“They’re all human beings you know” Probably the single most important and powerful line from this discussion and I couldn’t agree more. Despite whatever difficulties we face in a global scheme I think that should be the core fundamentally of all people.
Its 2021 and Korea still isn't united and well, South Koreans themselves feel confused about how to they would feel if they are united, there are happy ones, worried ones and etc, I hope that someday, if they unite, the south can help their counter part and the north could be free and that many things in the world does not rotate around 1 person
In reality for koreans it's not a matter of if they will unite. Rather when. Both Koreas dream of reunification and so do the people. Let's hope that does happen.
@@biffed4225uh idk about that, tbh we don’t really want to. What we do want is a peace treaty, not reunification. It’s not like America wants to be become one with North America (Canada). Like imagine America was at war with North America (Canada). Both a lot of white people and everyone speaks English and similar foods, culture, etc… But different countries. You wouldn’t want them to reunite because they’re just different countries. Like, it doesn’t really matter. You’d be focusing on having a peace treaty part lol It’s the same as Korea we’re just different countries now.
So: fun fact. Many American schools banned students carrying their books in bags during the day, only using their bags when they enter and leave the school to carry on the bus, and must leave their bags in their locker during the school day. The reason for this was to- get this- curtail the smuggling and selling of contraband!! 😂 My school actually had this policy for the the first 4 years of my 6 year academy. Finally I was able to use a messenger bag in my last two years as they lifted the ban when the switched from block scheduling. Apparently in the 80s and 90s, the school in my area was particularly worried about students smuggling and selling dangerous toys and equipment and things like that, distracting devices. Some were even worried about children carrying knives to school. I’m not sure how far back these weird bag bans go in other areas of the country! Apparently as far back as the 50s according to this Korean guy 😂 But, they had it in my area since around the 80s apparently, and they lifted it in the early 2000s (I’m not sure if they’ve re-introduced it after I graduated, what with the unfortunate uptick in school shootings- we’re not an urban area, and we don’t really get a lot of gun violence, so I’m not sure)
Ahh! My Nana was a Judith who loved to swim, every morning she’d go to the gym with the pool and swim for years, she was also a nurse. Polish, not English, and on my father’s side. But I loved seeing another Judith who likes to swim here 😊 reminds me of my grandmother. She would have been around a similar age as this Judith here in the 1950s, oddly enough, maybe just slightly younger, about 13.
The Norwegian boy made a terrific point about how countries like the US and Russia (and now China too in more recent years) have used financial aid to developing countries in order to have influence over political outcomes, elections, treaties, alliances, scratching of backs. He was ahead of his time for pointing out this problem. I’m not sure the UN funneling all the money solves the problem, as then simply the UN organizations can strong-arm about ideology and threaten to revoke or exclude membership and access to funds on the basis of compliance with UN ideals (which might not sound bad if you like their charters on human rights- but consider that a number of their “peacekeeping” missions got quite bloody and giving an imperfect global organization that amount of power could be problematic and lead to even less localized democracy and the decentralization needed to enfranchise local democracies). To be fair to Johannes, in the 50s, the UN was considered a lot less influential over policies (excepting basic human rights and anti-war policies it tried to push initially), whereas today it is trying to influence everything from those initial objectives, to even laws about currency and energy policy and other things. So it was a more neutral organization for funneling money for charity to poorer countries at one point. That is no longer the case, it is not neutral anymore and has become another arena for political chess playing unfortunately. Perhaps bigger world powers should have to agree to certain international agreements about neutrality or limits on political influence and exchange of money, or these larger governments should just be less large and their nations more decentralized. A lot of manufactured scarcity happens when big and powerful governments want people to clamor for help in order to amass more power. Perhaps a lot of developing nations would develop better at this point through the mechanisms of fair trade and non-governmental private and religious charities for things like medicine and education, instead of being subjected to political chess-playing that comes as a drawback of governments and these international organizations being the ones “giving” the money (it hasn’t been charity, it’s been attempting to buy political compliance). Love the kind attitude behind what most of Judith has to say, but unfortunately she often misses the point. When she says “don’t you think competition between Russia and America is a good thing?” - she comes at this from a laissez faire market ideology, this idea that capital should be a free-for-all, and that the “winners” can just be charitable if they want to. 🤦🏻♀️ It has never historically worked that way. The “winners” of a game such as that usually exploit the “losers” with looting their resources and unfair labor conditions, and to make matters worse, among the “winners” competition often leads to a battle of wills and empire, who will be the bigger winner, who will have the most influence to make the rest of the world like them or advantageous to their empire in some way. And that is EXACTLY what happened with Russia and the U.S. with the Cold War and the arms race. The Norwegian boy here was very wise to predict that tensions would rise, and he was absolutely correct. It isn’t good enough to say “oh well it’s only a problem when it’s military aid.” Hindsight is 20/20. Even countries that have not been given arms have been used as chess pieces in economic warfare, attempts to devalue the competitors currency with trade deals, getting materials for gas and materials to make weapons that come from other countries, etc etc. Never believe a government that says “oh it’s just food and medicine and schools”- there’s always more to it than that. Government’s aren’t charitable, they’re strategic. If a powerful country is giving money to a developing country it’s to maintain influence in the region, not out of the goodness of their hearts, as with one hand they feed one country and with the other hand they beat down that country’s neighbors and cause strife in the region. Johannes was absolutely right that competing to be an economic beneficiary of foreign countries is a cynical move, not a charitable one by governments.
Judith actually made a bit of a decent point there. China originally was not going to spread communism outside of China. It only spread to Vietnam and attempted to in Tibet, and Korea, because the US was aggressively trying to create military bases in the pacific, and was making China feel threatened that capitalist countries would try to militarily force China’s communist government out, all because of the anti-communism scare in the US. Keep in mind, their pre-communist imperialist capitalist government in China was not less totalitarian or less oppressive to the Chinese people, so the Chinese people did not want to go backwards (they wouldn’t be becoming a westernized democracy, they would have created a power vacuum for old imperialist royal families and aristocracy to vie for power if the communist government was overthrown- or worse, an American-chosen puppet government that also isn’t truly democratic). Spreading communism was their way of trying to make international allies so that they would be safer from American military invasion, which they felt was a threat because the US was being so militant trying to gain territories in the pacific after our war with Japan ended, and our rhetoric against China was very interventionist instead of hands-off. I completely empathize with the Korean delegate here having harsh feelings towards China, and not wanting China to have any power or resources to make North Korea overpower South Korea. But, what he’s not realizing is that it’s not as simple as “Chinese people are just not peace-loving”- America is a UN country and we’d been the only country to have nuclear weapons as of yet. We were much more threatening than China at this point, and by excluding China from the UN we exacerbated their sense of fear and urgency that they needed more communist allies. That is what I mean by the UN being used for political chess playing, in the 50s the US was already trying to use it to exacerbate tensions with China and Russia. And it’s only gotten worse since then.
The UN is an international league for all nations it should help all the underdeveloped countries even if it's a communist because all countries needed economic help. No wonder there is little comments in this video because this is outdated
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“They’re all human beings you know”
Probably the single most important and powerful line from this discussion and I couldn’t agree more. Despite whatever difficulties we face in a global scheme I think that should be the core fundamentally of all people.
Its 2021 and Korea still isn't united and well, South Koreans themselves feel confused about how to they would feel if they are united, there are happy ones, worried ones and etc, I hope that someday, if they unite, the south can help their counter part and the north could be free and that many things in the world does not rotate around 1 person
In reality for koreans it's not a matter of if they will unite. Rather when. Both Koreas dream of reunification and so do the people. Let's hope that does happen.
@@biffed4225uh idk about that, tbh we don’t really want to. What we do want is a peace treaty, not reunification.
It’s not like America wants to be become one with North America (Canada).
Like imagine America was at war with North America (Canada). Both a lot of white people and everyone speaks English and similar foods, culture, etc… But different countries.
You wouldn’t want them to reunite because they’re just different countries. Like, it doesn’t really matter. You’d be focusing on having a peace treaty part lol
It’s the same as Korea we’re just different countries now.
@@PotatoeJin Yeah its been way too long most of the very close relatives that wanted to reunite are long dead.
So: fun fact. Many American schools banned students carrying their books in bags during the day, only using their bags when they enter and leave the school to carry on the bus, and must leave their bags in their locker during the school day. The reason for this was to- get this- curtail the smuggling and selling of contraband!! 😂 My school actually had this policy for the the first 4 years of my 6 year academy. Finally I was able to use a messenger bag in my last two years as they lifted the ban when the switched from block scheduling.
Apparently in the 80s and 90s, the school in my area was particularly worried about students smuggling and selling dangerous toys and equipment and things like that, distracting devices. Some were even worried about children carrying knives to school.
I’m not sure how far back these weird bag bans go in other areas of the country! Apparently as far back as the 50s according to this Korean guy 😂 But, they had it in my area since around the 80s apparently, and they lifted it in the early 2000s (I’m not sure if they’ve re-introduced it after I graduated, what with the unfortunate uptick in school shootings- we’re not an urban area, and we don’t really get a lot of gun violence, so I’m not sure)
My dad was 8 wow what a difference wish there where some of these from my era the 80's
Ahh! My Nana was a Judith who loved to swim, every morning she’d go to the gym with the pool and swim for years, she was also a nurse. Polish, not English, and on my father’s side. But I loved seeing another Judith who likes to swim here 😊 reminds me of my grandmother. She would have been around a similar age as this Judith here in the 1950s, oddly enough, maybe just slightly younger, about 13.
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The Norwegian boy made a terrific point about how countries like the US and Russia (and now China too in more recent years) have used financial aid to developing countries in order to have influence over political outcomes, elections, treaties, alliances, scratching of backs. He was ahead of his time for pointing out this problem.
I’m not sure the UN funneling all the money solves the problem, as then simply the UN organizations can strong-arm about ideology and threaten to revoke or exclude membership and access to funds on the basis of compliance with UN ideals (which might not sound bad if you like their charters on human rights- but consider that a number of their “peacekeeping” missions got quite bloody and giving an imperfect global organization that amount of power could be problematic and lead to even less localized democracy and the decentralization needed to enfranchise local democracies). To be fair to Johannes, in the 50s, the UN was considered a lot less influential over policies (excepting basic human rights and anti-war policies it tried to push initially), whereas today it is trying to influence everything from those initial objectives, to even laws about currency and energy policy and other things. So it was a more neutral organization for funneling money for charity to poorer countries at one point. That is no longer the case, it is not neutral anymore and has become another arena for political chess playing unfortunately.
Perhaps bigger world powers should have to agree to certain international agreements about neutrality or limits on political influence and exchange of money, or these larger governments should just be less large and their nations more decentralized. A lot of manufactured scarcity happens when big and powerful governments want people to clamor for help in order to amass more power. Perhaps a lot of developing nations would develop better at this point through the mechanisms of fair trade and non-governmental private and religious charities for things like medicine and education, instead of being subjected to political chess-playing that comes as a drawback of governments and these international organizations being the ones “giving” the money (it hasn’t been charity, it’s been attempting to buy political compliance).
Love the kind attitude behind what most of Judith has to say, but unfortunately she often misses the point. When she says “don’t you think competition between Russia and America is a good thing?” - she comes at this from a laissez faire market ideology, this idea that capital should be a free-for-all, and that the “winners” can just be charitable if they want to. 🤦🏻♀️ It has never historically worked that way. The “winners” of a game such as that usually exploit the “losers” with looting their resources and unfair labor conditions, and to make matters worse, among the “winners” competition often leads to a battle of wills and empire, who will be the bigger winner, who will have the most influence to make the rest of the world like them or advantageous to their empire in some way. And that is EXACTLY what happened with Russia and the U.S. with the Cold War and the arms race. The Norwegian boy here was very wise to predict that tensions would rise, and he was absolutely correct.
It isn’t good enough to say “oh well it’s only a problem when it’s military aid.” Hindsight is 20/20. Even countries that have not been given arms have been used as chess pieces in economic warfare, attempts to devalue the competitors currency with trade deals, getting materials for gas and materials to make weapons that come from other countries, etc etc. Never believe a government that says “oh it’s just food and medicine and schools”- there’s always more to it than that. Government’s aren’t charitable, they’re strategic. If a powerful country is giving money to a developing country it’s to maintain influence in the region, not out of the goodness of their hearts, as with one hand they feed one country and with the other hand they beat down that country’s neighbors and cause strife in the region. Johannes was absolutely right that competing to be an economic beneficiary of foreign countries is a cynical move, not a charitable one by governments.
Judith actually made a bit of a decent point there. China originally was not going to spread communism outside of China. It only spread to Vietnam and attempted to in Tibet, and Korea, because the US was aggressively trying to create military bases in the pacific, and was making China feel threatened that capitalist countries would try to militarily force China’s communist government out, all because of the anti-communism scare in the US. Keep in mind, their pre-communist imperialist capitalist government in China was not less totalitarian or less oppressive to the Chinese people, so the Chinese people did not want to go backwards (they wouldn’t be becoming a westernized democracy, they would have created a power vacuum for old imperialist royal families and aristocracy to vie for power if the communist government was overthrown- or worse, an American-chosen puppet government that also isn’t truly democratic). Spreading communism was their way of trying to make international allies so that they would be safer from American military invasion, which they felt was a threat because the US was being so militant trying to gain territories in the pacific after our war with Japan ended, and our rhetoric against China was very interventionist instead of hands-off.
I completely empathize with the Korean delegate here having harsh feelings towards China, and not wanting China to have any power or resources to make North Korea overpower South Korea. But, what he’s not realizing is that it’s not as simple as “Chinese people are just not peace-loving”- America is a UN country and we’d been the only country to have nuclear weapons as of yet. We were much more threatening than China at this point, and by excluding China from the UN we exacerbated their sense of fear and urgency that they needed more communist allies.
That is what I mean by the UN being used for political chess playing, in the 50s the US was already trying to use it to exacerbate tensions with China and Russia. And it’s only gotten worse since then.
she looks like prince charles😂
Hahahahaha I'm happy that I'm not the only one that noticed the similar features hahaha
@@dadatosu4702 me too 😊
Saw the thumbnail and immediately knew she was the one from the UK haha
Wow my mom was only 3 yrs old when these teens had this discussion
My mom was 1 and my dad was 3
Judith reader😍
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I love Judith Reader she is amazing 😍 👆👌
The UN is an international league for all nations it should help all the underdeveloped countries even if it's a communist because all countries needed economic help. No wonder there is little comments in this video because this is outdated
Where is judith reader now? Anyone know???
alive and well my friend
@@mouthopenmonkey4571really
2021 still North n South are fighting..
no?
they arent exactly fighting
Well, not really fighting. Just staring aggressively at each other.
Judith is so cute
She has the classic British look and voice
Is this her way of saying "UN is a joke"?
13:44😂😂 y would u need help as u ppl already looted india and left it in despair
Bloody Miss Crabapple, she welding the stick!
1:05 carpoor
Lmao. Where is Kelly 😂😂😂
They looted so much out of India ,do they still want aid. They have not even given compensation and they are questioning the aid.
18:51...what she said? lol.
First looted us now flaunting 😂
She said "instead of begging"
@@rodeorex2846 Was defending colonialism in the other video too jajajaj
hae joon pleaseeee ArGhhhh