing. We're witnessing the slow death of primitive gas engines. They will be looked-down upon as steam engines are today.
Completely soulless. I wonder how many laps until the battery dies when wide open. I'll bet you can't go 15 miles at fast lap pace....
no, this isn't an issue with the Model 3, it doesn't cut power or overheat. Pobst did some amazing laps with it for an extended period.
Did you watch the video to the end?
They say it started at 204 miles
They finished at 168 miles
That’s 36 miles used at WOT (lol there’s no T) and two laps!
@@truth6565 I'm gonna go with the opinion of the passenger...how many laps did it do to use 50% battery? You realize the battery life indicator algorithm is based on average, not real time, right? The P100D's get around 7 miles of drag strip time before the battery is kaput.
@@lucasjohnson3780 According to this guy you get 3.5 laps before overheating of brakes and battery ruins the fun: teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/track-mode-a-day-with-hod-laguna-my-personal-observations%E2%80%A6.135578/
@1betterthanyou1 I won't, buddy.
jesus they have got to stop using jack. He really ruins these videos imo
If you meant Zack, then I agree.
Tesla going bankrupt. Too bad.
I ve heard that story for the last 10 years.
No they aren't, come on man.
@@CockatooDude Tesla finished the first quarter of 2019 with $2.2 billion in cash. But the company lost $702 million, and so Musk said in April that Tesla was going to have to be on a “spartan diet.” Tesla then went out and raised that $2.7 billion to help the company stay afloat.
“THIS IS HARDCORE, BUT IT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR TESLA TO BECOME FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE.”
“This is a lot of money, but actually only gives us about 10 months at the Q1 burn rate to achieve breakeven!” Musk wrote Thursday. “This is hardcore, but it is the only way for Tesla to become financially sustainable and succeed in our goal of helping make the world environmentally sustainable.”
@@grabir01 The thing to remember is that Tesla has been operating on margins this slim since it's inception, so this is nothing overly new. I suspect a profit in Q2 though, given how many cars they've delivered so far.
@@grabir01 If you are soo smart you should capitalize on that. Put your money where your mouth is.
Another video without Matt and with lame Zack who has problems chewing gum and talking at same time.